[Q] Battery too thick for battery compartment - Samsung Galaxy S II Plus

It seems like the battery in my phone is ever so slightly too large for the battery compartment, which results in the back cover not closing completely, or at least not staying closed.
I've been trying to sand the sticker on the battery down a bit, but I'm worried about the NFC antenna. Can I safely sand down the sticker until I can see the antenna? Can I damage or even break the antenna completely?

Why don't you buy another battery....
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Temperature protection in car?

My job has very strict security and I am not allowed to bring my phone inside, so my options are leave it on the car or leave it at home. I have to travel a fair distance to my job, so prefer not to leave it at home, but I am concerned about extreme heat and cold in the car affecting my phone. Any suggestions for protecting the phone while left in the car? My work days can range anywhere from 8 1/2 hours to 16+ hours.
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Nobody has any suggestions?
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the heat itself shouldnt do anything if your phones just hybernating i suggest just putting it under the seat or the glove box were the sun cant get to it.
I think the thing you might need to be concerned with is the battery... extreme temperatures can adversely affect battery life/longevity. Would you be able to just bring the battery in if you removed it from your phone? I imagine the security issue with the phone primarily has to do with photographing or otherwise transmitting private information, such as trade secrets, right?
Yea, I can't see any real issues with leaving your phone in a car with hot or cold conditions. As said above, it *may* affect battery life, but even that would be minimal, barely nothing.
If you're concerned, wrap it in a blanket or towel, this will stop it getting either extremely hot, or extremely cold.
I also think, that it could get too hot. I would put it in a cooler bag. (without cool akkus or something like that.. just in the isolated bag (you know what I mean ? Those for a few beer cans.... )
But this also shouldn't be necessary, if you place your phone sunsafe...
Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, the phone ban is for the reason above. It shouldn't be an issue to take the battery though. I will also try an insulated cooler. I always use a sunshade as well. Even worse than worrying about my phone is the agony of being separated from it for such long hours at a time, lol.
Thanks again!
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[FIX] Thicker 1730mAh batteries can cause current leakage while charging - Solution

