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So I found out recently that a mini USB works on our micro USB device. (or is it the other way around) but any way I put a picture of the cable that has replaced the one that came with my Droid Eris.
That is the picture
I realized that the day i got it... 5 minutes after I activated it.
Mini is on the left. Micro is on the right. The Eris takes the mini.
FunkyFender said:
Mini is on the left. Micro is on the right. The Eris takes the mini.
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Correct. MicroUSB is for newer devices. My BB Tour had a Micro and man was it frustrating not having any charging sources compared to all the minis I have.
Yeah HTC likes to use their "proprietary" charger most likely to encourage people to buy chargers and cables only from them, but I have known since about 8 months before the Eris even came out because I was interested in getting the HTC Ozone, which uses the same connector as the Eris (luckily I worked for Verizon at the time and got early news that there were "some exciting new phones coming out that were worth waiting for. Glad I listened and ended up with my Eris instead of a crappy WinMo phone." The only difference between our connectors and a standard mini USB connector is the shape. The pin layout is the same, however some smartphones do use a higher voltage wall charger than some standard phones (ie: Blackberry Curve should not be charged with a Moto RAZR charger as the BB needs more current than the RAZR charger suppies). I am not sure if this would apply to the Eris or if it would actually cause damage to the BB in this case but I have been advised not to try it with BB phones in particular.
cstone1991 said:
Yeah HTC likes to use their "proprietary" charger most likely to encourage people to buy chargers and cables only from them, but I have known since about 8 months before the Eris even came out because I was interested in getting the HTC Ozone, which uses the same connector as the Eris (luckily I worked for Verizon at the time and got early news that there were "some exciting new phones coming out that were worth waiting for. Glad I listened and ended up with my Eris instead of a crappy WinMo phone." The only difference between our connectors and a standard mini USB connector is the shape. The pin layout is the same, however some smartphones do use a higher voltage wall charger than some standard phones (ie: Blackberry Curve should not be charged with a Moto RAZR charger as the BB needs more current than the RAZR charger suppies). I am not sure if this would apply to the Eris or if it would actually cause damage to the BB in this case but I have been advised not to try it with BB phones in particular.
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to be in compliance with the standards to be considered a "certified usb device" the max power of a usb is 5v, the amperage is the only thing that changes (from 500 to 900 mA)
all usb devices are compatible with any number of mA, but the amperage get's throttled for lower amperage devices, and for higher amperage it simply will be enough to power the device to stay on, but not charging.
any of the respectable companies (RIM, moto, HTC, etc) will be fully aware of this, and their chargers are specifically made to stay in compliance with this feature, so you can't possibly cause damage using the wrong charger for any of their devices. however! any of the cheaper brands, or brands that just aren't reputable dont always follow these rules can infact overcharge a device. worst case scenario? it overheats your device (which in most instances simply makes it shut down on it's own a lot and get really warm, which can cause problems, but nothing to severe if you notice in time to stop it) the difference between 500 and 900mA is negligible.
there are some devices that use an extra port or two to pull even more power (from 6 to 24 volts) but if you were to plug this into a device that doesnt have said extra ports, it wont have anything to connect to, and thus, still only charge at the standard 5v, 500-900mA.
(just some usb knowledge for fun, also remember to ALWAYS look at the label on the charger, it most of the time is LEGALLY REQUIRED to have the voltage/amperage on the package or the device itself; if it doesnt match, best bet is to not plug it in. remember not to sue me if I'm not right, I take no responsibility for your own actions.)
European regulations to reduce waste from thrown away cell phone accessories has mandated that phones sold in Europe have common connections. They've decided that all new devices should be MicroUSB, which is why everyone (except apple) moved to it. I don't know how this will affect the iPhone.
now almost all phone company use micro usb
like NOKIA HTC SAMSUNG SONYERICSSON and.......
iloveandroid said:
So I found out recently that a mini USB works on our micro USB device. (or is it the other way around) but any way I put a picture of the cable that has replaced the one that came with my Droid Eris.
