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Does anyone experience extreme heat while plugged in? I know this has been discussed elsewhere bute I like the idea of a dedicated thread. Mine gets as hot as 50°c or 122°F. That's blistering hot to me. Does anyone knows if google plans a fix? I'd be happy not to have to worry about my phone frying in the cradle.
Totally not worth a dedicated thread since it's being discussed ad nauseum in the other thread.
SPAS79 said:
Does anyone experience extreme heat while plugged in? I know this has been discussed elsewhere bute I like the idea of a dedicated thread. Mine gets as hot as 50°c or 122°F. That's blistering hot to me
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Where are you measuring the temp from? Mine gets hot in the car dock too but not overly. I figure google will have tested it. So am not really concerned.
If you want to mitigate the heat while it is charging in the car dock, simply minimise what the phone is doing. ie no nav/gps and screen off. You could for example do this 5 or 10 minutes before your destination and it may be somewhat cooler when you take it out of the dock. Obviously this may not be appropriate as you might need to use it at this point. Just a suggestion though if the heat is a real concern to you.
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Totally not worth a dedicated thread since it's being discussed ad nauseum in the other thread.
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Well If that's the case then mods please move the thread or merge it. My phone gets really hot and I'm measuring it with juice plotter. I Guess it's pretty accurate.
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My phone gets really hot and I'm measuring it with juice plotter. I Guess it's pretty accurate.
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I am sure is accurate. But I would only get concerned myself, if the phone case itself was alarmingly hot and I feared something was melting or burning. I am not worried about what Temp battery apps or the inbuilt Testing reports. I figure the phone system will shut it self down or reduce load if thresholds are reached.
yeah that's right. But anyway I do not think a temp of 50 celsius is exactly healty for the battery. We do not all live in Alaska and it might get mighty hot in southwest texas or southern Italy... In addiction I think the warmth has something to do with the screen as pretty much EVERY TIME I take the phone off the car dock the screen calibration is all f'd up. I seldom experienced that before but now it is 95% of the times I take it off the car dock. Sometimes even when plugged into the dock.
I love the phone and the dock, and this is maybe the only one glitch I found so far, but is really very annoying when it happens.
If anybody could help I would really appreciate that.
Also, any answer like "put it in front of the AC outlet" to me is pointless. It should not get that hot. period. and owning a Camaro it is not that easy to figure out a good spot to glue the disc on, surely not near an A/C vent...
SPAS79 said:
Does anyone experience extreme heat while plugged in? I know this has been discussed elsewhere bute I like the idea of a dedicated thread. Mine gets as hot as 50°c or 122°F. That's blistering hot to me. Does anyone knows if google plans a fix? I'd be happy not to have to worry about my phone frying in the cradle.
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I don't have the official Nexus One car dock but I have a car dock. Mine is pretty hot after I take it out. GPS on, dimness auto on, screen timeout off, audio to stereo, and charging.
I would say it's not the docks problem but rather its the heavy use of the phone. I've read this is normal on the nexus one since it's got a 1ghz processor. Heavy use = heat.
I've got heat issues in Phoenix but I'm confident it will be fine this summer.
Ironically, i DO live in Alaska, and noted it was a bit warm charging, playing music, and using GPS navigation.
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I've had my thunderbolt for awhile now and ive been noticing how hot it gets when streaming movies I downloaded a battery temp widget and at ruined it gets above 107 wstreaming movies or downloading, I do live in Atlanta and it is on the high 90,s but I didn't seem to b noticing this on my incredible. I'm rooted and have been running diffrent time running gingeritis v1.0 now
If you're that worried, quit overclocking. Also, not all the heat is from the cpu; some is given off by the internals related to the antenna, but shouldn't be a problem unless it's used excessively over a long period of time. I've had it overheat and reset from doing a large download over LTE for a few hours.
