Is it possible to root without wiping, and without blocking future OTAs?
All I want to do is use an ad-blocker like AdFree, so if possible, I'd like to root, run AdFree, and unroot, so I can still get OTA updates.
Paul22000 said:
Is it possible to root without wiping, and without blocking future OTAs?
All I want to do is use an ad-blocker like AdFree, so if possible, I'd like to root, run AdFree, and unroot, so I can still get OTA updates.
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You don't have to unroot to receive OTA updates.
The only wipe required is to unlock the bootloader. Rooting itself doesn't wipe anything.
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Paul22000 said:
Is it possible to root without wiping, and without blocking future OTAs?
All I want to do is use an ad-blocker like AdFree, so if possible, I'd like to root, run AdFree, and unroot, so I can still get OTA updates.
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As Petrovski80 said, unlocking the bootloader and so the device getting wiped is innevitable. If you install superSU set it into survival mode in the SU settings so root will stick after you installed the OTA.
Pirateghost said:
The only wipe required is to unlock the bootloader. Rooting itself doesn't wipe anything.
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Is it possible to root without unlocking the bootloader?
Paul22000 said:
Is it possible to root without unlocking the bootloader?
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No.
I remember reading about rooting without unlocking the boot loader was possible.
Will try to find the link
peron said:
I remember reading about rooting without unlocking the boot loader was possible.
Will try to find the link
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On the Nexus 5 specifically?
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peron said:
I remember reading about rooting without unlocking the boot loader was possible.
Will try to find the link
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That would be great.
All I want is to block ads one-time. If I can do it without wiping, that would be great. If not, I'm not sure if it's worth it.
Paul22000 said:
That would be great.
All I want is to block ads one-time. If I can do it without wiping, that would be great. If not, I'm not sure if it's worth it.
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Don`t get your hopes up bro, not posssible for the intial root. There is an app to lock and relock the bootloader once you are rooted without wiping the phone, link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731993.
BTW: you can backup your user apps and data with Helium, link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup&hl=nl.
Paul22000 said:
That would be great.
All I want is to block ads one-time. If I can do it without wiping, that would be great. If not, I'm not sure if it's worth it.
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I thought one of the ad free type apps had a none root option that symlinked to /data anyway
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I thought one of the ad free type apps had a none root option that symlinked to /data anyway
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Can you explain a bit more? What app is that?
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Can you explain a bit more? What app is that?
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"Ad free"
http://adfree.bigtincan.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190310
Although looks like support has stopped so no idea if it will even work.
gee2012 said:
Don`t get your hopes up bro, not posssible for the intial root. There is an app to lock and relock the bootloader once you are rooted without wiping the phone, link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731993.
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This was the app I was thinking of but I missed the bit about an initial bootloader unlock.
I have never found an app that would backup and restore the exact state of the phone beside a nandroid but that requires an unlocked bootloader.
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"Ad free"
http://adfree.bigtincan.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190310
Although looks like support has stopped so no idea if it will even work.
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That's the one I was using. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it definitely DOES need root, no?
Like I said, there used to be a non-root option in the app to symlink to /data. I've not used it in a while because adaway is just better. But the option definitely used to be there
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BTW: you can backup your user apps and data with Helium, link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup&hl=nl.
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This. As Titanium backup requires root, just backup your apps/whatever and you are set. You can also set Google to backup contacts, Wifi passwords and such to your Google account. As usual, don't backup system data, its not necessary. That's nandroid's job
Unlocking though is a bit of a funny process with the N5, mostly due to Google not giving us drivers. Therefore don't be too hasty and read up first. Rooting though most recoveries will do as well as SuperSU.
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Like I said, there used to be a non-root option in the app to symlink to /data. I've not used it in a while because adaway is just better. But the option definitely used to be there
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Does adaway offer a non-root options?
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Does adaway offer a non-root options?
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No, all ad-blockers need root. I guess you`re new to this but to sum it all up: for ad-blocking you need root and to get rooted you need to unlock the BL which will wipe the device but you may or may not backup your apps and data with Helium. That`s realy it bro
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No, all ad-blockers need root.
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Adfree had a non-root option. Also quick Google and I found ad block plus does too.
