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So today at CES they announced the only thing i actually care about; Liquipel. What's Liquipel? Well thats a good question, reader! Liquipel is a coating you put on your smartphone that basically waterproofs the interior and exterior. Any water that touches the coated area will just slide off. Why should you care? Well, our beloved Droid Charge is among the small list of supported devices! Of course they will expand that list over time but it's nice to see our phone getting some attention by being first on the list.
Heres a video test of Liquipel.
http://youtu.be/Ln0daAowdJI
Heres an article.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Waterproof-your-smartphone-or-tablet-using-Liquipel-coating_id25758
Yeah i'd say thats cool!
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Awesome.... Cant wait to text while swimming
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Interesting piece of information might buy it
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Wow that is cool
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This tech has a lot of potential, but I have to speak my skepticism. I watched their demo video showing an iPhone being submerged in water and still working. Seems all well and nifty, right? I highly doubt they would use anything but distilled water for their demo. Guess what, entire computer motherboards have been submerged in distilled water while in operation and lasted even over a minute. Distilled water is non-conductive. I suspect that a computer would continue operation in distilled water if the water, acting as a mild solvent (due to water's dipole moment) didn't dissolve some of the matter on the board like dust or chemicals.
While I would love to believe that this tech will pan out well, I will believe it when I see it for real. This tech, in my opinion, is almost certain to fail if a phone is submerged in salt-water.
I would love to be proved wrong, and I will be following this tech closely.
They should try urine just for better real world results. People like myself can speak from experience.
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I wouldn't call this waterproof by any means. More like highly water resistant-just so that you aren't afraid to use it in the rain.
And xdadevnube, even distilled water conducts enough electricity to be plenty damaging to computers. Maybe you're thinking of mineral oil.
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This tech has a lot of potential, but I have to speak my skepticism. I watched their demo video showing an iPhone being submerged in water and still working. Seems all well and nifty, right? I highly doubt they would use anything but distilled water for their demo. Guess what, entire computer motherboards have been submerged in distilled water while in operation and lasted even over a minute. Distilled water is non-conductive. I suspect that a computer would continue operation in distilled water if the water, acting as a mild solvent (due to water's dipole moment) didn't dissolve some of the matter on the board like dust or chemicals.
While I would love to believe that this tech will pan out well, I will believe it when I see it for real. This tech, in my opinion, is almost certain to fail if a phone is submerged in salt-water.
I would love to be proved wrong, and I will be following this tech closely.
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Distilled water, while being less conductive than most water, is still conductive. De-ionized water would be the least conductive, but still, itself is conductive. It may not be much, but it would still be enough to short out a computer or circuit board.
Sounds like a great idea, though I would be worried about scratchs that would possibly remove such a coating. That or if you remove your battery cover?
Only other thing is, if I have to send my phone into them, even if I overnight it, I'm out a phone for 2.x to 3.x days at least. Who can go without their cell phone for that long? I know I can't!
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Distilled water, while being less conductive than most water, is still conductive. De-ionized water would be the least conductive, but still, itself is conductive. It may not be much, but it would still be enough to short out a computer or circuit board.
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Thanks for the correction. I am rather curious how well the tech would hold up to both tap water and sea water though.
It would be a bummer to pay for the coating only to find our your device gets "hosed" from being exposed to water.
I wonder if the device could be protected from damage while the battery slowly discharged in the water (I presume the battery terminals will still leak current into the water.) So if you dropped your phone in a body of water until the battery was gone, then your device might still work after being allowed to dry?
Odds are that something besides the battery would short out first. Sea water would obviously be the worst as it is much more corrosive and conductive than tap water. Personally, even if I had this coating, I'd still treat my phone the same way and pull the battery immediately if it got into water, and then dry it out thoroughly before even thinking about putting the battery back in.
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Odds are that something besides the battery would short out first. Sea water would obviously be the worst as it is much more corrosive and conductive than tap water. Personally, even if I had this coating, I'd still treat my phone the same way and pull the battery immediately if it got into water, and then dry it out thoroughly before even thinking about putting the battery back in.
