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Spyware for Mobiles ???
Would be interesting to see how much I 'earn' coz GPRS is permantly off on my MDA

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15 quid a month ha
Tried to sign up with my wallaby on o2 but they say they dont want to know lol

Dont Know ,not Worth it
Installed it on my xda mini s , after a while saw its trying to connect the gprs.. canceled it .
then it sent 2 text i dont know where lol, i only had it installed for less then 10 hours and it sent 4 texts from my phone using my own PAYG credit :shock:
uninstalled it , and wont try anything like this again lol

My plan has unlimited data, so as long as it doesnt F'up the phone I will try it. Figure already got the NSA checking out my phone logs and calls, etc.. whats one more
At least if they are going to track me I get paid for them being nosy.
Not to mention since I have a HTC Universal in the U.S. maybe it will give some of the companies an idea to actually offer one here that uses EDGE. Being on the bleeding edge of technology it never hurt to help them get new ideas to improve what we got either.
Charles

Know of any truely unlimited plans?

I've got one of the 'Unlimited data' plans from ATT, but it is only unlimited by using default applications that came with the ATT rom.
Further, it does not cover unlimited for streaming video (unless using ATT's apps) nor streaming radio (unless using their subscription based XM radio)
I've a friend who recieved a $152,000 bill for streaming internet radio and and youtube video downloads.
I'm curious about finding a package, or cell carrier who can offer me FOR REAL unlimited internet. No restrictions, no surprise $152K phone bills.
Any ideas?
The whole purpose of me purchasing this phone was for a windows environment with internet access on the go. I picked Windows mobile so I could obtain general internet access for a wide variety of applications and solutions, video, gps position publishing, shoutcast radio stations. Those are liable to get me a huge phone bill from ATT, so I need to find other options.

it being an international forum you would prov benefit from stating your country
being that isp plans and the likes change from country to country
that you give prices in $ makes one believe that you are in american or aussi
but people who want to reply would benefit with knowing for sure...........

Good idea.
United States, I'm using ATT wireless currently.
The plan I have is advertised as "MEdia Max 200 Bundle" for $19.95 a month. They offer an UNLIMITED MEDIA max plan, for $39 a month, but that only changes the plan to include UNLIMITED TEXTING.
Here's the "features" of the MEDIA MAX 200 bundle.
UNLIMITED Cellular Video
Cellular Video brings you video clips of your favorite TV shows, music videos, movie trailers, comedians and sports highlights. Play high-quality news, sports, weather, and entertainment video clips on demand on your 3G phone. Plus, you can add exclusive video programming from HBO MobileSM and HBO Family MobileSM.
UNLIMITED MEdia Net
With MEdia Net, you can browse the mobile web, check your Email, get your sports scores, movie times, weather and news right on your mobile phone. Plus, you can access the latest ringtones, games, graphics and AT&T Mobile Music.
200 Messages (5¢/additional messages)
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Problems with the plan
My plan PROHIBITS the following for ANY network plan.
* TELEMETRY APPLICATIONS
(I use my phone to publish my GPS location on a map for company uses.),
* AUTOMATED FUNCTIONS OR ANY OTHER MACHINE-TO-MACHINE APPLICATIONS The above mentioned GPS software I use is an automated machine to machine application, obviously.;
* WITH SERVER DEVICES OR WITH HOST COMPUTER APPLICATIONS(The server that collects my GPS location and maps it is obviously a SERVER DEVICE.)
* FOR VOICE OVER IPI need to use Skype in my job, hence why I purchased the phone, so I can use Skype mobile; (IV)
* UNLIMITED PLANS CANNOT BE USED FOR UPLOADING, DOWNLOADING OR STREAMING OF VIDEO CONTENT (E.G. MOVIES, TV), MUSIC OR GAMES.
(I can't use this device for work, and nor for pleasure it seems. Shoutcast and YouTube are STREAMING VIDEO OR AUDIO CONTENT.There goes shoutcast, or any streaming music or video if is not one of ATT's subscription based services.)
A coworker got the same plan as me for work uses. He has been nailed, and is in dispute with ATT with it. I want to avoid the trouble, vote with my money, unlock my phone and get a carrier that won't screw me.
Outside of ATT's in-phone subscription based services, and internet browser -- everything else has been made illegal per my 'UNLIMITED' plan, and is subject to charges $0.01 per kilobyte overage. The phone rocks, Windows mobile rocks, the carrier does not.

