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To replace my 8900 - Nexus one?

Hi guys, I have a 8900 BB on contract - but it is going to waste. A few months ago, had water damage to phone - got most of it fixed (things like kb failed to work etc), but one thing which the guy at the shop was unable to fix was - the mic. This means, it is very quiet and you will have to somewhat shout into the mic for the other person to hear you and subsequently I have been forced to use a wired headset with a mic on it, instead, which is very inconvenient as you can imagine as I would rather not walk around with earphones and extra wires. Bluetooth is not an option I am fond of either.
So I was thinking about replacing the phone, initially I was to get another 8900, or even a 9700 to replace it - but thought - hey why not go all out and get something like the Droid, HD2, N900, etc etc.
But then, the Nexus One came which seems to fit the bill in all ways - although kind of surprised it is the same dimensions as a HD2 (and I thought that phone looked weird due to its size, maybe it was due to its shape though who knows..). Well, android, better battery and sleeker looks - definitely appeals to me. If I get that phone unlocked, put my O2 unlimited sim in (with unlim inet), would it work fine with the phone?
Any pro's/con's reviews you would like to share on the Nexus one? Is it worth holding out for the Bravo or is it just really not worth it?

Glad to hear you are getting rid of crack berry!
From your options I would go for Leo definitely!
Good luck,

ma2k5 said:
Hi guys, I have a 8900 BB on contract - but it is going to waste. A few months ago, had water damage to phone - got most of it fixed (things like kb failed to work etc), but one thing which the guy at the shop was unable to fix was - the mic. This means, it is very quiet and you will have to somewhat shout into the mic for the other person to hear you and subsequently I have been forced to use a wired headset with a mic on it, instead, which is very inconvenient as you can imagine as I would rather not walk around with earphones and extra wires. Bluetooth is not an option I am fond of either.
So I was thinking about replacing the phone, initially I was to get another 8900, or even a 9700 to replace it - but thought - hey why not go all out and get something like the Droid, HD2, N900, etc etc.
But then, the Nexus One came which seems to fit the bill in all ways - although kind of surprised it is the same dimensions as a HD2 (and I thought that phone looked weird due to its size, maybe it was due to its shape though who knows..). Well, android, better battery and sleeker looks - definitely appeals to me. If I get that phone unlocked, put my O2 unlimited sim in (with unlim inet), would it work fine with the phone?
Any pro's/con's reviews you would like to share on the Nexus one? Is it worth holding out for the Bravo or is it just really not worth it?
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Don't get the droid or n900.
HD2 or 9700 Bold is fine.

