I've owned a nexus 4 for six months before this. The screen feels better than the nexus 4 in hand, don't know if it's because of the gorilla glass 3 or different coating. Did anyone's coating wear off yet? I'm refraining from cleaning the display because I'm scared the coating will wear off. It also isn't getting dirty in the first place, the oleophobic coating is good this time.
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I've owned a nexus 4 for six months before this. The screen feels better than the nexus 4 in hand, don't know if it's because of the gorilla glass 3 or different coating. Did anyone's coating wear off yet? I'm refraining from cleaning the display because I'm scared the coating will wear off. It also isn't getting dirty in the first place, the oleophobic coating is good this time.
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I never had an issue with the N4 regarding the oleophic coating wearing off bro.
On the Corning website there is a whitepaper about the Gorilla Glass 3 coating. It was specifically designed to withstand wiping, 20,000 wipes so and that's with the worst case scenario "rubbing the screen on your clothes". It also recovers over 99% of the screen visibility in just a wipe or two.
It did also outline using different cleaning products and chemicals. All of them degraded the coating and were not recommended.
Do spigen clear screen protectors 10 bucks for a three pack and solved.
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I never had an issue with the N4 regarding the oleophic coating wearing off bro.
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I did. But it was after about 6 months of use and I think I made the mistake of using windex with alcohol to clean it. Lesson learned...
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I did. But it was after about 6 months of use and I think I made the mistake of using windex with alcohol to clean it. Lesson learned...
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Mine wore off after 3 weeks. Not the entire screen though. More like two lines towards the bottom of the screen. Call Google Play to get it replaced. It really shouldn't happen within 3 weeks of use.
On my nexus 4 which I got last year at launch, the coating has worn off in two places, only noticed this the last month or so. Never used anything to clean it apart from a bit of spit and my tea shirt a few times.
1) Where I scroll web pages, lower rightish, about an inch or so long and a finger tip+ wide.
2) A very small patch right at the bottom in the middle, where I slide up for pie controls.
I hope the n5 has a more durable coating.
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I did. But it was after about 6 months of use and I think I made the mistake of using windex with alcohol to clean it. Lesson learned...
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Yikes, Windex has ammonia. Very hard on this kind of stuff.
Guys, use a dry microfiber cloth. You can get it slightly damp with water to power through any dried on pieces of god-knows-what. Your coating should outlast the phone.
Microfiber is king. I never even have to wet it down.
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Ok this is the first time I hear about the coating on Gorilla glass wearing off. This stuff is fused into the glass. I've used windex, alcohol and other chemicals on both my N4 and N5 and have never seen any wear marks of any kind.
How do you know you have a wear spot? Can anyone post a picture?
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Ok this is the first time I hear about the coating on Gorilla glass wearing off. This stuff is fused into the glass. I've used windex, alcohol and other chemicals on both my N4 and N5 and have never seen any wear marks of any kind.
How do you know you have a wear spot? Can anyone post a picture?
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Corning recommends not using any chemicals. They degrade the coating somewhat as it was designed to make wiping marks and stains away easy with only cloth. 10 wipes a day should last 5 years or so.
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Corning recommends not using any chemicals. They degrade the coating somewhat as it was designed to make wiping marks and stains away easy with only cloth. 10 wipes a day should last 5 years or so.
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OK, I can understand what the glass manufacturer recommends but I was asking for pictures. Had anyone had actually damaged it using cleaning fluids? Like I mentioned, I've used windex and alcohol on my N4 almost each day for the past year and the screen looks brand new each time I clean it.
I would not recommend Windex as it can actually undergo chemical reactions with coatings. Diluted alcohol-based lens cleaners should be safer.
I had my first N5 for a few weeks but it had 7 dead pixels, so I got an RMA swap. The first one I just threw in my pocket without any protection, and after two weeks I noticed in very bright direct light a few tiny surface scratches - presumably in the surface coating. Not as bad as what would happen on Galaxy Nexus but I didn't want it to get any worse. So now I'm using a screen protector.
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I would not recommend Windex as it can actually undergo chemical reactions with coatings. Diluted alcohol-based lens cleaners should be safer.
I had my first N5 for a few weeks but it had 7 dead pixels, so I got an RMA swap. The first one I just threw in my pocket without any protection, and after two weeks I noticed in very bright direct light a few tiny surface scratches - presumably in the surface coating. Not as bad as what would happen on Galaxy Nexus but I didn't want it to get any worse. So now I'm using a screen protector.
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That's surface scratches... totally different than some wear spots from some presumable coating coming off.
I'm sorry but I think your note about some chemical reaction with Windex is total BS. That's just from my experience actually using Windex on the surface.
I've used a damp microfiber cloth to wipe my screen. I felt that my finger didn't glide as smooth as before with my Nexus 4 before. But the coating on the nexus 5 is great, I never even had to wipe my screen yet because the coating is just that good.
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That's surface scratches... totally different than some wear spots from some presumable coating coming off.
I'm sorry but I think your note about some chemical reaction with Windex is total BS. That's just from my experience actually using Windex on the surface.