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I just purchased a Java card s-off from the HTC modzone, and I'm wondering if the weaksauce root that is out will work as a permanent root once my phone is s-off? Or will I have a s-off device and have to wait for a new permanent root method?
Thanks
sorcerer86 said:
I just purchased a Java card s-off from the HTC modzone, and I'm wondering if the weaksauce root that is out will work as a permanent root once my phone is s-off? Or will I have a s-off device and have to wait for a new permanent root method?
Thanks
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+1 Can we use the recovery for the other variants or we just now have S-Off? Thanks
I guess this should be moved to Q&A
You might be able to use a recovery from the sprint variant, but I'm not sure.
What about root? Is it permanent?
sorcerer86 said:
What about root? Is it permanent?
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If you do it from recovery, yes.
Once you are s-off, you don't need weaksauce anymore.
Just flash su through a custom recovery like you would normally do when rooting an android device.
MultiDev said:
Once you are s-off, you don't need weaksauce anymore.
Just flash su through a custom recovery like you would normally do when rooting an android device.
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Not that there's a custom recovery for the VZW M8 yet...
What if I don't want custom recovery? I come from a long line of Motorola devices, I'm use to just rooting and I'm done. I don't need/want custom roms, just want full root.
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What if I don't want custom recovery? I come from a long line of Motorola devices, I'm use to just rooting and I'm done. I don't need/want custom roms, just want full root.
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Then you don't need s off. Just use weaksauce for root.
My All New One
Weaksauce isn't full root, or I guess it doesn't allow write to system anyway... that's what I need. I want to use adaway....
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Weaksauce isn't full root, or I guess it doesn't allow write to system anyway... that's what I need. I want to use adaway....
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You can install Xposed and use minminguard. It works great.
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Weaksauce isn't full root, or I guess it doesn't allow write to system anyway... that's what I need. I want to use adaway....
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Look up Xposed installer. There is a thread about what works with Xposed. I think I saw adaway was being used
My All New One
steelersmb said:
You can install Xposed and use minminguard. It works great.
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I've been using xposed for a while. Didn't notice that module I guess...
Ill ckeck it out. Thanks.
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I've been using xposed for a while. Didn't notice that module I guess...
Ill ckeck it out. Thanks.
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The module is no longer being worked on but so far, it's been working for me still.
this thread should answer most of your general java card questions. ill bring it over here as well in the next couple days since sonic has a new card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441299
Is HTC ModSource Sonic? I would assume so given the CO address. Might have to send my phone to him
My question is, how much support for custom ROM's and kernel's are going to be around with such a limited number of people being able to do this?
support thread is live
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2704126
i cant speak for sonic,but in the past he has been willing to do a couple dev phones for free. i wouldnt worry too much about support... either a software exploit will be found,or more folks will get tired of waiting and use his service. either way,there will eventually be support.
i have used his service as well. there is no disasembly of your shiny new phone,and he is trustworthy individual. as long as you also pay for enuff insurance youve nothing to lose but a few days away from your new baby
I already miss mine as I sent it out today... lol
Sending mine out tomorrow. :laugh:
Has anyone used this tool to root OnePlus One?
thegios said:
Has anyone used this tool to root OnePlus One?
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Why bother? The OPO has an easily unlockable bootloader, so you can root, install a custom recovery and ROMs if you so desire.
Cos I dont wanna unlock bootloader and wipe the phone
thegios said:
Cos I dont wanna unlock bootloader and wipe the phone
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Fair enough, you could try it and if it works install titanium backup and backup your apps. Then it would be slightly less hassle to unlock the bootloader. I'm not so sure of the outcome if it doesn't work properly or go wrong, but worse case scenario you may need to wipe to sort your phone out anyway.
I know man, I know
I was simply hoping to find anyone who had already used to get some feedback: I really have no time to restart from zero on the phone, in case anything goes wrong with titanium, helium or anything else.
In addition, my phone works like a charm, have no issues at all: I'd rather not touch it
thegios said:
I know man, I know
I was simply hoping to find anyone who had already used to get some feedback: I really have no time to restart from zero on the phone, in case anything goes wrong with titanium, helium or anything else.
