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about to start my first root/rom

Hello group,
Wish me luck. I am about to start my first root/rom install. Going with Andromeda. This will be applied to my 5th replacement phone for the auto shut down issue. It just arrived. I am getting tired of getting replacements and waiting for a good one so that I can go to 2.2. I have read the guides. I have a couple questions that I can't find a clear answer on.
1) I already have a paid version of mybackup pro. Can that be used instead of titanium?
2) My phone is up and running on the stock 2.1. Is it normal to restore all apps, data and system settings from the 2.1 phone to the 2.2 install? Are the system setting compatible between the two?
3) I think I recall some mention of writing down some number from your original phone so that if you have to set it back to stock for warranty. I don't see that in the official instructions though. Is there such a precaution necessary?
Thanks in advance.
--pat

psloan said:
Hello group,
Wish me luck. I am about to start my first root/rom install. Going with Andromeda. This will be applied to my 5th replacement phone for the auto shut down issue. It just arrived. I am getting tired of getting replacements and waiting for a good one so that I can go to 2.2. I have read the guides. I have a couple questions that I can't find a clear answer on.
1) I already have a paid version of mybackup pro. Can that be used instead of titanium?
2) My phone is up and running on the stock 2.1. Is it normal to restore all apps, data and system settings from the 2.1 phone to the 2.2 install? Are the system setting compatible between the two?
3) I think I recall some mention of writing down some number from your original phone so that if you have to set it back to stock for warranty. I don't see that in the official instructions though. Is there such a precaution necessary?
Thanks in advance.
--pat
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1. should owrk
2.Never restore system data. Your just asking for trouble if you do.
3. Back up your efs folder from system and copy it to your pc. As roms chnage android id and imei

cool thanks for the quick response. Nubish question from your response. How do I backup the "efs" folder I don't see it using the phone to browse the files or mounting the phone via usb and browsing via the pc. Do I have to root it first?

psloan said:
cool thanks for the quick response. Nubish question from your response. How do I backup the "efs" folder I don't see it using the phone to browse the files or mounting the phone via usb and browsing via the pc. Do I have to root it first?
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Yes you will need to root it first and then you will need a files explorer that will allow you to get to the system files. I use Root Explorer my self. One of the few apps that is well worth the money

good luck with the first go at it. I just did the same the other day and must say best decision I made with this phone.

What everyone else said is good. I would also back up your contacts and write down your APN settings. Some ROMs change the APN.
Contacts:
1) Contacts > menu button > Import/Export > Export to SD Card > you will get a vcard file saved to your sd card. You should also back this up on your pc.
2) You can also sync your contacts with your gmail account. I usually take the vcard from earlier and import it into gmail.
APN:
1) Settings > Wireless and network > Mobile networks > Access Point Names > just write down the settings in case they change in the future.

read stickies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ademarne said:
read stickies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lmao! +1

ademarne said:
read stickies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Was that really necessary...?
zelendel and sircaper answered his post, then you... How about: Please read the stickies before you start customizing your phone, so you know how to deal with any problems that might arise.
2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy.

Xstop said:
Was that really necessary...?
zelendel and sircaper answered his post, then you... How about: Please read the stickies before you start customizing your phone, so you know how to deal with any problems that might arise.
2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy.
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I made a guide for them, that is why I was saying read the stickies...
Check my sig.

ademarne said:
I made a guide for them, that is why I was saying read the stickies...
Check my sig.
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Would of been easier if you just referred him to it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919816
Instead of this nonsense

You will be nothing but happy after flashing. I do not mpost much on here, just read and read, but this site is excellent in finding what you need. I ran Phoenix for a while and it was very good, but I have flashed Serendipity 5.0 with the latest Speedmod kernel and its working great. Battery life seems to have improved for me with this combination.