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Exactly. This coating isn't really meant to let you play with your phone underwater or get cool underwater photos. You still shouldn't try to get it wet, this just adds protection in-case it does happen. Kinda like a case, it doesn't make your phone invincible, you could still get cracks and/or damage your phone from dropping it but it really helps.
This looks really cool, and promising! I'm not really hard on my phones and usually keep them dry and take good care of them... but this interests me for that extra level of protection.
Lets face it, water/liquid is one of the biggest killers of phones!
Can't wait to hear from someone on here that gets theirs done, it will be nice to see an independent report vs. mfg claims.
looked at their site, and I don't see it being worth the cost. If my phone gets wet and needs replaced, I can pay the same amount for an insurance replacement.
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my skyrocket got dropped in water i pulled it out put it under a hair dryer and it works, kind of. i use it as my primary phone right now but sometimes it freezes and the touch sensitive keys dont work the it either a) shuts off or b) i have to take the battery out.
any idea what replacement part or parts i could possibly change to fix this?
A new phone you prolly toasted the pcb
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582881
Link to thread with link to AdamOutler video recovering from water. Take apart if you can. If left as is, you may expect further deterioration of the internal components and connections.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582881
Link to thread with link to AdamOutler video recovering from water. Take apart if you can. If left as is, you may expect further deterioration of the internal components and connections.
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Issue is he has been running it already
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Issue is he has been running it already
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Right. All the damage is already done. He didn't care for it properly immediately after it got wet.
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It ain't over till it's over.
I had the proverbial "Bad Day" yesterday, or rather, my poor Skyrocket did. It went from being perfect, not so much as a scuff on it to: a) Dropped onto my CEMENT driveway from a height of almost 6 feet. How is this possible, you may ask? I was leaning over the porch rail to open the recycling bin, instead of going around and down the stairs... PURE LAZINESS is what it was! Anyway, it slipped out of my top pocket, in spite of the fact that I was trying to hold it with my fore arm. Why of WHY did the Skyrocket have to be so slim and sleek! The phone hit the cement, bounced once or twice, and then slid, ON IT'S FACE about 3-4 feet, with me making that scream you do while breathing in; kind of a "Uuuoooaaarrrrggghhhh" is the best I can describe it. I followed this by grabbing the phone, taking it inside and throwing an ever loving **** fit. I proceeded to throw the phone on the couch (Even during a full blown hissy, I try to protect the damn thing!) and as I examined it, it was one of those "It could have been much worse" things, that we try to comfort ourselves with, and amazingly they do help, even if it's BS. The damage was 100% to the front black chrome bezel (around the front edge of screen) - A part that in fact CAN be replaced, but requires COMPLETE disassembly, including separating the Screen from the digitizer, which I have no clue how to do. It may NOT be possible, in fact without breaking a layer of adhesive. EVERY other part of the phone is replaceable, in modular sections, I know, and will explain in a moment.
So... bad day right... well that would had been enough since I love my phone as many folks on XDA understand, but nooooooo. I had to then drop it in 8 inches of standing water. Yep.
Was in the bottom of my above ground pool trying to restart a siphon for draining it, when, "SLIP" I %&*&#@ DID IT *@#&$% AGAIN!! *#$%&!!
Phone drops STRAIGHT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE HALF FOOT OR SO WATER IN THE POOL!!!!!!!!
Ok, so I almost NEVER keep my phone on me when doing physical work of any type. When I work on my cars engine compartment, or crawling around under it, I put my phone in the car. Even when I dry my car after pulling out of the car was the phone gets taken OUT of my top pocket and put somewhere safe. I guess I got complacent, since I hadn't had "an incident" in several years. Even with my 5" Dell Streak, beast that it was, I never let it slip from my standard place of Top shirt pocket. Every time I lean forward, my hand or forearm holds the phone from slipping. It is a motion as natural to me as shifting while driving, without even thinking about it. But even I know that "**** happens" so, lesson learned: I am going to bite the bullet and get a nice slim cover for the Skyrocket. NOW THAT IT WORKS AGAIN....