In addition, my phone works like a charm, have no issues at all: I'd rather not touch it
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What about using fastboot to root? You dont need to unlock and wipe, see the below posts and thread for info. Safer than using an 'exploit'.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54249202&postcount=11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54250245&postcount=14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54458264&postcount=31
Edit: Sorry just read through an looks like subsequent updates closed the option of rooting with locked bootloader.
gsmyth said:
What about using fastboot to root? You dont need to unlock and wipe, see the below posts and thread for info. Safer than using an 'exploit'.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54249202&postcount=11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54250245&postcount=14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54458264&postcount=31
Edit: Sorry just read through an looks like subsequent updates closed the option of rooting with locked bootloader.
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wow, didn't know about this... and I have been searching for ages...
does this only root the phone or also installs TWRP?
thegios said:
wow, didn't know about this... and I have been searching for ages...
does this only root the phone or also installs TWRP?
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Sorry, updated my post, Oneplus patched this so it can't be done now.
gsmyth said:
Sorry, updated my post, Oneplus patched this so it can't be done now.
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ok thanks...
King doesn't work. The only way to root is by unlocking the bootloader. It's best to research a phone when you're buying it, then you'd just unlock the bootloader before committing data to the device.
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I've try in my oneplus one with lollipop, and it works!
I can't install supersu, but there is kinguser and it's the same!
I've checked with root check, I've also installed titnum backup and adaway
Inviato dal mio OnePlus One 64gb
Can rooting can cause entering of malware into your mobile (with root permission!!)? Are malwares are more powerful in a rooted mobile? Can it be avoided?
Refer the #45 point in the below link:
Ref: http://blogs.quickheal.com/wp/50-dos-and-donts-of-internet-security-for-the-year-2015/
What about the very popular chinese tool which roots your android device within minutes! The softwares installed by these chinese tool are found harmful by the quick heal antivirus.
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
Note: I am not blaming any dev. I just want correct information about the same.
Thanking you in anticipation
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Yes, rooting your device makes it less secure. It allows apps to access a lower level of your system than the manufacturer intended. But you usually have to allow root access to apps so if an app is requesting root and you don't know what it is, don't allow it.
jd1639 said:
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Yes, rooting your device makes it less secure. It allows apps to access a lower level of your system than the manufacturer intended. But you usually have to allow root access to apps so if an app is requesting root and you don't know what it is, don't allow it.
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I rooted my phone through the popular Chinese tool, and quick heal antivirus suggested to uninstall the Chinese super su. What should I do now?
An other method to root my phone?
LG L5ll
Try downloading chainfire's superSU from the play store.
jd1639 said:
Try downloading chainfire's superSU from the play store.
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Just downloading it will replace the chinese super su?
You'll have to run it. It should update the supersu binary.
Installation failed
jd1639 said:
You'll have to run it. It should update the supersu binary.
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I installed it, and tried to update it "normally" (since I don't have TWRP or CWM installed).
But installation failed
yashgumaste said:
I installed it, and tried to update it "normally" (since I don't have TWRP or CWM installed).
But installation failed
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Then it's not going to work. It was worth a try. What root method did you use?
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jd1639 said:
Then it's not going to work. It was worth a try. What root method did you use?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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I rooted my phone using the chineese tool "vroot"
OK, see this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434453 There is a section on how to use supersu to replace the binary. It's a little more involved that I originally thought.
jd1639 said:
OK, see this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434453 There is a section on how to use supersu to replace the binary. It's a little more involved that I originally thought.
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That thread has been closed because the software was injecting malware and connecting to remote server...
And also there is no solution to my problem of not getting updated.
All right, see this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-l3-l5-l7-l9-ii. And Aguayo this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2429931. You might want to return your device to stock to get rid of all remnants of the root method you used and then start all over.
jd1639 said:
All right, see this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-l3-l5-l7-l9-ii. And Aguayo this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2429931. You might want to return your device to stock to get rid of all remnants of the root method you used and then start all over.
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Thankyou that one is very useful thread.
I want one suggestion-
Should I first flash the slimsystem's rom and then root it again and unlock bootloader etc.
or in any another sequence?
iamrohanreddy said:
Thanks for using xda assist. I would say that I would actually prevent malware as whenever an app uses root it will prompt the user grant it root permission. And even if it takes the permission the superuser app will show a small toast on the screen. If u are still unsure I would recommend u to download cm security as an antivirus from Google play store. Hope it helps !!!.