So did you flash?? What was the outcome? Success? Check out Ceszar's continuum theme for Andromeda, just love that along with Andromeda 2.0

I'm curious too as to how everything went for you.
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Yes i flashed. running andromeda for the past couple days. seems fine. much faster and the gps lokcs in seconds now. with 2.2 i can now use skype, flash, chrome to phone and use the power button for the camera shutter. All wins for me. I am not sure I get any more battery life out of this setup. I have been playing with it non stop, so I don't have any real world numbers on the battery life. I also learned that mybackup pro can't restore apps backed up from 2.1 to 2.2 I tried 3 times and every time the apps would fail at some point and I wold have to hard close them.
I have noticed a couple times that I have lost the data connections either on wifi or the 3g. Not sure it's the rom, hardware or just plain bad cell sites. but on reboot the connections were fine.
Over all impressed with the dev team for adromeda. They have an irc channel and there seems to be someone always there to answer my questions.
--pat

Just an update.
I rolled back to the untheamed 1.0 andromeda and then applied the DMT Dark Theme. did not like the battery meter so loaded modded circle one. Pretty happy with the look now. See the attached running launcher pro.

That looks really good.
I wish I had seen this thread before you installed that new ROM. I would have told you that stickies are for sissies.
Do it all from the seat of your pants and depend on luck. That's what I say. (j/k)
Do you see that business about restoring all system data? I tried that yesterday, I think it was. Got a good install of Paragon RC5. I think I then tried a full system data restore from TiBu. Rebooted the phone and it started back up so that it required a PIN to unlock it. I guess because I had been using that function before install of RC5. The PIN did not work. Tried this method not only once, but twice. Finally figured out how to use TiBu for real, I think. Makes me wonder if these locking schemes are worth using. I suppose they might buy you just a little bit of time in case of theft.
If you get to jonesing for something new, check out the ROM mentioned above.
Glad you're happy with your efforts!
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Glad to hear it all went well for you. And I like the look you got going there. Seems like you did great for your first time
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[Q] Backup EVERYTHING to flash new rom

Ok I've been searching for a while now and can't find a full solution. I want to flash the updated Leedroid rom to my Inspire but I don't want to lose ANYTHING. My goal is to flash the new rom and have my phone be exactly the same as before the flash, just updated. I need like a 100% guarantee. I don't want to backup anything to google contacts because it degrades the photos, and I don't want to lose any accounts or app data.
Thank
Tommy

Focustom said:
Ok I've been searching for a while now and can't find a full solution. I want to flash the updated Leedroid rom to my Inspire but I don't want to lose ANYTHING. My goal is to flash the new rom and have my phone be exactly the same as before the flash, just updated. I need like a 100% guarantee. I don't want to backup anything to google contacts because it degrades the photos, and I don't want to lose any accounts or app data.
Thank
Tommy
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try titanium backup pro from the market

Well that's what I'm talking about, I've read about Titanium and MyBackup Pro but I don't know if they backup everything in the system. Like I said I want it 100% like it was before flashing the updated rom. I appreciate the help but I need detailed help. I've very new to the Android dev. I switched from an iPhone so I'm really lost here lol

Focustom said:
Well that's what I'm talking about, I've read about Titanium and MyBackup Pro but I don't know if they backup everything in the system. Like I said I want it 100% like it was before flashing the updated rom. I appreciate the help but I need detailed help. I've very new to the Android dev. I switched from an iPhone so I'm really lost here lol
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Yes, Titanium Backup will backup everything, even system data. However, if you are switching between ROMs, you do not want to restore system data (eg. going from Sense to CM7) you will have a ton of issues.

-viperboy- said:
Yes, Titanium Backup will backup everything, even system data. However, if you are switching between ROMs, you do not want to restore system data (eg. going from Sense to CM7) you will have a ton of issues.
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Ok so I won't lose texts, call logs, favorites, settings, accounts, app data...EVERYTHING? I'm staying with Sense just simply updating to the new Leedroid from the previous version.