Inspire Review

Hey guys. My name is Jordan. I have been on Android Central and XDA Develipers for a while now and have been working on starting to do my own reviews and stuff and have started a website I am looking to see what peoples opinions are. I have my first post up there and plan on doing more just want to get some opinions from the people on AC. Please let me know. Link removed by moderator
Oh where to begin. For me I have come from many Android Devices such as the Moto Droid 1, Droid 2, Droid X, HTC Aria, Samsung Captivate, and Dell Streak along with getting to play with many others such as the HTC Evo, LG Ally, LG Vortex,
all of the LG Optimus series, Nexus 1 and Nexus S. All of these phones have been fun and I have been in the constant toss up of weather to stick with my Captivate or move over to one of the new phones. I work for AT&T currently and we have 3 new phones that are coming out within the next few months. I took a look at everything and have been sitting there for about 2 weeks and finally decided it was time to switch. I loved my Captivate but it was behind the curve and got tired of waiting for the offical 2.2 update to come out.
So after I decided if I wanted to switch it was time for me to pick which one of these 3 new phones I wanted to go with. So I sat down and did my research and looked at everything I could. The first phone to get knocked off was the Samsung Infuse. The phone seems like it will be cool but it had some negatives. After having the Captivate and waiting for the update that kind of got me fed up with Samsung. I know that it is partly At&T's fault but is also part Samsung's also. The other thing about the phone is that it is a 4.5 inch screen. Witht that size it is pusing it beyone beleif. I personally feel anything larger then 4.3 is going to be to big. Yes the Super Amoled + screen will be nice and so will the 16 gig internal storage but to me the 2 main problems I had with it were way to large of negatives. So that left me in a toss up between the Atrix and the Inspire. I looked at the Inspire and figured that I really couldnt find any negatives about the phone. The Atrix
on the other hand is hard. I like the fact that it is Dual Core but it is also a negative where it will suck a lot of battery. Next I hate the price tag. $199 and $459 for the laptop dock. That is flat out rediculous. The $199 for the phone is fine but the Dock is to expensive. Next is Moto Blur. I am not a fan it seems to slow phones down and is a big pain in the butt for most users. So after all of that I decided the Inspire was the way to go.
So I picked up the Inspire with a 4G sim card and have been using it for the last few days. The phone has been running really smooth.
First off is going to be overall looks of the phone. The phone is absolutely beautiful. The size is just right it isnt to small, not to big, but right in between. I like the look. It dosent look like a cheap plastic phone either. It seems like it has a good build quality to it. I like where they have the buttons positioned and am happy that the speaker grill and buttons are all chrome finished. It gives the phone a nice look. The battery door is the one big negative. It is a pain to pull off but if you are a person that dosent see yourself doing this often then you will be perfectly okay with this. Another think that is kind of inconvinent is the position of the 3.5 MM headphone jack.
Next I want to go into the overall User Interface of the phone. The UI is awsome. I have always been a fan of HTC Sense and this definantly dose it justice with it being the newest version of Sense. The clock widget with the weaher and temprature is awsome.
It dose not slow the phone down at all. It is very snappy and I like the set up of it. Along with sense you get a lot of cool backgrounds that are cool and fun to use. With the new sense you are also able to create and account that will alow you to track your phone if it is ever lost and maybe even wipe the phone which I am not completely sure about that but I beleive you can.
Next is the screen. So the screen is something that I was really surprised about with this phone. To be quite honest it was my biggest fear in switching. Coming from the Super Amoled to the LCD wasnt bad at all. To be quite honest they look almost identical. The phone displays pictures and video quality very well. It works awsome and is clear I have no complaints. Along with that the screen is also very responsive. It dose not have any issues with not responding to my touch and it is clear and very snappy. Part of this snappiness is because of the nice 1 GHZ proccessor.
So how about that 8 megapixel camera? It is a very nice clear camera for both still and video quality. I have used it for multiple purposes so far. One of the big ones is when I have been working on my girlfriends car the last few days. I was able to take pictures of parts that were broken or things that may be causing the issue and they were clear and able to displayed perfectly. I sent the pictures to multiple people and they were all very surpirsed. Another nice feature is that you are able to zoom in very far with the camera. It was needed for a few pictures and kept it very clear along with a few dark shots that LED flash helped quite a bit. Video is perfect also. I was doing a few videos for a friend that was
doing some random BMX stuff also. Worked good and was able to send them to my friends for them to use as they want.
So what good is a phone if it has crappy call quality. I have used many different phones as previously noted and to be quite honest this is one of the most clear call qualities I have ever had. I have called friends on different carriers and different devices and all said that I sound clear and I was not muffled and using speaker phone was the same thing just fully clear. On my end calls came through clear and wasnt muffled also sounded amazing with the speaker phone. Both spearks are clear and allow you to turn the phone up quite a bit if need be. Another very good quality.
Signal Strength is awsome I have not had any dropped calls and seem to be running in Hspa+ and HSPDA. I have gotten signal in a few areas where I previously
would not have been able to.
So the last thing and one of the most important is Battery life. It is something that could be better. I have tuned setting and the phone seems to only get me through about 7 or 8 hours with minimal texting and internet browsing and a few phone calls that come up to less then 1 hour. This is alright but is not the best. I was able to get a 12 hour day out of my Captivate but this is something I can work around and that isnt a big issue for me beacuse I am normally out for that time and have a tendancy to charge my phone multiple times a day without even thinking about it. So for some people this may be a major negative but for me not so much.
So overall I have fallen in love with this phone and am happy with it. I will be posting some benchmark scores here soon. I will continue using this phone and can not see any issues with what I used to have.

[Q] Anyone has Gooapple V5+ ??

Hi I am interested in buying this phone but i haven't found any reviews of it around exept from a video from android-sale. Does anyone have this phone? Anyone tested yet? thank you!

Mine arrived yesterday from Android Sales.
First disclaimer - it doesn't come with Android 4 as advertised. Only Android 2.3.6 is installed, so I am currently pissed. Trying to contact them. I don't feel like wasting time learning how to root and install custom roms...
The tech specs seem legit - there is a 1Ghz MT6575 chip in there, retina display, etc. The camera seems good to me. The retina display is slightly faulty - it has a light shimmer on the edge, upper half only. Nothing I actually notice unless I have a black screen.
This is my first android, so I am probably not much help with anything else. It crashed on me a couple of times... nothing major, though. Had trouble with the connection, though it imrpoved when using a different SIM. Probably a combination of not so good antenna, crappy wifi and crappier carrier.

well, it supposed to have android 4, so there is a good chance they send you another phone. (perhaps goophone y5). You should contact them immediately. good luck with this!

xaikman said:
well, it supposed to have android 4, so there is a good chance they send you another phone. (perhaps goophone y5). You should contact them immediately. good luck with this!
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The specs on their site have changed, it indeed has android 2.3(.6) they say. I ordered mine the 20th of november, still waiting for it so can't help you much yet either.

Gooapple v5+
xaikman said:
Hi I am interested in buying this phone but i haven't found any reviews of it around exept from a video from android-sale. Does anyone have this phone? Anyone tested yet? thank you!
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Hello,
I have got mine couple of days back from android-sale.com (took 25 days-india). The phone looks fantastic and feels solid. Following are the few spec details:
1) Retina screen (same as iphone 4)
2) Antenna similar to iphone 4 (not 4S)
3) 8MP camera and works like charm
4) CPU MTK 6575 1GHz- Smooth UI performance
5) No chinese app. Comes pre-installed with android google play, youtube, google maps, yahoo weather app- all in english
6) Superb software- very stable and identical to iOS.
7) very good wifi and network reception.
This phone is a good value for money. However, there are certain problems
1) Batter performance is poor.
2) Very small amount of internal space left (~ 15MB). You can't install many apps. After installing couple of apps device memory goes full.
3) Due to the space crunch heavy apps like facebook, skype etc. eventally shut down.
4) Boot up screen show android logo instead of apple (not a big issue)
All in all the phone built quality is great and considering the price its among the best iphone 4 clone available in the market.
Hope this will help you. If you have any question you can ask without any hesitation.
Luck