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Have it your way. Ammonia is a nucleophile. It can open up certain types of chemical bonds. Prolonged use with any sort of polymer such as a coating can cause permanent chemical changes.
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I too have never hear of the coating coming off. I'm a paramedic and use some harsh cleaners on my phone and have never had a problem.
Edit: I realized this this discussion is more about the screen coating screen cracks, I have made a different post instead. I did not delete this post encase it is interesting as it is screen related, however if you feal it is to off topic I will delete it.
I have been lucky so far but my co-worker's phone died not even two weeks in. He said his kid had knocked a glass (cup/mug) over hitting the screen at an unusual angle.
The phone it self works grate but it must have caught the screen at the wrong angle for it to crack. I say this because I have dropped my Nexus 5 with some force and it has been fine so far. Also its not often I see a crack starting from the side (see pic) and not one of the corners.
The only place here in Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) that would repair it had a price that was ~50 shy of a brand new Nexus 5 (he has a 16gig).
Edit: The screen protector in the pic was not attached during the crack it is a iPhone4 protector added after the crack so that the phone can be used without bleeding fingers.
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A bit of a thread bump, but this came up in my search... I had my Nexus 5 since launch day, but in the last few months I have noticed two rather large areas of the middle of the screen are always oily or "smudged".
If I clean the screen by carefully applying sellotape and then lifting, all oil and smudges are removed, but even after cleaning my hands and using the screen lightly in the same two areas there is always a permanent smudge, and in those areas it feels different, as if the coating is removed.
I have not used any screen protectors or cleaners and I take great care of my Nexus.
It is annoying with the glare.
I haven't had a phone do this before..
I have started a more recent thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2637312 but perhaps this thread will have subscribers viewing it.
Cheers
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While similar to the other thread regarding the coating wearing off, I seem to be suffering a different problem with various Nexus S's I've gone through over the past two weeks. I'll do my best to describe the problem, but bear with me as I'll try to be as detailed as possible.
I typically keep my phone in one of three places. It's always either in my inside pocket of my pea coat, one of the angled pockets on the outside of the same coat, or it's in the right pocket of my slacks. It is never in these pockets with any other objects and has either been naked, in the Nexus One pouch, or in the G1 pouch as recommended by several other XDAers.
My first Nexus S formed a pattern right over the menu button on the bottom of the phone. They resembled scratches at first glance, but if you were to completely clean the phone with a microfiber cloth and some rubbing alcohol, they would disappear entirely. Even in most lighting situations, you would never be able to see the pattern that formed. It only became easily visible after I had used the phone and smudged it up with fingerprints. Thinking they were scuffs, I also tried to rub them out with other cloths and solutions, none of which helped whatsoever.
This pattern over the menu button drove me crazy enough that I exchanged it with Best Buy.
My second Nexus S did well for about a week until I noticed a similar pattern forming near the top of the phone by the earpiece. It was three or four slightly curved horizontal lines that all behaved just as the previous pattern did on my last Nexus S.
I traced the cause of these lines back to the G1 pouch as the inseam of the case was rubbing against the screen. Thus, I no longer use the pouch anymore.
Still within the holiday return period, I decided to exchange this model as well. I currently have a brand-spankin' new Nexus S with zero screen defects that I have been hesitant to put in ANY pouch or keep in ANY pocket.
I would opt for a screen protector at this point, but that really defeats the purpose of having the oleophobic coating in the first place. I also have the Tech21 d3o pouch and two of the generic Samsung pouches from Hong Kong set to arrive in the next couple weeks.
Has anybody else noticed this with their Nexus S? I would post pics but I returned both phones with the issue and I have not a camera that would have been able to capture such detail.
Stop using chemicals to clean your screen.
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Stop using chemicals to clean your screen.
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Why? Is battery acid bad for it or something?
Mine has a spot where it kinda got messed up. but if you wipe the oils off that spot, you can't see it at all. It annoys me, and I've thought of exchanging it. But my thinking it's just going to happen on the next phone anyway. I don't want to exchange it for a phone that might really be defective, so for now I am trying to not think about it. After all, it's a phone, and over time it's gonna get dings and scratched anyway.... Just like a $50k sports car that you use every day. It's inevitable.
That's about where I'm at with this problem too, except I really didn't think cosmetic defects like this would happen within the first month!
I kept my Nexus One significantly longer than any other phone I've ever owned and the only cosmetic damage it ever incurred was when my girlfriend threw hers on the bed and it landed on mine. Even that incident only caused a minor scuff in the corner of the phone. The screen, Teflon, metal bezel, all of them remained perfect.
Yeah, I hear you. My droid 1 lasted me from launch date up until I got my nexus s. Never put a screen protector on it, just kept it in my pants pocket. It's been dropped, has a couple dings, but the screen is perfect. I cleaned it with my shirt, jeans or whatever.
