KitKat dialer on custom ROMs? - General Questions and Answers

I'm on a Galaxy Nexus and love my stock Android, but I'm looking at upgrading to the G2. I want to install a custom ROM on it like PA or CM, but I've never done that and don't have much knowledge as to what works on custom ROMs. I know that Google is moving more things closed-source, so I'm wondering when the 4.4 custom ROMs come out, will they have the new 4.4 dialer with Google search built in? Or will it just be the regular dialer like on my gnex with 4.3?
Thanks!

you will have kitkat dialer and everything what you see in kitkat, but the hotword option (ok google) only in a few roms

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[Q] Confused about 4.3 update

I would like to put KitKat on my phone and I have not done the OTA 4.3 update, so my baseband has not been updated. Whenever I try to figure out how to put KitKat on my phone, I find threads that say something like the following.
Don't update to 4.3 or you'll never get a custom boot image
OK, we figured out how to root 4.3, but you still shouldn't do it
All KITKAT roms are based on AOSP or their derivitives, which you need to update to 4.3 to get
But don't update to 4.3 because it isn't worth it, I mean, the camera sucks on AOSP
Here is a list of 25 KITKAT roms, each more awesome than the last!
Here is a 4.3 update without the baseband, if you haven't updated, use this, it is the best of both worlds
We wont be updating the above rom, because we are so excited about these KITKAT roms!
Hey I just updated to AOSP (CM, AOKP, etc) KITKAT and it is lame, how do I get TW back?
Does that sound about right? If I want KITKAT I should just stop wanting KITKAT and that will solve all my problems?
If you take the 4.3 update you will be stuck on 4.3 (or until Verizon decides to upgrade). It can be rooted and now you can flash other 4.3 ROMs with safestrap, but you will never be able to run a custom recovery/kernel. So even if you wanted to try AOSP you wouldn't be able to. I don't know who told you you have to upgrade to 4.3 to try AOSP but that is completely off base, in fact it's the complete opposite!
What are you currently running? Is your bootloader unlocked? If you are curious about AOSP I would definitely give it a try. In my experience TW ROMS tend to be more stable and have every bit of hardware working (camera, bluetooth, etc). AOSP ROMS are quicker, smoother, have newer features and are more easily customized. It's really a matter of preference.
If you really want to try KK and be on the bleeding edge you should. Kit Kat ROMs run very well on this phone. If something like a 100% working camera or bluetooth is extremely important to you I would stay on TW. However, devs are constantly working on the ROMs and working out these kinks.
BattsNotIncld said:
If you take the 4.3 update you will be stuck on 4.3 (or until Verizon decides to upgrade). It can be rooted and now you can flash other 4.3 ROMs with safestrap, but you will never be able to run a custom recovery/kernel. So even if you wanted to try AOSP you wouldn't be able to. I don't know who told you you have to upgrade to 4.3 to try AOSP but that is completely off base, in fact it's the complete opposite!
What are you currently running? Is your bootloader unlocked? If you are curious about AOSP I would definitely give it a try. In my experience TW ROMS tend to be more stable and have every bit of hardware working (camera, bluetooth, etc). AOSP ROMS are quicker, smoother, have newer features and are more easily customized. It's really a matter of preference.
If you really want to try KK and be on the bleeding edge you should. Kit Kat ROMs run very well on this phone. If something like a 100% working camera or bluetooth is extremely important to you I would stay on TW. However, devs are constantly working on the ROMs and working out these kinks.
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OK, thanks for the info.
How do I know which baseband a rom is for? I found the TouchWiz 4.3 Download List. Does that basically mean that, if it isn't on that list, it is probably for the old baseband?
I tried flashing some Gummy nightlies and Carbon - both failed. On TWRP, the only message I get is "install failed"
I know troubleshooting that is a different thread, but I'm not sure where to start to figure it out.
ragendem said:
OK, thanks for the info.
How do I know which baseband a rom is for? I found the TouchWiz 4.3 Download List. Does that basically mean that, if it isn't on that list, it is probably for the old baseband?
I tried flashing some Gummy nightlies and Carbon - both failed. On TWRP, the only message I get is "install failed"
I know troubleshooting that is a different thread, but I'm not sure where to start to figure it out.
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Update your recovery.
That thread is what will work on the Verizon 4.3 update. You're fine flashing anything because you never took it, just follow the directions in each rom thread. You could flash those roms as well.
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[Q] Cleanest Moto G AOSP ROM?