Titanium backup does not back up call logs, text messages etc. It can back up apps, app data and configurations, and system data. As said above, you do not want to back up system data when u are going from one rom to another. Even if its the same rom but different version. The only right way I know of to do what your asking is if the developer of the rom u are using offers incremental rom updates. That way, no data or configurations is deleted. You may be new to android...so I offer this warning to you....don't try and cut corners or invent ways of trying to accomplish something...you will either find yourself having lots of problems with your phone or end up bricking it. If it could be done, there would already be a process to do it, made by the developers on this forum.
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cavsoldier19d said:
Titanium backup does not back up call logs, text messages etc. It can back up apps, app data and configurations, and system data. As said above, you do not want to back up system data when u are going from one rom to another. Even if its the same rom but different version. The only right way I know of to do what your asking is if the developer of the rom u are using offers incremental rom updates. That way, no data or configurations is deleted. You may be new to android...so I offer this warning to you....don't try and cut corners or invent ways of trying to accomplish something...you will either find yourself having lots of problems with your phone or end up bricking it. If it could be done, there would already be a process to do it, made by the developers on this forum.
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I'm not trying to cut corners at all that's why I posted this. I keep being told what not to do but I'm still not getting the answer I need. What am I going to lose? What can I save? Using what? What is the best app/apps to get the most I can in a backup. I'm not trying to be ungrateful for the help it's just rather frustrating after searching for hours and can't get a solid answer. I hate when people are just like "no that won't work" lol offer the most info you can to help someone out. That's why these forums are here. Again I'm just annoyed a can't get a full answer lol

I need an explanation of things I cannot and things I can backup, in detail. Please.

Focustom said:
I need an explanation of things I cannot and things I can backup, in detail. Please.
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Not to be rude dude, but atleast look up Titanium Backup in the Market and read up a little bit. Do some searching and you will figure things out.

-viperboy- said:
Not to be rude dude, but atleast look up Titanium Backup in the Market and read up a little bit. Do some searching and you will figure things out.
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See that's exactly what I'm talking about lol I have looked it up this is exactly what the description says:
"The ONLY tool that can backup, restore, freeze (with Pro) your apps + data + Market links! Even protected apps! 0-click Batch/scheduled backups! PRO version has 0-click batch restores, Dropbox sync, Dalvik cleaner & MORE!"
That does explain anything at all. It's simple man if you know the info share it. If you don't have the time to write something helpful on here, I get that. But don't write something just to write a reply. I obviously need help so I don't mess things up. I'm trying to get helpful info not just someone saying "go look it up". I've tried. I keep coming up on MyBackup Pro and Titanium Backup Pro, but they don't tell me what I can't restore when I'm flashing a new rom and what I can't backup. Simply stating that it backups "data" and "settings" doesn't help me if I don't know what exactly that means. Just making a backup isn't what I'm trying to achieve.

The best app to backup IMO is titanium backup. But again, when going from one rom to the next, this backs up apps only. There is no effective way that I know of to back up your text messages, call logs etc. So the implied message is, you will loose everything that is not an app backed up by titanium backup. The main purpose of titanium backup is to back up your apps so u don't have to redownload everything. Other than that, the only other recommended backup method is nandroid backup through clockwork mod recovery. This backup is a full system image backup. So restoring through this method will put u right back to the same rom and version you were at. So in short, do a titanium backup, wipe, install your new rom, titanium backup to restore your apps, and start reconfiguring away like the rest of us do.
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cavsoldier19d said:
The best app to backup IMO is titanium backup. But again, when going from one rom to the next, this backs up apps only. There is no effective way that I know of to back up your text messages, call logs etc.
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Not correct. TiBu will back up texts and call logs. It's probable you don't know that because you don't restore system data. I've never had a problem doing that, but I guess everyone has a different experience.