So after I pulled it out of the water I was in full panic mode: I quickly patted it in my shirt, but even while it was still wet and dripping, I RIPPED the back cover and battery out. In hindsight, I wish I had worked to dry the exterior quickly, and THEN opened it. The battery liquid detector wen bright read... CRAP! The PHONE liquid detector stayed WHITE… Ahh, finally caught a break. So after a basic dry everything I can reach (and the Sim came out wet, and the microSD came out wet, not good signs) I tried a quick power up.... The SkyICE animation began, then suddenly changed colors and turned pink/red.. WHOA.. STOP THE BOOT! So I yanked the battery.
After quite a bit of further drying, warm gentle air across the back for a venturi effect (sure!) another try and the screen behind the Samsung logo was bright, blood red, instead of black...
THIS convinced me to take the sucker apart, and for the most part I did really well. I did break ONE tab on the "body" of the phone - that holds the back section over the PCB on, but fortunately there are 7 screws, and it fit tightly when reassembling. I DID frin s coupe drops of water, though they did not seem to be in spots that would short anything, like on the stainless cover over the Qualcomm Processor, but those were just what I could see, without magnification. I dried those, blew warm gentle air over the PCB, and then gently warmed the parts over a low wattage bulb in a lamp.
I am SO impressed with the construction of this baby! I WOULD prefer more alloy, and less plastic for frame, shell & body parts, but what AMAZED me were the connections for all the ribbon cables, between modular PCB's (Like the one on the bottom with a antenna, USB port, Speaker, Mic and capacitive touch buttons, and others... The ribbon just comes around from behind, and attaches via a snap in connection to a receptacle soldered onto the corresponding PCB. In the video of the guy taking it apart, he just goes around and pops up 5 or 6 of these in about 10 seconds total time elapsing. Anyway, check out the middle section of the video I post here, right after he pulls the rear frame off... you'll see...
Bottom line? It's maybe NOT too late for the OP... Granted the more he runs it with a short or worse, the more potential damage. But in my experience it is REALLY difficult to get ALL the water out of a current design phone. It just travels from section to section, His best option (besides either trashing it or paying for repairs is doing what I did. Parts are readily available from Hong Kong, and short of the Screen/Digitizer, most are reasonably priced. Good luck with it. Get a jewelers screwdriver, and a plastic "separator" before starting. My only warning: When separating the main frames, after removing the 7 screws holding the two main frames together, use a CURVED separator, and try to bend the frame that’s the back of the phone OUTWARD a little bit. In other words, pull it OUT as well as spreading the two halves. I did not have a curved plastic tool, just a straight one, and as I pulled the two halves apart, I did not bend it out (away from an inner opening, that tabs go into from the back frame, and I snapped one of the inner openings edges. Think of it as tiny tabs that you want to pull up out of a depression before pulling the parts directly away from each other.
Aww, hell, just watch the video closely, I repeated some sections a few times before trying the procedures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf6jqYejWNU
Sorry for the lengthy post, but if I can save ONE person the pain of losing a good friend, then I think my life van finally have true meaning. Or something like that.
Why would you power it on so soon without even taking it apart to dry out?
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You see this guys pinky nail?!? Whou. I couldn't stop looking at it. I bet i can guess what its for
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should've left it off and left it in sack of rice for a day or so. RIP your phone...
Bricks don't fly or float.
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At least he didn't drop it in the water during a mini bath
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should've left it off and left it in sack of rice for a day or so. RIP your phone...
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Well, I dropped my skyrocket in water a couple days ago but fished it out instantly.
Learning from past mistakes, I immediately turned it off and took the battery, sim and memory card out. After I took a paper towel and tried to dry as many cracks and openings as possible until I saw I could not get any paper towel wet. I put the phone and battery in a sealed bag filled with rice and left it for 3 days. When I took it out, the phone was covered in rice dust so I took compressed air and tried to blow it clean. Praying it worked, I put the battery in and turned it on. Miraculously it booted like nothing ever happened.
I heard online to not use a hair drier as you will blow the water into components which were initially not wet.
"I heard online to not use a hair drier as you will blow the water into components which were initially not wet."