Not really concerned more curious to wether everyone else is seeing fast heat up to
It's almost 100 degrees out, you are streaming movies and OC'd, and you are wondering if the phone getting hot in conditions like this is abnormal
shaggy5991 said:
I've had my thunderbolt for awhile now and ive been noticing how hot it gets when streaming movies I downloaded a battery temp widget and at ruined it gets above 107 wstreaming movies or downloading, I do live in Atlanta and it is on the high 90,s but I didn't seem to b noticing this on my incredible. I'm rooted and have been running diffrent time running gingeritis v1.0 now
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You have to remember that most of that heat is generated because of the reactions within the battery to supply power to the phone. So the more draw you put on the battery the hotter it's going to get. Lithium batteries are notorious for running high temps when being charged/discharged. It's part of the price you pay to have more capacity is a smaller space.
I flown RC heli's for years, so I'm very familiar with how lithium batteries react. They pack alot of power in minimum space, but they can be dangerous is certain situations (that's why cars like the Prius still do not use them in production because of the fire risk).
Just a bit of info to think about.
There's a good thread on xda that's has documented on several test that LTE is the cause of the overheating. The test was done on stock ruu with no OC. Of course being Oc'd doesn't help your case, but I've noticed LTE in weak areas can raise battery temperature up to 107 degrees Fahrenheit without streaming video or having any rogue applications running. I've also reduced cpu speed to 744 mhz with no luck. Hopefully new RUU releases will address this problem.
I'll post the thread when I get a chance.
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4G LTE Rapid Power Burn Issue
raider3bravo said:
There's a good thread on xda that's has documented on several test that LTE is the cause of the overheating. The test was done on stock ruu with no OC.
I'll post the thread when I get a chance.
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I don't believe that is the cause at all, as I have 4G, and use it, where I live all day, and OC to 1.4, I have never had overheating problems at all. He was outside in almost 100 degree weather, streaming movies, there isn't a fan cooling the phone, that temperature is normal.
I'm outside during the week in 80-85 degree weather, streaming music on a sunny day and my phone gets hotter than normal, because it is working harder than normal.
The OP is downloading or streaming movies in hot weather when it gets hot. 2 data & processor intensive tasks, you can't expect it to stay cool at normal temperature in conditions like that.
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I don't believe that is the cause at all, as I have 4G, and use it, where I live all day, and OC to 1.4, I have never had overheating problems at all. He was outside in almost 100 degree weather, streaming movies, there isn't a fan cooling the phone, that temperature is normal.
I'm outside during the week in 80-85 degree weather, streaming music on a sunny day and my phone gets hotter than normal, because it is working harder than normal.
The OP is downloading or streaming movies in hot weather when it gets hot. 2 data & processor intensive tasks, you can't expect it to stay cool at normal temperature in conditions like that.
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That's certainly another factor I didn't consider.
I understand all that I've played with all the processor speeds and observed how of reacts in difrent situations compared to the incredible and even on 3g under all same conditions it heats up at a way faster rate, not saying the reason its overheating isn't my fault nor do I ever let it get past a safe level just wondering
OP, trust me your phone is not "Overheating" at 107. If it gets to 125/130+ then you have a problem but these phones were built to withstand the temps you are seeing.
Basically, don't worry about it.
The biggest thing i have noticed is that when i recharge with the power cord at home, it don't get hot. But when i recharge with a cig adaptor, it runs pretty hot. But on the flipside of that, If i use my wifes cig charger that came with her LG ally, it don't overheat. These phones are drama queens about charging
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The biggest thing i have noticed is that when i recharge with the power cord at home, it don't get hot. But when i recharge with a cig adaptor, it runs pretty hot. But on the flipside of that, If i use my wifes cig charger that came with her LG ally, it don't overheat. These phones are drama queens about charging
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That may be because of the quality of the chargers you are using. Electrical power is kind of like water. The bigger the pipes the better the flow. If you have a good pipeline, less heat because the battery doesn't have to work so hard pulling the electricity in.
A wall charger (spec'd for your phone) is probably the best choice, you wife's cig charger may just be a bit better quality with thicker gauge wiring.
I know this is a pretty simplified explanation, but hopefully it makes sense.
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That may be because of the quality of the chargers you are using. Electrical power is kind of like water. The bigger the pipes the better the flow. If you have a good pipeline, less heat because the battery doesn't have to work so hard pulling the electricity in.
A wall charger (spec'd for your phone) is probably the best choice, you wife's cig charger may just be a bit better quality with thicker gauge wiring.