I'm just hoping that if the coating on the nexus s gets worse and wears more, that it can be totally removed with no traces left behind. I don't really care too much about finger prints, as i'll just wipe them off.
if you pay top dollar for a phone, then you should take the extra steps to purchase proper cleaning solutions for your device. The reason why some people are experiencing this problem is because they are probably using solvents or abrasive cloths that damages the oleophobic coating. For example, like using rubbing alcohol. This stuff is just not wearing off, people are rubbing it off.
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@j.bruha: maybe your problem could depends on your after shave (i.e. on your second phone that had problems on top) or on an hand care cream (even too much aggressive)... I think it's very strange that you have the same problem with 3 terminals in less than a week.
Completely unrelated, but how do you like the Tech 21 pouch? Would you mind starting a thread with a couple pictures? I know a lot of people have been asking about Tech 21 and their d3o stuff.
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if you pay top dollar for a phone, then you should take the extra steps to purchase proper cleaning solutions for your device. The reason why some people are experiencing this problem is because they are probably using solvents or abrasive cloths that damages the oleophobic coating. For example, like using rubbing alcohol. This stuff is just not wearing off, people are rubbing it off.
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That's not true at all. Many people who have had these issues said they never used any chemicals or liquids to clean the screen.
That is correct. These "chemicals" were used after the lines started forming. To be more descriptive about said chemicals, I used medical alcohol squares and wipes designed specifically for phones that I picked up from work to try to clean the screen after I noticed the damage. These same chemicals were used on all of the Nexus Ones that came through my household and none of them ever showed any signs of damage at all.
As I said in the original post, these are solid lines that seem to have shown up due to something pressing against the phone either repeatedly or hard enough to make these inconsistencies, despite the fact that all of the phones have been exceptionally well taken care of. Again, I won't call them scratches since they only show up in certain lighting conditions and after smudges start to form from usage. I've seen scratches on a Vibrant I borrowed before I bought the Nexus S and this is totally different. The only similarity is that they're straight lines and not entire sections or hairline scratches like the back of the phone collects too easily.
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Completely unrelated, but how do you like the Tech 21 pouch? Would you mind starting a thread with a couple pictures? I know a lot of people have been asking about Tech 21 and their d3o stuff.
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As soon as it arrives, I'll fire up a new thread with some pictures of it. It's supposed to arrive sometime next week.
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That's not true at all. Many people who have had these issues said they never used any chemicals or liquids to clean the screen.
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This is what I said " they are probably using solvents or abrasive cloths that damages the oleophobic coating." It's already proven the NS doesn't have gorilla glass so if you continuously go thru your day without a screen protector then micro-scratches will occur through daily usage of taking it in and out of your pockets, purses, messenger bag, etc. If you're using harsh solvents to clean your screen, then you risk damaging the screen. If you're using abrasive cloths, you risk damaging the screen. Even constant swyping with your finger, eventually the dust particles will scratch it up, plain and simple. The first thread I saw of this, you can tell from the swirls on the screen, more so than not, he rubbed something abrasive or harsh chemicals into his screen and screwed it up himself.
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This is what I said " they are probably using solvents or abrasive cloths that damages the oleophobic coating." It's already proven the NS doesn't have gorilla glass so if you continuously go thru your day without a screen protector then micro-scratches will occur through daily usage of taking it in and out of your pockets, purses, messenger bag, etc. If you're using harsh solvents to clean your screen, then you risk damaging the screen. If you're using abrasive cloths, you risk damaging the screen. Even constant swyping with your finger, eventually the dust particles will scratch it up, plain and simple. The first thread I saw of this, you can tell from the swirls on the screen, more so than not, he rubbed something abrasive or harsh chemicals into his screen and screwed it up himself.
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Do you work for best buy?...lol
j.bruha said:
While similar to the other thread regarding the coating wearing off, I seem to be suffering a different problem with various Nexus S's I've gone through over the past two weeks. I'll do my best to describe the problem, but bear with me as I'll try to be as detailed as possible.
I typically keep my phone in one of three places. It's always either in my inside pocket of my pea coat, one of the angled pockets on the outside of the same coat, or it's in the right pocket of my slacks. It is never in these pockets with any other objects and has either been naked, in the Nexus One pouch, or in the G1 pouch as recommended by several other XDAers.
My first Nexus S formed a pattern right over the menu button on the bottom of the phone. They resembled scratches at first glance, but if you were to completely clean the phone with a microfiber cloth and some rubbing alcohol, they would disappear entirely. Even in most lighting situations, you would never be able to see the pattern that formed. It only became easily visible after I had used the phone and smudged it up with fingerprints. Thinking they were scuffs, I also tried to rub them out with other cloths and solutions, none of which helped whatsoever.
This pattern over the menu button drove me crazy enough that I exchanged it with Best Buy.
My second Nexus S did well for about a week until I noticed a similar pattern forming near the top of the phone by the earpiece. It was three or four slightly curved horizontal lines that all behaved just as the previous pattern did on my last Nexus S.
I traced the cause of these lines back to the G1 pouch as the inseam of the case was rubbing against the screen. Thus, I no longer use the pouch anymore.
Still within the holiday return period, I decided to exchange this model as well. I currently have a brand-spankin' new Nexus S with zero screen defects that I have been hesitant to put in ANY pouch or keep in ANY pocket.