Problem is that the Tilt (I'm assuming you're using the Tilt -- from your threads on the AT&T forums) is supposed to use one of the PDA data plans -- NOT the MedaNet/MediaMAX plans. Those plans are for mobile phones -- NOT PDA's.
There's a BIG difference in how they both handle the data packets.

newbie2 said:
Problem is that the Tilt (I'm assuming you're using the Tilt -- from your threads on the AT&T forums) is supposed to use one of the PDA data plans -- NOT the MedaNet/MediaMAX plans. Those plans are for mobile phones -- NOT PDA's.
There's a BIG difference in how they both handle the data packets.
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Sorry to be so ignorant. New to the cellular world. I only got a phone with the requirements of my workplace, though I love it now!
Indeed it is the Tilt.
Seems ATT Wireless won't let me get to my account page due to 'temporary problems', I'm unsure if a PDA plan is available to me -- but are you saying a PDA plan is available for the Tilt? Does it have restrictions like I mentioned previously about MediaNet?
The sales people did hook me up with MediaNET, probably due to price. If I can get hooked in to a PDA plan with no ironfist restrictions, it could really save me potential problems with ATT.

Most "unlimited Plans" in the uk have a fair usage policy
so unlimited Date = 3GB per month
unlimited sms = 3000
and same with Minutes 3000 per month

Go sprint and buy a Mogul. I there is no limit on your data period. I use it as a modem as well even though I am not supposed to. Its funny considering its the exact same connection either way. Sprint is still the cheapest and still has the best data plans.

Q re best Local Number Portability options to hold onto old landline number

XDA Smart Folks! I need crowd-source thinking on this. It's something that affects many many people, and will continue to for years to come. I've searched online high and low for answers to this, analyzed all sorts of potential scenarios for one simple purpose: cutting my landline service but holding keeping that phone number in my possession (maybe a year) until I decide where to go with it.
Here's my phone "ecosystem" right now:
(1) Landline home service which also carries my DSL service. I want to cut this service but find cheapest way to keep the number, to use to call forward to wherever I choose.
(2) I no longer need a landline phone, huge waste of money, and DSL can now be delivered via "dry loop"... whereby DSL provider supplies the phone line to you, using local phone company lines, routed to you strictly as data, which you have no responsibility for. The "dry loop" phone line is built into their monthly DSL price, but it is not in any way a phone # I access or use.
(3) T-mobile cell voice + unlimited internet/data plan for past 5 years, with HTC touchscreen phone, and a phone number I like.
(4) Several SKYPE-IN phone #s local to me
(5) and now a Google Voice # local to me.
(6) A Skype-to-go # I use just for calling international #s via a phone, vs via skype app on a computer. (You call your own Skype-to-go #, using any phone, cell or landline anywhere, then press speed-dials to connect to international land or mobile phones)
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MY PREFERRED SOLUTIONS, but not yet available, if at all:
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1. Port my about-to-be-disconnected landline # to replace my Google Voice #. This recent article from TechCrunch shows that it IS possible, just not yet available for "rank & file" GV users.
How I Learned To Quit The iPhone And Love Google Voice
Want to port your mobile number to Google Voice.... and do what I've done? Google Voice's Secret Weapon: Number Portability
It's an interesting quandary that, in order to port your number you need to ...Google Voice About to Get More Amazing By Letting You Port Your ...
Jun 14, 2009 ... That means you'll be able to port the phone numberGoogle Voice and use whatever phone you want, ... you've had for 5 or 10 or 100 years to Arrington Gets To Port Into Google Voice, When Do The Rest Of Us ...
Aug 10, 2009 ... Well, yesterday I read that Michael Arrington (a new adopter to Google Voice) of Techcrunch was able to port his numberGoogle Voice ... into
2. Port to my Skype-In # ... (Not a chance. Won't happen due to USA FCC rules)
3. Possibly add a 2nd line to my existing T-mo account, with a free no-feature phone, and use it just to forward calls to wherever I choose. Perhaps in a year Google Voice will have Number Portability by then. Downside: too costly
4. NOT cut off my local landline service, but convert it to a fax/data line, and, if possible, set up voice call-forwarding to whatever phone I actually want to ring when people dial my long-time #. Problem: I really despise my local provider for its domestic spying on all US citizens every phone call and web site in cooperation with Bush Administrations blatant disregard for laws. This is the primary reason I want to cut that tie completely -- an economic statement of principle.
5. Get a cheap pre-pay cell-phone plan that i use for no other reason than to preserve my # and use to call forward. But I don't know if consumers can port a number to a pre-paid plan in USA. Can they?
6. Use a "phone number parking service". I didn't know these existed til tonight. Like domain-name parking. But it's specifically for people in my shoes. You port your # to them, they forward your calls wherever you want, $10/month. Like here, and here.
7. Establish T-Mobile @ Home local service -- but I don't know if this sets you up with a separate phone # besides your cell line; I'm assuming no.
8. And finally: Let go of my current T-Mobile cell #, and just port my landline # to my cell account. The downside here is that it is an established contact #, I like it, and porting my landline # to it eliminates it.
What sayeth XDA-dev members?