I know this is a pretty simplified explanation, but hopefully it makes sense.
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Also having direct sunlight on your phone probably makes a difference.
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miketoasty said:
OP, trust me your phone is not "Overheating" at 107. If it gets to 125/130+ then you have a problem but these phones were built to withstand the temps you are seeing.
Basically, don't worry about it.
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i've gotten close to 130 on several Thunderbolts. and it's not even that hot in SoCal yet. i've seen over 1200ma before a few times. this was on non-rooted Thunderbolts.
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That may be because of the quality of the chargers you are using. Electrical power is kind of like water. The bigger the pipes the better the flow. If you have a good pipeline, less heat because the battery doesn't have to work so hard pulling the electricity in.
A wall charger (spec'd for your phone) is probably the best choice, you wife's cig charger may just be a bit better quality with thicker gauge wiring.
I know this is a pretty simplified explanation, but hopefully it makes sense.
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it's also possible that the Ally requires less power. The Thunderbolt is spec'd for charging at 5V/1A. If the Ally is 5V/800ma, then it would not get as hot when charging the Ally. Out of curiosity, what does the charger spec as voltage/amperage?
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OP, trust me your phone is not "Overheating" at 107. If it gets to 125/130+ then you have a problem but these phones were built to withstand the temps you are seeing.
Basically, don't worry about it.
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My TBOLT gets pretty warm, but I've never had any real problems with it. I did however when I was on the Incredible. I agree, I wouldn't worry about it.
Woah is me. My g2x gets hot. So does my mt4g my g2 and anyone else's phone I use. I started to wonder why.....its the way I'm holding it. Yes, simply that. Oh lets not forget after a nice full wipe and everything is installing over again that taxes the processor causing it to get hotter than normal. Oh it gets hot sitting in my pocket doing nothing when it's really hot outside.
Anyone here ever pay attention to when it gets hot and actually wonder why it does?
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Morfic has a good post somewhere about this. If I recall he made mention that the Tegra 2 can bake a cake under certain conditions (I believe primarily when OC). What kernel are you using?
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What I'm saying is its general body heat. Our bodies are average of 98.6 degrees. So holding it.in your hand alone will warm up the device.
Think of holding a glass of milk firmly in your hand for a while and see how long it stays cold compared to letting it sit on the table.
In some cases I think it is the phone but I would say 90% or more its the user not the device being a defect.
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What I'm saying is its general body heat. Our bodies are average of 98.6 degrees. So holding it.in your hand alone will warm up the device.
Think of holding a glass of milk firmly in your hand for a while and see how long it stays cold compared to letting it sit on the table.
In some cases I think it is the phone but I would say 90% or more its the user not the device being a defect.
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Lol, like most things in life, user error
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Lol, like most things in life, user error
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Yea. I dunno every device I had gets hot under the collar with heavy usage. I think people are nitpicking something. Go to a t-mobile store and abusive every device there and hold it in the same spot the same way and run the same sstuff. .. ill bet in most cases you will have the same results.
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My phone only gets hot on the charger, but often says please remove power cord cause "yo ****'s too hot"
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This post is completely false. Body heat? Come on.....If this logic were true then why have I picked the phone up off my cocktail table hours after not being used only to feel the phone much hotter than the surface it's sitting on in a air conditioned house? These processors run MUCH hotter than a body temp could ever reach and they were designed to withstand these temperatures. This is what CPU's do when you tax them, they get hot. If you still want to believe this bogus logic then I propose you open a HD game, set it on your cocktail table and only touch the phone with on of your fingers. Play it for about 15 minutes, pick your phone up and tell me if it's hot.
Last time I checked, my laptops CPU/GPU isn't touching anything but still gets hot.
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This post is completely false. Body heat? Come on.....If this logic were true then why have I picked the phone up off my cocktail table hours after not being used only to feel the phone much hotter than the surface it's sitting on in a air conditioned house? These processors run MUCH hotter than a body temp could ever reach and they were designed to withstand these temperatures. This is what CPU's do when you tax them, they get hot. If you still want to believe this bogus logic then I propose you open a HD game, set it on your cocktail table and only touch the phone with on of your fingers. Play it for about 15 minutes, pick your phone up and tell me if it's hot.
