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[Q] 4G mobile network still connected when Wifi is ON?!

So my phone just started showing this behavior like a day or two ago. It's doing it right now. Both my Wifi and 4G icons appear in the notification bar. The 4G icon isn't showing activity (the download and upload arrows are dimmed), BUT if I go to my "Phone Info" app, and go to Phone Information it shows:
GSM service: In service
GPRS service: Connected
Network Type: HSDPA
Before whenever I was on Wifi only the Wifi icon would show up, and Phone Info would show GPRS Service as : Disconnected, i.e. normal behavior. Now it appears there is a conflict somewhere and the 4G network is showing as connected even when wifi is on.
Now, I did make some changes recently:
1) Temp-rooted and pm disabled a bunch of bloatware - this was like 4 or 5 days ago and I didn't have the problem at all so I'm not sure if it's related.
2) I unchecked Wireless Settings > Mobile Networks > "Enable always on mobile data" - Thought it might save battery when in sleep mode.
I think the problem started after #2. I've since checked that option back on, restarted, airplane mode, battery pull etc., but it's still exhibiting the same behavior. I've never seen this happen on any of my past Android devices (a lot). If I go to the Quick Settings it shoes Mobile Network is OFF but it IS checked. It's really confusing. When you turn Wifi on, Mobile network should disconnect, but according to phone Info, mine is on and I've been getting "network issue, try again" in the Market, and "Network Communication issues" in the Speedtest app so clearly something is being affected.
This has been my ONLY problem with my Sensation thus far, and the fact that it JUST started doing this makes me wonder what I could have done to affect it.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Every once in awhile the 4G icon WILL disappear leaving only Wifi on, and Phone info shows GPRS service: Disconnected, but eventually the 4G/2G icon comes back and Phone info shows GPRS service: Connected, so it keeps trying/turning itself on even though my Wifi is connected. WTF!

If you're on a t mo device it's because of the my device app. Open and close it or end the process in system panel and it should fix the problem.

I believe this is somewhat normal...
I have voice only plan and disabled data through the *#*#INFO#*#* menus. The only way I can get data is through Wifi, which I always have enabled, regardless when I go to About Phone -> Network, I see mobile network type HSDPA.
It seems like voice is going through the 3G/4G but not any data. Not sure why you do get the 4G popping up, I sure don't.

Sdobron said:
If you're on a t mo device it's because of the my device app. Open and close it or end the process in system panel and it should fix the problem.
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Thanks! I tracked down the second package name for "My Account" (one is for My Account, one is for My device), disabled and rebooted. So far so good; Wifi is connected, no 4G icon, and Phone info shows GPRS service: Disconnected as it should. I had already disabled one package but not the other. I can live w/o the My account feature for a bit and I'll keep an eye out to see if the problem returns.

bigmase521 said:
Thanks! I tracked down the second package name for "My Account" (one is for My Account, one is for My device), disabled and rebooted. So far so good; Wifi is connected, no 4G icon, and Phone info shows GPRS service: Disconnected as it should. I had already disabled one package but not the other. I can live w/o the My account feature for a bit and I'll keep an eye out to see if the problem returns.
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You phone will always connect to data whn using Tmobile apps such as my account app. Its because they need network data, not web data, to get their info like your usage, and billing. If you manually shut of data and turn wifi on and try to open the my account app, it will give you error.
Just because you turn Wifi on, it doesnt make the data shut off. It just connects to WIFI because its a stronger signal. It will still access the 4G data for netork required information. You can manually shut off mobile data and then turn on wifi if you want.