I would opt for a screen protector at this point, but that really defeats the purpose of having the oleophobic coating in the first place. I also have the Tech21 d3o pouch and two of the generic Samsung pouches from Hong Kong set to arrive in the next couple weeks.
Has anybody else noticed this with their Nexus S? I would post pics but I returned both phones with the issue and I have not a camera that would have been able to capture such detail.
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Off topic but how long do we have to exchange the Nexus S
Android Touch said:
Off topic but how long do we have to exchange the Nexus S
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Best Buy's return period was extended until January 31st for everything purchased during the holiday season. If you bought it recently, you have 30 days from the date of purchase.
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Do you work for best buy?...lol
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If you must know....read a few of my post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877497 and i'm sure you're intelligent enough to make a calculated guess.
Great thinking outside the box. Maybe he is shaving with Occam's razor? HAR HAR!
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@j.bruha: maybe your problem could depends on your after shave (i.e. on your second phone that had problems on top) or on an hand care cream (even too much aggressive)... I think it's very strange that you have the same problem with 3 terminals in less than a week.
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Not sure if this is the same thing happening to anyone, but this has happened on two out of the four phones I have had (others had touch screen issues, right side of screen would stop responding) Basically what happens is after about 4 days a area developes on the screen that looks just a little darker than the rest of the screen. If I touch it, it leaves a finger print. If I wipe it, the print kinda disapears, but there is still a very faint dark mark. I have only used a microfiber cloth to clean all of my phones, and I've never had this issue with any of my other phones including my Nexus one and Vibrant.
As you can see on this phone it forms in the shape of a tear drop. My other phone it happened next to the ear piece and was much bigger.
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Curious to see if anyone is having this issue.
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I think I'm having the same issue as you have. It's happened two of the four phones I've been through. The first time near the ear piece, on the new one, on the bottom left of the actual screen.
Anyone else noticed that if you do use your Note 10.1 with your finger instead of the stylus, it's smudge city?!??! Compared to my spouse's ipad, it's like night and day. If we both use our tablets for 20 minutes, then turn them off, the ipad shows very few faint smudges, while my note 10.1 looks like grease on top of grease.
What i really want to know is if anyone has found a great screen cover/film that doesn't in any way inhibit the stylus but that is more smudge free than the glass as it comes.
Of course most of the time when the screen is on and bright you don't notice the smudges, but if you go to watch a movie then anytime there's a dark scene the smudges are VERY annoying.
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Well the upside is that with the gorilla glass a simple wipe on the pant leg and all smudges are gone. I have never used an iPad before so cant comment but any Android tablet or phone i have ever used gets filthy pretty fast. We humans are oily creatures.
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I don't notice smudges on the glass at all and I rarely use my stylus.
funny, i was noticing how smudge resistant this note is compared to 10 of my other devices lol.
Same here
I also see the smudges everywhere. I just keep a microfiber cloth with me and am constantly wiping it clean. Using the Pen instead does help a lot.
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I also see the smudges everywhere. I just keep a microfiber cloth with me and am constantly wiping it clean. Using the Pen instead does help a lot.
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Same here
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Yes, it does get a lot of smudges. Two things, either matted screen protector or micro fiber cloth will do the job.
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Yes i have noticed alot of smudges. I dont use screen protectors but i do use Rainx ( 2-3 coats) on a clean screen and smudges are less and it is a lot easier to get rid of the ones you do get. you will need to coat is every couple of weeks. A couple drops on a rag- Wax on wax off...:fingers-crossed:
You can find it in most auto sections in stores. Been using it a long time and swear by it. :angel:
As is in every aspect of life every person has a different constitution of her/his finger grease. So You can't compare another one's iPad with Your 10.1 AND MOST IMPORTANT !!!!! almost all Screens of Tabs and phones are the same gorilla glass.
So why should one screen be more susceptible to finger grease than others if it's always the same glass ?
WASH YOUR HANDS !:laugh:
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WASH YOUR HANDS !:laugh:
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was thinking the same thing, lol.
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A piece of cloth designed for cleaning glasses in one´s pocket will do an excellent job too, one swipe and the GG is clean :laugh:
i've used rain-x since the old nook color. it doesn't stop streaks, but makes them come off easier. i quit using it after someone said that i could destroy the oiliph-something coating that supposed keep it streak free. but since it doesn't work well i may just go back to the rain-x. and my ipad does get just as smudgy, it's just easier to clean.
Lol if there is a coating on here that is supposed to keep it streak free it isn't working.
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I use the small yellow bottle of rainX for windshields- original glass treatment. and place a couple drops on a rag and wipe in on and wipe it off. repeat 2-3 times and glass is smooth as butter and - for me- alot less smudges- and yes the ones you do get come off alot quicker.
I have used it on every device i have owned and never had issues with coating etc.... :angel:
Yes a dry rag will work too- but you wont have to use the rag as much if you coat with Rainx. just saying.