This. Definitely avoid hairdryers. Rice is like magic. I have only dumped one phone in water (it was an iPhone 3GS on and playing a video at the time! Then I had a hellish time getting it to turn off... kept turning back on.) I popped the screen and gave it a rice bath for a couple days. It was as good as new after that. (Well, as good as any iPhone can be, anyway. )
My GALAXY S4 ACTIVE is a WATER BOTTLE!
Before you ask if I properly sealed the phone or did I press above the ATT logo, the simple answer is YES. I am a seaman, snowboarder, adventurer and gadget lover just like you who fully understand how water is hazardous to our beloved electronics and the steps it takes to prevent accidents. So please read on
The new Galaxy S4 Active attracted my attention because of its waterproof capabilities (as in the advertisements) and the ability to change batteries seem to suit my needs so I grabbed one and decided to take the new phone for a spin.
Test 1 – Messaging in bathroom with wet hands (No direct spraying & submersion at all)
I made sure everything is sealed properly and pressed below the flash, inspected every seal. Then I took it to the bathroom and typed a few messages with wet hands briefly to test the water resistant ability. I dried it with a tower after us and everything was normal.
After an hour or so, I suddenly realized there are strange spikes on the top left part of the screen. They did not look like water damage and the spikes persists in recovery mode as well so it is not software issue. The spikes eventually went away slowly after ~5 hours. This started to get me worried.
Test 2 – Submersion Test (1.5 cm water depth)
So I did the seal inspection again. Left it submerged in a plastic tray with about 1.5 cm height of clean water for around one minutes (Not 1.5 Meters!). Everything looked normal. After a while, the screen started showing spikes again but this time there are lots of “fog” marks at the back of the display! Water got in! The watermarks move if I press my finger on the screen hard enough! As with all electronics and phones, water leaking into the device mean it will quickly disrupt the functionality of the components and eventually shut the whole system down. Rust and deposits will then form if water is not drained out immediately. However, my Galaxy S4 Active CONTINUED TO RUN NORMALLY except for the “flooded” screen. Very confusing indeed!
Again, I waited more than half a day and then the watermarks started to clear away VERY SLOWLY. I put it in a warm place (without overheating and melting it) hoping it to dry out. On day 3, all the fog and marks on the screen are gone. The phone continued to function well. WTF?
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This picture shows the initial spikes at the top left edge in Test 1. Now also on the right side and the “foggy” watermarks all over the screen after Test 2.
The Tear Down
So I decided to tear it down to solve the mystery. The tear down was carefully performed without damaging it. It’s much easier than taking down iPhones. I found that the side of the phone is completely sealed off by a red gasket. Water should not be able to seep in from the sides. The earphone plug is indeed fully potted and waterproof, the microphone and camera are sealed off also. It looks safe. What’s more interesting is that the two water damage stickers are INTACT! No signs of water entering the circuit boards either. No traces of rusting or depositions. It’s CLEAN!
Tear down was simple. The Red Gasket is clearly seen.
The PCB shows no sign of water damage.
The Water Damage Indicator Sticker is clean!
I suspect that the Water Seeped into the screen from the front. Since the screen is completely bonded with the touch panel, there is no way to take them apart without breaking things. This is BAD! The water must have seeped into the screen ONLY. So no matter how I do the seals properly, the screen will still fill up with water while the phone electronics are dry and continue to run normally. A few S4 Active owners have reported this problem also. This is CLEARLY NOT USER ERROR! Has this happened to you? I have read similar stories of the screen flooding on the internet.
WHAT NOW?
Test 3 will take place and I am going to submerge the phone again and take video of it to proof that water does get into the display despite being fully & properly sealed.
This is helpful but is not the first tear down. Zedomax did a tear down a while back and it is on Youtube.
I can clearly see my gasket is not complete around the screen, I think if I put mine in water I would have the same spikes as you. The rest of the phone is sealed. I did put the phone in water (up to the side of the bezel to test and see if any water would get in and it held it off.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
This is helpful but is not the first tear down. Zedomax did a tear down a while back and it is on Youtube.