rafkhan said:
Hello,
I have got mine couple of days back from android-sale.com (took 25 days-india). The phone looks fantastic and feels solid. Following are the few spec details:
1) Retina screen (same as iphone 4)
2) Antenna similar to iphone 4 (not 4S)
3) 8MP camera and works like charm
4) CPU MTK 6575 1GHz- Smooth UI performance
5) No chinese app. Comes pre-installed with android google play, youtube, google maps, yahoo weather app- all in english
6) Superb software- very stable and identical to iOS.
7) very good wifi and network reception.
This phone is a good value for money. However, there are certain problems
1) Batter performance is poor.
2) Very small amount of internal space left (~ 15MB). You can't install many apps. After installing couple of apps device memory goes full.
3) Due to the space crunch heavy apps like facebook, skype etc. eventally shut down.
4) Boot up screen show android logo instead of apple (not a big issue)
All in all the phone built quality is great and considering the price its among the best iphone 4 clone available in the market.
Hope this will help you. If you have any question you can ask without any hesitation.
Luck
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Hello I'm very interested in the phone and what you said about the pros and cons. Do you solve some of the cons like the small intern memory or the Android boot logo our the ending of some bigger Apps? Do you think the internal memory would be better on a Goophone y5 our a thunderbird 4s? I want to have a iPhone 4 clone as second phone but I want to have the most important Apps on out too. My first phone is an original galaxy s2 and apart of the multiple crush boots its a good one but the design of the ip4 is awesome and I want it to have Android. So maybe you can help me about my decision. Greetings Chris
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rafinitiate71018 said:
Hello,
I have got mine couple of days back from android-sale.com (took 25 days-india). The phone looks fantastic and feels solid. Following are the few spec details:
1) Retina screen (same as iphone 4)
2) Antenna similar to iphone 4 (not 4S)
3) 8MP camera and works like charm
4) CPU MTK 6575 1GHz- Smooth UI performance
5) No chinese app. Comes pre-installed with android google play, youtube, google maps, yahoo weather app- all in english
6) Superb software- very stable and identical to iOS.
7) very good wifi and network reception.
This phone is a good value for money. However, there are certain problems
1) Batter performance is poor.
2) Very small amount of internal space left (~ 15MB). You can't install many apps. After installing couple of apps device memory goes full.
3) Due to the space crunch heavy apps like facebook, skype etc. eventally shut down.
4) Boot up screen show android logo instead of apple (not a big issue)
All in all the phone built quality is great and considering the price its among the best iphone 4 clone available in the market.
Hope this will help you. If you have any question you can ask without any hesitation.
Luck
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Hello I'm very interested in the phone and what you said about the pros and cons. Do you solve some of the cons like the small intern memory or the Android boot logo or the ending of some bigger Apps? Do you think the internal memory would be better on a Goophone y5 or a thunderbird 4s? I want to have a iPhone 4 clone as second phone but I want to have the most important Apps on it too. My first phone is an original galaxy s2 and apart of the multiple crush boots its a good one but the design of the ip4 is awesome and I want it to have Android. So maybe you can help me about my decision. Greetings Chris

Hi Could you please tell me which colour do you have and if its white what does the home button look like is it white or looking a bit transparent?
Greetings Chris!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda app-developers app

Hello man do you own a white or a black one? What do you think is it possible to use it all day long? What about the battery and are there China Apps on it? What about play store, you tube ...are the real ones on it?
Greetings Chris!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda app-developers app

I've got the GooApple V5+ too from android-sale.com but since 12 december and it's working pretty well for me. I've done some research on it and found some cool things and some things that rafkhan can be fixed.
1. The bootlogo is apple for me but sometimes it changes to Android for an unknown reason.
2. The battery works pretty good for me, it just depends what you have running on the background. I can use it for 1 day and a half maybe? But I usually just use it normal, then play a game for like 30 mins and at night I always recharge it.
3. The low internal issue can be fixed. I changed mine to 2.15 gb check my Signature for that.
4. The phone can be rooted so thats not a problem either.
5. I placed my GooApple V5+ next to a friends / brothers iphone 4s and each time, they think mine is the real one , untill I show the back which shows GooApple haha.
So yeah , I'm pretty much content with this phone.
I'm also trying a lot of stuff like when you go into USB Storage Mode, it shows the android logo, I wanna change this to the iphone kind.
If I do anything nicely, I'll add it to my Signature.
The only cons I have is:
The back shows GooApple -> Can be fixed by buying a real back cover.
The phone doesn't have Dutch (Language in Belgium / Netherlands) -> English ain't a big problem personally
The USB Storage Mode is like Android -> Changing that soon !
I'm even ordering a new one for a friend of mine cause he was pretty jealous

