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Thunderbolt overheating?

I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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Do you use SetCPU to overclock? I would recommend it, as I think it would've prevented your phone from overheating.
I have 3 profiles set up, and then have the overall max set to 1.4ghz and min set to 245mhz using Smartass. I've found it's always a good idea to have a profile set up to limit the overclocking when the temperature is >50C, to prevent damage to the CPU. I have a profile to limit the max OC when the phone is charging, to help prevent it from overheating. I also use a profile to limit the max when the screen is off, since you don't need the extra speed then, and it helps on battery life. My profiles are:
Temp > 50C - Max=768; Min=245
Screen Off - Max=368; Min=245
Charging - Max=1024; Min=245

Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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tipsofme said:
Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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No problem, man. Hope it helps!

My battery life is night and day different! Thank you again!
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Are any of the governors better than the others for handling this?

The goverer used really depends on your own personal usage of the phone. Experment and see which works best for you. FWIW I use interactive and am pretty happy with it.

Ill try that one out. I found Ondemand to waste too much battery, and smartass to be passable.

i just had something weird happen myself. i just installed NONS3NS3 rom and then 'adownloader'. had it downloading a file then all of a sudden the phone locked up and was completely unresponsive. i pulled the battery and it was incredibly hot. waited for it to cool down and now everything is normal again. bizarre, because i could use adownloader just fine when i was on CM7.

My phone gets warm to when i charge it but not 60c. The kernel can cause this too.

tipsofme said:
I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...

nrfitchett4 said:
I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...
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I don't think the battery has any issue. When a Li-on battery fails, it will create a lot of heat, but it will also alter the resistance and voltage characteristics in ways the phone will detect.
If SetCPU resolved the issue, then you've got an issue with your ROM. It shouldn't do that under normal circumstances, and even if you're using SetCPU, something is still trying to use resources abusively. I'd try a different ROM or radio and get SetCPU off of there. It's actually abusive in itself with resources. It's great for testing OC settings, but for long term implementations of settings, a script is the ideal tool for the job as it implements setting directly to the kernel with no further intervention.

Re flash baseband?

I have a g2x that has absolutely horrid battery life when using WXCDMA. When using it on the go, I sometimes loose like 1% life per minute or so, getting quite warm in the process. Also, when these monsterous drains occur, it continues killing the battery while sleep.
When on wifi, the life is great. I have already tried all of the various fixes, but I haven't run across anything that would stop the wcdma modem from sucking so much power.
I'm wondering if reflashing the baseband would work? Is that file even available? Input is greatly appreciated, cause I am envious of people that can make it a full day on a charge....
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greengoldmello said:
I have a g2x that has absolutely horrid battery life when using WXCDMA. When using it on the go, I sometimes loose like 1% life per minute or so, getting quite warm in the process. Also, when these monsterous drains occur, it continues killing the battery while sleep.
When on wifi, the life is great. I have already tried all of the various fixes, but I haven't run across anything that would stop the wcdma modem from sucking so much power.
I'm wondering if reflashing the baseband would work? Is that file even available? Input is greatly appreciated, cause I am envious of people that can make it a full day on a charge....
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not possible as far as i know... just try a factory reset, that is your best bet

JHaste said:
not possible as far as i know... just try a factory reset, that is your best bet
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Been there, done that. Flashed multiple roms also. Same issue
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have you tried getting a new sim card?

greengoldmello said:
Been there, done that. Flashed multiple roms also. Same issue
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"Flashed multiple roms" isn't helpful. Which roms did you flash? Have you tried CM7 or one based on CM?
Have you monitored your battery usage to figure out which apps are eating up your battery?
Do you turn GPS/bluetooth/wifi off when not in use?
Replaced battery (seems to help people who have over heating issues)?
The most common causes of the battery drain/overheating is a rouge app and/or just a bad battery. My battery never even gets warm. I've noticed that even after long periods of gaming or internet surfing that the phone is relatively cool, so it seems you definitely have a problem there. Finding that problem is key.
Before you jump the gun, my SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE>BATTERY USE:
Cell Standby = 58%
Phone idle = 42%
Display = 2%
I don't know why that equals 102% but just roll with it. A good battery monitor app will tell you which specific application is eating battery. I don't use those as I don't have a need to since I don't have a problem, but check those out and report back.