Now when it comes to flu-season: get a hand disinfectant liquid, use it always before You tap Your screen and You'll be smudgefree and free of flu :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
I always use that after i .......... nvm.. just know its like baking soda, used for everything! : D
we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
LOL - so the consensus is just that I have very dirty, oily hands! Thanks for that. Well, I "heard" that the ipad glass has an anti-smudge coating, but that was from an i-everything fanboy so who knows. I wondered if our gorilla glass screen was treated differently for some reason because of the stylus. Doesn't sound like it.
I do use a micro-fiber cloth and yes, it does remove the smudges, especially if used in conjunction with a tablet/laptop screen cleaning solution. I just didn't know if someone had a recommendation for a screen film that was anti-smudge, but I didn't really want to use one of those anyway as I'm afraid it would effect smoothness of use with stylus.
Still debating the rain-x idea. Never thought of that. Like the idea - little worried about long term effects.
Okay, I'm going to go wash my dirty, oily hands again now...
FWIW, I have very dry hands which would account form the lack of finger prints. On top of that, I rarely eat junk food. When I did have some chips the other night my screen showed the prints.
Does any of you proud X owners think that if one applies the a screen protector incorrectly (bits of dust between the protector and the screen) or something similiar, that it could cause the screen to scratch, having a sand-like effect? I'm really paranoid about the screen when it's naked...
btw. how the hell am i supposed to put on a protector without air bubbles? Seems impossible.
I dunno about the first question. But you're supposed to be able to put it on using a credit card to smooth it out as you apply it. In saying that, I've never done it successfully
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Does any of you proud X owners think that if one applies the a screen protector incorrectly (bits of dust between the protector and the screen) or something similiar, that it could cause the screen to scratch, having a sand-like effect? I'm really paranoid about the screen when it's naked...
btw. how the hell am i supposed to put on a protector without air bubbles? Seems impossible.
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I doubt having anything under the screen protector would harm these screens. The junk stuck under it isn't going to move as it's stuck in the adhesive.
The best way to apply them (for me anyways) is to clean the screen with an LCD cleaner (or make your own), use tape to blot up anything else, wipe again.
Next--I have found by taking the first layer of the film protecting the screen protector upside down works best. Dust and debris can fall and settle on the sticky side. Then carefully apply. As long as you don't touch the adhesive side, you can pick it up and keep applying the protector until you get it right. You want the top of the protector just about even with the AT&T globe.
Enjoy.....
By using tape do you mean using scotch tape, sticking it on the screen and pulling off?
I'll try washing my screen protector, drying it up, cleaning the screen with MF cloth, taping it up and then hopefully I'll be able to apply it perfectly! :fingers-crossed:
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Does any of you proud X owners think that if one applies the a screen protector incorrectly (bits of dust between the protector and the screen) or something similiar, that it could cause the screen to scratch, having a sand-like effect?
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If you trap a particle of dust under the protector that has a hardness greater than the screen, yes, it will eventually scratch the screen in that spot.
However: Gorilla Glass has a Mohs hardness of around 9, which means there is not a lot in the mineral world that can scratch it. The likelihood of your trapping something like that under the screen protector, if you apply it correctly, is not great.
You should be able to remove a particle big enough to scratch your phone from the screen protector without having to wash the protector. I think you would ruin the screen protector if you wash it.
I've used packaging tape as it leaves no residue. Done it for years before with iPhones before owning an Android.
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When you apply your screen protector, do it in a washroom with a hot shower running. The steamy air will prevent dust from getting under it.
I will try that out. I always seem to get a bit of dust or lint on the corner of my screen protectors.
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When you apply your screen protector, do it in a washroom with a hot shower running. The steamy air will prevent dust from getting under it.
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Just don't wait too long, not sure if the humidity sensor would get affected.
The way I do it: obviously, I clean the screen then remove completely the clear layer from under to make sure no dust will fall in. I'm holding the screen protector with the tips of my fingers on the sides and gently bend it across (the long) median then align with the phone's screen (this is the hard part). Put the screen protector on the screen at this stge the contact area will be the median line, and then use a credit card and work your way to the eges (one side at a time). I never got any bubbles under this way. I caught some dust particles few times though. It takes patience but it pays off, currently I have no dust or bubbles on it.
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If you trap a particle of dust under the protector that has a hardness greater than the screen, yes, it will eventually scratch the screen in that spot.
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If the particle is trapped in one place and can't move, I don't see how it can cause a scratch.
Plus, if any dust gets on the screen during the application process (as long as you've done a halfway decent job), its probably airborne. So its not grit or sand or anything like that (which would just fall to the ground instantly) but more likely skin, ash, etc.
A little preparation and a few tricks will go a long way to a good screen protector install. My process is:
1) Use a wet apply protector. Don't know why, but I've had vastly better results (no dust under protector) with wet apply rather than dry ones. I got to the point where I can do a dry type almost flawlessly, but only after lots of practice and a great amount of care. But even so, there still tends to be a dust particle or two. With wet apply, the first one I ever tried was perfectly dust free with little effort, and the subsequent ones also.
