Convincing my SIM card that tablet is mobile phone - General Questions and Answers

Hello
I am happy owner of Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, Samsung Galaxy S3 and 3G Contract for unlimited internet and phone calls sim card. Due to recent policy changes, those greedy dummies blocked all internet access on devices other than mobile phones. As I am really in need to have internet connection on Tablet (mobile phone is not working) I would liketo ask You if it is possible. I need to convince my SIM card that Galaxy Tab 2 is a phone, best if Galaxy S3. Would that be possible and could You help me? I use Cyanogen mod on Galaxy Tab 2

Sfinksu21 said:
Hello
I am happy owner of Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, Samsung Galaxy S3 and 3G Contract for unlimited internet and phone calls sim card. Due to recent policy changes, those greedy dummies blocked all internet access on devices other than mobile phones. As I am really in need to have internet connection on Tablet (mobile phone is not working) I would liketo ask You if it is possible. I need to convince my SIM card that Galaxy Tab 2 is a phone, best if Galaxy S3. Would that be possible and could You help me? I use Cyanogen mod on Galaxy Tab 2
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i would also like to know this as well people, i'm on Sony Xperia Tablet Z ???

using mobile phone sim in tablet
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i would also like to know this as well people, i'm on Sony Xperia Tablet Z ???
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Yep, me too. I can't find anything. Ihe only way is to use the mobile as hotspot so far, but that is not what i want, please help.

thedarkgirl said:
Yep, me too. I can't find anything. Ihe only way is to use the mobile as hotspot so far, but that is not what i want, please help.
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Bump. I've got an extra unlimited data phone plan that I want to use with a tablet, and Verizon keeps trying to tell me that even though the phone and the tablet use the same LTE antennas and protocols, they can't program my phone data plan onto a tablet. Personally I think it's a scam to get more money, and all the carriers seem to be playing by the same rules.
Edit: I spent some more time digging for loopholes in Verizon to use my phone LTE with my tablet. One of the reps said, "You can actually take the sim card from the phone with the 2GB plan, put it into the tablet, and it would work. However, if you tried taking the sim card from one of your unlimited data devices, and tried to put it into the tablet, here's what would happen: The device would recognize the LTE plan, connect with Verizon services, and as soon as the Verizon service recognizes that it's a tablet device on an unlimited data plan, Verizon would discontinue the LTE connection from our end." So essentially, you CAN swap an LTE card from a phone to a tablet, but Verizon monitors this, and does not provide the service if it realizes you have an unlimited data plan on a tablet. Wow, that's very low. Unfortunately, if the same holds true for all the other carriers, then they're all just as bad.
So does anyone happen to know how I can trick the Verizon service into thinking that my tablet is still the same device that the unlimited data sim card came from?

No answers, no answers. 3 UK does the same, they block it themselves.
They want to avoid competition from themselves, as they internet plans would be at disadvantage - 3 offers unlimited broadband for most expensive cell plans.

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[Q] Nexus S i9023 willing to use ATT without Dataplan possible?

Hi guys been reading on forums about att automatically detecting smartphones but some say its ok if the phone is unbranded and some say any phone it might be ATT will be able to detect it...
My Question is
I have a Nexus s i9023 bought in india now i am in USA i already bought an ATT connection which i am using on a samsung [dumbphone](i activated the sim with the imei of that dumbphone) ..I would like to know if ATT will be able to detect my phone as smartphone if i switch that sim onto my Nexus S and activate a dataplan??
PS: i will disable data by all means...using CM7.1..will use Wifi only
HI,
When I was in US last year - I purchased multiple connections - initially from AT&T and then from T-Mo.
AT&T - My phone was a Nokia 5230 then and I threw the dumbphone into bin and used my 5230 without any issue. I was on a $50 plan with unlimited talk & text and 500MB data.
T-Mo : Same experience, this time I just bought a sim. Not even a dumb phone. You can walk into any of the T-Mo showrooms and get one. Or buy a dumb phone + plan and use it..
As a matter of fact, I have a friend in US who is using a Galaxy S with a T-Mo sim taken out of an dumb phone.
Thanks, J
hey thanks for the reply!!
Well i know abt the scenario of t-mobile... i would like to stick on to att... so i wanna know if att would be able to recognize my mobile as a smartphone and charge me a dataplan accordingly...
NP man.. Hit Thanks if i helped
I don't think so. Are you on a postpaid plan?
I just confirmed that you could get the Sim only connection from AT&T too. Prepaid connections are generally bundled with dataplans and they stop working once you cross the limit
Thanks man...
My ques is if i swap the sim does ATT automatically recognize nexus s as a smart phone ?? coz of it does it subscribes to the dataplan into my account...:|
yes they will detect your phone eventually.
if you are under contract they can enforce a data plan requirement
i was looong off contract when i switched to a crackberry
but had data blocked on my account
they never tried to force me onto a data add...
fwiw
we threw my old captivate on our sons dumbphone line, turned off data on the phone and AT&T has not said a thing. The account shows the smartphone on it, but no data plan is being forced.

how can i keep this phone without a plan

What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
polish_pat said:
att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
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I know, they sent me some BS email, saying that smartphones require a data plan.
They are designed for surfing the internet and use a lot of data. You are required a data plan
BookinZ06 said:
What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
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Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
k4ce said:
Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
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Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
BookinZ06 said:
Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
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When they identify your phone as a smartphone, they don't do it through the data you send them, they don't through your imei number which is broadcast to att via your sim. So an app or rom won't do you any good. I can't speak for att, but tmobile has a similar policy with all smartphones requiring data but i have used a Nokia n8 on their network for 2 years without anyone tacking on a data plan.
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I'm on at&t prepaid $2/day without data - so far. I bought a data package before they changed their policy to monthly only for smartphones plus data package. I don't talk/text every day, so $2/day seemed worth trying. When they switched policies, I just did not buy a data package and as far as I know, I don't have at&t data access. But I have been able to use my phone for calls. Don't know what will happen when my $100 runs out, but that will probably be several months from now. Meantime I have a mobile hotspot I can use if out and about and think it necessary to check emails.
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You have to talk to a super visor. I have a the nexus without a data plan on att. Had to jump thru hoops though, rep said its done automatically through there computers so it had to be over ridded. And I had to call back
3 times because no one would do it for me.
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[Q] Can I use a SIM card from a tablet on a data plan in a smartphone?

