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£5 per month for silver does not seem bad but I fail to understand the lines
"Mobile access to Orb or Slingbox does not include using your mobile as a modem."
Slingbox and Orb are for personal use only and you mustn’t breach copyright or get around copyright protection.
Also seem to charge roaming prices for using skype overseas? charged as a voice call not a data call?????
Anyone analysed the details in full.
To watch home TV on your mobile you need to have a TV service that you can legally view.
Slingbox is sold separately and contains a Freeview receiver so you’ll need a TV licence if you haven’t already got one.
You’re responsible for your compliance with all of these terms.
Our fair use policy
We have fair use limits and hope you’ll use your common sense. These limits should be big enough for you to do all the things you want to do. But we’ll get in touch with you if we think you’re using our services unfairly, and especially if you’re abusing them. If we find people are using X-Series above these limits, we’ll review them. Here’s our take on fair use:
* Unlimited data is 1GB per month. Also, your data usage doesn’t include using your mobile as a modem.
* Windows Live Messenger won’t count towards your monthly data fair use limit but has its own limit of 10,000 messages per month.
* Skype on 3 is 5,000 minutes per month. If you go over this you’ll need to wait until the start of the next bill month for the service to resume, however Skype calls can still be received.
* Orb and Slingbox have a total combined limit of 80 hours a month.

Tethering to launch as a service on mytouch 4g release date

tethering and Wi-Fi Sharing Add-On Feature Launches November 3
Overview
On November 3, T-Mobile will launch a tethering and Wi-Fi sharing add-on feature. This feature will allow customers to use their phone as a modem, enabling them to connect a computer or Wi-Fi capable device to the Web using our 3G or HSPA+ network.
By adding this add-on feature, which will cost $14.99/month, customers will gain access to the Web when they are on the go and wherever T-Mobile has coverage. Although most customers will use their laptop to access our network through their device, they will also be able to connect using any Wi-Fi capable device, like gaming devices, non-T-Mobile tablets like the iPad, and music players. Customers can make the phone-as-modem connection using a USB cable, Bluetooth, or Wi-Fi sharing.
Requirements
Customers must have a 3G or HSPA+ compatible device to utilize the Tethering/Wi-Fi sharing feature.
Customers must have an Unlimited Web feature with an MRC of $19.95 or higher.
Customers must add the $14.99 Tethering/Wi-Fi add-on feature.
This is a separate add-on feature and in addition to the Unlimited Web feature.
Available for postpaid and FlexPay customers. Note: FlexPay customers will need to change their Unlimited Web feature in order for the new tethering add-on feature to work.
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Tethering/Wi-Fi sharing will be ideal for customers who:
Need occasional access to the Web using a PC or other device.
Want a connection to the Web on-the-go, wherever T-Mobile has coverage.
Don’t see the need or want the expense of a complete mobile broadband experience, like T-Mobile’s webConnect. Note: customers who intend to use their laptops to access the Web frequently, or use a high amount of data, should consider a webConnect plan.
Additional Details
Customers who purchase a T-Mobile mobile broadband product like the upcoming Galaxy Tab should activate with a webConnect plan to ensure the best experience.
The set-up process will be determined by the type of device customers own and will be different for every manufacturer.
The data accumulated while tethering will count towards customers’ 5GB data speed reduction threshold limit.
Because T-Mobile Terms & Conditions have not permitted tethering in the past, those customers who have configured their device for tethering will receive a message on their handset advising them they will need to add the new add-on feature to continue using their device as a modem.
Action
Be aware dealers can begin selling the Tetherng/Wi-Fi add-on feature beginning November 3.
Review the Grab & Go for additional information.
Beginning November 3, refer to policy pages: T-MobileNews > In-Store Polices and Procedures
source: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-charge-14-99-tethering-fee-come-nov-3rd/

I have received the same communication and am currently using it with no additional cost. Granted I am using it prior to the launch date so that may have something to do with it.
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Ditto - using Nexus One with custom ROM on current unlimited plan. Will be watching to see if somehow they start blocking this.

Simpel moblie lies and they are fake

Hi every one I have the sk4g but with simpel mobile any ways when you think of unlimited you think texts web talk well I get this text the other day and they siad I w2as at risk to have my date turn off because I did not fallow ther trems and condishons sorry if miss spell but unlimited should be on unlimeited no hind lies well I would like thos who are with simple mobile to protest agines them wright them tell them how its fake advertisemet
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Yeah that's messed up dude, were you using the tmobile tether app or something? I wonder why they would say that...