bOyka8 said:
I've got the GooApple V5+ too from android-sale.com but since 12 december and it's working pretty well for me. I've done some research on it and found some cool things and some things that rafkhan can be fixed.
1. The bootlogo is apple for me but sometimes it changes to Android for an unknown reason.
2. The battery works pretty good for me, it just depends what you have running on the background. I can use it for 1 day and a half maybe? But I usually just use it normal, then play a game for like 30 mins and at night I always recharge it.
3. The low internal issue can be fixed. I changed mine to 2.15 gb check my Signature for that.
4. The phone can be rooted so thats not a problem either.
5. I placed my GooApple V5+ next to a friends / brothers iphone 4s and each time, they think mine is the real one , untill I show the back which shows GooApple haha.
So yeah , I'm pretty much content with this phone.
I'm also trying a lot of stuff like when you go into USB Storage Mode, it shows the android logo, I wanna change this to the iphone kind.
If I do anything nicely, I'll add it to my Signature.
The only cons I have is:
The back shows GooApple -> Can be fixed by buying a real back cover.
The phone doesn't have Dutch (Language in Belgium / Netherlands) -> English ain't a big problem personally
The USB Storage Mode is like Android -> Changing that soon !
I'm even ordering a new one for a friend of mine cause he was pretty jealous
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Hello man I'm very thankful for your fast response. As I can read the Gooapple therms to be one of the best clones and with little work it can become even better. Is yours a white or black one I'd its the white one what does the home button look like is it real white like pin the Android Sale video our is it greyish like the other ones was the original google play installed and functional and is there a possibility to get a original looking gallery. What's about the performance and the velocity of the cam and the look of the photos. Thanks for answering.
Greetings Chris!

Hey Chris, I asked some person which was the best iphone 4s replica atm and he responded with the GooApple V5+ so I bought it and still don't regret it !
I do regret that I haven't bought the 32gb but I recently bought me a Kingston 32gb SD Card (class 10) so that has been solved for me too.
Mine is black but you have to know that you can change everything, yup everything of the phone ! The original iphone 4/4s things (cases, covers, usb charchers etc.. can be used on this phone as it's such a good replica. So even if it is grey, you can buy yourself a real iphone 4s white button and put it in there yourself but I don't know how to remove the cover, as I haven't tried yet
It will most likely be a lot like how you remove the cover on the real iphone.
I think it is the original Google Play yeah and it works pretty good ! Have found everything I needed.
About the original looking gallery, there is someone who made it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880314&page=24) but you have to look around to find the link.
The photos are very good itself when it's light enough. But I did compare the real iphone 4s with the GooApple V5+ and the iphone 4s is a bit smoother then the gooapple when moving around but who the hell takes pictures while moving right ..
If you have more questions , shoot !

bOyka8 said:
Hey Chris, I asked some person which was the best iphone 4s replica atm and he responded with the GooApple V5+ so I bought it and still don't regret it !
I do regret that I haven't bought the 32gb but I recently bought me a Kingston 32gb SD Card (class 10) so that has been solved for me too.
Mine is black but you have to know that you can change everything, yup everything of the phone ! The original iphone 4/4s things (cases, covers, usb charchers etc.. can be used on this phone as it's such a good replica. So even if it is grey, you can buy yourself a real iphone 4s white button and put it in there yourself but I don't know how to remove the cover, as I haven't tried yet
It will most likely be a lot like how you remove the cover on the real iphone.
I think it is the original Google Play yeah and it works pretty good ! Have found everything I needed.
About the original looking gallery, there is someone who made it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880314&page=24) but you have to look around to find the link.
The photos are very good itself when it's light enough. But I did compare the real iphone 4s with the GooApple V5+ and the iphone 4s is a bit smoother then the gooapple when moving around but who the hell takes pictures while moving right ..
If you have more questions , shoot !
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Man thanks a lot you´re the biggest help for me.:good:
Could you please tell me if there are two different kinds of design for the gooapple v5+, one like the ip4 and one like the ip4s?
Because on the original gooapple homepage it looks like you can choose between those two design options.
It isn´t that important for me but if I could choose between the two I would choose the ip4 design. The reason is that the gooapple v5+ has a mtk 6575 with 1,0 Ghz and no Siri so its comparable with the ip4. And the ip4s has double the processor speed and siri. So if someone realizes that I have an ip4s and the one is interested in the phone he would like to have an example how good siri works and I can´t show him. So if it would like an ip4 he wouldn´t ask. Sorry for the stupidity as I said it´s no reason to buy another phone just a thought.
Do you think if you buy the one with the 8gb memory and you change it with a 32gb sd card you can also manage to get 2.15gb of rom like you have it?
I want to buy the white one with the smallest memory because external SD cards are less expensive in the moment but I´m not sure now.
Many Greetings!

I don't know what to compare the V5+ to the most, 4 or 4S.. My brother has a 4S though but I'm liking the one I have so I don't bother too much at comparing xd
But people have told me that the antenna is more like the 4 so I think its actually more based on the 4 (GooApple V5+).
There is something similar to Siri for Android like Andi and Skyvi.
And yeah I think it's better if you get the 8gb one and later buy a 32gb (high class for ex class 10) as I think the standard 32gb they give won't be as good as the one you can buy yourself for almost the same price.
+ If I were you, I wouldn't choose the original iphone back cover if I were you. You can buy it later & cheaper with other things like an original iphone recharcher or a car recharcher or something.
As I noticed my USB recharche cable got damaged pretty fast. I can't get into USB Storage mode anymore with it but it still recharches, so I use that one for recharching at night or in my car.

