I would like to put KitKat on my phone and I have not done the OTA 4.3 update, so my baseband has not been updated. Whenever I try to figure out how to put KitKat on my phone, I find threads that say something like the following.
Don't update to 4.3 or you'll never get a custom boot image
OK, we figured out how to root 4.3, but you still shouldn't do it
All KITKAT roms are based on AOSP or their derivitives, which you need to update to 4.3 to get
But don't update to 4.3 because it isn't worth it, I mean, the camera sucks on AOSP
Here is a list of 25 KITKAT roms, each more awesome than the last!
Here is a 4.3 update without the baseband, if you haven't updated, use this, it is the best of both worlds
We wont be updating the above rom, because we are so excited about these KITKAT roms!
Hey I just updated to AOSP (CM, AOKP, etc) KITKAT and it is lame, how do I get TW back?
Does that sound about right? If I want KITKAT I should just stop wanting KITKAT and that will solve all my problems?
If you take the 4.3 update you will be stuck on 4.3 (or until Verizon decides to upgrade). It can be rooted and now you can flash other 4.3 ROMs with safestrap, but you will never be able to run a custom recovery/kernel. So even if you wanted to try AOSP you wouldn't be able to. I don't know who told you you have to upgrade to 4.3 to try AOSP but that is completely off base, in fact it's the complete opposite!
What are you currently running? Is your bootloader unlocked? If you are curious about AOSP I would definitely give it a try. In my experience TW ROMS tend to be more stable and have every bit of hardware working (camera, bluetooth, etc). AOSP ROMS are quicker, smoother, have newer features and are more easily customized. It's really a matter of preference.
If you really want to try KK and be on the bleeding edge you should. Kit Kat ROMs run very well on this phone. If something like a 100% working camera or bluetooth is extremely important to you I would stay on TW. However, devs are constantly working on the ROMs and working out these kinks.
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If you take the 4.3 update you will be stuck on 4.3 (or until Verizon decides to upgrade). It can be rooted and now you can flash other 4.3 ROMs with safestrap, but you will never be able to run a custom recovery/kernel. So even if you wanted to try AOSP you wouldn't be able to. I don't know who told you you have to upgrade to 4.3 to try AOSP but that is completely off base, in fact it's the complete opposite!
What are you currently running? Is your bootloader unlocked? If you are curious about AOSP I would definitely give it a try. In my experience TW ROMS tend to be more stable and have every bit of hardware working (camera, bluetooth, etc). AOSP ROMS are quicker, smoother, have newer features and are more easily customized. It's really a matter of preference.
If you really want to try KK and be on the bleeding edge you should. Kit Kat ROMs run very well on this phone. If something like a 100% working camera or bluetooth is extremely important to you I would stay on TW. However, devs are constantly working on the ROMs and working out these kinks.
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OK, thanks for the info.
How do I know which baseband a rom is for? I found the TouchWiz 4.3 Download List. Does that basically mean that, if it isn't on that list, it is probably for the old baseband?
I tried flashing some Gummy nightlies and Carbon - both failed. On TWRP, the only message I get is "install failed"
I know troubleshooting that is a different thread, but I'm not sure where to start to figure it out.
ragendem said:
OK, thanks for the info.
How do I know which baseband a rom is for? I found the TouchWiz 4.3 Download List. Does that basically mean that, if it isn't on that list, it is probably for the old baseband?
I tried flashing some Gummy nightlies and Carbon - both failed. On TWRP, the only message I get is "install failed"
I know troubleshooting that is a different thread, but I'm not sure where to start to figure it out.
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Update your recovery.
That thread is what will work on the Verizon 4.3 update. You're fine flashing anything because you never took it, just follow the directions in each rom thread. You could flash those roms as well.
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I got my new black verizon s3 yesterday and i love it, buttery smooth. I was coming from a HTC Thunderbolt. I had rooted my thunderbolt, however since rooting that phone, i noticed that data connectivity didnt seem to be as stable as the non rooted version of that phone.
Here is my question, do you guys recommend rooting this S3 phone? Has it effected the data connectivity (dropped signals, etc)? Some advice and direction for this new S3 user would be helpful from some of you all who have been S3 users for a while. Thank you!
I would recommend rooting since there is a lot of support for the device. Data should be fine but there have been some problems either user related mistakes or bugs in a ROM. Those problems are fixable. Most of the ROMs are stable even the 4.2 ROMs.
i rooted and i think its worth it. it is easy to do and pretty low risk. I did mainly because i wanted to under clock and get better battery life. I haven't noticed any issues regarding loss of data or anything. i run into some issues at times because i try different kernals and roms that are not 100% in their stable phase. But the act of rooting itself isn't going to cause you any issues.
thanks guys, i am going to root the phone tonight after work. i browsed thru the rooting instructions for the jellybean update software (which i got when i activated my phone). I just didnt want to run into unstable data connections like i had with my thunderbolt.