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I have quick heal security installed and it indicated that the Chinese super su app kinguser should be uninstalled
it is said this Dirty COW vulnerability is affected almost all Android devices, so is it possible to use this Dirty COW to get a temp root for Xperia XZ ?
Believe me, you are not the only one, who hopes that
Read on here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
Sorry if this is a derail, but what exactly is the point of a temp root? Would you be able to temporarily root the phone, then run something like Adaway, restart ->unroot, but still have all the adblocking capability? Without affecting bootloader and android pay etc?
maidguitar said:
Sorry if this is a derail, but what exactly is the point of a temp root? Would you be able to temporarily root the phone, then run something like Adaway, restart ->unroot, but still have all the adblocking capability? Without affecting bootloader and android pay etc?
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temp root is for backup TA/drm partition before unlock bootloader, that means you will not lose warranty even unlocked bootloader 'cuz you can restore TA partition any time you want
BloodEdge said:
temp root is for backup TA/drm partition before unlock bootloader, that means you will not lose warranty even unlocked bootloader 'cuz you can restore TA partition any time you want
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Aaah, that makes sense. In this case though, would my example of running a one-time root app like Adaway work?
maidguitar said:
Aaah, that makes sense. In this case though, would my example of running a one-time root app like Adaway work?
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no idea honestly, but though you have already backup TA so why not just unlock bootloader and let it root permanently:silly:
BloodEdge said:
no idea honestly, but though you have already backup TA so why not just unlock bootloader and let it root permanently:silly:
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I want to keep android pay functionality, and it looks like the latest updates to pay check for unlocked bootloader, etc.
So I was thinking to do whatever root things I need, like Adaway hosts file patch, TiBu backup/restores, and then reboot to get rid of root.
maidguitar said:
I want to keep android pay functionality, and it looks like the latest updates to pay check for unlocked bootloader, etc.
So I was thinking to do whatever root things I need, like Adaway hosts file patch, TiBu backup/restores, and then reboot to get rid of root.
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hmmmm, maybe you should check about Magisk
maidguitar said:
I want to keep android pay functionality, and it looks like the latest updates to pay check for unlocked bootloader, etc.
So I was thinking to do whatever root things I need, like Adaway hosts file patch, TiBu backup/restores, and then reboot to get rid of root.
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I like the concept. Intrigued. But doubtful perhaps
Was speaking to someone about this recently.
WIll post if anything comes from it.
BloodEdge said:
it is said this Dirty COW vulnerability is affected almost all Android devices, so is it possible to use this Dirty COW to get a temp root for Xperia XZ ?
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I don't see it happening anytime soon on any xperia x devices temp root or full locked bootloader root+recovery no one seems to care all I ever get is use the DRM-fix been waiting 4mths for a way to back up the ta keys/get lb root
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This is just sad... Im faced with a decision I dont want to make.. which is NOT get a Sony phone...... What is wrong with these companies? They think we want to pay 700$ and not beable to use it the way WE WANT? come on ! this is just ridiculous.... Ill just have to buy a older phone, newer models mostly all of them, the ones i really want, are not dev friendly...
Old discussions... Just realize there is a very small amount of people needing root. Also on this point you have to discuss the question of security - rooting.
Good morning guys. The vulnerability is still out there.. could be possible to achieve temp root to backup TA partition?
I see a lot of custom ROMs on https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development but I am not sure which to use. My main goal is to remove all the builtin Samsung apps that I cannot disable/uninstall like Calendar and Internet. I started looking at SuperMan but then saw it has a lot of other enhancements too. I also want to avoid my device being rooted because I have to install apps that won't install if my phone is rooted (GFE/BlackBerry Work).
LineageOS or Resurrection Remix.
Just disable the Samsung apps you don't want. That's the only remedy for you.
SuperMan is probably the closest you'll get to stock. If that's too far off, I'm not really sure of any other options. You could temporarily root and try removing the offending apps, I'm not sure how much the system depends on them.
There's also the option of Magisk (Systemless) root, which shouldn't effect root-adverse apps.
I have rooted stock G930F rom with Magisk and removed close to a 100 system apps. No bugs, no crashes, and it is the best rom there is, if you tweak it right. Btw, you can hide root with Magisk and install your apps.