I can clearly see my gasket is not complete around the screen, I think if I put mine in water I would have the same spikes as you. The rest of the phone is sealed. I did put the phone in water (up to the side of the bezel to test and see if any water would get in and it held it off.
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What do you mean the gasket is not complete around the screen? The screen glass just seem to be wrapped around fully just like other galaxy phone. There are no visible defects I can see. But I think that's where the water is going in.
It's quite strange because I always used my Galaxy Note 2 in shower and that screen held off all the water... So this phone is waterproof as advertised. BUT It didn't say it won't store any water! :crying:
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What do you mean the gasket is not complete around the screen? The screen glass just seem to be wrapped around fully just like other galaxy phone. There are no visible defects I can see. But I think that's where the water is going in.
It's quite strange because I always used my Galaxy Note 2 in shower and that screen held off all the water... So this phone is waterproof as advertised. BUT It didn't say it won't store any water! :crying:
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The glue adhesive around the glad has a long gap in it which leads me to believe it will seep it
This is EXACTLY what happened to my phone and what it looked like. I will take pictures of the damaged unit when I get home. See my other posts for what happened.
I put the phone in rice for a few days, which got rid of the water bubbles. There was damage (the lines) to the screen, but oddly it functioned fine otherwise. My physical buttons were damaged. The white indicator did not turn pink, except for on the battery.
It is not user error. Maybe some bad glue...
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Att and Samsung are replacing water damaged actives for a one time exchange.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395537
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possible water condensation
Is it possible that the moisture in the bathroom led to water condensation? That would be different than submerging the phone in water. I submerged mine in a bowl of water and everything worked.
Ok, I got home and powered up the phone for the first time in like 5 days. It has been sitting in rice (just because). Almost all of the screen damage is gone.
The physical back and menu buttons still do not work, but if you didn't know, you could not tell the screen was "damaged" at some point.
Freaking weird.
Brought mine into the pool couple times and haven't had any issues
OP, can you confirm if the USB port is waterproof like the headphone port? Like for example if I went swimming with the USB flap open would my phone survive assuming everything else was sealed?
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OP, can you confirm if the USB port is waterproof like the headphone port? Like for example if I went swimming with the USB flap open would my phone survive assuming everything else was sealed?
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The USB connector is not waterproof. I have not removed the white housing as seen in the pictures. But there are no indications that it can take water. Also it's not a good idea to submerge USB connectors as they will corrode the pins.
So the current finding is that some of our s4 active phones have faulty sealing around the glass of the front display. The back cover and ports withheld water from getting in. And since the front glass touch panel and display are fused together. It must Have also blocked the trapped water from getting through into the circuitry at the back otherwise the phone would be dead already.
I personally don't believe the glue are so flimsy at the glass since I used my galaxy note 2 and other phones /tablets in shower many times and not a single drop of water gets into the screen. But since this is the most appear ant cause, I will apply silicon glue to the edges of the s4 active glass and see if it helps.
Keep u all posted and pls post if ur s4 active is ok or having issues as well thanks guys.
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...since I used my galaxy note 2 and other phones /tablets in shower many times and not a single drop of water gets into the screen.
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Why exactly do you need to take your devices in the shower so much? That is kind of weird.
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Why exactly do you need to take your devices in the shower so much? That is kind of weird.
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Music, texting, hell sometimes I just surf the web standing under the nice hot shower. I always take my phone in the shower.
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Music, texting, hell sometimes I just surf the web standing under the nice hot shower. I always take my phone in the shower.
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Exactly, that's when you get to read some news, play some music undisturbed in the morning and after a day of work or going to the pool on weekends. That's why I always valued "true" waterproof-ness.
I am still searching for a suitable glue to seal the gaps on the glass
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Music, texting, hell sometimes I just surf the web standing under the nice hot shower. I always take my phone in the shower.
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OP, can you confirm if the USB port is waterproof like the headphone port? Like for example if I went swimming with the USB flap open would my phone survive assuming everything else was sealed?
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Just checked. The USB port cover MUST be properly plugged in. It is NOT waterproof without the plug and you will leave a hole for water to get in your entire device.