player911 said:
"Flashed multiple roms" isn't helpful. Which roms did you flash? Have you tried CM7 or one based on CM?
Have you monitored your battery usage to figure out which apps are eating up your battery?
Do you turn GPS/bluetooth/wifi off when not in use?
Replaced battery (seems to help people who have over heating issues)?
The most common causes of the battery drain/overheating is a rouge app and/or just a bad battery. My battery never even gets warm. I've noticed that even after long periods of gaming or internet surfing that the phone is relatively cool, so it seems you definitely have a problem there. Finding that problem is key.
Before you jump the gun, my SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE>BATTERY USE:
Cell Standby = 58%
Phone idle = 42%
Display = 2%
I don't know why that equals 102% but just roll with it. A good battery monitor app will tell you which specific application is eating battery. I don't use those as I don't have a need to since I don't have a problem, but check those out and report back.
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I have a brand new sim card.
Yes I have tried cm 7
I haven't tried a new battery simply because its not the battery that gets really hot, its the phone, specifically the area around the camera lens.
Also it doesn't do this while on wifi.
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I think the processor is around the camera lens. I tried flashing a rom that would simply not boot. It would go from the LG screen to a black screen and hang. That is the only time my phone has been warm around the camera lens.
So try to figure out what is taxing your processor and stop it. What rom are you running? You still haven't provided enough details. What about a battery monitor? What apps do you have installed?

player911 said:
I think the processor is around the camera lens. I tried flashing a rom that would simply not boot. It would go from the LG screen to a black screen and hang. That is the only time my phone has been warm around the camera lens.
So try to figure out what is taxing your processor and stop it. What rom are you running? You still haven't provided enough details. What about a battery monitor? What apps do you have installed?
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Nothing was taxing the processor. This has happened on the stock rom with no added apps. Surfing the internet is what made it warm. I used an app called watchdog to see the cpu usage and nothing even went above 40%

[Q] How can I find what's draining my battery?

My sensation currently has a power drain that I can't seem to find the cause for. I'm using InsertCoin 3.4.2 with bricked kernel 1.5, using SPB shell 3D launcher, got an Anker battery, running tasker to cut data, wifi, gps, etc whenever the screen is off, setCPU running ondemand with max at 1536mhz and minimum 192mhz, etc, etc.
I fully charged my phone to 100% about two or three hours ago, and it's been pretty much left alone since. It's now down to 68%.
I've got BetterBatteryStats and SystemPanel, both showing nothing untoward, no active tasks, no wakelocks from what I can tell, etc. And according to the standard app for battery monitoring, it shows the various connections have indeed been turning off as intended, and the phone has been asleep nigh on all the time it's supposed to be.
Any ideas what's going on, or how I could look into it deeper?

I've just been playing with the phone pretty much non stop since I started this thread an hour ago, and the battery level is now at 60%. So that means it's actually consuming MORE power when it's not even in use!

StuartTheFish said:
I've just been playing with the phone pretty much non stop since I started this thread an hour ago, and the battery level is now at 60%. So that means it's actually consuming MORE power when it's not even in use!
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Hi,
There is a lot of talk about battery consumption,and it's causes.
Most people will suggest trying a different kernel,or downclock it to 1.2 GHZ.

I've tried different kernels already, and underclocking the cpu seems to make little difference. As I say, setCPU should be knocking it down to 192mhz whenever the screen is off anyway!

StuartTheFish said:
I've tried different kernels already, and underclocking the cpu seems to make little difference. As I say, setCPU should be knocking it down to 192mhz whenever the screen is off anyway!
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Hi,
Is your ROM a 2.3.4 base or 2.3.5 ?

2.3.5 mate. It's InsertCoin 3.4.2, with sense 3.5 (which I'm not using in favour of SPB).