Last time I checked, my laptops CPU/GPU isn't touching anything but still gets hot.
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Now I agree with this post 100%
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If this logic were true then why have I picked the phone up off my cocktail table hours after not being used only to feel the phone much hotter than the surface it's sitting on in a air conditioned house?
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I wish I had air conditioning Stoopid summer.
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I wish I had air conditioning Stoopid summer.
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Do you live in a 3rd world country or something?
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Do you live in a 3rd world country or something?
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Never heard of a swamp cooler?
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Never heard of a swamp cooler?
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Nope
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msage said:
Never heard of a swamp cooler?
Lol I haven't either bro but u can't have a 500 dollar phone and not have AC its called priorities
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Ok hold your phone by finger tips in the corners and tax the processor and then let it cool down and holdbit firmly from behind and do the same thing and see how much faster it gets hot.
This phone sitting on a table does not get hot at all. In my pocket when its 100 degrees outside does get hot......while doing nothing more than standby.
Its not BS. Yea these processors get hot on their own but I'm making a point that if the back of the phone has body heat covering it, it will get hot or at the least warmer than normal just because of that.
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I live in an area where it is as hot (soon to be much hotter) as body temperature and my phone does not get noticeably hot unless I am really taxing it. But as far as exceeding design limits of CPUs I would have to be significantly overclocking it and taxing it at the same time.
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Ok hold your phone by finger tips in the corners and tax the processor and then let it cool down and holdbit firmly from behind and do the same thing and see how much faster it gets hot.
This phone sitting on a table does not get hot at all. In my pocket when its 100 degrees outside does get hot......while doing nothing more than standby.
Its not BS. Yea these processors get hot on their own but I'm making a point that if the back of the phone has body heat covering it, it will get hot or at the least warmer than normal just because of that.
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This is your opinion unless you have the data to prove it. I have had phones get hot without touching them so I'm not believing this and quite frankly not a lot of people are. I asked you a question earlier. Why does my laptop and desktop CPU'S get hot when I never come in contact with them?
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In my opinion the thing that makes the phone warm up mostly is the cell radio. Download a 30mb file ( not on wifi) , turn off the screen, and watch how warm it gets. Also watch the large battery hit.
And every smart phone I know will get hot on a demanding game..
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My phone only gets hot near the camera when I bootloop.
It barely gets warm when playing a 3D game like Galaxy on Fire 2 or RPTide (or whatever).
I download CM roms (98mb) over cellular EVERY day and the phone feels cool to the touch.
Stock Clock/Stock CM7 #56 (currently)/Stock Kernel
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This is your opinion unless you have the data to prove it. I have had phones get hot without touching them so I'm not believing this and quite frankly not a lot of people are. I asked you a question earlier. Why does my laptop and desktop CPU'S get hot when I never come in contact with them?
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you are comparing a computer to a phone.
i understand your point, anything being run hard will get hot.
im just saying tho, my battery temp has reached 100 degrees just being outside and not used. its reached 100 when i hold it in my hand covering the back a lot even doing simple tasks. when i hold it without the back totally covered from my hand, it does not get as hot when taxing it more. when my speck case is on it does not get as hot if im holding it fully in the back.
ok guys i really need your help/opinions. my mytouch4gslide has recently been overheating while just casualy using it (facebook,twiitter,minor games,etc). and 2 days ago it started having horrible battery life it goes down 1 or 2 percent every minute or two. and also ive been trying alot of diffrent roms and im still trying each one out again but the problem is still there.before i was with tmobile i had an optimus v for virginmobile and the battery lasted much longer and it wouldnt overheat like this. im really tempted to send this to htc and get it fixed?replaced but i really cant wait two weeks without a phone. so guys tell me if this has ever happened to you or what i should do, i wish i still have the tmobile asurion insurence but i thought it was useless and canceled it last month, what shoudl i do?
o and i bought this piece of crap from tmobile for 500 dollers no sh!t and im still paying for it so i would really like it for it to get fixed
Yea, that's how much I paid for my first one too - well, still paying for...