Goophone Y5 or Gooapple v5+
chrisrock782003 said:
Hello I'm very interested in the phone and what you said about the pros and cons. Do you solve some of the cons like the small intern memory or the Android boot logo our the ending of some bigger Apps? Do you think the internal memory would be better on a Goophone y5 our a thunderbird 4s? I want to have a iPhone 4 clone as second phone but I want to have the most important Apps on out too. My first phone is an original galaxy s2 and apart of the multiple crush boots its a good one but the design of the ip4 is awesome and I want it to have Android. So maybe you can help me about my decision. Greetings Chris
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Hello I'm very interested in the phone and what you said about the pros and cons. Do you solve some of the cons like the small intern memory or the Android boot logo or the ending of some bigger Apps? Do you think the internal memory would be better on a Goophone y5 or a thunderbird 4s? I want to have a iPhone 4 clone as second phone but I want to have the most important Apps on it too. My first phone is an original galaxy s2 and apart of the multiple crush boots its a good one but the design of the ip4 is awesome and I want it to have Android. So maybe you can help me about my decision. Greetings Chris
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Hello chris,
Sorry for the late response. In my opinion and whatever research I've done I find goophone Y5 is a better iphone 4S clone (see mayiandjay reviews on youtube). It has the best community support, custom roms and root options. You can tweak the memory storage on goophone Y5. However, Gooapple is cheaper and its factory software is more stable. Im working on the memory part. I have a black version and it is gorgeous and flawless. I cant tell about the white version.

rafkhan said:
Hello chris,
Sorry for the late response. In my opinion and whatever research I've done I find goophone Y5 is a better iphone 4S clone (see mayiandjay reviews on youtube). It has the best community support, custom roms and root options. You can tweak the memory storage on goophone Y5. However, Gooapple is cheaper and its factory software is more stable. Im working on the memory part. I have a black version and it is gorgeous and flawless. I cant tell about the white version.
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Hello thanks for your response. Another member can give you advise for the memory problem. I don't think that the Goophone is the better phone because without rooting you will have a bunch of Chinese Apps and no functional google play store. The backcover is made of plastic and the display is not the original iPhone one. I think and I hope that if enough people have the Gooapple v5 + the support will get better.
Greetings Chris!

chrisrock782003 said:
Hello thanks for your response. Another member can give you advise for the memory problem. I don't think that the Goophone is the better phone because without rooting you will have a bunch of Chinese Apps and no functional google play store. The backcover is made of plastic and the display is not the original iPhone one. I think and I hope that if enough people have the Gooapple v5 + the support will get better.
Greetings Chris!
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I have to agree with you , the gooapple V5+ is pretty new and its from china so it's pretty hard to get support right now..
But as you read before, it's already rooted, the internal memory can already be increased, soon I'll have another gooapple V5+ of a friend and I might upload the stock rom that comes with it.
So yeah just give it a bit more time and the gooapple V5+ will be pretty known.
& Currently on china-iphone.ru and gooapple forum you can get the most support but it's really hard as it took me 2-3 weeks to find out how to root it. And it's just a couple seconds method x)
I did find another issue I have which could be a lack of knowledge. I can't seem to get the GPS working properly x) as I want to use it offline as a real GPS.

As I told Boyka I ordered mine on the 15th of February after Android Sales holidays. Anything seems to work normal but after I asked for a tracking number they where telling me that its no more in stock by now. I asked for the t.n.after 5 days because I paid 30$ for expedited shipping and it should last 6 to 10 days in complete. So if I haven't had asked I wouldn't knew till now. I would anyone to know that the white one with 8 GB must be out of stock in the moment they will tell me when its back in stock and they send me mine.
So to all wait a few said before you order it.
Greetings to ya from chrisrock

[Q] Opinions on device for 7 year old - performance and price

I'm not sure if this is the right forum...but...
So, I have an 8GB Nexus 7 that my 7 year old has been using. Before that I had a rooted Nook Color with MIUI GB on it. The Nook was just too slow for all the games, the Nexus has been awesome. That said, the other day he had some app on there that had a pretend chain saw - so, you pull the "cord" on the saw, and it starts. This is by doing the actual motion with your arm while holding the Nexus. You can all guess what happened next. It still works with it's cracked screen, but, not fully.
So, it got me to thinking - if I get him something else - I need to have it in some pretty foolproof enclosure. I always see iphones with serious cases on them. So, I started thinking maybe I should get a used phone and use it as wi fi only - but have to find a balance between a device that performs well and has a good sticker price. The 7 I got for 150.00 used on swappa. It might just make more sense to get another gently used 7 - even if it has scuffs on it, better than what he has!
So, open to ideas (and if a mod wants to move this thread, be my guest). I've thought about and older generation ipod touch - but prefer to stick with Android. Also thought about something like an incredible 2, even a droid x wouldn't be bad.
Thanks!