StuartTheFish said:
2.3.5 mate. It's InsertCoin 3.4.2, with sense 3.5 (which I'm not using in favour of SPB).
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Hi,
I was going to suggest bricked 0.9.1 with a 2.3.4 ROM,because my son has had great results on his Sensation.
I do not know IC well enough to help.
Sorry.

No problem, thanks for your input anyway.

StuartTheFish said:
No problem, thanks for your input anyway.
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1)Try his new test version of bricked(beta4).
http://code.google.com/p/bricked/downloads/list
2)Charge to 100
3)Turn off, wait till green, unplug and plugin(bump charging)
4)Boot to recovery thru bootloader and wipe battery stats and then reboot unplugged
Drain you battery to 1, then charge up and repeat for a few days. And you can lower the clockspeed since you're using ondemand, you won't see a speed difference with 1.2 and higher. Oh and use ultra smooth rosie so the home will be faster...And see which apps are open in B/G.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302914

With the exception of trying the beta bricked kernel, I've already done all that when I first got my anker battery. It's not a calibration issue, it's that something is actually draining the battery even when it should be asleep.
And that rosie change isn't needed, as I'm not even using sense in the first place. I've got no real issues with how the phone actually performs as everything is already perfectly smooth. The only slight issue I have is since flashing the amaze camera, on rare occasions it can lock up when exiting it, requiring a battery pull to get going again.

StuartTheFish said:
With the exception of trying the beta bricked kernel, I've already done all that when I first got my anker battery. It's not a calibration issue, it's that something is actually draining the battery even when it should be asleep.
And that rosie change isn't needed, as I'm not even using sense in the first place. I've got no real issues with how the phone actually performs as everything is already perfectly smooth. The only slight issue I have is since flashing the amaze camera, on rare occasions it can lock up when exiting it, requiring a battery pull to get going again.
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Oops missed the part about SPB, I have been having similar issues but with Faux's kernel after using Amaze cam, but I doubt that could cause sleep drain. I think you drain is caused by the phone not entering "Deep Sleep", some rogue app is keeping the phone partially awake and sucking up juice. I'm gonna go on a hunch and say the phone is running around 1.x GHz while screen if off due to the app.

StuartTheFish said:
With the exception of trying the beta bricked kernel, I've already done all that when I first got my anker battery. It's not a calibration issue, it's that something is actually draining the battery even when it should be asleep.
And that rosie change isn't needed, as I'm not even using sense in the first place. I've got no real issues with how the phone actually performs as everything is already perfectly smooth. The only slight issue I have is since flashing the amaze camera, on rare occasions it can lock up when exiting it, requiring a battery pull to get going again.
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Hopefully mine can help you. I also noticed HUGE battery drain issues in the past using Bricked Kernel, so I then reverted to stock. Battery was GREAT, but the stock kernel blows. So yeah, I went back to bricked and using the 3rd? beta right now. My battery started dropping like crazy again, so I thought it was the kernel. Before, I used bricked and it was fine so again, I couldn't really blame the kernel. What I tried after that is deleteing my OC app (I've used both SetCPU and System Tuner) and since then, battery is great again! You can try this and hopefully it'll help!

Tried that already as I too suspected the OC app a few days ago. Made no improvements to battery life, so I've put it back on today. Not tried a different kernel yet though, as I'd read that the bricked kernel was the best choice with InsertCoin? I used faux123's kernel first of all, but found it ran hot and kept crashing...
Down to 30% now by the way.
Ace42 said:
I think you drain is caused by the phone not entering "Deep Sleep", some rogue app is keeping the phone partially awake and sucking up juice. I'm gonna go on a hunch and say the phone is running around 1.x GHz while screen if off due to the app.
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That's what I'm suspecting too, but I don't know how to go about finding it. I've looked with SystemPanel and BetterBatteryStats and haven't spotted anything, but that could just be because I'm not 100% on what to look for. And why would setCPU not be overriding it and making it clock down to 192mhz whenever the screen is off anyway? Isn't that it's job?

Then try the stock and see if it's still draining. When I tried stock and everything was great, I just simply assumed that it wasn't an app. It was the kernel!