^This is true, I'm manually switching 4G off when connected to WiFi.

dubie76 said:
You phone will always connect to data whn using Tmobile apps such as my account app. Its because they need network data, not web data, to get their info like your usage, and billing. If you manually shut of data and turn wifi on and try to open the my account app, it will give you error.
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I realize this, however I was never trying to use the T-mobile apps.
dubie76 said:
Just because you turn Wifi on, it doesnt make the data shut off. It just connects to WIFI because its a stronger signal. It will still access the 4G data for netork required information. You can manually shut off mobile data and then turn on wifi if you want.
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Of course it does. What would be the point in having BOTH Wifi and 4g/3g/EDGE data on at the same time, all the time? That would be a HUGE drain on your battery if it were constantly using both radios and connected to/searching for both networks. When you turn Wifi on, the mobile data radio gets turned off. When you de-activate Wifi, mobile data turns back on. This is why you get much better battery life on Wifi because the 4g/3g radio gets turned off. Plus, both can't be connected at the same time or else there would be routing problems i.e., it would get confused as to which connection to use.
This is exactly what happened to my phone in that that both WERE on at the same time and it was causing no traffic to get in/out and I couldn't figure out why. Disabling the two t-mobile My Account packages solved it so it seems like
one was trying to connect in the background and couldn't but then froze the radio state. I'm not gonna re-enable the app to confirm but IIRC when you're on Wifi and fire up the My Account app, it either prompts you to turn off wifi, or it just disables wifi temporarily and fires up the mobile radio in the background, and re-enables when you're done.

Sdobron said:
If you're on a t mo device it's because of the my device app. Open and close it or end the process in system panel and it should fix the problem.
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Yep. If you keep the T-Mobile my account app running it will do that cause It needs the 4G/Data connection.

xamadeix said:
Yep. If you keep the T-Mobile my account app running it will do that cause It needs the 4G/Data connection.
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Right, but what I'm saying is that I wasn't running the app. It does run as a service though so I'm wondering if it was trying to connect on it's own in the background, though I'm not sure why. I haven't seen this behavior on any other devices including my Sensation before I disabled one of the My Account apps, but I'm almost positive at this point it was the culprit. Could be because I had only disabled one of them and not both. After I disabled the second, the problem went away.

Do you have WiFi sleep disabled?
If not, phone may revert to regular data until you start communicating and wake up your WiFi.
Just a thought.
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PaulGiz said:
Do you have WiFi sleep disabled?
If not, phone may revert to regular data until you start communicating and wake up your WiFi.
Just a thought.
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Nope, sleep policy is set to "Never" and wifi sticks fine. Still happened even with screen on so wifi was def. awake. I fixed it by disabling the T-Mo My Account apps so I'm cool but maybe it can help someone else if they have the same problem. It's really weird, never seen it happen before. I wish I took a video of it before I disabled the apps. Thanks guys.

bigmase521 said:
Right, but what I'm saying is that I wasn't running the app. It does run as a service though so I'm wondering if it was trying to connect on it's own in the background, though I'm not sure why. I haven't seen this behavior on any other devices including my Sensation before I disabled one of the My Account apps, but I'm almost positive at this point it was the culprit. Could be because I had only disabled one of them and not both. After I disabled the second, the problem went away.
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It's poor coding in the app. Nothing you're doing wrong.

Data Network Shuts off....

So, my friend recently got this phone...
Its not even a week since he bought it....
We use WhatsApp Messenger to chat but there is one problem.
His Data Network is always on but when he going to sleep he keeps his Data Network "ON" but it actually goes into something like sleep mode....
My messages don't get delivered to him via WhatsApp.....
It's like every time he turns off his phones display, his Data Network goes onto sleep mode, doesn't matter What time of the day it is......
Does anyone have had this problem before and is there any solution to it?

By default the background data is switched off. You can change it in the setting.
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Atrix 2 known wifi problems?