Hello, everyone!
Right now I'm running Tweaky One ROM without practically any mods, because I prefer to use the Xposed Framework to personalize my Android.
Now, I would really, really like to try the kernels available. But most of them are made only for AOSP ROMs. But I don't want to run CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android or any other modified AOSP ROM. I like Tweaky One ROM because how clean it is, but it based on stock ROM.
So, is there are a "clean" AOSP ROM for our Moto G?
Thanks for your help!
Honestly, CyanogenMod is cleaner than the stock ROM. Also, CM+ART runtime= Win. (Art breaks xposed though)
Obviously the Google Play Edition variant of stock firmware IS and always will be the cleanest
Thanks for the answers!
I like CM, but I really want to use some of the features on Gravity Box. And because both it and CM have features that overlap, I think it will be having more than I want on my cellphone.
And the strange thing with GPE is that the custom kernels won't work with it, as it seems to count as a "stock" ROM rather than a "AOSP" ROM.
Any other suggestions?
You could use Faux123 kernel on stock
PanchoPonceN said:
Hello, everyone!
Right now I'm running Tweaky One ROM without practically any mods, because I prefer to use the Xposed Framework to personalize my Android.
Now, I would really, really like to try the kernels available. But most of them are made only for AOSP ROMs. But I don't want to run CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android or any other modified AOSP ROM. I like Tweaky One ROM because how clean it is, but it based on stock ROM.
So, is there are a "clean" AOSP ROM for our Moto G?
Thanks for your help!
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I've tried a lot of different custom roms and always come back to the stock with a custom kernel, it is the best imo

[POLL] Stock with Xposed vs custom ROM

I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules. I was just wondering what everyone else prefers on their Note 3... Stock ROM with Xposed, or a custom ROM?
I have been using Slimkat on my Note 3 since I bought it. This week I might try out the stock ROM with Xposed to compare.
victorbrca said:
I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules. I was just wondering what everyone else prefers on their Note 3... Stock ROM with Xposed, or a custom ROM?
I have been using Slimkat on my Note 3 since I bought it. This week I might try out the stock ROM with Xposed to compare.
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I prefer Stock ROM with Xposed.
I understand why others love custom ROM but I don't need it
RandyBoyz92 said:
I prefer Stock ROM with Xposed.
I understand why others love custom ROM but I don't need it
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yes also
Same here, mostly running alexandr's ROM with lean kernel. Works wonders. But I can't understand why people buy this phone and flash aosp roms that turn the spen into a simple stick.
one of android best features to me ... is having a custom rom
but lately they all feel like stock with exposed enabled .... im still searching for a good rom to use everyday
rooted X-Note 3 knox 0X0
Stock rom with xpose especially Wanamp:good:
Tested lots of ROMs, if not all, that are available for the Nope 3. AOSP, TW based...
Best look, performance & speed - AOSP cannot be beaten here. And even if some FCs happened until I setup an AOSP, after that there's no hiccups, even on nightlies. Fire up ART runtime, and the speed gets to disgusting levels, but it's like a car, the faster you go, the more likely the crash.
Pure stock TW is ugly as hell, but coming from Samsung themselves, it's stable and everything works. And there ARE people who use the S-Pen every day. o.o
Also, it's probably the fact that I can't properly set up the kernel on AOSP, because the ugly slow TW gets me more battery life than AOSP. And I go tinkering with the kernel, and USB stops working, FCs, and other s**t. :/ I need to learn more on the topic, probably...
Currently, using Audax ROM with stock kernel.
make my own custom since i don't really use some of the function avail on other custom.
i vote for custom rom
when i am in stock note 3 the ported s5 apps doesnt work thats why i chose s5 ported roms as the note 3 dont get s5 apps or even the s5 uI samsung fault they dont care about there fans new phone produce throw your phone away cause you well get worse update - as i know 4.3 was better than 4.4.2 / 1-call record working without root - 2- camera performance better - 3- white keyboard - 4-not draining battery fast and ... a lot of things i may forget it dont forget the last update which introduce knox 2.0 which make towel-root useless - so tell me reasons not be in custom rom or you just stock with useless phone / i just losing faith with samsung update cause i know every update are getting even worse
I like using stock-based custom ROM with Xposed.
Someguyfromhell said:
I like using stock-based custom ROM with Xposed.
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+1
Stock better than custom
victorbrca said:
I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules. I was just wondering what everyone else prefers on their Note 3... Stock ROM with Xposed, or a custom ROM?
I have been using Slimkat on my Note 3 since I bought it. This week I might try out the stock ROM with Xposed to compare.
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Thank you for the subject.
Personally, I prefer Stock because it's official and custom rom does not give you a big advantage over the original with Xposed,except with the custom I can not activate screen mirroring.
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I like using stock-based custom ROM with Xposed.
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Me too! :laugh:

best or most prefered rom nowdays?