cavsoldier19d said:
The best app to backup IMO is titanium backup. But again, when going from one rom to the next, this backs up apps only. There is no effective way that I know of to back up your text messages, call logs etc. So the implied message is, you will loose everything that is not an app backed up by titanium backup. The main purpose of titanium backup is to back up your apps so u don't have to redownload everything. Other than that, the only other recommended backup method is nandroid backup through clockwork mod recovery. This backup is a full system image backup. So restoring through this method will put u right back to the same rom and version you were at. So in short, do a titanium backup, wipe, install your new rom, titanium backup to restore your apps, and start reconfiguring away like the rest of us do.
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Thank you. So those apps that say they backup texts and what not don't work? Man I hate having to start over. What should I do about my contacts? I don't have them linked to Google because of my photos. This was a crappy part of jailbreaking the iPhone see I knew the ins and outs of the jailbreaking world but rooting now that's a whole new beast.

BillTheCat said:
Not correct. TiBu will back up texts and call logs. It's probable you don't know that because you don't restore system data. I've never had a problem doing that, but I guess everyone has a different experience.
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Wait so you haven't had problems switching roms and restoring system data? What rom to what rom?

I understand that not finding the answer you seek in its entirety can be a bit troubling. But in my humble opinion, trial and error is part of this never ending adventure we call Android OS.
As stated above, Titanium Backup will probably be your best bet to get "most" of the backup you seek.
The help given here at XDA is a privilege, not a right. Let us remember that.
EdIT: sorry, I quit smoking yesterday .. can you tell?! Lol
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CM7 | Cattleprod 4.3.1 - 1.8

Exactly. Android is a completely different animal than iPhone. Android is built on Linux. So its going to be completely different. Not sure about the apps that claim to backup texts...never heard anybody use that before and I've had no need for it. I had the same issue with contacts but I just found it easier to go ahead and sync Google contacts. Because when you enter the world of flashing, that's one less thing you have to worry about backing up and restoring...because its stored online. And as soon as you install your new rom, and then sign in to your Google account, it will automatically download your contacts to your new rom. And whenever you edit contacts, it automatically syncs in real-time.
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ThE SkEpTiK said:
I understand that not finding the answer you seek in its entirety can be a bit troubling. But in my humble opinion, trial and error is part of this never ending adventure we call Android OS.
As stated above, Titanium Backup will probably be your best bet to get "most" of the backup you seek.
The help given here at XDA is a privilege, not a right. Let us remember that.
xda Premium | Inspire |
CM7 | Cattleprod 4.3.1 - 1.8
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Dude really? This is a forum that is dedicated to helping people. And I just read your edit, tough crap! Don't be a jerk

cavsoldier19d said:
Exactly. Android is a completely different animal than iPhone. Android is built on Linux. So its going to be completely different. Not sure about the apps that claim to backup texts...never heard anybody use that before and I've had no need for it. I had the same issue with contacts but I just found it easier to go ahead and sync Google contacts. Because when you enter the world of flashing, that's one less thing you have to worry about backing up and restoring...because its stored online. And as soon as you install your new rom, and then sign in to your Google account, it will automatically download your contacts to your new rom. And whenever you edit contacts, it automatically syncs in real-time.
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Grr you suck lol I want nice looking photos. That's something else we need to figure out. Or is it impossible because Google just sucks with that right now? lol

That's a valid point. It frustrates me too. But ultimately, when you start flashing, you want to find a way to streamline the process to what works best for you. And like said earlier, the android experience is trial and error. But again, that doesn't include doing things that's likely going to eff up your phone...unless you simply don't care about turning your phone into a really expensive paper weight. Then you will be that Guy that's posting on the forum....help! I messed up my phone.
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cavsoldier19d said:
That's a valid point. It frustrates me too. But ultimately, when you start flashing, you want to find a way to streamline the process to what works best for you. And like said earlier, the android experience is trial and error. But again, that doesn't include doing things that's likely going to eff up your phone...unless you simply don't care about turning your phone into a really expensive paper weight. Then you will be that Guy that's posting on the forum....help! I messed up my phone.
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Lol exactly I'd rather ask for help and seem like a newb, which I am, then be the one crying after I messed things up and it's too late. So ANYTHING I've downloaded including the amazon app store, which was a PITA to get on the phone, will be saved using Tbackup right? And that's it. Photos and all that good stuff are saved to the SD card and what not I just need to flash the new rom and then put my email accounts and I'm good to go right?