I have an Atrix 2. It has been replaced twice by AT&T due to this problem. I have factory reset each phone and tried every battery mode, data saver, sleep policy and wifi channel.
The problem:
The wifi turns off by itself! not sleep, off! As in the checked box is unchecked. The phone does it during use and when not being used. The timing between instances is random. The wifi sometimes stays on for hours. Other times it wont last five minutes. I have 4 other wifi devices connected by wifi to my secured router.
Note: I travel across the country for work and the problem occurs at airports, hotels, mcdonalds, ect.
I have called Motorola and their only option is to send it to the with no replacement. I could use some help. I have been searching online and others with this problem dont persist, they simply state that unsecuring their router fixed the problem. That is not an option for me as the routers are not mine.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Hi, I recently noticed this problem started after I installed the ATT Smart Wi-FI app. Mine will connect then turn off, wait a second turn back on then I get the WIFI networks avail message and I check it and it's not connecting to the network til I tell it too then it will stay connected all day.

I"ve had my atrix 2 for about a little over a month. It's doing the same thing. Wifi will randomly shut off. I have to go into the settings to turn it back on. It will work fine for a little while then just shuts off again. Does anyone know if this seems to be hardware or software related. I've tried different apps and WiFi sleep settings to no avail. I really like the atrix but this is kind of annoying.

I have the same issue also, except I have top reboot my phone for wifi to work again.
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i have the same problem, it's not my wifi connection, but the actual wifi setting turns off whenever i turn off my screen and yes, i've set the wifi sleep policy to "never", so that's not the problem. i've also tried "never when plugged in" and "when screen turns off" and i still get the same problem. i was thinking about going to at&t and asking them about it but decided to come here first.
(a white iphone 4 is looking better and better ) can anyone help?

I had this problem but after I disabled the power saver option under battery and data (set it back to performance) it went away and Wi-Fi works perfect.

Tried different battery saver settings as well, nothing changed.
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S6 sinds 5.1.1 not always active in sleep mode?

Since upgrading my S6 to 5.1.1 my S6 seems to put apps to sleep with screen off, but not always.
So twitter for example is still receiving updates.
But Whatsapp not always, so sometimes need to open the app before it receives its messages.
Same goes for the web app from whatsapp, when the phone goes to sleep after 1 min +/-'s the app goes to sleep and the web app loses its connection.
This was never the case before the upgrade and is insanely annoying.
The keep wifi alive while asleep is on....
Tried the option under #*011* for the wifi power management, but does not seem to fix it.
As twitter still works it also seems to be something else?
Anyone know this problem and better yet how to fix it?

Go to recovery mode and wipe cache.

I have the exact same issue. My messages wont load untill i wake up / unlock the phones.
It can be anything.
Whats app
LIne messages
Kakao messages
nothing loads unless i unlock the phone.
I am selling my s6 tomorrwo for G4. This is my second S6 that isnt working properly. First one had simcard issue. This one has wifi issue.
To me it seems like its a wifi issue. Try if you face the same issue when on Data network ?
Sigh...

Did that, did not fix it.

Notifications coming in at the same time.

So I just got the phone a few days ago and I've started to notice some strange happenings. Whenever I get notifications for my apps or messages they always come at the same time. Say I have a text message come in, it will then push facebook or something like that and show messages that I have from the messenger app. Is this normal behavior?

@Demonlinx This has been happening since the first day for me too. I've noticed this only happens when I'm on WiFi, if I'm on data I get my push notifications the moment they happen (all except Google hangouts for some odd reason). I don't have the Facebook app installed but this is a constant annoyance I've been dealing with for a while now, it seems as if when the screen is off its not pulling in data when connected to WiFi, but as soon as I get a text message or turn the screen on my notifications come rushing in all at the same time. Are you on WiFi too when you notice this happening? Or is it all the time?

