Just made a huge mistake.
Sold my white GSM Gnex on XDA and picked up an international Note. Couple of problems with the Note...it lags terribly and the WiFi continuously downloads on my home network for no apparent reason, even after a factory reset. Other phones on the same network do not behave the same way.
In any case, I'm preparing to return the Note. What do I do next though? I've pretty much decided that I need Jelly Bean. I don't want a GS3 or Note II. I'd buy another Nexus, but I've heard there's a new one on the horizon, so I don't want to spend $350-400 on another phone with a 5MP camera.
Currently using an iPhone 3GS in the meantime. Help!
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Stickies are not obvious on a mobile device. I read some of that thread last night, and it looks like a complete mess. Not sure how that makes sense.
Anyway, close away!
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Stickies are not obvious on a mobile device. I read some of that thread last night, and it looks like a complete mess. Not sure how that makes sense.
Anyway, close away!
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It makes sense because there are such a high number of these threads that we decided to consolidate them in an effort to clean up the forum, thereby getting other questions answered faster and making the search function more effective. Closed.
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You know I bought this phone on the premise that even if loaded with bloat the Snapdragon processor in here should be enough to handle it and still provide seamless screen transitions, etc.
Sadly it seems that this phone is laggy. At times when screen transitions it will "stutter" or otherwise "hesitate" causing a poor user experience.
So I did tweak my ROM up some, disabled most of the bloat and the experience is now what I would have expected from it stock.
I also understand that I am coming from my own tweaked ROMS on other high end devices but I just expected more from this.
What do you all think? What phone did you come from?
Yay another thread about the lag lol
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Dallenn said:
Yay another thread about the lag lol
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Can you post where, I want to read up on it. I will close this thread as well.
Will you be creating clean Rom for this?
remixkilla said:
Will you be creating clean Rom for this?
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Yeah, I am debating whether or not to keep this thing.
Its nice but I was kinda expecting more punch from it. Plus its just line I dont need as I also want to keep my Verizon line so its up in the air right now.
I did stock rooted ROMS already from the latest OTA dumps but have not posted them pending testing.
I still have 12 days left to decide....
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Can you post where, I want to read up on it. I will close this thread as well.
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Most of them have been locked, but heres the more popular ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260122
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264407
Honestly with the bloat frozen this phone is nearly the same as my s3 was out of the box "lag" wise. I love it...
Really hope you decide to stay around, have only ever heard great things about clean rom but have never gotten to try it!
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Most of them have been locked, but heres the more popular ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260122
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264407
Honestly with the bloat frozen this phone is nearly the same as my s3 was out of the box "lag" wise. I love it...
Really hope you decide to stay around, have only ever heard great things about clean rom but have never gotten to try it!
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Exactly, its the same as an S3 with 1/2 the processing power.
I have Note II and S3 ROMS that are much smoother... I guess its going to be hard to judge until I can tear it apart and do some tweaking to the OS more. It sjust my Note II, stocked seemed faster.
I dont know yet. Just trying to gather opinions. I am sure Samsung will smooth it up. They made huge strides with the Note II.
I'll check out your links tonight. Thanks for posting them!
I was thinking about returning it for the one which is smooth as hell
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I have come from the note 2 as well and its unreal to realize the lag on this. Ive only froze the at&t bloat thinking it was enough but damn....its pretty bad.
Stock Note 2 smashes this. Im hoping if/when the bootloader gets unlocked, scrosler and other devs can make this GS4 into what its meant to be...a beastly device.
For now...its tolerable but its bad now because I expected more from a flagship phone.
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Hey Scrosler, loved your One X roms! As far as the lag goes, it does definitely seem that my S3 was faster. It's made it hell deciding on whether I should keep my S4 or HTC One, since I was going to originally take the One back. Aside from the stuff you probably did already, try disabling the lock screen animation as well as disabling the home button from accessing S Voice (double click the Home button, then go to settings to disable). These are the two things that seemed to have helped the most with lag issues. Still not perfect by any means, but it's much improved. Now if I could just do something about the damn keyboard lag..
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What about gaming. My girlfriend has the s4 and we did a head to head comparison of vice city and her one ran it smoother. That makes no sense to me.
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My wife is not experiencing any of this prolonged lag. Consider us lucky. Ours is pretty solid. The first time I did notice lag was while unlocking the phone with the "majestic twinkle" effect. It did it intermittently. Turned that effect off. Now unlocks smooth. Also turned off all transitions. Much better. Theres no stutters or lag spikes. Its pretty darn good. For a stock experience we are satisfied. If Scot does decide to develop for this phone I am confident it will be CleanRommed.