Did you get insurance with your plan? Not sure if it covers the battery - but it did come with it, so I don't see why not.
Maybe take it in-store and see if you can get a manager or someone who could swap your battery out? Not sure if it works like that.
I'd be leaning towards the battery being shot, or on it's way there.
If it's overheating a lot, then it's just damaging the battery further - but it's also a sign of damage to the battery itself. Some of the cells are burnt out or malfunctioning and preventing/blocking/impeding or somehow just jamming up the electricity transfer in and out of the battery.
If you do an insurance claim, (if you got it with your plan) they ship you a new phone and when it comes in, you send your old one back. Think you have like 7 days to decide if you want the new one or keep the old one.
That would at least give you two batteries to test back and forth and see if it really is a battery problem (but that's the most likely answer)
You might consider getting an aftermarket battery?
On my second phone I swap out between the two HTC batteries I have, and in my plan phone I have the Anker battery I got. The Anker never gets as hot as the stock battery (either one) for the same workload, and I can push the device with the Anker to do much, much more then the one with the stock battery.
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I did do an HTC warranty repair on my second device, and I had to ship it back, they fixed, and sent it back to me. Didn't take that long, less then 13 days (probably by a few days) I could look up my records and find out exactly how many days I didn't have it including my shipping to them - but once they had it, it was speedy service.
The HTC people were an absolute pleasure to deal with on the phone, extremely helpful and taking the time to patiently answer all of my questions or look up accurate answers if need be (and they had to a few times, but you could imagine the grilling of questions I gave an HTC rep since I was on the line with them already)
Definitely seperated themselves from the vast majority of companies i've dealt with for customer service issues (beyond phones into other stuff too)
So past making some awesome tech the people behind it have been fantastic in my experience.
(even if they do make a ****ty battery they should be ashamed of - phone company, not a battery company, but the quality of the battery is way out of spec for the device it's in )
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Sorry to hear about your troubles, but I have a feeling that people are going to start following you who have been using the stock battery for as long as you have.
It generates too much heat, is too inefficient, and that makes it break down faster and die quicker. The more it dies, the less efficient it gets, and the quicker it reaches the end of it's service life.
If I were in your shoes, i'd call the battery shot and start worrying about what that amount of heat is doing to the device itself, specifically its Snapdragon processor. Heat is enemy numbers 1, 2 and 3 for the processor, especially one pushing the limits of it's design like the Snapdragon does.
If you are running an OC kernel, i'd stop that immediately. Hopefully you aren't or haven't been.
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I'd say go to a T-Mo store and start there, do an HTC direct warranty replace as a last resort and consider an aftermarket battery.
The Mugen batteries are unquestionably higher quality then the Anker batteries, but much pricier too.
The Anker battery is far and away better then the garbage stock battery - so even that would be a step up and it's what I run and like using.
(when I can afford to i'm gonna step up to the Mugen battery and gift the Anker to my second phone)
If I were you i'd overnight an Anker battery and stop in a T-Mo store tomorrow to see what your options were and how they were going to make it right for you.
Worst case is an HTC warranty, it's still in the warranty period, the phone hasn't been out for a year yet. I know that's the least desirable option, but if you do have to go that route make sure to mention how the heat has probably damaged the phone itself and they should have a tech or two go over the whole thing with a fine tooth comb. That heat against the processor has really shortened the lifespan of your device.
I say this because sometimes I put down my second phone and turn it off to save it from the heat of a functioning stock battery - a broken one would be a lot more of a concern.
Wish I could say something more positive, but while you are in warranty and have options is not the time to ignore issues that could bite you later.
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Especially since this is clearly not your fault - you are using the battery provided to you with the device itself, and that is now malfunctioning. You didn't do anything to cause this, it's either dumb luck with an even worse battery then normal that HTC themselves provided you, or you are the first of more who are hitting the end of service life on the battery the device came with.
It sucks that the worse it gets, the more quickly the problem gets worse. It's a vicious cycle that there is no way out of, because just using the battery breaks it more.