@elpindian Ok, so I noticed that this happens only when I'm on WiFi as well.. Although it seems intermittent because I've been getting other notifications via a wifi connection, i.e Twitter, Snapchat, etc.. So I'm not sure what is causing this issue. I'll keep trying to mess around with it and see what I come up with.. Are you stock? Do you have connection optimizer turned on? Mine is off. Tl;Dr I only notice this happening sometimes and it only happens (so far) on WiFi.
edit: I found that if I enable WiFi and Mobile Data at the same time it seems to eliminate this issue, I'm trying to test using just WiFi and seeing if the problem still exists.

elpindian said:
@Demonlinx This has been happening since the first day for me too. I've noticed this only happens when I'm on WiFi, if I'm on data I get my push notifications the moment they happen (all except Google hangouts for some odd reason). I don't have the Facebook app installed but this is a constant annoyance I've been dealing with for a while now, it seems as if when the screen is off its not pulling in data when connected to WiFi, but as soon as I get a text message or turn the screen on my notifications come rushing in all at the same time. Are you on WiFi too when you notice this happening? Or is it all the time?
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Demonlinx said:
@elpindian Ok, so I noticed that this happens only when I'm on WiFi as well.. Although it seems intermittent because I've been getting other notifications via a wifi connection, i.e Twitter, Snapchat, etc.. So I'm not sure what is causing this issue. I'll keep trying to mess around with it and see what I come up with.. Are you stock? Do you have connection optimizer turned on? Mine is off. Tl;Dr I only notice this happening sometimes and it only happens (so far) on WiFi.
edit: I found that if I enable WiFi and Mobile Data at the same time it seems to eliminate this issue, I'm trying to test using just WiFi and seeing if the problem still exists.
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Try a data reset by dialing ##72786#

@Demonlinx I am stock with no plans on rooting until there is a fully functional AOSP rom out there for our device. I have disabled connection optimizer as well, but haven't turned data off even while on WiFi. Is there a specific setting to do this besides the disabling data option? I never turn my data off since I have unlimited, does connecting to WiFi automatically turn off data? Because I know if I did turn it off I wouldn't be able to receive MMS and I definitely still get all my MMS with no problems.. Snapchat and twitter have delayed notifications when I'm on WiFi but work flawlessly when I'm only on data.
@Soooperstar thanks man but I've been told by a Sprint and Samsung rep before to try that and still I have these issues... Could it maybe be a problem on our router's end? I've noticed that this doesn't happen with every WiFi connection I have; i.e if I'm at my gfs house who has her at&t router vs my Comcast router.. I've also noticed that if my screen is off for more than a couple minutes while connected to WiFi my android wear watch will give me the offline message if I try and interact with it. It's as if the phone stops any internet connection while it's sleeping, somewhat annoying because I can't just walk around the house and expect to receive notifications on my wearable without waking up the phone (phone calls and texts excluded).

elpindian said:
@Demonlinx I am stock with no plans on rooting until there is a fully functional AOSP rom out there for our device. I have disabled connection optimizer as well, but haven't turned data off even while on WiFi. Is there a specific setting to do this besides the disabling data option? I never turn my data off since I have unlimited, does connecting to WiFi automatically turn off data? Because I know if I did turn it off I wouldn't be able to receive MMS and I definitely still get all my MMS with no problems.. Snapchat and twitter have delayed notifications when I'm on WiFi but work flawlessly when I'm only on data.
@Soooperstar thanks man but I've been told by a Sprint and Samsung rep before to try that and still I have these issues... Could it maybe be a problem on our router's end? I've noticed that this doesn't happen with every WiFi connection I have; i.e if I'm at my gfs house who has her at&t router vs my Comcast router.. I've also noticed that if my screen is off for more than a couple minutes while connected to WiFi my android wear watch will give me the offline message if I try and interact with it. It's as if the phone stops any internet connection while it's sleeping, somewhat annoying because I can't just walk around the house and expect to receive notifications on my wearable without waking up the phone (phone calls and texts excluded).
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Could be..... Kinda hard to troubleshoot. The only one I have a problem with is Tapatalk and XDA app. I think that one may be related

@Soooperstar it's weird, I think it has something to do with the phones deep sleep issues and Sammy has yet to figure out all the bugs. I love the build of this phone but can't stand the software. I'm ready to move on to a Nexus device when the next one releases.