I've brought my S4 Active into the pool several times, made minute long videos, did underwater tests in the sink, and not a single drop of water or defect.
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I've brought my S4 Active into the pool several times, made minute long videos, did underwater tests in the sink, and not a single drop of water or defect.
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Refer to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383019
It is not that the S4 Active isn't working (for perhaps most people), its that there are defective units. Until recently, AT&T and Samsung DENIED any replacement, citing water damage was not their fault. Which is true, but if it was already a defective device and you are advertising it as "everything proof" --- you see where the confusion comes it. It's not negligence on the users part, but manufacture error, and in my opinion, advertising error. It's water-resistant, not "proof".
Denying claims based on a long held water damage warranty claim shifts all liability to the user. Might be good practice for most phones, but not this one. It's bad business. I am glad they decided to replace defective units without hassle. It took me a week to get them to issue an replacement for me (and a bad review writing).
ATT is only doing it to avoid a class action suit. If they don't want people to dunk their phones in water then just don't advertise as 'water proof'. They are making the phone look like it is invincible in water with all the demos of the phone in a bowl of water. This is why people are led to do the unspeakable things to their phones such as the OP's did.
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Music, texting, hell sometimes I just surf the web standing under the nice hot shower. I always take my phone in the shower.
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Okay... whatever works for ya. I'm in the shower all of 5-7 minutes. I can live without a screen for that long. Lol
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Here are my 2cents
Well definitely. Shower is just a small part of it. But as the phone suggests, "Active" can be interpreted as going to the sea, lakes, mountains and outdoor a lot which means there will be water and rain. It's not a tough phone but it should perform as advertised with reasonable waterproofing capabilities.
I Do agree that water damage should NOT be in part of the warranty because there are a lot of possible scenarios that the phone manufacturer can't possibly cover. For example:
Not properly sealing the back cover, ports etc. (I drowned my Galaxy S1 years ago by not completely sealing the waterproof bag properly many years ago.)
Take a plunge with the phone in your hands (impact force may cause a leak. I drowned a iPhone 4S with Lifeproof case by plunging into a pool last year *fixed*)
Dunking it in champagne buckets full of ice (Well it might be ok)
Excessive vibrations/impacts that cause non water damaged failures
Not rinsing the phone after each submersion (may corrode the seals)
Sand and dirt getting onto the sea while you are at a beach or so (compromises the seal. Had a personal experience too.)
Possibly more cases of course...
LESSONS LEARNED...
BUT, if a user properly sealed it and go through the proper care procedures & didn't do one of the things listed above but the phone simply leaked. I would say It's most likely a Defect! We have a user confirming that if he submerge his phone up to just below the screen, it's waterproof. We have isolated the problem through a logical step by step approach. It is disappointing to me rather than getting furious honestly that the phone has failed me. I am also happy to know some people's Active are waterproof as advertised.
I have found a suitable silicone glue that I will use to apply to the edge of the screen bezel to see if I can make the screen waterproof. I hope I can finally start to use the phone again after a week from purchase.
Keep you all posted. :highfive:
Has any brave soul tried this feature? If so give us your experience!
Personally I have not, knowing my luck my device would be the one with faulty ports/leaks ?
Some people have tried it and damaged their phone. Others have been fine. The phone is water resistant not waterproof so I would recommend against dipping it in water.
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I personally placed my wife's S7 Edge screen under a running tap for a few seconds. Phone still works fine. Having said that the iPhone 6S has some great water resistant features and it doesn't even have an IP rating. Yet my old iPhone 5s died after siting in a little puddle of water on the bathroom basin bench, which was barely as deep as the back cover. At least with some certified proof of water resistance protection on the S7's, I won't be taking mine swimming or showering, but its surely great to know that it could
handle some very common water contact.
If it spoils easily regardlessof having water resistance why does samsung make all these ads with lil john dunking his phone in the aquarium and whatnot. Theyre tempting us to do so and if the phone is broken they should never void the warranty as long as it adheres to the phone being not deeper than 1.5 meters for not longer than 30 mins
As above, i've run mine under the tap a few times and it's been fine. I've never submerged it though, I don't dare yet. I also don't have a need to, so don't anticipate I will anytime soon.