Safe bloat removal list 8/29/2011

Here is a complete list of bloatware that is 100% safe to remove.
WARNING: YOU MUST HAVE S-OFF AND PERM ROOT IN ORDER TO WRITE TO THE SYSTEM FOLDER. IF YOU DON'T THEN IT WILL NOT WORK.
Dock panel
T-Mobile Mall
Bejeweled 2
Adobe reader
My account
Android notes
Polaris office
Qik
Voice search
Zinio reader
Desktop pointer
ECID
Jetcet print
Jetcet resources
Magic wallpapers
Mobile backup
Si home
Street
Maps
Gmail
YouTube
Google search
Swype
Visualization wallpapers
T-Mobile carbon device
Slacker radio
Any themes you dislike
Doubletwist
T-Mobile TV
I have tested and confirmed that these are safe to remove. I also did multiple factory reses with zero issues. Now go out and remove all that bloatware.
I am not responsible for anything that you choose to do to your device. This is just a guide nothing more. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

I am just dumb founded by the amount of bull sh*t in the stock Rom. The amount of bloatware in this should be against the law. I will tell you this much. Once i removed this junk my phone is much snappier. Have fun with it guys. Always do a nandroid before removing anything.
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I'd like to add SWM-C to the list. I have no idea what it does, but I didn't need it running, so I trashed it.
You can also add "Tmobile Name ID" to the list if you don't use or want T-Mobile's for-pay Caller ID service.

ECID.apk is T-Mobile name id.
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How do I remove these app
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Root explorer, ES File Mgr, or System app remover. All apps in the Android market.
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While we're at it, you can look Here to see some others that have been found to be safe to remove.
I personally keep some of the ones on both of these threads, but that doesn't mean they can't be removed.
Also, i've removed the genius app and had no troubles with the system running fine.
Can someone teach me how to remove latitude and car home, while keeping maps?