UPDATE 1: NUMBER PORTABILITY - Ways to hold onto a number in between services
I've done some ruleouts since yesterday, which reduce the options:
• Port to my Skype-In # ... Eliminated. Not possible, per Skype support email.
• Possibly add 2nd line to my existing T-mo account, : Will cost me $20/month additional, by using a Family Plan additional one line. Not a good value at all. The price threshold to meet or beat is $10/month for actual phone service; or $5/month to "park your number"
5. Get a cheap pre-pay cell-phone plan (for example Tracfone or Virgin Mobile) that i use for no other reason than to preserve my # and use to call forward. But I don't know if consumers can port a number to a pre-paid plan in USA. Can they?
6. Use a "phone number parking service". This seems like the way to go -- unless T-Mobile wakes up with item 7 below. I didn't know these existed til tonight. Like domain-name parking. But it's specifically for people in my shoes. You port your # to them, they forward your calls wherever you want, $10/month. Like here, and here.
7. Establish T-Mobile @ Home local service -- ANSWERS: Yes, I can port my old landline # to a new T-Mobile @ Home VOIP account. HOWEVER, A REALLY STUPID PROBLEM -- T-MOBILE WON'T LET YOU PAY THEM an additional $10/month for this service, in some cases:
LISTEN UP T-MOBILE, or get hurt by stupidity: T-Mobile will not let customers sign up for this service -- and pay T-Mobile an additional revenue of $10/month -- unless the customer has a voice plan of $39.99 or over. I use my cell more for data than talk, so I have the $29.99 voice plan -- and so T-Mobile says "No, we will not take your money and make from you an additional $120/year in revenue, because you don't qualify to pay us $10/month." ... Nevermind that I have an additional Text messaging plan, and on top of that a "Total Internet and Unlimited Hotspot" data plan -- adding another $40/month I pay to them. Pure beancounter mentality vs Total Customer Relationship business mentality.
(10-1-09) Right now I have a call-back due from T-Mobile's CUSTOMER RETENTION department to let me know if they will let me pay them an additional $10/month to get the @Home VOIP phone service... If they don't, I may pack up my whole account with them and switch to Sprint or AT&T, simply due to beancounter insulting stupidity. Stay tuned for the answer.
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thoughts on the future of texting

In school, I learned about a European carrier effort called Joyn, which is a text messaging replacement app. It works just like text messaging except it uses data instead of the SMS protocol. Why are the carriers themselves doing this? People are ditching texting for data apps that do the same thing because the apps are free vs SMS which is paid. Joyn is also free but the Euro carriers can at least improve the experience and maybe sell add-on services such as video calling and maybe international calling over data. I'm not sure what stage they're at in Europe but there's already a demo app.
Food for thought:
- will people learn to use a new app?
- would we developers be welcoming to a new app platform on top of Joyn? I'm thinking apps that use a Joyn api and that install through Joyn instead of the Apple/Android/MS apps stores.
The advantages:
- no more asking your friends to install the same app you use, or getting a separate number just for free texting! It would be built-in to your phone and your number just like SMS today. By the same token, lesser need to maintain multiple apps.
- quality control: some apps I use on my Android have huge delays; carriers are better positioned to maintain quality of service
The disadvantages:
- getting people to do/learn something different?
General thoughts are welcome as well!

wujuyamakin said:
In school, I learned about a European carrier effort called Joyn, which is a text messaging replacement app. It works just like text messaging except it uses data instead of the SMS protocol. Why are the carriers themselves doing this? People are ditching texting for data apps that do the same thing because the apps are free vs SMS which is paid. Joyn is also free but the Euro carriers can at least improve the experience and maybe sell add-on services such as video calling and maybe international calling over data. I'm not sure what stage they're at in Europe but there's already a demo app.
Food for thought:
- will people learn to use a new app?
- would we developers be welcoming to a new app platform on top of Joyn? I'm thinking apps that use a Joyn api and that install through Joyn instead of the Apple/Android/MS apps stores.
The advantages:
- no more asking your friends to install the same app you use, or getting a separate number just for free texting! It would be built-in to your phone and your number just like SMS today. By the same token, lesser need to maintain multiple apps.
- quality control: some apps I use on my Android have huge delays; carriers are better positioned to maintain quality of service
The disadvantages:
- getting people to do/learn something different?
General thoughts are welcome as well!
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I'm not sure how this is any different to Apple messaging. On my work phone (iPhone 4) I have a single messaging app - if I am sending to someone else with an iOS device it is delivered as an iMessage but if I'm sending it to someone else it automatically sends it as a text message. Even my 72 year old Mum can deal with this - "one app to rule them all"