MrRedPants said:
I'm not sure if this is the right forum...but...
So, I have an 8GB Nexus 7 that my 7 year old has been using. Before that I had a rooted Nook Color with MIUI GB on it. The Nook was just too slow for all the games, the Nexus has been awesome. That said, the other day he had some app on there that had a pretend chain saw - so, you pull the "cord" on the saw, and it starts. This is by doing the actual motion with your arm while holding the Nexus. You can all guess what happened next. It still works with it's cracked screen, but, not fully.
So, it got me to thinking - if I get him something else - I need to have it in some pretty foolproof enclosure. I always see iphones with serious cases on them. So, I started thinking maybe I should get a used phone and use it as wi fi only - but have to find a balance between a device that performs well and has a good sticker price. The 7 I got for 150.00 used on swappa. It might just make more sense to get another gently used 7 - even if it has scuffs on it, better than what he has!
So, open to ideas (and if a mod wants to move this thread, be my guest). I've thought about and older generation ipod touch - but prefer to stick with Android. Also thought about something like an incredible 2, even a droid x wouldn't be bad.
Thanks!
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My daughter has the Nook Tablet for her three year old (sheesh!) and I told her to get an Otterbox case for it for protection. It's held up well so far, so you might want to consider that. I think a new 7 would be better than any phone just because of the larger screen.

The new replacement phone for LG V20 is FINALLY here?

After many years, and a lot of looking around - I think we finally have a new replacement for the LG V20. I just got it not long ago, so I still need to use it as my daily phone.
I have already rooted the phone with Magisk which there is already is an unofficial guide to and still setting it up, so is the small German company of Shift as they are still working on the software - they have 2 stocks in production, Android 10 Google version and Android 10 without Google.
The phone has the 3 essential as I call them, removeable battery, Micro SD and Jack phone! Although it is somewhat costly compared to a used LG V20 phone - but if anyone wants an upgrade on the CPU and Graphic, Internal storage, RAM and so forth, this is the way to go.
Ordering the phone should come quickly now, as the wait time should be over as they have been sending them out for the last couple of months - so there should not be any big wait time for it now.
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Shift Shop | SHIFT6mq (preorder) (shiftphones.com)
I was looking on the Fairphone 3 and Shift 6mq - I actually ended up just going for another used LG V20, but because of the nonsense of Corona I could not get a new LG V20 from Hongkong and the phone was never sold in Europe. In any case I had to bite the bigger price and the Fairphone 3 was disqualified because of only 64GB internal, I knew I had to have an upgrade on that as I am easily filling it with stuff. The only option although pricy was the Shift6mq - But I needed a new phone as the old LG V20 was dying more and more each and every day. So I ordered it a good amount of month ago, and now it is finally arrived.
I have just installed the Light version of there System without Google and rooted it - I have yet to use it in daily life but it looks good. I have benchmarked it against the LG V20 and not surprisingly it beats it with ease. There are of cause some negative things as well, battery can be somewhat tough to get out of the phone, I used some sandpaper on the bottom of the batteries that seemed to do the work to easier taking them out. They surely stick in the mobile when they are in there, which is not a bad thing, but a little less strong would have been nice. Again, it seems to work with some fine sandpaper, to ease this issue. Maybe it will work itself out with use over time, but... Well... Sandpaper seemed to work
I also have a Camera issue it seems, whereas the front camera is pointing somewhat upward, but it seems to be just my unit and not the norm, there could be 2 solutions to this and have to work that out at some point. But the Camera is working so it is not a big biggie, just annoying.
The internal speaker does seems somewhat weaker then the LG V20, but the phone jack, does well with my speakers, so no problem there.
That is the first impressions I have with it... I think this will be my next phone for the next 5 years, just some stuff to sort out and move all my applications over to it. I though you LG V20 users would like to know that there is now an alternative, with greater CPU and Graphics and Internal memory available, would love to see more people coming over to grow it up in the right direction and helping each other!
And supporting a small company, although not perfect in any way, at least it still stands on some sanity, with a degoogled system and the 3 essential important things for a mobile.
You don't need the plastic cover either, you can use the protection cover only without any issues - if you do not need the payment thing that is in it, personally I never used it myself.
If anyone have any questions in regards of it, just shoot! But I am still new to the phone - so I have yet used it as my daily driver, but I'm getting there! Just had to sort out the rooting and see what could do, break it down and such. It was many hoops to do, but now that I know, I can help others if you have any issues on those part
Sadly a lot of German, they have a forum and they speak mostly German - but, we can get an English Community as well around it I am sure, and help each other. Beside there are tools for translating
Dearly regards
- Darkijah
P.S you get a Screwdriver with your phone, as they have focus on taking it apart and fixing it yourself and such. So the Phone is designed with that in mind. No Charger as most have chargers already to use, but a Screwdriver
Although it seems to charge as "fast" or slow as the LG V20, around 2:30 hour as far as my testing goes for now. Sadly no external chargers for batteries like the V20 had, at least not for now. I had 2 of these chargers for my LG V20 and have used them a lot. Shift may have something up there sleeve for it, but time will tell.

Will this work on Verizon?

baldybill said:
Will this work on Verizon?
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No idea, don't even know what it is... Some kind of streaming to TV?... It's standard Android 10, so... if it is an Application for streaming I would think so, but really, have no idea.

It's a cell phone service in the USA. (along with AT&T, Spring, TMobile, etc.)
What cell phone services does this phone work on?