Memovic said:
I have rooted stock G930F rom with Magisk and removed close to a 100 system apps. No bugs, no crashes, and it is the best rom there is, if you tweak it right. Btw, you can hide root with Magisk and install your apps.
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This is awesome. Any details/links/help on how to install remove those 100 system apps? I I see lots of articles on how to install Magisk so I can probably figure that out but not sure about how to install the system apps.
imthenachoman said:
This is awesome. Any details/links/help on how to install remove those 100 system apps? I I see lots of articles on how to install Magisk so I can probably figure that out but not sure about how to install the system apps.
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Please take my advice:
Do NOT root your device.
Cause that has some side effects and nearly no benefits:
You won't be able to encrypt your phone again.
You'll have to install magisk to get some things to work
Do NOT install an AOKP based ROM cause there are severe bluetooth bugs.
Just install "BK Package Disabler (Samsung)" on stockrom and get rid of Samsungs bloatware.
PS:
I'm back to stockrom after installing LOS and I regret that step, cause it tripped the knox-bit.
Perhaps the BT bugs will be fixed in future; then I'll give LOS another shot.
Lol @ this lad above, get your facts straight.
On-topic: I followed root instructions from galaxys7root. For the debloating part, there is a topic called "Debloat your S7" or something like that, which helped me uninstall most of the apps, and the other ones I just uninstalled cause I didn't need them.
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Lol @ this lad above, get your facts straight.
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Laughing isn't very polite.
On-topic:
How did you get your phone encrypted again?
What are the benefits of being rooted nowadays?
OK, TB would be one thing for me.
And... tinkering.
Do some Google-ing, should get the answers.
Memovic said:
Do some Google-ing, should get the answers.
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Thanks for sharing your limitless wisdom :good:
if you want a rom as close to perfect, try helios 7.22.1
sammydoro said:
Please take my adviceo NOT root your device.
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Everything I have read says that there are no issues rooting. Lots of folks have done it w/o issues. Maybe yours was a one-off?
Memovic said:
On-topic: I followed root instructions from galaxys7root. For the debloating part, there is a topic called "Debloat your S7" or something like that, which helped me uninstall most of the apps, and the other ones I just uninstalled cause I didn't need them.
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Thank you! I will give it a shot.
imthenachoman said:
Everything I have read says that there are no issues rooting. Lots of folks have done it w/o issues. Maybe yours was a one-off?
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Rooting went flawlessly.
I took the TWRP / Magisk way.
OK, loosing all the data is quite normal, when formating data, to get rid of the encryption.
But it trips your knox-fuse with the following consequences:
S-Health does not work anymore. OK, there is a build.prop hack to get it working.
OTA updates will not work anymore.
S-Pay (and others) is said to not work anymore.
Encryption does not work or is risky (look at Chainfires post):
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72204306&postcount=978
No one knows, how long safetynet will be covered by Magisk. Btw.: Magisk is great!
If I am wrong at any point, pls correct me.
I only rooted to use LOS. But there are too many errors atm.
So I returned to stock and have to live with these issues.
So it depends on your usecase.
If you just want to debloat your stockrom, use BK- disabler.
If you want more, root it.
sammydoro said:
If you just want to debloat your stockrom, use BK- disabler.
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Can BK disabler disable or uninstall some of the built-in apps like Calendar and Contacts?
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Can BK disabler disable or uninstall some of the built-in apps like Calendar and Contacts?
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Yes. That is the purpose of the app.
And, in my opinion, it works reliable and comfortable.
sammydoro said:
Rooting went flawlessly.
I took the TWRP / Magisk way.
OK, loosing all the data is quite normal, when formating data, to get rid of the encryption.
But it trips your knox-fuse with the following consequences:
S-Health does not work anymore. OK, there is a build.prop hack to get it working.
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I rooted, but my S Health is still working
sammydoro said:
OTA updates will not work anymore.
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Yes, that's good, so Samsung won't remove my root or any system apps I am using or adding system apps I removed.
sammydoro said:
S-Pay (and others) is said to not work anymore.
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S-Pay doesn't work in our country, so what? It's a fail project anyhow.
sammydoro said:
Encryption does not work or is risky (look at Chainfires post):
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72204306&postcount=978
No one knows, how long safetynet will be covered by Magisk. Btw.: Magisk is great!
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If I am wrong at any point, pls correct me.
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