This might work but I don't see this happening in developing countries anytime soon. Over here, majority of people doesn't have a smartphone and the data isn't the best. Unlimited sms rates are also cheaper than data. But then again it really depends on the person because I rarely use sms these days. It would be nice to have a bbm/imessage style app where everyone has one on their phones though. No more "hey install this so we can talk".

A decent amount of texts are usually included with any data plan. If data only plans were offered on cell phones then I think you would see people switching to voip instead of regular calls and internet based texting.

I think eventually texting will move to strictly data. But they will milk it for awhile still.

Doubt it will be a big thing here. Most carriers are giving unlimited texting away as part of the new tiered data plans. Texts costs carriers nothing to pass back and fourth.

MissionImprobable said:
Doubt it will be a big thing here. Most carriers are giving unlimited texting away as part of the new tiered data plans. Texts costs carriers nothing to pass back and fourth.
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i can see a future facebook , gmail ,yahoo messengers are integrated into a single Messenger application somewhat like whatsapp but with more functions like video chat , voice chat...and all the goodness of texting .

How is that Euro app different from what you can do with Google Voice?
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spunker88 said:
A decent amount of texts are usually included with any data plan. If data only plans were offered on cell phones then I think you would see people switching to voip instead of regular calls and internet based texting.
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In the US, data plans are completely separate from SMS plans.

SimonTS said:
I'm not sure how this is any different to Apple messaging. On my work phone (iPhone 4) I have a single messaging app - if I am sending to someone else with an iOS device it is delivered as an iMessage but if I'm sending it to someone else it automatically sends it as a text message. Even my 72 year old Mum can deal with this - "one app to rule them all"
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The difference is you wouldn't need a texting plan with Joyn. Also Joyn is cross-platform, works on non-iOS devices as well. Also, it's free from Apple's whims

rbruno66 said:
How is that Euro app different from what you can do with Google Voice?
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Check out some of the videos on the Joyn site, it offers a whole lot more features such as video and voice messages, file sharing, location sharing, etc.
But just regarding the texting portion, the difference is that Joyn is created by the carriers themselves so there would be high QoS, as opposed to Google Voice (which I gratefully use), which has had delays of over 24 hours at times with my texts.
The other difference is that Joyn would be built-in to phones so you don't have to worry about the other end having SMS support or not.

wujuyamakin said:
But just regarding the texting portion, the difference is that Joyn is created by the carriers themselves so there would be high QoS, as opposed to Google Voice (which I gratefully use), which has had delays of over 24 hours at times with my texts.
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You shouldn't be getting such long delays, I don't think. It should (though I'm not 100% positive it is) be pushed straight from the google voice server.
Anyway, as mission said, texting isn't going to go away, bundled as it is into our plans. It's exceedingly cheap for the carriers, while they can try to use it to get unsuspecting customers to pay much more.

We already use apps such as Kik and whatsapp instead of sms. First theres no worry about length of text plus we can send pics vids and sounds for free. These are even better than apples imessage because dont matter if you have blackberry, android or ios.
Also we can chat in groups much easier.

I'm just jumping in with thoughts. The only benefit i can see, as the abundance of unlimited text plans has already been pointed out, is that a data based sms is completely independent of carrier, operating system, phones, region, etc.- so long as internet access is available. But that may be irrelevant as carriers probably have a nice texting deal worked out to transfer texts among other carriers really cheaply. I could be wrong as i am only speculating.
Future of texting- something to think about.

I'm in Europe and I've never heard of this 'Joyn'...
Now, Whatsapp, on the other hand...

The more integrated that 3rd party messaging apps become with mobile OSs the less likely it is that phone users will choose to use more expensive options like SMS, MMS, or even standard voice calls.