2) Before starting, examine the protector and see how it fits on the phone. With the backing still on the protector, place it on the phone's screen and match up the openings and edges to familiarize yourself.
3) As previously mentioned, use steam to pull dust out of the air. I run a hot shower for 5-10 minutes, then apply the protector in the bathroom. It won't eliminate all the dust, but makes a big difference.
4) Wipe the screen off with a micro-fiber cloth (often included with better quality wet apply protectors).
5) Blow off the screen with a can of compressed air (the kind used to dust electronics and whatnot) to get rid of any remaining dust.
6) Spray the application solution. Quickly apply the protector. As another mentioned, don't hold the sticky side up after you take the backing off, or it will instantly catch dust. Put the protector on quickly, don't let the sticky side touch anything but the screen. Handle the protector as little as possible, and by the edges.
7) Squeegee the protector down with a credit card (make sure the edge of the card is smooth) or some protectors will include a rubber squeegee. Blot the excess moisture at the edges. Then leave the phone alone while it dries.
The best investment for my smartphone has been Ghost Armor. I have spent so much money on packs of screen protectors. A couple years ago I decided $45 was worth it if I only needed to do it once a year. You won't regret it, and you don't have to install it.
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The best investment for my smartphone has been Ghost Armor. I have spent so much money on packs of screen protectors. A couple years ago I decided $45 was worth it if I only needed to do it once a year. You won't regret it, and you don't have to install it.
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I've also heard horror stories about peoples phones not working after they are done or the screen not functioning afterwards. And since you sign an agreement they aren't liable
No thank you
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Npsacobra said:
The best investment for my smartphone has been Ghost Armor. I have spent so much money on packs of screen protectors. A couple years ago I decided $45 was worth it if I only needed to do it once a year. You won't regret it, and you don't have to install it.
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I replace about 3 screen protectors a year (bought from amazon clear ones, 3 for $1.99). Other than a little rainbow effect when the screen is off, no regrets looks just like glass. I've been through many protectors before (ridiculously many on my first 'smartphones' rip moto ming, touchpro 1&2) but I can't justify the cost anymore, I'd rather have none (since I change my device every 8-12 months).
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I went with ghost armor myself, they installed for like 22 bucks.
No issues to report.
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Npsacobra said:
The best investment for my smartphone has been Ghost Armor. I have spent so much money on packs of screen protectors. A couple years ago I decided $45 was worth it if I only needed to do it once a year. You won't regret it, and you don't have to install it.
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Screen protectors that come in packs are crap. The higher quality kind that cost $15 or so (Skinomi, Zag, etc) are in a different class. I've had a Skinomi on my One X since release (May), and one on my Flyer for almost a year and a half. Both are still looking great.
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I've never used a screen protector. Don't like the feel of them. This phone has great glass. I'm a mechanic and I keep my phone in my pocket all day (screen towards my leg of course) and not one scratch
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I use Xtremeguard. Wet application and every time I get a perfect install. No bubbles no particles.
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I use Xtremeguard. Wet application and every time I get a perfect install. No bubbles no particles.
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Was gonna say the same bout my Zagg...love it! Wet application and a squeegee, works perfect every time. The wet app also can aide with alignment if you don't get it just right, you can still move it before you squeegee.
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Not sure if this is still relevant, but I will put a vote for Ghost Armor as well. I have it for all my devices and it's like there's nothing there. Crystal clear and screen responsiveness is great. Had Zagg before and the orange peel feel and stickiness made me remove it. Those cheap packs aren't great either, they scratch up very very quickly.
How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
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Normally its supposed to be decently strong. However, due to the design of the phone and the way the glass curves around the edges, it isn't uncommon for the point of impact to be directly on the glass. This creates a vulnerability for the device and is why you see so many broken S3s. This phone requires a case.
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Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small
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How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
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I think two inch fall will cause no damage don't you think? Unless you meant two feet.
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I have a uag case, too risky not to. I dropped mine from my mouth into the floor at the gas station. My only concern was getting it sanitized so I didn't get any germs.
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The problem with Gorilla Glass is the corners. From my experiences anyway. A short drop right on the corner completely wrecked my screen once. But I think two inches is quite an exaggeration. Had to be at least 2ft. Maybe a foot.
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Had this phone for months with no case and it still looks great. Been through a couple medium drops (nothing too crazy, but a couple feet onto concrete from the car) and no marks at all.
I refuse to double the size of my phone, which i bought because it was so sleek and small
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I find it hard to believe that you dropped your S3 a couple of feet, from a car and onto the concrete and didn't at least get a scuff mark?
Unless you drive hot wheels and your concrete is made of grass!
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How strong is this suppise to be? My phone took a two inch fall and the screen is pretty much gone.
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That must be some drop. My screen shattered but it was also 10 degrees outside.
I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.
droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:
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I have replaced several gorilla glass screens. They are great for scratch resistance, almost indestructible that way, but hit them on the edge, or pry up on it and snap crackle pop. I don't care what phone I have had, it gets a case that comes over the front to keep glass off table etc when face down, and I use Phantom Skinz on all my screens. Never had a problem yet, but it is fun replacing friends screens who don't like cases and screen covers ;-0.