Hey im still running Android 4.4.2 CleanRom and its been a while since ive been around. I feel a bit outdate and was wondering what i should upgrade to. Not looking to do nightly's as i do not have the time, just looking for something new and stable. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Cam
camf3xu said:
Hey im still running Android 4.4.2 CleanRom and its been a while since ive been around. I feel a bit outdate and was wondering what i should upgrade to. Not looking to do nightly's as i do not have the time, just looking for something new and stable. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Cam
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Hi, here on xda we dont compare roms, sorry. its just taboo of the worst kind. Also please post questions in the question and answers portion of the forum, thanks and cheers.
I'll go ahead and reply with respect to the split between KitKat and Lollipop. You'll note a bunch of Lollipop-based ROMs appearing. Some have chosen to flash those, to be on the cutting edge. However, the Xposed Framework - one of the most useful customization tooks in the Android world - has not been updated to work with the "ART" (Android Run Time) and instead is only still compatible with Dalvik-based system. The developer of Xposed has indicated that he may work on updating XPosed at some point, but there is no firm commitment or timeline.
I personally will not be upgrading to Lollipop as I find that the tweaks made available by the Xposed Framework and the plethora of modules built for it, are simply too important me to lose by upgrading to what isn't all that radically different of an Android update.
But to each his own. Thought I'd give you a bit of the background.
P.S. Anything by Santod is quality work (NuSenseSix, UnSenseSix, etc). He really knows Android.
Nothing beats stock as far as stability. For newest, well, the newest official software is stock as well until VZW releases Lollipop.
Sacred cows make extra tasty steaks. That said, I'll make recommendations. I think Fluent is as reliable as the stock 4.4.4 and more so than some of the more radically tweaked 4.4.4 ROMs out there built from non-Verizon sources. NuSense is solid as well, but hasn't been updated in a while, is minimally modified, and is based on the oldest of the lollipop releases. if 4.4.4 is all you want, Clean ROM 3.0 was a solid runner for me.
If you can do your own mods then I would go with Lollipop as you don't need xposed if your looking for stable stick to 4.4.4 for now.. Make sure you upgrade your firmware before if you haven't as you r still on 4.4.2 ROM I'm taking a guess your haven't updated firmware.
Tigerstown said:
If you can do your own mods then I would go with Lollipop as you don't need xposed if your looking for stable stick to 4.4.4 for now.. Make sure you upgrade your firmware before if you haven't as you r still on 4.4.2 ROM I'm taking a guess your haven't updated firmware.
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What do you mean by doing your own mods? Short of coding them, I'm not sure how one would go about getting Samsung Milk to work, or cleaning up the Notification menu, or a bunch of other things that just aren't commonly built into customized ROMs. If you do know of a way to get such things working in Lollipop, do let me know - I'd then be able to make the switch!
godhamba said:
What do you mean by doing your own mods? Short of coding them, I'm not sure how one would go about getting Samsung Milk to work, or cleaning up the Notification menu, or a bunch of other things that just aren't commonly built into customized ROMs. If you do know of a way to get such things working in Lollipop, do let me know - I'd then be able to make the switch!
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I was just saying if you know how to decompile apks an make code changes an recompile your make your own mods.

Just a stock deodexed rom?

I've been searching through the S6 forums and haven't come across what I'm looking for and I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
I am currently using a Sprint Galaxy S6 and running an outdated custom rom ("Ramified OH1" and UniKernel v8), however this was the only option at the time to get a deodexed rom to run Xposed. What I'd like to do at this point is revert my phone to a stock rom based on the latest official release and have it deodexed so Xposed will still work. (I'd also like to try my hand at theming eventually)
My trouble is, all I can find is a handful of custom roms with mods I don't care for (I don't see why anyone would want a centered clock or this 3minit mod...I don't find either appealing) and a few semi-stock roms that don't match my current firmware version, so I don't even know what's safe to flash at this point.
In some ways, I'd also be satisfied if there was an AOSP or similar rom that would work on the S6, although I'd rather not lose the quicksettings bar that is part of TouchWiz roms. (At this point, the quicksettings bar is the only TouchWiz feature I care about, so I'd be happy with raw Android so that more Xposed mods could work)
I'd appreciate any suggestions or help that the community can offer on this issue.
At the very least, if anyone is familiar with theming an S6 nearly-stock rom, I'd appreciate the help to make some changes to some elements of my current rom to get a style I might like better.

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