Can you guys recommend any good 4.1 Roms as well as 4.2 roms? Also what is the difference between android 4.1 & 4.2?
It depends on the ROM as all 4.2 ROMs as of now are AOSP ROMs while the 4.1 ROMs are either TW based or AOSP based.
TW is ok... better then Sense IMO, however I like the stock ASOP feel. I will give a 4.2 rom a try. can you recommend a popular, 100% working 4.2 ROM? I looked in the dev section and there are so many Roms to choose from........ 24 hours of having my S3 and i LOVE it! so buttery smooth!
Blackbean 7 Is the most stable of the bunch as of now.
Ok. If you are going to root and Rom there are some things you need to know.
Your going to want to unlock your boot loader. And make an imei backup incase you lose it during a flash.
Search those up and get them done and your good to go
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thanks guys, i rooted the phone with no problems last night. got root and unlocked bootloader. I wanted to try out CM10 so I fla**** it this morning. So far so good. really like 4.2
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thanks guys, i rooted the phone with no problems last night. got root and unlocked bootloader. I wanted to try out CM10 so I fla**** it this morning. So far so good. really like 4.2
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Do you mean Cm 10.1? Because if you flashed cm10 you're still on 4.1. Cm10 has a stable release while cm10.1 is still on nightlies. I've been running 10.1 nightlies for about a month and have only noticed very minor issues. So minor I can't even remember what they are.
Words fails me. I am so disgusted I have ran out of expletives so I won't bother repeating them here. Seriously...voice dialer is STILL not working! This update was specifically designed to fix this bug and it is still not working. I just can't understand what is so hard about putting back in functionality that was working before in ICS and was necessary.
This is the sort of thing that gets people to switch over irrevocably to apple. This has been going on for like a year now. It is starting to feel like it is being done on purpose for God knows what reason. Does it work for anyone else?
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What update? This phone is officially on 4.1.1 . You are not guaranteed anything by running custom software.
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What update? This phone is officially on 4.1.1 . You are not guaranteed anything by running custom software.
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Fair enough. Although I never said I was guaranteed anything and apparently we are also not guaranteed to have important functionality (aka voice dialer) to work from one official release to the next. It worked fine when I had ICS it just broke when I was upgraded to JB. I would prefer not to have to root my phone to get it work, but if I waited for the official channels then I will likely have to wait until I get my next phone for a fix.
Both Google and AOKP mentioned that bluetooth issues were fixed with 4.2.2 and I was inquiring whether this worked for others as it did not work for me. Neither 4.1.1, nor 4.1.2 nor 4.2.1 nor 4.2.2 nor any of the other little hacks others have tried have worked and I know others on the official release of 4.2.2 for Nexus had similar problems so I was hoping someone might have run across a solution.
I know I sounded snarky, but I am just really frustrated.
So I do not know if this will help you but I had pacman rom and the dialer wasn't working so I reflashed, no wiping and it fixed it.
Also there is always the option of going back to the stable TW roms. Which is what I did. You can't be mad for things not running smooth when you're running custom roms that make no claims of stability.
Via my S3 CleanRom 5.6
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So I do not know if this will help you but I had pacman rom and the dialer wasn't working so I reflashed, no wiping and it fixed it.
Also there is always the option of going back to the stable TW roms. Which is what I did. You can't be mad for things not running smooth when you're running custom roms that make no claims of stability.
Via my S3 CleanRom 5.6
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Thanks for the info, it was definitely worth a try. Alas the pacman rom did not do the trick. I had the official JB TW update and that is what broke my phone in the first place and I am not really interested in going back to ICS since I got the new phone so I can get Jelly Bean. I have also tried CleamROM and the the latest CM, AOKP and liquidSmooth 4.2.2 along with the just released gapps-jb-130301-signed.zip. No dice.
I'll keep banging away and let everyone know if I find a solution with other ROMs or tweaks.
I am not mad about custom ROMs not working properly I am mad about the official release breaking critical functionality for me.
I tried PK and PA ROMs in addition to aready mentioned. Voice dial does not work in any of them. I also tried Ktoonsez kernel - no dice. I think it's a major JB problem and there won't be any working ROM until Google fixes the issue. I just stopped trying :crying: ...