Car home is dockpanel.apk.
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Latitude is Maps.apk.
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This list I made does not affect the full functionality of the stock ROM. You can remove other stuff BUT you WILL get FCs to vital system files. Stick with this list. I'm much more conservative then that guy you linked me to. But I will add dockpanel.apk. thanx
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Undeadk9 said:
Car home is dockpanel.apk.
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Latitude is Maps.apk.
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Much appreciated. Wasn't sure what dockpanel was, and hadn't gotten to axing that one yet in testing.
I guess that means i'm stuck with latitude, since I need Google Maps, but since carhome isn't "supposed" to work with our device according to Google, once it's gone it's toast.
I mentioned earlier that I un-installed the Genius app, tossing carhome gets rid of the rest of that silly talk stuff I can't stand. It's a danged touch device for a reason...lol.
I realize different things work for different people - my buddy loves the talking to it to make it do stuff, just not my thing.
But I need Maps because the feature of emailing places to people has become invaluable in a business sense for me.
We all use Maps, and as people need to be places we just email locations back and forth - someone simply clicks the link in their email and it plots it on the map, and then Navigation automatically computes driving directions.
Auto-sync with email notifies of the new location ready to be input, and you can share the location right from starting in the Maps app itself. When a person gets a new location to go to, they send that and their current to payroll - and their mileage is logged and compensation is computed before they even get to where they are going.
Score a point for Google making my work life much, much easier, and streamlining taxes and payroll.
Edit - i'm the guy I linked you to - another lol.
That thread was a group effort we undertook here to find out what all you could get rid of and still have the system run right. On my working install I use in my day-to-day on the phone, I have a lot of the apps I mentioned were safe to remove in the thread I linked to.
When we first got root on these phones, the day revolutionary was released, it was an all-out delete-fest to figure out what could be safely removed. Some people went ahead and froze things, others went ahead and just uninstalled them. By comparing notes and tinkering with it, we figured out most of what we could toss safely.
Like I said, I use some of the things mentioned to be deleted - but the focus of the thread was what could be removed, and not what personal preferences were.
When i'm doing all my GPS / A-GPS testing, for instance, I restore to my original CWM backup I made right after root and do all my testing with all the stock apps installed. I don't want to contaminate any of the tests by running a custom tweaked install, the only thing i'm trying to tweak in that instance is the GPS stuff i'm working with at the moment. I'm also trying to replicate the environment someone will be in out-of-the-box (or as close as can be since the phone is rooted with CWM installed).
Don't think that I run my phone on the daily with nothing on it - that would be silly and kinda pointless to have a smart phone that didn't do anything. But in the interest of discovery, you kinda have to go beyond what you're happy with to figure it all out. (or at least that makes the most sense to me)
Having tested software for a living for a while...just the habits I got into. Another reason why I go so overboard on backups. You should see all the CWM backups I have stored of this phone in different states.
Just wanted to clear up any confusion, in case you thought I was crazy about trying to rip everything out of the phone indiscriminately - there is a method to the madness (...or is it a madness to the method? Can never tell... )
The things listed that you can delete in the other thread are a pick-and-choose option, you don't have to remove them all.

Using ES File Explorer...
Can't seem to delete anything .... says that it can't be deleted.
Do we need to be S-Off first?
If so, how do we S-Off for Mac users?
There isn't too much clear detailed info for Mac users...frustrating..

iunlock said:
Using ES File Explorer...
Can't seem to delete anything .... says that it can't be deleted.
Do we need to be S-Off first?
If so, how do we S-Off for Mac users?
There isn't too much clear detailed info for Mac users...frustrating..
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There is no Mac version of the Revolutionary S-OFF method. You either have to (A) install Linux, configure it properly and run the Linux version of Revolutionary or (B) install Windows, configure it properly and run the Windows version of Revolutionary.
Your only other option is to wait patiently for HTC to provide a bootloader unlocker for this device which may or may not ever happen. They've released it for the T-Mobile Sensation, but that's a pure HTC phone and not a T-Mobile-branded myTouch model.
I've used Revolutionary on Windows and Linux and both methods are fairly straightforward. You just need to know what you're doing -- if you don't, you probably shouldn't be trying to attain S-OFF in the first place. Just use the permanent temp-root.

maps keeps automatically running in the background of my gf's phone. Is there anyway to stop it from autostarting? I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it as noted in another post elsewhere in this forum.
Thanks.

dockpanel.apk is htcs version of Google's car home. And yes Google's car home works fine on our device. I'm running it with no major issues. I updated op accordingly.
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Yes go into settings......applications......running services........find maps.apk.......press it.........then press force stop.......then press clear data. You will need to do this each time with Google maps. It is a battery leech if it runs in the background. Hope this helps
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chrispaw said:
maps keeps automatically running in the background of my gf's phone. Is there anyway to stop it from autostarting? I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it as noted in another post elsewhere in this forum.
Thanks.
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Undeadk9 said:
Yes go into settings......applications......running services........find maps.apk.......press it.........then press force stop.......then press clear data. You will need to do this each time with Google maps. It is a battery leech if it runs in the background. Hope this helps
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In another thread here, someone also found out that by un-installing the stock Google maps version, then re-downloading it from the market, you solve the problem of it running in the background all the time. Check the battery threads to find the specific posting, I forget which one it was in.
Glad to see we are coming up with all the little details here, everyone has a different approach to solving the problems we come across on this phone. Everyone sharing what they know here is starting to paint a pretty good picture of the whole situation - good job everyone!
(Yep, I know car home works on the device, but once you remove it you won't be able to re-download it from the market because Google has it listed as not working for this phone, so it will block the download - thanks for confirming from another phone that it is indeed working though.)