Even if you have to be without a phone for a week because you have to ship it back to HTC (worst case scenario from your point of view, since you have no device in the meantime) they'll make it right for you. This device is too awesome, and costs too much money, to settle for something that's defective - especially since it's not something you did, just the way it came.
Let's just hope for everyone's sake you got a particularly bad battery and this doesn't turn into an epidemic. Because the overheating of the battery basically breaks it more and more quickly, this is about the right amount of time for them to start crapping out if you got it within the first month of launch.
(based on the ludicrous - yet identical - amount of heat i've been experiencing from two stock batteries is where i'm framing this fear from)
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Sorry, noticed you said you cancelled insurance, i'm pretty tired, but i'll leave what I said in case it helps someone - I wouldn't hesitate to call up HTC and file a manufacturers warranty claim, it should be covered since it's their branded battery that failed. I definitely give them a very high rating for customer service from my experience - I have nothing but good things to say about them to anyone who will listen.
The anker battery definitely will cool down your device. It seems like our stock battery takes a sh*t after about 3 months... Once I got the anker battery I loved the phone so much more, I recommended it to all my friends with sensations/mt4gs phones.
My one friend ended up getting himself 3 ankers, so he always keeps one on the wall charger, one in the phone, and one fully charged in his pocket. He doesn't even plug the phone into the wall anymore. If you do something like him, your phone will also avoid the heat involved with charging via usb
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My one friend ended up getting himself 3 ankers, so he always keeps one on the wall charger, one in the phone, and one fully charged in his pocket. He doesn't even plug the phone into the wall anymore. If you do something like him, your phone will also avoid the heat involved with charging via usb
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Well, you trade wear and tear of one part for wear and tear on another. The wear and tear on the USB jack is much, much worse then the wear and tear on the battery contacts.
The USB jack will wear out long before the battery contacts wear down.
The other part of it is every time you open the back of the device you expose the internals to dust and environmental contaminants.
I'd say as long as it's clean, not dusty or anything when you make the switch, that's the better way to go - as long as they are the same battery (which is what you said your friend had ... all good there)
The big thing would be to not make the switch outside. Try to do it indoors, in still air.
The most dust-free room of any house is most likely the bathroom. Limited to no carpeting and usually much less air space for things to be floating around in, close the window and give it ten minutes to settle first and that's probably the best location to do it. Especially if it's real tile, that's the absolute least opportunity for all the dust and fine particulates on the floor in the rest of the house to be present.
So your friends mode of operation (if when changing the battery conscious of dust and fine particle contamination) is probably the best method to stay charged and put the least wear on the device - except maybe an induction charging backplate.
The only problem with the induction charger is finding a case you can work on it with. I don't have one, but if it's the same size as the standard phone dimensions, then you could use the trident case and not scratch the device up taking it off an on (the trident case is mostly soft plastic and rubber, not hard and sharp plastic)
The downfall to the induction charger is you need a charge plate every where you go, so once you factor that liability in, what your friend is doing with 3 Ankers is probably the best method to keep the phone charged while doing as little damage to it through normal wear and tear possible.
Score a point for creativity and efficiency. I might change my mind about the Mugen and just get a few more Ankers to duplicate the method, after thinking about it. If there's a better way, why do anything else? That seems like it'd be worth buying the extra batteries for, i'll just pay attention and snipe some on sale.
Thanks for sharing, that's a happy tidbit of info and i'm definitely going to work towards implementing it. I want this device to last me as long as I can make it, and any way of taking better care of it or doing something like the battery swap method that just makes way more sense is always welcome to hear about.
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I should've gone to sleep already since I have to get moving in just a few short hours - but after typing out my previous reply I figured i'd swap my stock battery since you shouldn't let them sit without being used for a long period of time.
(I wish I could charge the stock batteries out of the device, I could copy a shorter version of that method with my two stock batteries - oh well.)
Anyways, when I did, I noticed something. Each came with one of my devices, and they are both the same battery, but they are backwards. It looks like it was deliberate, too, because all the markings are correct for + / - and whatnot.
Don't know what to make of it, so I figured i'd share just to get the info out there in case it's of use to anyone - (for what, I have no idea) - but they both suck equally, so there's no benefit of less heat for one or the other, and they both last about the same amount of time near as I can tell without actually measuring.