Hello, I just rooted my Galaxy S3 for Verizon for the first time yesterday, therefore I am fairly new to this. After I flashed CM10 using TWRP, my Google apps are gone. I've tried flashing gapps on TWRP but it gives me a message saying "unfortunately, Google Play has stopped working." I know that this is due to the licensing issues and all, so my question is, what ROMS can I flash that has GApps available in it?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello, I just rooted my Galaxy S3 for Verizon for the first time yesterday, therefore I am fairly new to this. After I flashed CM10 using TWRP, my Google apps are gone. I've tried flashing gapps on TWRP but it gives me a message saying "unfortunately, Google Play has stopped working." I know that this is due to the licensing issues and all, so my question is, what ROMS can I flash that has GApps available in it?
Thanks in advance!
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To answer your question, any TW based roms will have Gapps with it. So practically any rom in the Verizon Galaxy S III Android Development forum would have it. To your issue, are you sure you flashed the right Gapps version? Just as reference you can get any version from here http://goo.im/gapps I assumed you flashed 10.1 version of CM since they are the latest which you should be using the 20130301 version of Gapps following the table that is on that website.
This might be a stupid question, but where can I find this forum? And yes, I did flash that version of Gapps... And correction; I have the 10.0.0-d2vzw version of CM. Am I supposed to get another version of Gapps? I really like this ROM and I want to try it out for a few weeks until I switch to a new one.
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This might be a stupid question, but where can I find this forum? And yes, I did flash that version of Gapps... And correction; I have the 10.0.0-d2vzw version of CM. Am I supposed to get another version of Gapps? I really like this ROM and I want to try it out for a few weeks until I switch to a new one.
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Forum section for us is http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1708 Go there and click on Verizon Galaxy S III Android Development forum. If you look at the website link I gave you, they have a table. On the left, it shows the CM versions and on the right shows the corresponding Gapps version you are suppose to use with that CM version. Since you are using 10.0.0, if you look on the left you will see 10.0.x and on the right, you will see the corresponding gapps version 20121011. You use that version for CM 10. Btw if you find CM 10 interesting go to the Verizon Galaxy S III Original Android Development forum. They have roms based on CM, AOSP, AOKP, etc. Be sure to read up more on flashing since you are pretty new to this. Bricking phones isn't fun lol
What ROMS do you personally recommend? And I know! I almost bricked it yesterday, and trust me, it was not fun at all.
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What ROMS do you personally recommend? And I know! I almost bricked it yesterday, and trust me, it was not fun at all.
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Depends on your preference. If you are into the Stock TouchWiz look but without the bloat that verizon puts, I recommend CleanRom. I also recommend it to people who are new to flashing since it is a pretty simple rom. This rom is pretty much as close as you can get to getting stock reliability. If you want to go into a more customize it yourself TouchWiz roms, I would suggest SynergyROM, Jelly 'Beans' Rom, Hyperdrive, or Axis. Besides each having their own tweaks and sometimes themes, during install, you get to choose which apps/settings/kernel/theme, you want to have, so pretty much you get to customize almost all aspects of the rom to your liking. They all also get updated on a somewhat regular basis. You will have to flash all of them and play with them to see which one is to your liking.
For CM 10.1 based roms, CM 10.1 Nightlies, Slimbean, Carbon Rom. I would be careful with these roms, as they are a bit temperamental with some phones. Most of the time you are fine and you won't get into an issue but the times that you do, you will have to read through the threads to see if there is a solution to it.
There are also the PARANOIDANDROID and ParanoidKANGdroid roms, I haven't personally tried them but heard good things, they are also based on CM 10.1
I really appreciate your help, bro. For now, I'll stick to the CM 10.1 ROM that I just flashed. It's good so far, and I finally got t solve my issue of gapps thanks to you.
Great example of helping someone! Posts like this are the reason why I became a member of this site and fell in love with it (actually my wife calls it addiction)! I wish there were more people helping others like this, it would only make this forum better.
Hi, it's been almost a year since I last installed a new ROM on my rooted/unlocked S3, and to make a long story short, I'm trying to figure out how to flash to a TW based rom (I'm on a 4.3 version of PACman ROM right now). Not having kept up with anything for the past year, I'm surprised at how complicated everything seems now, so I'm hoping someone can offer any pointers on how to avoid screwing anything up.
I've used ASOP/CM based ROMs for almost the entire time I've had the phone and as good as they are, I'm just having problems with almost daily reboots now, so I want to see if a TW based ROM will be better.
I'm on VRBLK3 baseband if that matters.