The title expresses my basic question. If I had a tablet that was on a Verizon data plan, could I take the SIM card from it and put it in a smartphone (that had the same size SIM) and use that smartphone on the data plan of the tablet? I understand that I probably won't get the basic phone calls and texting capabilities.
My other question is do you think the following scenario will work, or is there a better way to get a data only plan for a smartphone on Verizon?
Go to Verizon store and purchase a tablet on a data plan. Purchase a Verizon smartphone off of eBay that matches the SIM size of the tablet. Swap the SIM card. Sell tablet on eBay. Set up smartphone with Google voice.
I have found multiple cases of people taking their smartphone SIM card and putting it in a Tablet to use the data on the smartphone plan. But I've never heard of someone doing it the other way. If I put the tablet SIM in the smartphone will I be able to pay by the minute for calls or will I be forced to a VOIP service?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Well I don't know how useful that scenario will be now that Verizon stopped subsidizing their tablets with contract purchases. I was hoping to purchase it on a contract then sell it for more to help with purchasing the phone off contract.
Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to go about this? I want to try and stick with Verizon because they have great coverage in my area.
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
pazi79 said:
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
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I tried to talk them into that last fall and they wouldn't go for it. What I really want to do is get on their shared everything plan with me and my wife and have 2 smartphones on their tablet plan for $60. Which is way better than the $150+ we would pay for the regular smartphone plan.
Is it possible to buy a SIM card from them or ebay and have it activated as a tablet and then stick it in a smartphone? Could I just go in there and say, "I forgot my tablet at home and I need a new SIM card activated on a new plan." Then take it home and put it in myself?
When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
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When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
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Yeah, I understand that. I'm banking on the fact that they will believe me that I have a tablet at home (even though I really don't) and that I need a new SIM card (for whatever reason, like i lost it or my device didnt come with one cuz I bought it on ebay). Basically, activating a new device. Do they NEED the device there at the store to activate the SIM?
No
So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
nsackman22 said:
So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
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I've found from people on HowardForums that this isn't possible. The verizon people need the IMEI of a device to activate the SIM card for it. Also, from them I learned that it is possible to put a SIM from a tablet into a smartphone and use it on data only. I just need to make sure the SIMs are the same size between the two. If I were to sell the tablet afterwards it would have a "bad ESN" and not be able to be activated on the Verizon network because it would be tied to my account. The tablet would still be usable as wifi only.

Att: You're busted!

I've been using my GT-P6200 on my AT&T SIM card w unlimited data for the past 2 years.
I pick the tablet/phone up today and try to dial out. I could not at ATT blocked phone dialing ! But I had data !
So I called and they said that ATT changed my plan INTERNALLY (without warning to me) because I was using a tablet ! So I asked them to reinstate my voice. They did. But then my data was cancelled ! They said my Grandfathered unlimited plan was negated!
They asked if I have been using a tablet. I said no. But here's my question: I have my own device that is not much different than other Samsung large phones except I use 3G NOT LTE. So why is this a problem? Because its called a "tablet"?
What do I tell them? Any suggestions? Your experience is welcome...
tell them the IMEI is a PHONE IMEI, that is the only reason they gave your voice plan back.
The problem with tablets, from what I hear began with the original galaxy tab hacked to make voice calls, it uses more data because of larger webpages, they probably dont want every one doing this.
they kind of surprised me when they carried the Galaxy Mega 6.3
Im glad I have't got busted in my two years, I've never brought it into a store and the one or two times I had to answer what kind of device I had on phone support, I just said samsung galaxy.
Well, I don't have to worry much longer, already pre-ordered Note 3 LTE.
It could all have been a ploy to get rid of your unlimited plan, they will do just about anything to get us all off of that.
From what I have learned is in the IMEI number it tells att what device you are using. If they don't have any devices of that kind to reference they won't recognize it. But ATT has a lot of samsung devices now and can pretty much reference at least the classification of what you have to show it is a tablet.

[Q] Thunderbolt on Tablet prepaid plan

Hi everybody!
Currently I am on Page Plus, because I don't talk or text very much, I currently use WiFi as much as possible with a Droid X2, 3g only.
I have a HTC Thunderbolt that uses full size 4g Sims. It is not activated.
I know that it is possible to activate a tablet on Verizon data only prepaid plan, then put the SIM in a phone, Verizon can't do anything about it because of an agreement they made with the FCC when the were granted permission to the LTE spectrum.
I would love to use the Thunderbolt on the 2gb a month data only play from Verizon for $30 a month.
The only problem is, from what I've read on the forums, the only way to do this is purchase a tablet, activate it, swap SIMs, then sell the tablet if you do not want it. I already have a Galaxy Tab 2, and do not want another tablet.
So I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to obtain the SIM and activate it without having a tablet.
Thanks.

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