I'm not convinced it's the kernel though, as if it was then battery life would have been crap ever since I flashed it. It hasn't been, it's only been bad for the past few days. Are there any links to the stock kernel just in case I can't find anything else?

- mine is 24 hrs
- heavy use 16 hrs
. Used some aninations only
. Turn off wifi when not in use
. Used only 20% brightness
. Used juice defender
. Downclock to 1.2 ghz intellideman
And ofc my kernel and rom that im using right now!
Thank me if I helped

I use bricked and i actually got better batter out of it but itsn still not up to par.. However fauxs ran faster but my phone was getting up to 47C... Way too hot.. I don't know why mines running so hot.. Using coredroid 2.6. 1.5 bricked kernel. wiped dalv and cache and battery stats... blah.. any input? i had setcpu and deleted it.

SetCPU is uninstalled again now to see if it was causing anything, and there's still a drain on the battery when it should be sleeping. Does anyone have any tips on how to find what's keeping it awake? It's been fully charged again, been unplugged for just one hour and it's down to 80% battery. Not even been using it apart from me flashing the InsertCoin Bravia addition onto it, making it 3.4.3.
One thing I have noticed though, is that BetterBatteryStats says the RILJ dialler has been running for 5m 33s since it was last charged, 775 times, 8.9%. This is on the partial wakelocks screen, whatever they are. Everything else listed is under 1%, with the only exception being the alarm at 1.6%. What does this mean?

Can someone help me pinpoint my crappy battery life issue?

I have stock android Non rooted. I turned off Google now, reduced the number of apps that automatically sync. Put display down to 15 percent brightness.
I have no idea whats causing this:
Down to 70 percent so far today.
http://imgur.com/a/2mAc2
http://imgur.com/9iUieNJ
http://imgur.com/D115tbf
I did some youtube, gaming etc. Obvisouly not THAT much given my low screen on time.
Even without vid watching, it drops about this much each day.
THe only way Im gettign by is by having a wireless charger so i constantly charge it.

Do you have the SendHub app by any chance? It was sapping up my battery and I have better results after I froze it with Titanium.
I have a rooted, stock, and tweaked 32GB Nexus 5.

What settings are on your kernel?
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dicecuber said:
What settings are on your kernel?
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I..dunno. I never touched any of those settings.

Is the CPU over clocked?
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He said he's stock people lol.
I dunno I'm stock and I get great battery life. Have you tried going to settings / apps and then running. It will show processes that are running and the CPU time, look for something taking up an lot of CPU time.
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It's obviously the screen doing most of the damage. How bright is your phone set to again? Just 15? I can see the dips when your screen is on and for an hour of screen on time, that's not out of the question on a device that only totes about 5 hours max of screen on time.
Also why are your fonts so huge? Accessibility settings? If you're not rooted and running stock you need to be checking background processes. Id recommend maube looking into rooting and installimg a custom kernel so you can check and adjust a cpu governer to make sure your CPU isn't running faster than it needs to. You could also possibly stand to undervolt a bit.
Edit: made some errors my bad
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wafermagnet said:
I have stock android Non rooted. I turned off Google now, reduced the number of apps that automatically sync. Put display down to 15 percent brightness.
I have no idea whats causing this:
Down to 70 percent so far today.
http://imgur.com/a/2mAc2
http://imgur.com/9iUieNJ
http://imgur.com/D115tbf
I did some youtube, gaming etc. Obvisouly not THAT much given my low screen on time.
Even without vid watching, it drops about this much each day.
THe only way Im gettign by is by having a wireless charger so i constantly charge it.
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Speculations until we see a BetterBatteryStats log. Get us one of those if you want real answers. Using the device while gathering the data for the log can obscure the issue, so gather a log overnight. That awake time is troubling.

Is Google Now keeping the phone awake? Mine sometimes hangs up and I have to force close the app or restart the phone.