Exactly.
I'm still trying to break this phone wide open.
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Blue6IX said:
In another thread here, someone also found out that by un-installing the stock Google maps version, then re-downloading it from the market, you solve the problem of it running in the background all the time. Check the battery threads to find the specific posting, I forget which one it was in.
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I tried that, but I'll try it again, can't hurt. Will report back.

Does anyone know what is DoubleshotZipgroup or DoubleshotAndroidZipgroup? Is it safe to remove?

[Q] Would post in Developers Forums but need at least 10 Posts.....

I did a search and could not readily find the answer......
Is Gapps.zip also required with DJ ICS+ V1.0.3 also?
I root and upgraded my Sam Tab 10.1. It required Gapps.zip. Also it also auto downloaded all of the apps from my Marketplace library. On the Skyrocket each apps has to be re-downloaded. Would installing Gapps.zip, if even possible on the Skyrocket, add any missing baseline apps and do the auto download of the library?
TIA,
Rob

Nope you don't need gapps
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA App

So I guess I have to down load each individually....
Rob

rtg222 said:
So I guess I have to down load each individually....
Rob
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That's why programs like titanium backup exist.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777

The funny thing is that I did not need to use Titanium on the Tab 10.1. Which was very cool.......

rtg222 said:
The funny thing is that I did not need to use Titanium on the Tab 10.1. Which was very cool.......
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i have never had the google backup/restore work properly unless running an AOSP/CM7 rom....on any of my devices. never even bothered with the tab because i have Titanium Backup, and i get all my game saves and settings back...

Thanks!
Rob

Pirateghost said:
i have never had the google backup/restore work properly unless running an AOSP/CM7 rom....on any of my devices. never even bothered with the tab because i have Titanium Backup, and i get all my game saves and settings back...
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same thing, google wouldnt restore anything I had unless I was using AOSP or something cm7.

So been using DJ ICS+ V1.0.3 for a while now. The aesthetics are excellent and it appears to be very stable. So I have to say the folks that worked on this did a really good job. However, benchmarking this load shows about a 20% decrease in performance compared to a stock 2.3.5, even when clocked at 1.7Ghz versus the stock 1.5Ghz.
I could be doing something error but the load works very well. Perhaps FauxClock is not working correctly.
The numbers from AnTuTu are:
Stock 2.3.5 - 6053
DJ ICS+ V1.0.3(2.3.6) - 4834
This is apparently not a full ICS build which is fine it has a good look and feel but it is at the expense of some performance.
So before the flames start, I am not complaining. Just merely pointing out some fact for anyone looking to some this or the new to be updates load(rom).
I would have posted this in the development forum but still don't have 10 posts.....
FWIW,
Rob

rtg222 said:
I did a search and could not readily find the answer......
Is Gapps.zip also required with DJ ICS+ V1.0.3 also?
I root and upgraded my Sam Tab 10.1. It required Gapps.zip. Also it also auto downloaded all of the apps from my Marketplace library. On the Skyrocket each apps has to be re-downloaded. Would installing Gapps.zip, if even possible on the Skyrocket, add any missing baseline apps and do the auto download of the library?
TIA,
Rob
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Your thread would have been deleted if your question had been posted at the development forums. That is why we have Q&A forums. This is the right place to ask you questions.
Please familiarize yourself with the XDA Forum Rules.
Good you didn't have 10 posts to make your question there yet, didn't you

Ok, being part of several forums that rule is certainly not intuitive.
So since this is the correct forum post how about a response?
Seems like the folks creating the ROM would be interested in the feedback and be best to provide some insight. Don't seem to be getting it here.....
Or did I miss the response?
Also, I read the rules and I did not see anything that would suggest that this post in the Developers Forums would have been removed. Do the rules change as the moderators deem fit???????