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Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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Honestly how strong is the screen protector. Like against good hits and stuff... I usually do the field goal catch when I drop my phone, where it flies across the room... Obviously that still might be too much, but do you think it would hold up pretty good?
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I think the screen protector is pretty strong. I look at it as a thin plastic/rubbery barrier between the glass and any sharp objects that might impact the glass. I have never broken or cracked a screen myself and had some pretty good drops/punts when trying to catch with foot lol.
Scratchproof not crashproof
GG protects against scratches, that's about it. I don't believe its any more shatter resistant than other glass. I use a bumper case, which protects the edges but leaves the back largely uncovered. Best compromise I could find between protection and not adding bulk. I actually prefer it to uncovered because I always found that the GS3 was kind of slick and easy to drop without a case of any kind.
Agree
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Mine screen got scratched pretty soon after I purchased it. I was pretty disappointed. Ended up getting a ZAG and it's held up nicely.
My screen scratched from my finger nail. My wife's screen is all scratched to hell. Yet she does nothing different than she did with her Fascinate with gg1. I think the coating on gg2 much softer.
I don't like it.
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droped mine less than 18 inches but caught the corner just right and shattered. the one time i didn't get insurance:crying:
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700 phone and you didn't get insurance
I dont have insurance either but I do have one of those ebay TPU cases, seems to protect it from drops just fine
my friend's s3 hit a hardwood floor with the corner of his phone and a giant crack just appeared across his his screen
Here is a picture:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37829485#post37829485
Blue6IX said:
It actually fell out of my pocket (pants pocket - lower cargo pocket so about knee height) as I was getting it out.
Thing is, this was new years eve, and it had been sitting in my car for a number of hours. It landed on the edge of a concrete walkway, so it was uneven pressure when it hit.
And being as there was snow on the ground, it was really cold - the phone being in my car (off by the way) for those hours meant it was just as cold (and brittle) when it hit.
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There are two things on the screen in that picture - my customary piece of electrical tape over the front facing camera, and a screen protector.
The screen protector is why it's still usable. Without it, all the pieces of screen would have fallen out. The only thing that is broken, is the gorilla glass part of the screen.
It sucks trying to work through all the cracks and breakage, but because the screen protector keeps it all there and flat I can work through all that mess.
I bought another 32 gig model, so it's not the s3 I use day to day, but it does still have its role in my division of the android army.
I always use screen protectors, I don't care what claims are made about the screen. With it you have a chance to still use it in a worst case like this. Without it, this device would be relatively useless.
I'll eventually get around to buying another screen for it, but the screen protector held it together long enough for me to get another one, and now it's not such a priority on my list. Someday.
Here is a link with some pretty interesting info from Corning regarding Gorilla Glass, scratching, breaking, etc., including Gorilla Glass 3:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Corn...-Glass-3-is-not-like-most-other-glass_id38494
I bought my Asus Padfone 2 a week ago when it was just launched in Jakarta, Indonesia (which happen to be where I live). The product is so new that there isn't any accessories for Padfone 2 yet, not a cases, sleeves, not even a screen protector.
However, one of Asus representative has pointed out that the sleeve will be ready within mid-April. And as for the screen protector, he told me I don't need one since Padfone 2 is already covered with gorilla glass. He was so convinced that no matter what I'd do with my phone I wouldn't even close in hurting the screen. I need to know whether is this statement true, I want the best protection for phone.
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No thats BS. Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant, NOT scratch proof
So it means that it is still a good idea to use a screen protector?
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It scratches, my galaxy note 2 has a nice 0.7cm scratch on it
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Anggrian said:
So it means that it is still a good idea to use a screen protector?
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Screen protector for phone is definitely needed as there is no total scratch proof screen in the market right now.
Its always better to have your screen protected with any sort of screenguard.. if it gets scratched u replace that screenguard and its shiny again until it got scratched pretty badly
Take my opinion. Don't use screen protectors. They are gonna hold back the screen from showing it's complete potential ( the colors, touch sensitivity, blah blah) unless the screen protector you use is exceptionally good.
I have been using ma phone without any screen protector for more than a year now. No scratch, Noffin. ( gorilla glass can handle em)
But if you have the screen scratching against stuff like keys ( while in pocket) or somethin , consider putting one.
Or You could get a flip cover to protect it.
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It's not scratch proof. Sand is harder than it so even a single grain in your pocket can scratch your screen (as all the little edge scratches on my One X's gorilla glass screen can attest to).
On the other hand, even my keys can't scratch it.
Coming up on three years my Samsung Galaxy S' gorilla glass 1 hasn't seen a single scratch.
You won't need it if you just get used to some simple ways of using it.
Don't stuff your pockets with stuff, a bank card can lock a grain of sand between it and the phone, a pocket itself won't do that.
Don't put your phone face down on most surfaces.
Stuff like that.
I tried a screen protector, it sucked, had to rip it off, violently and with a vengeance.
I've never been particularly careful with my phone, but I have some very basic habits that probably helps.