Doesn't seem like one lasts longer then the other, and i'm pretty sensitive to that kind of stuff. If people are curious i'll measure them a couple of times each and see for sure, if not I won't waste my time when there's other work to do.
Anyways, I snapped some pictures of it to illustrate what I mean, since describing it would end up being confusing for some and i'm half delerious as it is.
They are both the same:
- brand = (HTC)
- model = (BG58100)
- Rating = (3.7VDC)
- Capacity = (1520 mAh)
- Watt Hours = (5.62Whr)
Different serial numbers, and Different part numbers.
The one that shows the writing/bar code side up when installed in the device is:
- part number 35H00150-00m
The one that shows the blank side up when installed in the device is:
- part number 35H00153-00m
Does anyone out there have any other part numbers for the stock batteries? I wonder how many versions there are and if there are any differences between them.
Two of my friends got this device after seeing all the cool stuff I could do with it and being less then impressed with the devices the rest of our/their friends had - they needed a hardware keyboard too so obviously this was the answer.
I will check their stock batteries and see what they are, if it's anything different i'll post that too - might take a few days or so to get ahold of them and find out.
I should have noticed this a long time ago. Anyways, here's the pics to illustrate the outward differences:
no worrys i just charged my phone all night and its workin good again, and i do have anker. im on your bulletproof rom and ive been off the charger for an hour and ive been texting and playing games and its still at 100 percent
Blue if ur gonna copy my friend, keep the spare in a ziplock bag, moisture is one of the reasons people say u shouldn't leave them out and unused for long periods of time
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wiswis said:
no worrys i just charged my phone all night and its workin good again, and i do have anker. im on your bulletproof rom and ive been off the charger for an hour and ive been texting and playing games and its still at 100 percent
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Awesome to hear you're in good shape again.
Was the problem you were having with the stock battery or the anker?
leoilios said:
Blue if ur gonna copy my friend, keep the spare in a ziplock bag, moisture is one of the reasons people say u shouldn't leave them out and unused for long periods of time
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I have some nylon camera cases i've been using to carry around the doubleshots, and they have pockets that I slip things like memory cards, cables and the stock batteries in (whichever one isn't being used).
Appreciate the heads up, but I got the cases to keep the doubleshot behind a zipper to keep dust out, and when the accessories are in the zipper pockets they are protected enough. There isn't a lot of fog where I live, only rarely and otherwise the ambient moisture is not very high so it's not a big deal.
If I didn't have the cases, though, i'd definitely be using something like that. There were a couple of times I carried the doubleshot itself around in a ziplock bag back in august, if it was raining or going to rain that's how it left my house in my pocket. That's what prompted me to get the nylon cases - and though they aren't waterproof or anything, it's enough to not have to worry about it.
If i'm going to be in the rain then that's what I do - i'll have to come up with something better before it hits the rainy season around here - this time of year it doesn't rain often.
I'm having a similar problem, though not as extreme.
My phone's battery doesn't actually heat up but the area around the simcard. I'm running Pyroice with the extreme UV kernel and underclocked the CPU to 810mhz Max with setcpu 2.1.1a but it still warms up around the simcard area. I also never get anything better than 12hrs battery life.
Should I be worried?
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I'm having a similar problem, though not as extreme.
My phone's battery doesn't actually heat up but the area around the simcard. I'm running Pyroice with the extreme UV kernel and underclocked the CPU to 810mhz Max with setcpu 2.1.1a but it still warms up around the simcard area. I also never get anything better than 12hrs battery life.
Should I be worried?
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I have had this same problem from day one. Even with the anker battery, and on every rom I have tried. I sometimes use flat icepacks to cool it down when it gets too hot. I haven't found anything fix.
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I use my Mugen as my regular battery and my two Ankers as spares. I only have the OEM battery in case I need to send it to T-Mobile.
So I got the model numbers from both stock batteries that my friends have for their phones. Both are the same.
- part number 35H00153-00m
...and that matches one of the ones I have from above.
Anyone else have any other model numbers on their stock batteries that are different?
It would be nice to know what's out there and if a particular model seems to do better then another.