My comment would be that a data-based messenging app is fine, but not everyone has a smartphone. With the high cost of data plans I predict that sms-based texting will continue to dominate, because people still like cheap phones. We lose track of that since most of our peers are data junkies
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MunkinDrunky said:
I'm just jumping in with thoughts. The only benefit i can see, as the abundance of unlimited text plans has already been pointed out, is that a data based sms is completely independent of carrier, operating system, phones, region, etc.- so long as internet access is available. But that may be irrelevant as carriers probably have a nice texting deal worked out to transfer texts among other carriers really cheaply. I could be wrong as i am only speculating.
Future of texting- something to think about.
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Couple other major (IMHO) benefits:
- No more asking your contact to install apps and juggling multiple apps. Joyn is carrier-made and integrated with your phone number. I now have 3 apps that all do messaging because people have different preferences and some apps work better on certain OS's than others. Something like Joyn makes messaging just like calling; it just works if you know the other end's number.
- App platform potential: Joyn has an API. Apps can be added such as grouping interfaces, virtual gifts, BBM-like features such as encryption and security. Good opportunity for us developers, better alignment of interests between carriers and users (good user experience).

wujuyamakin said:
Couple other major (IMHO) benefits:
- No more asking your contact to install apps and juggling multiple apps. Joyn is carrier-made and integrated with your phone number. I now have 3 apps that all do messaging because people have different preferences and some apps work better on certain OS's than others. Something like Joyn makes messaging just like calling; it just works if you know the other end's number.
- App platform potential: Joyn has an API. Apps can be added such as grouping interfaces, virtual gifts, BBM-like features such as encryption and security. Good opportunity for us developers, better alignment of interests between carriers and users (good user experience).
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you bring up a good point but anti socialists would cry!

I use google voice for texting. It works great for me in the US. Not sure if it is available in Europe.

[Q] google voice alternative

moderators, if there is a better place to put this, please move accordingly.
situation:
my employer will pickup $95 of my cellphone bill if i get a smartphone for work - so that i can check emails while traveling to job sites, meetings, etc. i travel about once every other week now. they will put me on the company account when i am traveling every week. so this might only be a 2 year stop-gap till they are paying for all of my phone and this isnt an issue at all. at that point, i can port my GV number to ATT and the company account.
i currently have a dumb or "feature phone" and cant justify spending the monthly data rate to get a smart phone for personal usage, but if my business pick-ups most of the tab, it is worth it. personally, i make less than 200 minutes of calls and 200 texts (mostly to my wife who is on the same plan, that is all negated as part of the "shared"
if i stay on my current family's plan and convert it to a family data share plan (ATT), that actually saves me about $15 a month on my phone bill
downside - i have an out of area phone number and my office wants me to have an in-area phone number for business
in short, what is the best, long term way to have 2 numbers call/receive on a cellphone, without having to pay extra, or minimal, for the convenience of being able to call from the different numbers. if the telecom carriers would just drop their stupid tax limitation for having different tax / area codes on the same account, i wouldn't have this issue. realistically - if everyone in the USA had free nation wide calling via cellphone, land-line, etc - we would all just have 10 digit numbers and this wouldn't be a problem b/c we wouldn't need all of these hacks and tweaks for porting numbers, move voice over sip/voip, use 3rd party programs that use txt over data rather than it just all being easy and cheap / rant over.
GV number
it appears i am receive / call from an in-area number - i already setup a number and tried a iphone and it works great.
not concerned that it uses minutes b/c family share plan has unlimited minutes (i keep searching for google voice alternatives and i either come up with VoIP / SIP options to avoid using minutes and use data OR business plans that use voice, but charge for minutes)
my concerns / reason for looking for other options / alternatives
1. every year google says that US calling is free for the next year. and their rates page shows the same.
since i will be using default GV iphone/android app that will use minutes rather than VoIP to make the calls, will that ever be a concern of mine (e.g. if google makes a call $0.01 a minute in the future, i don't want to have to find another option really quick b/c it does not suite my needs anymore)
2. GV closing - everyone was "up-in-arms" about reader closing this year. most of us have moved to other programs / clients that allow us to continue reading news
3. GV says that you shouldnt use it for business b/c they don't have enterprise support. the company i work for is far from an enterprise, but i still have some an uneasy feeling that if google doesn't like GV anymore and drop it, im scrambling to find something fast and dont want to do that. e.g. is this the best long term solution?
option 2: long time listener to leo laporte / twit and they are advertising ring central.
looked at their features and not only will it cost more than i am saving, but also, it has tons more features that what i need.
other options? someone on the GV forums called GV a "call management service" and i have searched for alternatives and most of the business oriented services seem to want to offer more features than i need and to change for it. most of the personal alternatives are an attempt to reduce voice minutes, but use data.
a lot of our contractor clients have project managers and job-site supers have completely random area codes and call from other named business's when they call us, so it might not even be an issue. trying to do all my research before i go back to my boss and give him some options and see if having an in-area number is required or just something that they would want.
thanks for the help and advise.