I'm ok losing all my data as I have everything important (SMS, whatsapp texts, etc) backed up.
Thanks for any help.
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Hi, it's been almost a year since I last installed a new ROM on my rooted/unlocked S3, and to make a long story short, I'm trying to figure out how to flash to a TW based rom (I'm on a 4.3 version of PACman ROM right now). Not having kept up with anything for the past year, I'm surprised at how complicated everything seems now, so I'm hoping someone can offer any pointers on how to avoid screwing anything up.
I've used ASOP/CM based ROMs for almost the entire time I've had the phone and as good as they are, I'm just having problems with almost daily reboots now, so I want to see if a TW based ROM will be better.
I'm on VRBLK3 baseband if that matters.
I'm ok losing all my data as I have everything important (SMS, whatsapp texts, etc) backed up.
Thanks for any help.
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If you like TW rom then I suggest you try
Alliancerom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973982
It's TW rom with a lot of customization, just follow the instruction in the OP page.
buhohitr said:
If you like TW rom then I suggest you try
Alliancerom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973982
It's TW rom with a lot of customization, just follow the instruction in the OP page.
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Great, thanks for the help. Can I upgrade my modem to the latest version as well?
bruins22 said:
Great, thanks for the help. Can I upgrade my modem to the latest version as well?
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You could but don't go pass VRUBMF1 modem. VRUBMF1 is where you should upgrade to.
Hey im still running Android 4.4.2 CleanRom and its been a while since ive been around. I feel a bit outdate and was wondering what i should upgrade to. Not looking to do nightly's as i do not have the time, just looking for something new and stable. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Cam
camf3xu said:
Hey im still running Android 4.4.2 CleanRom and its been a while since ive been around. I feel a bit outdate and was wondering what i should upgrade to. Not looking to do nightly's as i do not have the time, just looking for something new and stable. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Cam
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Hi, here on xda we dont compare roms, sorry. its just taboo of the worst kind. Also please post questions in the question and answers portion of the forum, thanks and cheers.
I'll go ahead and reply with respect to the split between KitKat and Lollipop. You'll note a bunch of Lollipop-based ROMs appearing. Some have chosen to flash those, to be on the cutting edge. However, the Xposed Framework - one of the most useful customization tooks in the Android world - has not been updated to work with the "ART" (Android Run Time) and instead is only still compatible with Dalvik-based system. The developer of Xposed has indicated that he may work on updating XPosed at some point, but there is no firm commitment or timeline.
I personally will not be upgrading to Lollipop as I find that the tweaks made available by the Xposed Framework and the plethora of modules built for it, are simply too important me to lose by upgrading to what isn't all that radically different of an Android update.
But to each his own. Thought I'd give you a bit of the background.
P.S. Anything by Santod is quality work (NuSenseSix, UnSenseSix, etc). He really knows Android.
Nothing beats stock as far as stability. For newest, well, the newest official software is stock as well until VZW releases Lollipop.
Sacred cows make extra tasty steaks. That said, I'll make recommendations. I think Fluent is as reliable as the stock 4.4.4 and more so than some of the more radically tweaked 4.4.4 ROMs out there built from non-Verizon sources. NuSense is solid as well, but hasn't been updated in a while, is minimally modified, and is based on the oldest of the lollipop releases. if 4.4.4 is all you want, Clean ROM 3.0 was a solid runner for me.
If you can do your own mods then I would go with Lollipop as you don't need xposed if your looking for stable stick to 4.4.4 for now.. Make sure you upgrade your firmware before if you haven't as you r still on 4.4.2 ROM I'm taking a guess your haven't updated firmware.
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If you can do your own mods then I would go with Lollipop as you don't need xposed if your looking for stable stick to 4.4.4 for now.. Make sure you upgrade your firmware before if you haven't as you r still on 4.4.2 ROM I'm taking a guess your haven't updated firmware.
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What do you mean by doing your own mods? Short of coding them, I'm not sure how one would go about getting Samsung Milk to work, or cleaning up the Notification menu, or a bunch of other things that just aren't commonly built into customized ROMs. If you do know of a way to get such things working in Lollipop, do let me know - I'd then be able to make the switch!
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What do you mean by doing your own mods? Short of coding them, I'm not sure how one would go about getting Samsung Milk to work, or cleaning up the Notification menu, or a bunch of other things that just aren't commonly built into customized ROMs. If you do know of a way to get such things working in Lollipop, do let me know - I'd then be able to make the switch!
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I was just saying if you know how to decompile apks an make code changes an recompile your make your own mods.