Synyster06Gates said:
Is Google Now keeping the phone awake? Mine sometimes hangs up and I have to force close the app or restart the phone.
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I turned google now off.

movielover76 said:
He said he's stock people lol.
I dunno I'm stock and I get great battery life. Have you tried going to settings / apps and then running. It will show processes that are running and the CPU time, look for something taking up an lot of CPU time.
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Yes there were a few apps that had a lot of time, the keyboard, Box.com app, facebook, and a few others. But I didn't bother with it too much because the idle time isnt that bad. The battery goes down quickly two ways: 1. Screen on time. 2. Me checking it every few minutes wakes everything up I guess and lowers it really fast.

What do you mean by "some Youtube"? 15 mins or an hour?
And did you check the Mediaserver runtime? I had a battery issue with my Nexus 5 on stock ROM too and the reason was the permanent Mediaserver activity.
Sadly, I couldn't figure out the reason. Maybe there is a corrupt file on your storage and it keeps scanning or an app is not really compatible with 4.4...
I switched to a custom ROM and the problem was gone...

muEcke* said:
What do you mean by "some Youtube"? 15 mins or an hour?
And did you check the Mediaserver runtime? I had a battery issue with my Nexus 5 on stock ROM too and the reason was the permanent Mediaserver activity.
Sadly, I couldn't figure out the reason. Maybe there is a corrupt file on your storage and it keeps scanning or an app is not really compatible with 4.4...
I switched to a custom ROM and the problem was gone...
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Well, the screen on time was about 45 mins...Id say about 30 min of Youtube.
Its not mediaserver usage. the biggest thing is the screen I think. Ive been trying to find apps that run in the background and uninstall them as well.

muEcke* said:
What do you mean by "some Youtube"? 15 mins or an hour?
And did you check the Mediaserver runtime? I had a battery issue with my Nexus 5 on stock ROM too and the reason was the permanent Mediaserver activity.
Sadly, I couldn't figure out the reason. Maybe there is a corrupt file on your storage and it keeps scanning or an app is not really compatible with 4.4...
I switched to a custom ROM and the problem was gone...
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Well, the screen on time was about 45 mins...Id say about 30 min of Youtube.
Its not mediaserver usage. the biggest thing is the screen I think. Ive been trying to find apps that run in the background and uninstall them as well.

Battery is very weird ?

Hey guys. I recently went back to 25r in an attempt to get better battery. And I am. What's strange is that in the first 50% I'll get 3hours soc. But I'm now on 18% with 4hours and 10 mins. Seems kinda strange. Not using the phone any differently. I do have a Google play services drain but its only 14% and I don't think its doing that much harm
Any one else?
J
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Fix the drain, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
Posts like this don't really help as we need to see what wakelocks are going on with your phone as well as the number of times its waking up your device.
The whole post-50% is a coincidence.

It's completely normal for you to have a 'faster' drain on the lower 50% of your battery life. But what Zephik said is right, it's impossible to say what's happening on your device without you providing some accompanying analytical data.
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zephiK said:
Fix the drain, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
Posts like this don't really help as we need to see what wakelocks are going on with your phone as well as the number of times its waking up your device.
The whole post-50% is a coincidence.
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It's completely normal for you to have a 'faster' drain on the lower 50% of your battery life. But what Zephik said is right, it's impossible to say what's happening on your device without you providing some accompanying analytical data.
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Im quiet happy with my battery, get about 3 hours soc until 50% and then i get home from work, so its not a massive issue for me. What i find weird is the 49%-1%
Drain a hell of a lot faster, not really an explanation as to why it does that?
Hoping the 38r update that comes out next sunday makes it even better though
J
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JackHanAnLG said:
Im quiet happy with my battery, get about 3 hours soc until 50% and then i get home from work, so its not a massive issue for me. What i find weird is the 49%-1%
Drain a hell of a lot faster, not really an explanation as to why it does that?
Hoping the 38r update that comes out next sunday makes it even better though
J
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Install a app such as GSam / Wakelock Detector / BetterBatteryStats, on your next battery cycle running one of the 3 apps listed, post up screenshots of the listings so we can further discuss this. Or you can take a look at them yourself if you know what to look for.
You'd be looking for partial wakelocks / wake ups