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I knew this the day I got my phone. I have since damaged the HTC proprietary cord and have been using mini-usb ever since. No adverse effects other than the trackball scrolling left issue that has started to show. Related perhaps? I only get the issue when I'm plugged into the charger so...
CPCookieMan said:
I knew this the day I got my phone. I have since damaged the HTC proprietary cord and have been using mini-usb ever since. No adverse effects other than the trackball scrolling left issue that has started to show. Related perhaps? I only get the issue when I'm plugged into the charger so...
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Sounds like the trackball issue that occurs because of the location of the trackball pins on the mainboard. The pins get loose from plugging and unplugging the phone and over time cause the trackball to randomly scroll. If you have the extended warranty or insurance, it might be time to use it.
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No adverse effects other than the trackball scrolling left issue that has started to show. Related perhaps? I only get the issue when I'm plugged into the charger so...
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It was the charger being plugged in that caused it for me, but it didn't matter whether it was the HTC cable or a regular miniUSB.
any ideas about resoldering to resolve the issue?
also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657468
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716681
My phone always discharges at 2-3 pm , and i have an extra charger from my motorola milestone, i was thinking of leaving the htc charger here at home and carry the motorola charger with me, but the inspire manual clearly says i should charge it ONLY using the htc charger, what do you guys think? its just nonsense talk? i must say that my milestone screen sometimes acted CRAZY, like it was possesed and random things clicked by themselves , i was told it was because i was using a blackberry charger that had different voltage
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My phone always discharges at 2-3 pm , and i have an extra charger from my motorola milestone, i was thinking of leaving the htc charger here at home and carry the motorola charger with me, but the inspire manual clearly says i should charge it ONLY using the htc charger, what do you guys think? its just nonsense talk? i must say that my milestone screen sometimes acted CRAZY, like it was possesed and random things clicked by themselves , i was told it was because i was using a blackberry charger that had different voltage
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If you have the ability to do so, just use USB charging from the computer. No drivers needed and no worrying about potential power issues unless it happens to be a bad port.
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My phone always discharges at 2-3 pm , and i have an extra charger from my motorola milestone, i was thinking of leaving the htc charger here at home and carry the motorola charger with me, but the inspire manual clearly says i should charge it ONLY using the htc charger, what do you guys think? its just nonsense talk? i must say that my milestone screen sometimes acted CRAZY, like it was possesed and random things clicked by themselves , i was told it was because i was using a blackberry charger that had different voltage
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You can use the other charger. Lithium-Ion batteries have fail-safe circuitry in them. If the charger is producing current outside of the pre-programed range for that battery, it simply will not charge.
Your phone is discharging at 2 am? Sounds like a wet dream to me...
Tribal is right though.
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I've used universal usb car chargers (many I received for free or bought very cheap) with anything that uses usb port to charge the battery. From IPod to most of the Cingular, Sprint and AT&T phones and never had a problem. I always figured that the usb port voltage had to be regulated from the device end considering that all the different devices that plugs into them.
i charge overnight with teh charger from my htc tilt2, but i always carry the inspire charger with me on the road because it charges FASTER than the other chargers i've used it with (PC included). but no, chances are that you wont damage your phone or anything by using another device's charger.
So I was wondering if I could find the original G2 wall charger, the one that came in the box. I bought my phone from craigslist and that guy didnt have the charger for some reason. I've been using some motorola one and very happy with it cause it didnt have rapid charging and battery life was great too (not sure if the charger plays a role). But couple weeks ago the wire got loose and wouldnt connect properly, so I bought this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...331986&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1184wt_950
Ever since I've been using that my phone goes to 100% from 10% in two hours, and battery life has been bad too since using that. I have used the phone the same was as before, I even calibrated it again, tried it with setcpu and no setcpu, used edge only also, tried different roms, used just wifi only etc, and battery life still not same as before. I mean it has to be the charger right? Otherwise it wouldnt have made a difference in using a different one. So I'm trying to find opinions from you guys to see if I can find the original one ( I have no idea what it looks like) or a similar one from ebay/amazon. Thanks for reading!