I finally had it tested and it was an accidental situation which makes it seem useful and not just intentionally testing it for the sake of it. We left my wife's S7 on the coffee table and there was a cup of water on there. We came back and the water got knocked over, the phone was kind of in a puddle of it. I was actually excited to test it, but pissed that my cat has been ****ing with filled cups of water lately.
Tried dipping it while i was in the gym pool lol charged it after 2 hrs moisture detected, wiped the inside with some tissue all good ?
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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that's all true but they get you with the "water pressure" crap. running it under a slowly pouring tap should be fine, but running it under heavy/fast flowing water flowing from the tap could be a problem, also the entire submersion thing, drop it in slow it should be fine, throw it in water and it could cause issues.
The IP68 rating is simply a bonus for me. I will treat it no differently than any other phone but it's good to know that, should an accident occur, and it ends up in the sink or something similar, it should be alright. Being able to use it in the rain is quite nice too. However, people who put their new phone in a bowl of water the day they get it to prove some sort of point deserve any issues they end up with.
1.5m 30mins. With that rating i would say it's safe to bring it with you when you swim(not dive), and would not recommend to bring it to snorkel. I saw someone dropped their phone to a 40 feet river.. that for sure are gonna break the phone..
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BTW, make sure you never subject it to soapy water. Its water resistance relies on the surface tension of the water. Soap lowers water's surface tension, allowing the water to flow into places it normally wouldn't, as this guy found out the hard way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/water-damage-story-t3337463
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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doing the same as you better to test the warranty while its still hot
it froze on me on 2nd shower, high pressure test video recording but im sure it was the fact that ive got like 5% space left on the memory.
I also run it under cold fast water if it heats up, i do block the charge port, then its cooled down enough for some day charging...
its quite a well built phone and I would be shocked if it does get water damage, but im worried, samy warranty is good service.
I couldn't resist testing this out. After all, if it's not working as advertised I'd want a replacement. So I filled up the sink and then carefully placed the phone at the bottom. The screen doesn't work while under water but once I took it out everything was back to normal. Awesome feature!
I don't need the water resistance features of the phone, but I do believe that if it's water resistant then it's less likely for moisture and corrosion to hamper with buttons, contacts and other internals. I had 3-4 phones with unresponsive power buttons over time, so if Samsung used good, oxidation-resistant materials for water resistance purposes then it will probably be beneficial for overall mechanical health of the phone as well.
Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
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Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
Ontopic: I tested my phone a lot. When I first got it I washed it with clean water everyday. I also washed it with soap a few times, I never had any problems.
After I received my dbrand skin I also washed it a couple of times, once with soap as well, to make sure the skin is water resistant (it is).
Now that the "new toy" syndrome has passed, I use my phone normally, but if someone asked me to take a selfie while the phone is underwater, I would do it
Dropped my phone in the bath and continued to leave it in there to show it off to the mrs as her iphone can't do it. Screen came out working fine including buttons, however the speaker was very distorted which kinda made me panic but it dried out overnight and all was well in the morning.
Needless to say I never lost my nerve round my partner and kept echoing your iPhone can't do that....
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
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Haha, well since it was in my hand it's not like it got very wet. With the water resistance, I really didn't care. Gave me my first opportunity to test it out.
My son wanted to get a video underwater at the pool last weekend.
https://youtu.be/3UL4qcH7rJs
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Went for a swim in the beach yesterday,
No more than 3feet deep
No more than 15 minutes
Today the headphone jack doesn't work
All music comes out of the speaker with the headphones plugged in.
Rebooting doesn't help either..
What can I do?
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Leave the phone overnight in a bowl of rice and then check if things work fine.
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You said beach so I assume you dipped it in salt water, try washing it with fresh water and leave it dry overnight. The headphone jack may be grounded due to the salt water residue left inside the headphone jack.
Also I belief Samsung states it should not be submerged in salt water! They only allow clean water also for their waranty.