The sides of my phone is banged up btw, I've manhandled it quite a lot, and the camera glass is far from pristine, just goes to show the side you put it down etc matters a lot.
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Coming up on three years my Samsung Galaxy S' gorilla glass 1 hasn't seen a single scratch.
You won't need it if you just get used to some simple ways of using it.
Don't stuff your pockets with stuff, a bank card can lock a grain of sand between it and the phone, a pocket itself won't do that.
Don't put your phone face down on most surfaces.
Stuff like that.
I tried a screen protector, it sucked, had to rip it off, violently and with a vengeance.
I've never been particularly careful with my phone, but I have some very basic habits that probably helps.
The sides of my phone is banged up btw, I've manhandled it quite a lot, and the camera glass is far from pristine, just goes to show the side you put it down etc matters a lot.
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+1 to this. Sand is pretty much the only (common) material that can scratch gorilla glass. I haven't used a screen protector on any of my gorilla glass equipped devices in years, and not a single one has a scratch. Granted, I'm pretty careful with my gadgets, but I keep my razr maxx in the same pocket as my keys every day without so much as a hairline scratch. Here's a good thread for some additional info on gorilla glass:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866049
So far nothing had scratched it, including two cats. But I do keep it in a wallet top type case when it's in my pocket.
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It require screen guard just to prevent scratches
Gorilla glass is meant for rough use
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It has been almost 2 years and haven't had a single scratch on my i777 'cuz I have the "screen protector" on.
I'm using kitchen shrink wrap (from Costco if anyone interest), wrap it around the phone, anytime I need to use, I just un-wrap it and when I'm done, I re-wrap it
I stuck the tape and put a cover, because it often drops the phone. I think, no GorillaGlass could not bear it.
I would not use a screen protector even if you paid me... (well, maybe, depending on HOW MUCH )
I tried it on my wife's phones and my two daughters' phones, and I was never able to place the protector without air bubbles underneath. And I cannot stand them. Even without bubbles, they lower the screen readability and clarity.
I think that protectors make sense only for people with particular ways of handling their phones. I always keep my phone in the same pocket, never put anything else there, and I never had a scratch. My wife, though, is able to scratch any phone in her handbag, even with a flip cover or a case on it, as she keeps it with keys, coins and everything else she is able to carry with her. No Gorilla Glass helped her phones, either
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It has been almost 2 years and haven't had a single scratch on my i777 'cuz I have the "screen protector" on.
I'm using kitchen shrink wrap (from Costco if anyone interest), wrap it around the phone, anytime I need to use, I just un-wrap it and when I'm done, I re-wrap it
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Kitchen wrap!?
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jerzyjerzy said:
I would not use a screen protector even if you paid me... (well, maybe, depending on HOW MUCH )
I tried it on my wife's phones and my two daughters' phones, and I was never able to place the protector without air bubbles underneath. And I cannot stand them. Even without bubbles, they lower the screen readability and clarity.
I think that protectors make sense only for people with particular ways of handling their phones. I always keep my phone in the same pocket, never put anything else there, and I never had a scratch. My wife, though, is able to scratch any phone in her handbag, even with a flip cover or a case on it, as she keeps it with keys, coins and everything else she is able to carry with her. No Gorilla Glass helped her phones, either
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Lol, thats funny.
I would put a screen protector on it. I have had a couple phones with Gorilla Glass and have scratched them. While nice resistance to scratches it still happens if your not careful.
Every phone I have ever seen with Gorilla Glass and Gorilla Glass 2 have had scratches (when not using screen protector).
I get that it is scratch resistant, but I personally never use a phone without a screen protector.
As for bubbles, I use the matte ones and never get bubbles. I have one on my Nexus 4 right now and it still looks as vibrant and awesome as ever with no bubbles or anything.
I have a tablet with a GG screen that I got used from a friend and there are a number of session scratches or it - they don't bother me too much, especially now that I've put a screen protector on it, but if it's a device I buy new I would definitely have one on from the start (like I have with my phone and others).
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Hr Kristian said:
Coming up on three years my Samsung Galaxy S' gorilla glass 1 hasn't seen a single scratch.
You won't need it if you just get used to some simple ways of using it.
Don't stuff your pockets with stuff, a bank card can lock a grain of sand between it and the phone, a pocket itself won't do that.
Don't put your phone face down on most surfaces.
Stuff like that.
I tried a screen protector, it sucked, had to rip it off, violently and with a vengeance.
I've never been particularly careful with my phone, but I have some very basic habits that probably helps.
The sides of my phone is banged up btw, I've manhandled it quite a lot, and the camera glass is far from pristine, just goes to show the side you put it down etc matters a lot.
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I don't care who says what, from what I've experienced GG1 is much more scratch proof that GG2. Like you, my SGS 1's screen which is now my back up phone, is flawless. The thing is an utter tank and I believe I'd have to really work to put a scratch on it. Yet I've had 3 other phones since with GG2 and every single one of them has gotten scratched from simply being in my pocket.
IMO, GG2 sucks.