What is the rated Output on the charger that you have? The stock one is supposed to put out 1 Amp (1000 ma). It isn't uncommon for it to go from 10 to 'full' in 2 hours, but just because the phone shows it full, doesn't mean its there. Are you charging overnight or just for that 2 hour period?
Yes I am charging overnight. Output says 5V, 1A, so I'm guessing thats 1000ma/1Amp?
The G2's cord is rounder at the USB end and the Plug- in end, but I would think it would not make a giant difference since I use a Motorola one since I don't know where my original one went.
OEM HTC charger
I'm not sure if your still looking, but i bought a Brand New OEM HTC charger from eBay. It was the same thing that came with G2. I'm pretty sure by the time you see this it will be sold but they list them everyday so just look at the sellers other items.
Since I'm a new user i cant post links, but the item number is 160619103766
http://web50-shopamerica.htc.com/accessories/accessory_result.htm
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Output says 5V, 1A, so I'm guessing thats 1000ma/1Amp?
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That is the maximum current supported by the charger, but the device may request a lower current. Use something like Battery Monitor Widget or Current Widget to see how much current is actually being drawn over the USB port. The most accurate reading will be taken when the screen is off, the CPU is idle and underclocked, all radios are off, etc.
I had a cheap no-name AC adapter for my DZ, but it caused the touchscreen to go bonkers. I ended up buying one of these adapters:
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=039726
Inexpensive, and having two USB ports is very convenient. One goes to my Mugen DZ charging cradle (phone + spare battery), the other to my BT headset. Any standard USB cable will work. It does not cause problems with the touchscreen, so I can continue to use the phone even while it is charging.
The best I've seen on a DZ is about 650 mA net charge, which means an empty 1800 mAh battery should be fully charged in about 3 hours.
I've seen logs of my dz charging at 680-780mA, so long as you have a 1A output charger it should charge the same. The output is the max rated output, not what its feeding to the phone to charge.
On that note most moto chargers I've seen are 700mA max out and same with a lot of samsung chargers I've owned. I use my original that came with my g2 as well as an old htc diamond wall charger with a sony usb cable lol, I get the same charge from both.
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My sensation has a low voltage current running through the cover while charging. When holding the device while plugged in you get "shocked" (its better described as a tingly feeling). I did not have this problem before but i first noticed it after i got my sensation fixed by Vodafone. I send it in for repair and i don't know wat the exact problem was but they replaced the whole motherboard.
Does anyone have or had the same problem or have any ideas what i could do about it because i don't really want to sent it in again after last time when i had to go without my phone for 3 weeks.
Charger is probably defective. AC current should never get to the phone, but is coming in thru the ground in the charge cable.
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Gunkk said:
Charger is probably defective. AC current should never get to the phone, but is coming in thru the ground in the charge cable.
Sent from my Bricked Energy ROM Sensation.
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or as the antennas are in the back cover this could be another issue?
I have the same issue when I charge the phone with a 3rd party dock. I can't remember having the issue with the AC charger. I'm going to test this tomorrow. However, I don't see this as a problem.
I dont think it is the charger because it also accurs when charging via my usb port on my laptop with a different cable. Its just so weird lol.
Maybe it is indeed the antennas. I will try with a backcover of the sensation of a friend of mine, when i have the chance, to see what happens. It is not really a big problem but i'm worried this will lead to other problems.
I also facing the same problem since beginning of buying this sensation. I'm using the stock charger that come with the phone. I think this is normal. Its happen to all my phone before (HD2, Desire, DHD and now sensation).
No others side effect happen from this tingly feeling to the phone.
Stock psu provides 5V DC.
One suggested solution is carefully bend up the silver contact on the back of the phone.
xaccers said:
Stock psu provides 5V DC.