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Went for a swim in the beach yesterday,
No more than 3feet deep
No more than 15 minutes
Today the headphone jack doesn't work
All music comes out of the speaker with the headphones plugged in.
Rebooting doesn't help either..
What can I do?
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Claim warranty and don't try anything yourselft, The best solution
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Jairus24 said:
You said beach so I assume you dipped it in salt water, try washing it with fresh water and leave it dry overnight. The headphone jack may be grounded due to the salt water residue left inside the headphone jack.
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Seems like that was the problem. Washed it with fresh water and let it dry for 1 hour. Turned it on and it all works fine now
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I'm pretty sure when Samsung made the phone waterproof they did it so that you could drop it in the toilet our get caught ing the rain or something. I don't think they planned on people swimming with their phones really...
What is wrong with people, it clearly says Water Resistant on the box, not Water Proof. There's a difference.
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The IP rating of the phone is not for salt water as others have said. I used a previous phone with the same rating in my swimming pool, which I stupidly forgot is salt water and the same thing happened. After a good rinse and dry things were ok. The headphone jack is the most vulnerable for making the phone do weird things - I used the corner of a paper towel first with freshwater to clean out the jack, and then isopropyl alcohol to ensure it was clean and dry.
I think we're a couple few years away from phones that are supposed to go swimming with us, but that's probably the next best thing. Keep it on the beach.
got caught in the rains (quite heavy), riding a motorcycle with no waterproof jackets. Phone was in the front pocket of my trousers. 40 min ride. Soaked to the bones. Reached home and wiped S7 and saw that the screen was flickering. Switched it off (65% battery) and put it in a bowl of rice. Next morning, 0% battery, was not turning on. Continued with the treatment till 3pm. Put it on charge and turned it on - Screen/Display was blotched with a pink washed out shade on everything and blotches when viewing blacks. Left it in the sun for a while, put it in the rice bowl for another night. This morning, phone turned on, display is fine now but battery is just not charging over 50%. Stuck at 52% for ages. Tried cable charging and wireless. Same result. All this for an IP 68 phone??? Come on samsung! I had a Z1C before this and have dunked it in sea water, taken underwater photos and various rides in the rain. Not once did it stutter! Missing my Z1C. Duh!
the phone should be washed with tap water if used in salty water, it even says on the documentation.
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got caught in the rains (quite heavy), riding a motorcycle with no waterproof jackets. Phone was in the front pocket of my trousers. 40 min ride. Soaked to the bones. Reached home and wiped S7 and saw that the screen was flickering. Switched it off (65% battery) and put it in a bowl of rice. Next morning, 0% battery, was not turning on. Continued with the treatment till 3pm. Put it on charge and turned it on - Screen/Display was blotched with a pink washed out shade on everything and blotches when viewing blacks. Left it in the sun for a while, put it in the rice bowl for another night. This morning, phone turned on, display is fine now but battery is just not charging over 50%. Stuck at 52% for ages. Tried cable charging and wireless. Same result. All this for an IP 68 phone??? Come on samsung! I had a Z1C before this and have dunked it in sea water, taken underwater photos and various rides in the rain. Not once did it stutter! Missing my Z1C. Duh!
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If its only gotten wet with rainwater i'd be straight on to samsung to claim repair/replacement under warranty. its water resistant for a reason. that shouldn't happen
Samsung says 30 minutes as the maximum time. You mentioned u were drenched in heavy rains for 40 mins..
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Some of you think water resistant is the same as waterproof and there lies your problem. By the way, rain water, sea water, chlorine water, etc will definitely have a negative affect on the phone. I don't know why people think the phone is some magical device that can swim in the deep ocean or something.
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Waterproofness/resistance fan here: ip68 means you can submerge your phone. Why does the manufacturer says the rating if the specs are only for watersplash? Because of the warranty. An ip68 phone should survive water submerssion. I have a 1.5 years old Xperia z2 which i still submerge, and a 3+ years old xperia z which i also still submerge.
Attached photo: In the top corner there is a screenshot from an underwater movie i took with my z2 this summer