These are the phone's supported bands:
LTE Frequenzbänder: FDD-LTE B1 / B3 / B7 / B20 / B28, TDD-LTE B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
3G Frequenzbänder: UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA: B1 / B2 / B3 / B5 / B8, CDMA (800, 1900, 2100Mhz), TD-SCDMA (1900, 2000Mhz)
T-Mobile LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71) is out. AT&T LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 14, 17, 29, 30, 66) is out. Verizon LTE (2, 4, 5, 13, 46, 48, 66) is out.
The only LTE band supported by any US carrier is Sprint on 41 and one band is not anything to safely rely on long-term following the T-Mobile merger.

Ahhh I have no idea @baldybill but @Snakecharmed seemed to give you the answer. Not so knowledgeable on those areas. But we are all here to learn, I would think

It is already looking good, have installed the Light version and gotten it rooted - still need to move my applications over to it. But it is progressing
I did play a racing game, although I really should not - but it runs perfectly fluent compared to the LG V20 which is not a surprise. Even in the highest setting it seem to run more smooth then the lowest on the LG V20, but really somewhat unfair because of the 4-5 year differences between them. The screen itself also looks better, clear and crisp, although I have seen some issues other places when the screen is all white. But Shift are are still working on the 2 stock systems so... But the game itself was crisp and clear and overall the game was running fluently on the highest setting.
I don't think I will look much back to the LG V20 when I get this up and running as my daily driver. Although, I would like to try out Lineage on my LG V20 if possible, version 10, I am thinking it might get me closer together to have the same usability compared to each other... But maybe not...
Dunno, in any case it is looking good and promising! Finally an upgrade from the LG V20, a phone with the 3 essentials. How hard it can be for companies to do sane things these days.
exFAT is at the moment not supported by Shift 6mq but support for it should be coming! Something about some worldly stuff needed to run through... Can't remember the details. But it is on the way as I understand it. At the moment it only runs FAT32, which is kinda annoying as that only supports 4 GB files.
Anyway... As said they are still working hard on the software so... 2 systems, google and ungoogle versions.

Fully serviceable phones seem to be more popular in Europe than in the US. The Shift6mq seems to be the most advanced option I've seen so far in terms of hardware. The Snapdragon 845 is a couple of generations old, but the total package apart from audio hardware is a clear improvement over the V20. However, if I had to pick the #1 reason why I still use the V20 daily, it's the second screen.
There's no real equivalent to the Shift6mq in the US. The best option I've seen here is the Teracube 2e and between the 720p screen resolution and the MediaTek A25 chipset, it kinda sucks.

Okay, I just dropped my phone from 10-15 cm while sitting on the toilet flipping it around, although having the silicon *Or something of that kind* protection I did not think much about it really... But... My screen broke. I have never ever experienced an issue with my LG V20, actually after 4 years the screen still seems like new, and it has been dropped a good amount of times.
Yet one single minor small drop - and I now have a broken new mobile which screen is broke. I though it was the Gorilla glass at first with 2 lines of breaking but... Investigating further it seems the Gorilla is just fine - "just" the screen behind it, that is broke. And investigating further the line starts from the bottom left corner and goes up at the side, and in the middle of the screen it goes out in 2 lines. There is a minor thing as well over it in the left side.
Beside the none colors and weird colors it makes, I am pretty sure the screen is broke. I saw this guy breaking mobiles, and this seem to be the same screen issue that he gets when Jerry I think his name is, brakes the mobiles.
*Sigh* And I did not even get to use the mobile as a daily driver before it failed on me :/ I was trying to find an app that could get my applications unto it, after now being rooted and on the ungoogled version of Shift. I first tried an open source app which could not restore the backed up applications on A10, I was then at the point of it happening trying with Titanium Backup, but it needed you to push with every single Application, which actually was what did me in and made me drop it. Usual I would have laid it down once until finish, but here you had to wait for installing the app and then push again.
I think this is one of these Free features that most likely is not in the Pro version - but knowing not if the app works, I wanted to test it before maybe buying it.
Anyway... My new fresh phone from Germany is Broke... *Sigh* Terrible just Terrible. Well, at least moving forward, but if this is standard that the screen dies by so little... Well, hopefully it was just a faulty item, although I am afraid that it might not be. What is the point of Gorilla protection if the screen just blows up by itself without even touching the surface of the Gorilla glass. Seems to me that it must have been the vibrations overall that killed the screen, as it just hit the Silicon cover protecting it as it should.
Whatever the case, my new phone is RIP for now! Well, I guess it is good I got the new used LG V20 that is rooted and running! At least I can focus on that for now, it still needs some fixing, yet it is my daily driver and would be until getting the other up and running with all the apps and setup which I was closing into. But now really hit into a biggie with the new phone. Oh well...
Dearly regards
- Darkijah

Well, there was a screwdriver with the mobile and... I've just looked into repairing the screen. It does look like it won't be that hard, I hope... The whole idea with the Shift phone was that one could repair it by them self, although hopefully the screens normally don't break so quick. It could easily become expensive if one needs to buy a screen every time one drops it. Hopefully I had a faulty screen, or they might need to investigate into better screens. Like that was just way to easy to break.

Okay Carsten from Shift wanna have a look on the mobile - I will send it back and hopefully he can get something out of it. Nice to see they care about their products
Hopefully this is not a normal thing, and if it is - then I hope they get it corrected. Like 4 years without a cracking screen on my LG V20, and then just a small and first drop of the new - it ruined Only one other time have I ruined a phone, when I was in Israel and I dropped my Samsung Note 2 directly hitting a stone with the screen faced down. But it was still working at least. Actually that was the outer protection screen which broke, and not the screen itself.
Who knows, might have had a weak screen of production - in any case, they wanna have a look at it.