One suggested solution is carefully bend up the silver contact on the back of the phone.
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yes bending the contacts works, and you're good with soldering iron try putting some solder on the housing itself to give full contact to the back housing. works for me and there's a thread on this (with pictures too) try a search for that thread
Dekr said:
I dont think it is the charger because it also accurs when charging via my usb port on my laptop with a different cable. Its just so weird lol.
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I get it too charging via USB. Its like a static shock in the wintertime when you scuff your shoes on carpet and touch a doorknob.
Dekr said:
It is not really a big problem but i'm worried this will lead to other problems.
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I don't really think its a problem, but energizing to say the least.
Dekr said:
My sensation has a low voltage current running through the cover while charging. When holding the device while plugged in you get "shocked" (its better described as a tingly feeling). I did not have this problem before but i first noticed it after i got my sensation fixed by Vodafone. I send it in for repair and i don't know wat the exact problem was but they replaced the whole motherboard.
Does anyone have or had the same problem or have any ideas what i could do about it because i don't really want to sent it in again after last time when i had to go without my phone for 3 weeks.
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This issue may be due to it being repaired, I mean everyone has an off day and makes a mistake. But also you are not the first person that has posted noticing the tingling sensation you get when you are charging your Sensation either. So who knows this could be yet another small problem us users are finding with the device, I have not passed judgment yet.
Gunkk said:
Charger is probably defective. AC current should never get to the phone, but is coming in thru the ground in the charge cable.
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This is highly unlikely, most standard USB wall chargers do not have a ground prong to connect to insert into the ground terminal of a wall receptical. Also a USB cable only has two wires for power transfer. Meaning one is for the positive and one for the negative to complete the circuit. Not to mention if this was the cause the OP would not be complaining about getting a tingle, but of constantly having to re trip a breacker or replace a blown fuzz.
I don't get shocked if I touch the phone while it's charging but if I touch it with the dorsal side of my finger/hand there is a slight buzzing feeling, like a high frequency, low amplitude vibration. This only happens if I touch it with only one hand/finger. If there are more contact points, the buzzing feeling disappears. So when I pick up the phone the buzzing disappears.
Ok, first a little background on this issue...
After having my S3 for about 13-14 months I started having charging issues. The charging port was very "loose" and I had to make sure my charger cable was in just right to get my phone to charge. This was annoying, however was out of warranty and didn't want to pay vzw for an insurance claim. This got worse, and eventually I noticed my phone would only charge with 1 specific usb cable, 1 specific wall charger, and 1 specific car charger.
Well, I finally called Samsung and explained the situation to them and they had me chip my phone to them and they would repair it, free of charge. When they had it, they replaced the charging port, the headphone jack, and the screen. I received the phone back after couple weeks, super excited, and immediately charged it up with the cable I had next to my bed. New charging port felt perfect, nice snug fit, etc... Well, after a few days i hooked it up with the original usb cable that came with the phone, nothing happened. So i started messing around and realized that the only usb cables that will charge my phone are Motorola brand cables! At least the 2 cables I have work, and not a single other cable I've tried works! This includes stock Samsung cable, many cheap 3rd party cables, other friend's S3 cables, none work. Also, I have this cheap car charger that is the type you plug a USB cable into that works, however any other car charger I've tried does not work either.
Also, when i say the cables won't charge my phone, it also won't connect the phone to a PC. They do absolutely nothing.
Does anyone have ANY idea why this is happening?!?! It was an issue before Samsung repaired my phone, they replaced the charging port, but I still have this issue!! I can send it back to Samsung for them to look at it again, however my backup phone, a Razr Maxx, just died also. Seems like the battery went dead and now I can't get it to charge, but that's another issue.
So, any ideas?!
JHibinger said:
Ok, first a little background on this issue...
After having my S3 for about 13-14 months I started having charging issues. The charging port was very "loose" and I had to make sure my charger cable was in just right to get my phone to charge. This was annoying, however was out of warranty and didn't want to pay vzw for an insurance claim. This got worse, and eventually I noticed my phone would only charge with 1 specific usb cable, 1 specific wall charger, and 1 specific car charger.