Comparing it to my Note 2 running cleanROM is totally unfair though
Mines snappy idk what you guys are talking about!
Scott keep it! You leaving the One was a big reason why i switched, and a few of the other inconveniences that comes along with an HTC
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Ah I don't know what to do. I love this device but hate how we have to disable all types of things in order for it to perform right
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Scott I came from your awesome note 2 Cleanrom..please don't leave. Just needs a good developer to teak it a bit.
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Hope you stay Scott as I love your ROM's as well...
But I would not blame you one bit if you ditched it!
I am seriously debating selling mine ( I paid full price ) and picking up a Nexus 4 but will wait until Google i/o before deciding what to do..
Same thing here I'm used to using my own ROMs, so there is that adjustment
But Scott as you know there is only so much that can be done with a ROM at the end of the day Samsung will have to adjust some things which then gives us a better base to work from, I'm sticking with this one till nexus 5 is out
Just my 2 cents
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I was thinking about returning it for the one which is smooth as hell
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I will tell you this...
I had both and the One is 10x more smooth. Thats why I felt let down with this phone. I have to shut off / freeze damn near everything to get acceptable performance out of it. I know in time Samsung will improve but I am dealing wiht the here and now...
surge27 said:
I have come from the note 2 as well and its unreal to realize the lag on this. Ive only froze the at&t bloat thinking it was enough but damn....its pretty bad.
Stock Note 2 smashes this. Im hoping if/when the bootloader gets unlocked, scrosler and other devs can make this GS4 into what its meant to be...a beastly device.
For now...its tolerable but its bad now because I expected more from a flagship phone.
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Thats what I am saying, stock Note II blows this away but the benchmarks are just the opposite.
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Hey Scrosler, loved your One X roms! As far as the lag goes, it does definitely seem that my S3 was faster. It's made it hell deciding on whether I should keep my S4 or HTC One, since I was going to originally take the One back. Aside from the stuff you probably did already, try disabling the lock screen animation as well as disabling the home button from accessing S Voice (double click the Home button, then go to settings to disable). These are the two things that seemed to have helped the most with lag issues. Still not perfect by any means, but it's much improved. Now if I could just do something about the damn keyboard lag..
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Yeah, I tweaked it pretty hard, minor stuff like build pror, caching, etc. Similiar to what I would do if I had a ROM built around it but... still..
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What about gaming. My girlfriend has the s4 and we did a head to head comparison of vice city and her one ran it smoother. That makes no sense to me.
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Yep, I am sure of it. I dont think Samsung has the experience in building with 4.2.2...
Jooosty said:
My wife is not experiencing any of this prolonged lag. Consider us lucky. Ours is pretty solid. The first time I did notice lag was while unlocking the phone with the "majestic twinkle" effect. It did it intermittently. Turned that effect off. Now unlocks smooth. Also turned off all transitions. Much better. Theres no stutters or lag spikes. Its pretty darn good. For a stock experience we are satisfied. If Scot does decide to develop for this phone I am confident it will be CleanRommed.
Comparing it to my Note 2 running cleanROM is totally unfair though
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Yeah, but you turned off the cool parts which I like. I always set my transistions to 50%, even in my ROMS but I wont turn them off. The twinkle affect should cause stutter after its done. I see lag just backing out of the Play Store to the desktop it will sometimes stutter. Not just the occasional lock screen lag in which I know you are referring to.
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Mines snappy idk what you guys are talking about!
Scott keep it! You leaving the One was a big reason why i switched, and a few of the other inconveniences that comes along with an HTC
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lol, I guess in a way I feel bad... But i never told anyone to buy the phone I do :crying:
I really dont know if I am going to keep this one. Its a whole differnt carrier, and a whole new line that I really dont need. And with the current level of performance its hard to justify keeping it.
This is why I started the thread. To see if it was me and my expectations or if the phone really is laggy.... And from the feedback, its laggy, its not just me.
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Ah I don't know what to do. I love this device but hate how we have to disable all types of things in order for it to perform right
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You took the words out of my mouth!!!
tosh1 said:
Scott I came from your awesome note 2 Cleanrom..please don't leave. Just needs a good developer to teak it a bit.
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Well see...
raqball said:
Hope you stay Scott as I love your ROM's as well...
But I would not blame you one bit if you ditched it!
I am seriously debating selling mine ( I paid full price ) and picking up a Nexus 4 but will wait until Google i/o before deciding what to do..
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See. You too, huh?
iB4STiD said:
Same thing here I'm used to using my own ROMs, so there is that adjustment
But Scott as you know there is only so much that can be done with a ROM at the end of the day Samsung will have to adjust some things which then gives us a better base to work from, I'm sticking with this one till nexus 5 is out
Just my 2 cents
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Yes, I totally agree and I think its Samsung lack of experience with Snapdragon on 4.2.2.