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better everything compaired to the v20
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can it be rooted?
other then that this might be added to your list of alt's?

A bump for anyone in a similar boat casually looking for a V20 successor and having to consider tradeoffs:
Although I'm still currently not looking to replace the V20 as my daily phone, if I had to buy a phone that has at least been announced in 2021, it would be the Sony Xperia 1 III. The main tradeoff is a non-removable battery.
Everything else is top tier in specs and it retains the removable storage and 3.5 mm jack, has USB-C 3.x, and doesn't compromise on CPU, 5G connectivity, or screen, camera, or audio quality like many of these alternatives. I generally don't care about price because I usually don't buy new phones anyway and I would hypothetically wait out the Xperia 1 III for at least half a year after release if I were to get one. The only brand new phone I've ever bought was the LG G4.
I've been getting tired of watching Asus screw people over on either the removable storage or 3.5 mm jack with both their Zenfone and ROG flagships, so I'm glad Sony finally included both in a contemporary flagship when everyone else has been allergic to these features.
Obviously, everyone has different priorities for what features are must-haves when moving on from the V20, but a non-removable battery isn't a dealbreaker to me as long as replacing it doesn't cause permanent cosmetic damage to the exterior. Rootability isn't very important to me anymore either after seeing how my Galaxy Tab S4 hasn't made me miss root much thanks to Blokada and YouTube Vanced.

i have no idea if this is a good option as i am not intelligent enough to read German
Shift Shop | SHIFT6m
SHIFT6m
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if anyone here is looking for a v20 replacement can you translate this to 'MURICAN so a simple guy can understand?
i am wanting to know if it is rooted, can it be rooted, the battery replacement (4240mah) options such as who makes the original and can i get more for replacements or upgrades, and...the rest i can gather from the wiki page
Shift6m - Wikipedia
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zeroderp said:
i have no idea if this is a good option as i am not intelligent enough to read German
Shift Shop | SHIFT6m
SHIFT6m
shop.shiftphones.com
if anyone here is looking for a v20 replacement can you translate this to 'MURICAN so a simple guy can understand?
i am wanting to know if it is rooted, can it be rooted, the battery replacement (4240mah) options such as who makes the original and can i get more for replacements or upgrades, and...the rest i can gather from the wiki page
Shift6m - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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Do you expect to use this device as a phone in the US? Because the exact same thing I mentioned about the 6mq's compatibility with US carriers applies to the 6m.

haha, that's hilarious. Was just looking at that phone for a replacement, too.
The screen issue is that the v20 had a p-oled, LGs plastic substrate led (the amoleds have a glass layer over the led plates). I wonder who is actually going to take up that in the business now. Presumably LG will be making more of these gorgeous screens (..last one was in the Velvet, I guess?). But the amoleds are a bit more expensive to make, while they are typically even more expensive to purchase (meaning: better margins). So that's going to push them out of the market, just like the lithium polymer batteries were for .. gods.. 15-20 years. There's still phones with organic batteries - that you can't change - that are sold right now, in extremely expensive phones.
So it's a bit difficult to find an actually good phone that will last a bit right now.. Kind of wondering if that will ever actually change, unless someone who knows about tech, and also has enough money to just say **** it, starts making actually good phones - and sell them at the price-range they actually cost to make. Xiaomi, or some other more domestic Chinese brand might be the best bet, to be perfectly honest..

UIQrules said:
Presumably LG will be making more of these gorgeous screens
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LG just announced it will not be making the mobile phones anymore. Done. Lol, like you said, someone said "**** it", just that they stopped making phones. I think it is sad.

Don't buy the Shift phone 6mq.
The screen broke again and got lots of issues overall with it. Back on an old "new" LG V20 phone non rooted.
I had so much hope for this but it sucks.
- Darkijah

Jesus is God Almighty said:
Don't buy the Shift phone 6mq.
The screen broke again and got lots of issues overall with it. Back on an old "new" LG V20 phone non rooted.
I had so much hope for this but it sucks.
- Darkijah
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Thanks for an update on the Shift phone. THe LG V20 is truly a special phone, it has everything I could ask for, though not 100% executed with perfection (for example, LG was very innovative to include the "notched" 2nd screen, however I'd rather it be uniform... be it LCD, or nowadays everything is OLED).
3 things that the LG v20 has that we probably won't see emphasized again are: (1)IR blaster(great to use as a smart remote!), (2)user replaceable battery(just swap and go, so convenient... and when the battery is no longer holding charge, it's just so easy to put in a fresh battery... no pulling the phone apart or dealing with resealing, etc.), (3) amplified quad dac 3.5mm jack(not just any 3.5 jack, but a high performing one!).... of course there is the expandable memory too...
Such a beast of a phone that we may not see come back again... unless some wealthy and passionate crowd funders came together to re-release such a phone(in addition to modern and updated SOC's, I'd like to see upgraded cameras... but the fundamentals need to remain: 3.5mm quad dac, user replaceable battery, IR blaster, expandable storage).