Well, I finally called Samsung and explained the situation to them and they had me chip my phone to them and they would repair it, free of charge. When they had it, they replaced the charging port, the headphone jack, and the screen. I received the phone back after couple weeks, super excited, and immediately charged it up with the cable I had next to my bed. New charging port felt perfect, nice snug fit, etc... Well, after a few days i hooked it up with the original usb cable that came with the phone, nothing happened. So i started messing around and realized that the only usb cables that will charge my phone are Motorola brand cables! At least the 2 cables I have work, and not a single other cable I've tried works! This includes stock Samsung cable, many cheap 3rd party cables, other friend's S3 cables, none work. Also, I have this cheap car charger that is the type you plug a USB cable into that works, however any other car charger I've tried does not work either.
Also, when i say the cables won't charge my phone, it also won't connect the phone to a PC. They do absolutely nothing.
Does anyone have ANY idea why this is happening?!?! It was an issue before Samsung repaired my phone, they replaced the charging port, but I still have this issue!! I can send it back to Samsung for them to look at it again, however my backup phone, a Razr Maxx, just died also. Seems like the battery went dead and now I can't get it to charge, but that's another issue.
So, any ideas?!
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What rom/kernal
It doesn't matter. It does this when it is totally stock and rooted. Right now I'm not rooted or anything because it looks like it may be going back to Samsung again.
JHibinger said:
It doesn't matter. It does this when it is totally stock and rooted. Right now I'm not rooted or anything because it looks like it may be going back to Samsung again.
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I think the smart charging circuit may be messed up
Really? How would that cause the phone to not work with any cable except a certain brand?? I'm just really curious and this is driving me insane!!
JHibinger said:
Really? How would that cause the phone to not work with any cable except a certain brand?? I'm just really curious and this is driving me insane!!
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I would say you are putting mechanical stress on the charging port. This could be from some misaligned or mis-made cable or somehow pressing or pulling the charge cable when its connected. I've never seen this reported by anyone else, but the mechanical connections are not indestructible. If it were a common symptom with 100 million S3s having been sold, there would be a firestorm of complaints.
I have a similar issue. I'm not sure if it's the device or the ROM (CM nightlies).
Certain cables force the screen to turn back on, which means I get negative charge because the screen burns more than the charger is capable of supplying. Other cables are fine. I'm still looking for the pattern, it's super annoying and causes me to have to turn my phone off completely at times so as not to lose my battery altogether. I'm still trying to solve this, any help would be appreciated.
rgrossie said:
I have a similar issue. I'm not sure if it's the device or the ROM (CM nightlies).
Certain cables force the screen to turn back on, which means I get negative charge because the screen burns more than the charger is capable of supplying. Other cables are fine. I'm still looking for the pattern, it's super annoying and causes me to have to turn my phone off completely at times so as not to lose my battery altogether. I'm still trying to solve this, any help would be appreciated.
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Further info- it's not the cable, it's the converter at the end. I think it has to do with amperage of the charger- if I use the stock samsung one I'm good, it's putting out 1.0A. If I use others that are fewer amps (like 700 mA) it's unpredictable. I suspect a kernel thing, I might download different kernels to play with it.
rgrossie said:
Further info- it's not the cable, it's the converter at the end. I think it has to do with amperage of the charger- if I use the stock samsung one I'm good, it's putting out 1.0A. If I use others that are fewer amps (like 700 mA) it's unpredictable. I suspect a kernel thing, I might download different kernels to play with it.
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Always use chargers that is 1 A - 2A the circuit controls most of the charging regulating amps and voltage
Yes, I agree about using good chargers, but my phone wasn't always this way. It used to charge with anything, but no longer.
I enabled fast charge on Imosyen's lean kernel. That might have made a difference, but I'm not positive yet.