No I was useing phone my pc and utorrent but still it lies how a phone company can be so fake
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No wonder they sent you a message, you were tethering to your PC using utorrent and other PC stuff. If you abuse the system, they're gonna end you.
Taken from the Terms and Conditions page.
15. Misuse of Service or Device. You agree not to misuse the Service or Device, including but not limited to: (a) reselling or rebilling our Service; (b) using the Service or Device to engage in unlawful activity, or in conduct that adversely affects our customers, employees, business, or any other person(s), or that interferes with our operations, network, reputation, or ability to provide quality service, including but not limited to the generation or dissemination of viruses, malware or "denial of service" attacks; (c) using the Service as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections; (d) tampering with or modifying your Simple Mobile Device; (e) "spamming" or engaging in other abusive or unsolicited communications, or any other mass, automated voice or data communication for commercial or marketing purposes; (f) reselling Simple Mobile Devices for profit, or tampering with, reprogramming or altering Simple Mobile Devices for the purpose of reselling the Simple Mobile Device; (g) using the Service in connection with server devices or host computer applications, including continuous Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine-to-machine connections or peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing applications that are broadcast to multiple servers or recipients, "bots" or similar routines that could disrupt net user groups or email use by others or other applications that denigrate network capacity or functionality; (h) accessing, or attempting to access without authority, the information, accounts or devices of others, or to penetrate, or attempt to penetrate, Simple Mobile's or another entity's network or systems; (i) running software or other devices that maintain continuously active Internet connections when a computer's connection would otherwise be idle, or "keep alive" functions (e.g. using a Data Plan for Web broadcasting, operating servers, telemetry devices and/or supervisory control and data acquisition devices); or (j) assisting or facilitating anyone else in any of the above activities. Unless authorized by Simple Mobile, you agree that you won't install, deploy, or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate a transmitted RF signal. You agree that a violation of this section harms Simple Mobile, which cannot be fully redressed by money damages, and that Simple Mobile shall be entitled to immediate injunctive relief in addition to all other remedies available.
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You can't be reckless with tethering, use it in moderation.

Yea simple mobile doesn't allow tethering, it is in the TOA and on the website's QnA
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I'm on Wind up in Canada. I get unlimited calling, unlimited long distance, unlimited texting worldwide, unlimited data, and tethering to my hearts content. All for $45 tax in. Now that's what unlimited should mean!

Jax184 said:
I'm on Wind up in Canada. I get unlimited calling, unlimited long distance, unlimited texting worldwide, unlimited data, and tethering to my hearts content. All for $45 tax in. Now that's what unlimited should mean!
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Agreed. I wouldn't mind paying an extra $15 bucks for that in the states. Right now I'm on the unlimited text and web (first 5gb is 4G speed) and 100 minutes plan for $30.

I dont have that problem because I don't tether. They made it nice and sparkling clear to not tether... I think its a fair bargain for the price I pay for service to be honest. Try talking with them about paying extra for tethering or go to a different carrier.
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How did anyone understand enough of that garbage to respond?

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How did anyone understand enough of that garbage to respond?
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I must have been drunk or something... no I remember now... I was on the ****ter at work and the fumes must have gotten to me. I got drunk when. I got home.
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[Q] google voice alternative

moderators, if there is a better place to put this, please move accordingly.
situation:
my employer will pickup $95 of my cellphone bill if i get a smartphone for work - so that i can check emails while traveling to job sites, meetings, etc. i travel about once every other week now. they will put me on the company account when i am traveling every week. so this might only be a 2 year stop-gap till they are paying for all of my phone and this isnt an issue at all. at that point, i can port my GV number to ATT and the company account.
i currently have a dumb or "feature phone" and cant justify spending the monthly data rate to get a smart phone for personal usage, but if my business pick-ups most of the tab, it is worth it. personally, i make less than 200 minutes of calls and 200 texts (mostly to my wife who is on the same plan, that is all negated as part of the "shared"
if i stay on my current family's plan and convert it to a family data share plan (ATT), that actually saves me about $15 a month on my phone bill
downside - i have an out of area phone number and my office wants me to have an in-area phone number for business
in short, what is the best, long term way to have 2 numbers call/receive on a cellphone, without having to pay extra, or minimal, for the convenience of being able to call from the different numbers. if the telecom carriers would just drop their stupid tax limitation for having different tax / area codes on the same account, i wouldn't have this issue. realistically - if everyone in the USA had free nation wide calling via cellphone, land-line, etc - we would all just have 10 digit numbers and this wouldn't be a problem b/c we wouldn't need all of these hacks and tweaks for porting numbers, move voice over sip/voip, use 3rd party programs that use txt over data rather than it just all being easy and cheap / rant over.
GV number
it appears i am receive / call from an in-area number - i already setup a number and tried a iphone and it works great.
not concerned that it uses minutes b/c family share plan has unlimited minutes (i keep searching for google voice alternatives and i either come up with VoIP / SIP options to avoid using minutes and use data OR business plans that use voice, but charge for minutes)
my concerns / reason for looking for other options / alternatives
1. every year google says that US calling is free for the next year. and their rates page shows the same.
since i will be using default GV iphone/android app that will use minutes rather than VoIP to make the calls, will that ever be a concern of mine (e.g. if google makes a call $0.01 a minute in the future, i don't want to have to find another option really quick b/c it does not suite my needs anymore)
2. GV closing - everyone was "up-in-arms" about reader closing this year. most of us have moved to other programs / clients that allow us to continue reading news
3. GV says that you shouldnt use it for business b/c they don't have enterprise support. the company i work for is far from an enterprise, but i still have some an uneasy feeling that if google doesn't like GV anymore and drop it, im scrambling to find something fast and dont want to do that. e.g. is this the best long term solution?
option 2: long time listener to leo laporte / twit and they are advertising ring central.
looked at their features and not only will it cost more than i am saving, but also, it has tons more features that what i need.
other options? someone on the GV forums called GV a "call management service" and i have searched for alternatives and most of the business oriented services seem to want to offer more features than i need and to change for it. most of the personal alternatives are an attempt to reduce voice minutes, but use data.
a lot of our contractor clients have project managers and job-site supers have completely random area codes and call from other named business's when they call us, so it might not even be an issue. trying to do all my research before i go back to my boss and give him some options and see if having an in-area number is required or just something that they would want.
thanks for the help and advise.