I noticed a small current leakage when charging my Sensation with a 1730mAh battery, and some strange effects if I handled the phone for extended periods while charging - like the power menu popping up when I hadn't pressed the power button.
It only happens when charging on mains (direct AC), not when charging on the PC, probably due to the increased amperage.
The battery is about 1mm thicker, and I suspected it was somehow causing something to make contact with the case. I could feel the leaking current by lightly rubbing the metal case with my finger and feeling a sort of 'fuzziness'. This only happened when it was charging, and I was able to reproduce this problem with both the HTC OEM Evo 3D 1730mAh battery and the 3rd party Anker / Chichitec battery (all about 1mm thicker than the stock 1520mAh battery).
After reading this thread, it dawned on me that the slightly thicker battery was probably separating the contact between the case and the grounding pin. The battery fits perfectly and snugly into the Sensation, but the increased thickness was just enough to reduce the case's contact with the grounding pin.
I was very careful to bend the grounding pin out slightly with a tiny screwdriver as described/pictured in the first post of the thread.
Now there's no more current leakage!
Have been using an Anker for about 3 weeks now and have not noticed any type of issue like this.
Thanks for the info though I'll take a look into it.
Sdobron said:
Have been using an Anker for about 3 weeks now and have not noticed any type of issue like this.
Thanks for the info though I'll take a look into it.
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The issue only arose for me when charging on mains, and I held the phone in my hand and was using it for extended periods. If the phone wasn't plugged-in to the charger, I never had any problem.
You can detect if there is a potential for the problem by checking for the current leakage while it's charging, as I describe above. While charging your phone, place it on the desk and lightly rub your finger along the top of the metal case... If you feel a sort of 'fuzziness' (which disappears when you unplug your phone), then you have current leakage and might want to consider checking the solution I link to above.
sowen222 said:
I noticed a small current leakage when charging my Sensation with a 1730mAh battery, and some strange effects if I handled the phone for extended periods while charging - like the power menu popping up when I hadn't pressed the power button.
The battery is about 1mm thicker, and I suspected it was somehow causing something to make contact with the case. I could feel the leaking current by lightly rubbing the metal case with my finger and feeling a sort of 'fuzziness'. This only happened when it was charging, and I was able to reproduce this problem with both the HTC OEM Evo 3D 1730mAh battery and the 3rd party Anker / Chichitec battery (all about 1mm thicker than the stock 1520mAh battery).
After reading this thread, it dawned on me that the slightly thicker battery was probably separating the contact between the case and the grounding pin. The battery fits perfectly and snugly into the Sensation, but the increased thickness was just enough to reduce the case's contact with the grounding pin.
I was very careful to bend the grounding pin out slightly with a tiny screwdriver as described/pictured in the first post of the thread.
Now there's no more current leakage!
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Did you try with the stock battery if there is any "fuziness" feeling?
I'm using stock battery and had fuzziness feeling when charging through wall. But its not a big deal for me anyway.
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omar302 said:
Did you try with the stock battery if there is any "fuziness" feeling?
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The stock 1520mAh battery didn't have the fuziness feeling, because the grounding pin was making contact. The slightly thicker 1730mAh batteries (about 1mm thicker) separated the contact.
That said, some people experienced screen issues with the stock battery, because the grounding pin wasn't making contact even with the stock 1520mAh battery.
Most people don't have the problem with the regular battery, but I expect more people will experience the problem with the slightly thicker batteries.
Either way, same fix.
I get this fuzziness on my phone with the stock battery!
I'd been wondering what was causing this for the past few weeks.
Thanks for the tip about the grounding pin, I'd seen it but hadn't made the connection.
I wasn't too worried about it because my Hero also had the same feeling around its metal screen border when charging. Is it bad for the phone?
azwan92 said:
I'm using stock battery and had fuzziness feeling when charging through wall. But its not a big deal for me anyway.
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The fuzziness means your phone's case is not grounding properly. You may not have a problem now, but it can cause touchscreen issues (including slow degradation of response). It especially arises if you use your phone while charging (so you ground the case to the screen with your hand).
Anyway, the fix is easy, but it's up to you.
Crazy. Thanks for sharing (rushes off to check my sensation)
I used a knife to do this
I didn't have any problems but I am using anker 1900mah
so I feel best to be safe, ground problems can be dangerous
hope this helps
Yeah i get it too with the stock battery too. What every happened to quaility control with products these days?
This is because of improper EARTHING of electic connection/supply at your place.
I face this problem too sometimes, no matter which battery i use. You can feel a slight electric current on the centre back portion only because that is metal....

PowerSkin Case

A must have!!!..All the battery life you need, and a sick case!
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I heard people saying that after a while the case was screwing up their battery by constantly connecting/disconnecting to it. This led to the battery being discharged even faster.
Can you confirm this? Do you keep the case on always or do you put it on only when your battery is dead or do you put it on then take it off when the case is dead?
I thought about it but that case is too thick for my taste.
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No problems so far..2 weeks old..
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kr3w1337 said:
I heard people saying that after a while the case was screwing up their battery by constantly connecting/disconnecting to it. This led to the battery being discharged even faster.
Can you confirm this? Do you keep the case on always or do you put it on only when your battery is dead or do you put it on then take it off when the case is dead?
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It has an off/on button on the case.. when i tried it the phone just seemed to think it was plugged in.. was kinda cool and well made, but it doubles the thickness of the phone which was way too much for me.. returned it.
I like the feel of it..phone is almost to thin and it slips from my hands.
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How integrated is the battery?