I have Nexus 10 which is not as powerful as this phone but its a Sammy processor and there is ZERO lag with dual cores at 1.4 or is it 1.5 GHZ. And thats at nearly 4x the pixels that this has.
I was just expecting this thing to scream when I first got it...
Disable and android go hand and hand since the g1. My only problem with the os is the hardware needed to make this a smooth experince , a lot of work needs to be done with android. Its a great platform but nothing is perfect I guess
But hey android is getting better and better.
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Into a big pile of Moderator Edit, masked profanity removed. Forcing me to void my warranty, possibly brick my phone, root and custom rom just so my battery lasts more than a few hours, so that I don't jump in and out of 1x, 3G, and 4g in areas that prior to the update, stayed solid 4GLTE.
Dumb. That's all I gotta say.
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What did Verizon say?
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Just wondering if I take the update to 4.3.. Will it be possible to odin back to ICS if I don't like it? I just odin'd back to ICS due to gps issues. I was rooted and unlocked and a crack flasher. .lol..I have wanted to try the new update, but read if you do so. .the root and unlock method won't work. Is there a root and unlock method for 4.3? If not, Will odin still work so I could just go back to ICS and update to 4.1.2 then root and unlock like normal or does the 4.3 update break Odin to?
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Short answer, once on VRUCML1 OTA you can no longer go to anything other than VRUCML1.
Long answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
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Thanks. .I saw that just after I made this post. .its a shame odin won't even get us there..my gps issues are even worse..I guess I need to get a good 000 Phillips screw driver. .for the screws. I tried to do that a while back and they seemed tight. I'm gonna get the right size and really loosen them tighten them to see if that fixes Samsung screwy situation. .no pun intended. Or. .yes. .. pun intended. Lol
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Trust me going to 4.3 won't help GPS. Only thing that helps is a nice screw tightening. I have to do it every now and then. Someone posted something in the GPS thread about propping up the antenna to get a better contact area. I might try that next.
Yeah..I have lost all respect for Samsung now... what a crap design. Does this problem follow into the S4 and S5 or Note? I might go back to Motorola...or try a HTC.
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Yeah..I have lost all respect for Samsung now... what a crap design. Does this problem follow into the S4 and S5 or Note? I might go back to Motorola...or try a HTC.
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It's likely going to affect every single Samsung phone from now on in Verizon's network. And nearly every other device in their network, everything that comes out is going to have a locked bootloader implemented by Verizon.
It's not really Samsung doing this, it's Verizon. HTC is amazing, absolutely love the m8 and am never looking back. S3 is still a great device, and the TouchWiz rom developers are some of the best. They really make TouchWiz 4.3 a much better experience.
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I'm complaining about the hardware/screw issue. .lol..I agree w the rest of what u say..
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I'm complaining about the hardware/screw issue. .lol..I agree w the rest of what u say..
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Lol! That's what I get for not reading first. Just assumed you were complaining about 4.3.
Yes the screw/gps situation sucks also.
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Well first of all I want to apologize to all the developers threads I gave hell to about the GPS not working lol I never had a really good Phillips head to try this retightening trick. The one I was using never allowed me to correctly tighten. I Loosened them all up and tighten them down. There was a couple that were very loose. GPS locks instantly now. 3 meters in doors. Has anybody tried putting a small dab of Loctite on the threads to keep them locked down? I bought the $10 screw/phillips head set from Home Depot with a triple zero size Philips head and it worked like a charm. Seems like the phone works better all around since I did that.
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Is there a way to change the title of this thread lol because obviously it has nothing to do with the ROM
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Anyone remember the name of the file(s) that need to be removed to stop the OTA message?
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Anyone remember the name of the file(s) that need to be removed to stop the OTA message?
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SDM 1.0
Is there any awesome developers out there working on a safe root method, a AOSP ROM and a custom recovery for our NOTE 7...???
A better question at this point might be what developers are going to get the Note7?
Lots of good developers around here, I hope a few of them get the Sprint version.
I wouldn't hold your breath, development for the newer US samsungs has been really slow. I'm sure it will happen, but I think a lot of devs stay away from these phones now. The sprint note 5 only had a few people developing for it.
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Better hope it's not bootloader locked like the s7 edge was
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I wouldn't hold your breath, development for the newer US samsungs has been really slow. I'm sure it will happen, but I think a lot of devs stay away from these phones now. The sprint note 5 only had a few people developing for it.
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One of the main reasons I sold my Note 5 after only about 2-3 months of having it
There not required to do it
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