The Moto X and Republic Wireless

So has anyone gotten the Moto X on RW yet? If so can you give me your personal review of the phone and service? Thanks a million!
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Using Moto X on RW for 30 days and love it!
Being a newby here, I can't provide a link to my original post, so here's the response cross-posted.
In short. I dig it. Cheap phone, well equipped (no, not the best or fastest, but hits my sweet spot; ok, no jokes...), and WiFi access is fine.
Pros
- convenience (dirt simple; if you can post to this site, you can manage your phones)
- cost/TCO (half the cost of VZW)
- quality of handset
- no contract
- service extends between US and Canada (calls from Canada to US included; WiFi use encouraged, but not required)
[Update: service was confirmed during a 6 day trip to Ontario, where we had no difficulty calling each other and others using RW phones while roaming, all included in the flat monthly rate. We only lacked the data, voice and SMS were fine; we had no trouble finding WiFi for email, etc.]
Cons
- Sprint network is not the best (but works well in my area; ymmv)
- can't auto-dial a conf call number (can dial 800-numbers, but can't pass a second string automagically; I have to remember the code and enter after the call connects; for me, a small trade-off for cheap service)
- phones have custom ROM to handle hybrid WiFi/Cell calls, so they can't be used on another network.
If you have questions, please ask. I do NOT work for RW... I was a very loyal VZW customer (great network, great service, but expensive)
If you want $19 discount on first month, use my discount code at referrals dot republicwireless dot com /a/clk/1x9d7h
My Experience
Call quality has been great during our first month of ownership. WiFi and 3G calls are great, with only a few moments of "clipped" speech on two separate calls. I believe that has more to do with my WiFi network than anything else. Not bad considering the many hours of use the Moto X has been getting. According to the RW site, I've "offloaded" about 25% of my calls to WiFi this month, which allows them to lower costs.
[Updated: I did confirm that my router/ap setup impacted calls and I've tweaked things for perfect results, now]
Setting up the phone was a simple, guided process. You are assigned a phone number, based on your billing address, and there's a web form for porting an existing number to the new device. Note: Google Voice numbers can't be ported to the phone, but you can still use the GV app on the phone, and can even force the phone to only dial out as GV. Number porting was done in 2 days and I noticed I lost access to my VZW online account. I figured this would happen and grabbed anything of value from the site before initiating the port requests.
Based on prior comments, here are a few corrections. Google Voice works just fine on the Moto X, including visual voicemail and transcription of messages into text (very convenient). LastPass integration is awesome... and don't forget your YubiKey NEO for two-factor authentication. VPN connections are supported, which reduce exposure while on public WiFi. Google integration is excellent and setup is easy. I have some concerns about Motorola capturing data and sending through their servers, but lack the skills to cut them off -- search for Motorola Is Listening and you'll get the story.
NAS/Cloud
If you have not checked out Synology, do yourself a favor... the absolute best NAS out there. Their software is amazing and it permits use of Android Apps to get at Music, Videos, Files, and downloads. To cut it short... their apps are my personal cloud. Paired with cheap 3G/4G, you can't beat the convenience and security of knowing you're activity is not being monitored for later resale in the form of promotions suited to your tastes.
Total Cost of Ownership
Even with a 22% corporate discount, my wife and I spent $7,000 with VZW over 5 years for voice/text (no data) in US and Canada... that's about $115/mo * 12 * 5 years. I don't know about you, but that's more than I spent for my desktop, laptop, and Comcast bill. Pricing is not in line with reality... same as the $250/MB text plans of yesteryear.
The new plan ($25/mo for 3G talk/text/data) will cost $600/year for two lines. Yes, we have to purchase phones, but the 5-year TCO will be $3,600 ($50 * 12 * 5, plus $600 for phones)
By the way, did I say I'm excited about this phone/plan... eeeegad, it's awesome!
Bye bye LG VX9200 (Env3)... you served us well. sniff. sniff.