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Ok, being part of several forums that rule is certainly not intuitive.
So since this is the correct forum post how about a response?
Seems like the folks creating the ROM would be interested in the feedback and be best to provide some insight. Don't seem to be getting it here.....
Or did I miss the response?
Also, I read the rules and I did not see anything that would suggest that this post in the Developers Forums would have been removed. Do the rules change as the moderators deem fit???????
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it has nothing to do with the ROM. it is a Touchwiz based rom and thus you will have the exact same issues as any other touchwiz based rom when it comes to your apps....

I was thinking of installing the gapps for the same reason. Not so much the apps for me, but on my AOSP phones/roms google saved all my wifi passwords that alone is worth checking out because I have a lot that are a pain in the ass to enter on a phone.

eagercrow said:
I was thinking of installing the gapps for the same reason. Not so much the apps for me, but on my AOSP phones/roms google saved all my wifi passwords that alone is worth checking out because I have a lot that are a pain in the ass to enter on a phone.
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but GAPPS are the same versions of the apps that are already included in the rom...
this is a TOUCHWIZ issue, until you remove Samsungs crap UI, it will remain an issue
installing GAPPS from CM will yield no benefit.....

Pirateghost said:
but GAPPS are the same versions of the apps that are already included in the rom...
this is a TOUCHWIZ issue, until you remove Samsungs crap UI, it will remain an issue
installing GAPPS from CM will yield no benefit.....
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Didn't know this. Thanks! I recently fired up my old Nexus S 4G and it was nice that everything just worked, loaded, and connected after I unput my google account info. Every android phone should do this.

[Q] Backing up data before unlocking bootloader?

Hi Guys,
I have been considering it form a long, long time and I have finally decided to go root! (If for you that is nothing new, for me it is!) I believe I have read enough to try it, besides who have learnt only form reading? Now to the question - I have been thinking how would I be able to preserve the user data since it should delete all of it. I know that google automatically backs up my application data, but how reliable is that? What is your experience with the service? Also, I have applications that are form another store and I believe that Google won't back them up. I was thinking about using Helium or the adb backup command. What's your opinion on that?
Thanks

ivan.panchev said:
Hi Guys,
I have been considering it form a long, long time and I have finally decided to go root! (If for you that is nothing new, for me it is!) I believe I have read enough to try it, besides who have learnt only form reading? Now to the question - I have been thinking how would I be able to preserve the user data since it should delete all of it. I know that google automatically backs up my application data, but how reliable is that? What is your experience with the service? Also, I have applications that are form another store and I believe that Google won't back them up. I was thinking about using Helium or the adb backup command. What's your opinion on that?
Thanks
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Helium is essentially just a graphical interface for adb backup.

Elluel said:
Helium is essentially just a graphical interface for adb backup.
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Oh, I didn't know that. So you suggest going with either of them and everything should be okay?

ivan.panchev said:
Oh, I didn't know that. So you suggest going with either of them and everything should be okay?
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The end result of either of them will be the exact same, as Helium just uses adb backup.

And how about contacts? Should I, at least, rely on Google for that? Or should I do this manually? And since I have pictures attached to my contacts, would they back up, too?

ivan.panchev said:
And how about contacts? Should I, at least, rely on Google for that? Or should I do this manually? And since I have pictures attached to my contacts, would they back up, too?
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Check here: https://contacts.google.com/preview/all
Your Contacts app will also allow you to export contacts (but this exports pictures as really low-res) to your internal storage.

Elluel said:
Check here: https://contacts.google.com/preview/all
Your Contacts app will also allow you to export contacts (but this exports pictures as really low-res) to your internal storage.
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Thanks for the nice pieces of advice! Whenever I have time, I will try rooting and I will post the my experience.