Hi, I was how hard it is to replace the battery on the photon q.
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I would say next to impossible - even if you did crack the back open and "replace" the battery with a bigger one (feasible), you would have to put a bigger cover on it - as I assume you want to put in a larger battery?
I think they make one of those cases that has a battery in it for the Q... Other than that, I would say carry around one of those emergency recharger thingys.
Battery can be replaced easily, it just needs a T5 screwdriver and something thin and plastic to remove the back cover (of course, you don't crack it), if you want just to replace it with another stock one.
Skrilax_CZ said:
Battery can be replaced easily, it just needs a T5 screwdriver and something thin and plastic to remove the back cover (of course, you don't crack it), if you want just to replace it with another stock one.
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This.
If you peel the back off, its just plugged in and screwed down.
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The only thing that could make problems is that the nfc antenna is placed on the baterry. The rest is really simple, just two t5 screws and the back as said before
I guess I assumed he was trying to replace it with a physically and capacity-wise larger battery...
Obviously you can replace the battery with the same battery... lol. It does take a bit more work than a 'normal' battery replacement, but it's certainly not out of the question.
Now I would be interested to see how someone shoehorns in a larger battery!
actually what about a combination of the two? would it be possible to drill 2 micro holes in the cover and connect a second battery in paralleled to the first? (like i do in a n ebike, just soldier 2 thing wires and connect them the phone 's contact. ), i'll attach it to the cover somehow maybe via velcro. this way when it will be charged, both of them will be charged.
emaayan said:
actually what about a combination of the two? would it be possible to drill 2 micro holes in the cover and connect a second battery in paralleled to the first? (like i do in a n ebike, just soldier 2 thing wires and connect them the phone 's contact. ), i'll attach it to the cover somehow maybe via velcro. this way when it will be charged, both of them will be charged.
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You can't just put two batteries in parallel without additional circuits to prevent one sending current to another (which will happen whenever their voltages are not equal and is like shorting the battery (see Kirchoff's laws), because the internal resistance of the battery is low when charged). And then you have to secure the same thing for charging.
Also other issues like not knowing the current state of the both of the batteries etc.
I someone would be to "mod" the cover, I'd suggest checking out on RAZR MAXX 3300 mAh battery (the phone is 4.3"). Can't find the size of RAZR MAXX EB40 battery anywhere
Also looks like somebody did that for Atrix HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jql0jxpBpA), but that is using EB20 battery like the original RAZR, we have a different one (strangely, named EB41).
emaayan said:
Hi, I was how hard it is to replace the battery on the photon q.
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I took some photos a while ago with the back off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850305
toerb said:
The only thing that could make problems is that the nfc antenna is placed on the baterry. The rest is really simple, just two t5 screws and the back as said before
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The NFC antenna comes off pretty easily.
Will it be possible to mod by screwing the 2 metal pins down to the position where EB41 was originally connected, then housing the similar looking but ordinary after-the-market batteries not EB**?
Then, we can easily replace batteries on the go.
AW: How integrated is the battery?
I have to say till now I am comfortable with the built in battery. It lasts a normal workday, so no problems.
But as always bigger battery would be better. Personally I wouldn't put another back on to increase battery lifetime, but exchanging the original one with a stronger one (maybe with some small 'mods' inside the original housing) is a way I would consider.
So if anyone has news on increasing lifetime without to strong mods I would appreciate suggestions.
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We were looking on the size of RAZR (XT910/XT912) EB20 battery, it's sized:
96 x 56.5 x 2.5 mm and the MAXX battery (3300 mAh) is just thicker. Unfortunately, Photon Q battery is sized cca. 71 x 46.5 x 3.0 mm (measured roughly, didn't find it on the net). That's 1 cm overlap on side and 1.5 cm overlap on lenght, won't fit there, unlike on the Atrix HD
rats
that echoes my research

Punctured Battery, Do i have to replace

I have ever so slightly punctured the battery while trying to remove it when i was doing a screen replacement.
I'm assuming i do, but do i need to replace the battery.
You should to be safe yes
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Quickly replace the battery and get the device and outer shell cleaned with alcohol or similar agent. The liquid/acid in the battery is poisonous!
vin4yak said:
Quickly replace the battery and get the device and outer shell cleaned with alcohol or similar agent. The liquid/acid in the battery is poisonous!
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Thanks, i am changing the screen anyway you the area with it on is getting binned. Will have to wait 4 days without a phone now to get the replacement battery :crying:
The same thing happened to me when I had a Nexus 4. But I just continued to use, and with the time, the battery life was worse and worse... Until the battery inflate and explode. At least I got a reason to buy the Nexus 5

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