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I run both stock batteries in one phone, and the anker in the other. Very rarely does the anker device get hot enough that I take notice and pay attention to it, but it does happen.
The one swapping out stock batteries back and forth can trigger a battery switch if it has been two days and I haven't swapped, or it gets too hot.
If it gets too hot I turn it off, let it cool down and then turn it on with the other battery. I try to keep the one not in use as full as viable, but never less then about halfway for more then a short while.
Enough people have shown a serious reduction in heat of the device by using an aftermarket battery that we've concluded pretty solidly that the stock battery is responsible for a large portion of the excessive heat.
Heat is the number one enemy of these kinds of batteries and microprocessors. If it starts to get hot enough to be uncomfortable in your hands, then you should start thinking about letting it cool down before running it so hard.
It happens more frequently then i'd like with the device running stock batteries, but I always make the decision that whatever i'm doing isn't worth aging the device and reducing it's service life just because I couldn't stop using it for a few minutes to let it cool off. The money I spent on it means more the longer it's in service, abusing it unnecessarily is wasteful to me.
I'm pretty particular about things like that, just my way. Your mileage may vary.
Blue: my stock battery has the same product number
i can't really say i've noticed it getting hot enough to take notice of it, but then again, i mainly use the Anker, since i only need to charge it once a day.
i was wondering if there's a chance that the heat issue is something HTC addressed in the last OTA update? definitely hard to say, but possible i suppose. perhaps i can try using the stock battery on the newest stock ROM and see if it heats up.
I doubt it's a matter of software or we wouldn't see much if any change when swapping to a different battery like the mugen or anker.
Any theory is valid until disproven though, and you never know unless you try so let us know how it turns out.
I have through time noticed my phone being quite hot to the touch while it's being charged. Be it while in it's (condom) case or lying inadvertently underdeath my pillow while I sleep. My battery life was never great, but was sufficient, but I'm afraid now that it's at about %50-60 of what it once was.
I haven't treated this phone any differentyl than I have the other phones I've previously owned, but the durability of this battery is suspect! I'd love to get a battery replacement for it, but I don't think that's an option at this point.
Anyone else notice this? I've read another post where someone else noticed similar results with their battery life while charging their phone and playing games.
First of all, all smartphones gets hot while playing games and charging at the same time.
And charging the phone do generate small amount of heat, so do not put it underneath your pillow while charging. (shouldn't be hot to touch though)
If you are not doing anything mention above and the battery is still getting dangerously hot while charging, contact Google customer service (if its from play store) or your carrier.
*Do not use third party charger if possible.
comscier said:
First of all, all smartphones gets hot while playing games and charging at the same time.
And charging the phone do generate small amount of heat, so do not put it underneath your pillow while charging. (shouldn't be hot to touch though)
If you are not doing anything mention above and the battery is still getting dangerously hot while charging, contact Google customer service (if its from play store) or your carrier.
*Do not use third party charger if possible.
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Uh, gee. Thanks for the in-depth analysis!
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edved said:
Uh, gee. Thanks for the in-depth analysis!
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If anyone is going to help you now, i'd be amazed. Ever heard the phrase "don't bite the hand that feeds you"?
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Something all Android phone lacks is the ability to protect itself from overheating via charging or whatever like how apple did here.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2101
my dad fried his N5 with the Tylt charger good thing he had Jump
edved said:
I have through time noticed my phone being quite hot to the touch while it's being charged. Be it while in it's (condom) case or lying inadvertently underdeath my pillow while I sleep. My battery life was never great, but was sufficient, but I'm afraid now that it's at about %50-60 of what it once was.
I haven't treated this phone any differentyl than I have the other phones I've previously owned, but the durability of this battery is suspect! I'd love to get a battery replacement for it, but I don't think that's an option at this point.
Anyone else notice this? I've read another post where someone else noticed similar results with their battery life while charging their phone and playing games.
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Did you ever think about that this phone has a quad core processor that throttles at 70 degrees Celsius. That's 158F. Where's the heat going to go? Surely the heat will go somewhere but it will heat up the plastic somewhat.
FYI: shouldn't sleep with your phone under your pillow.
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