Dropping data on call. - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know you will drop 3g data on a call. That I completely understand. But this is the first device I've used that is dropping my lte data during a call. I'm not sure if this is a rom issue or a modem issue.
I am on sprint, and not sure if this is an isolated issue for sprint customers or across the board.
Another issue I would like to see resolved is patching native tethering. I'm currently stuck using WiFi tether app in ad-hoc mode. Which unfortunately my nexus 7 can't attach to.
In case you're wondering I'm running slim kat currently. I've tried cm and stock before rooting and all formats have dropped LTE on call.

Probably because there is no voice over LTE. Same happens on Rogers too.
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Elisha said:
Probably because there is no voice over LTE. Same happens on Rogers too.
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But I've always had voice over LTE on Sprint. Just not with this phone. Galaxy nexus, and HTC one never had that issue.
If it's something I have to live with, that's fine. I just would like to see this feature implemented if possible.

maybe its the way the radio is designed for this phone?
thats my only guess.

joebags said:
But I've always had voice over LTE on Sprint. Just not with this phone. Galaxy nexus, and HTC one never had that issue.
If it's something I have to live with, that's fine. I just would like to see this feature implemented if possible.
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Nope, not going to happen. It requires a very specific setup with the radios that results in poor battery life. Sprint does not run with voice over LTE, it's simply running calls as normal and keeping LTE active at the same time.
In addition, large portions of Sprint's network outright do not support this functionality anyway.

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Disable LTE without custom ROM?

I have the ATT HOX and want to disable LTE due to the known issues with missed calls etc. Would it be possible to disable it through root access WITHOUT installing a custom ROM?
I'm not sure what AT&T do to their phones but can you not change it via Settings > Mobile Network > Network mode.
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thejosh86 said:
I'm not sure what AT&T do to their phones but can you not change it via Settings > Mobile Network > Network mode.
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That's how it's done on my Rogers device.. should be the same on all.
this_is_nick6 said:
That's how it's done on my Rogers device.. should be the same on all.
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Same on Telstra
Phone: HTC One XL
ROM: AOKP 4.2.1 MR1 preview w/ alloy blue theme
Launcher: Apex w/glaskart icons
Att one x doesn't have that function. Try to do it in service menu trying typing in *#*#4636#*#*
Go to phone info and scroll down. It works for me on clean Rom but not sure about stock rom
a670 said:
I have the ATT HOX and want to disable LTE due to the known issues with missed calls etc. Would it be possible to disable it through root access WITHOUT installing a custom ROM?
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What known missed calls issue? What would LTE have to do with missed calls? LTE on AT&T is data only. It doesn't do anything with calls. You can dial *#*#4636#*#* and try to set it to gsm only or something.
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Believe me I have tried. It's not possible. But ik you said you didn't want to, but you really should look into custom ROMs. There's some that are basically stock with just better battery
Except for ATT. Its a well documented fact that they have it disabled. Any changes you make revert back to default.
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That's how it's done on my Rogers device.. should be the same on all.
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Its a fairly well known issue with ATT and LTE phones.
As far as I can tell since LTE IS data only it has a hard time receiving calls when its connected to the LTE network. I think it has something to do with only having 1 antenna and it cant communicate on voice and data at the same time. Or, maybe not.:silly: All I know is that when my phone is connected to LTE I will not receive phone calls. All calls will ring a few times and then go to voice mail. I eventually get voice message notifications when the phone switches out of LTE.
Any changes made in the field test mode do not stick. Thank you very much ATT.
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What known missed calls issue? What would LTE have to do with missed calls? LTE on AT&T is data only. It doesn't do anything with calls. You can dial *#*#4636#*#* and try to set it to gsm only or something.
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a670 said:
Its a fairly well known issue with ATT and LTE phones.
As far as I can tell since LTE IS data only it has a hard time receiving calls when its connected to the LTE network. I think it has something to do with only having 1 antenna and it cant communicate on voice and data at the same time. Or, maybe not.:silly: All I know is that when my phone is connected to LTE I will not receive phone calls. All calls will ring a few times and then go to voice mail. I eventually get voice message notifications when the phone switches out of LTE.
Any changes made in the field test mode do not stick.
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I've had 3 different LTE phones on AT&T and never had issues with missed calls and I'm constantly on a LTE connection. My phone kicks to hspa+ right before I receive a call and then it rings. Goes back to LTE about 30 seconds after I hang up. The only thing I can think of is that you are on LTE only in the field test mode thing. That will definitely give you call problems. What does it say that you are connected to when you go into the phone information menu?
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I've had 3 different LTE phones on AT&T and never had issues with missed calls and I'm constantly on a LTE connection. My phone kicks to hspa+ right before I receive a call and then it rings. Goes back to LTE about 30 seconds after I hang up. The only thing I can think of is that you are on LTE only in the field test mode thing. That will definitely give you call problems. What does it say that you are connected to when you go into the phone information menu?
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I've had a few LTE phones too but I can confirm that this is an issue with AT&T and the HOX. (At least in certain areas.) The phone is *supposed* to do what you said and switch off LTE when a call comes in but that doesn't always happen. I've noticed it the most at my office where I usually have 4 bars of "4G LTE" or one or two bars of "4G". I'll have a long period of time with no incoming calls or texts and then when I make a call (and the phone switches to "4G") I get the backlog of voicemails and text messages. Hard resets haven't helped and AT&T refuses to admit that it's a problem.
Heres a summary of what I have found:
1 Being in field test mode does not affect incoming calls.
2. When making outgoing phone calls with LTE or HSPA displayed in field test mode, the connection will switch to UMTS and then revert back to LTE or HSPA after hanging up. I dont know what that means, just throwing it out there.
3. On a few occasions during my testing I have noticed that I could not receive calls when HSPA is displayed in field test mode. I think that the phone had just switched from LTE, although I havent been able to 100% verify that.
4. My connection at my house varies between LTE, HSPA,EDGE.
5. EDGE is great. My phone makes and receives calls all day long when I have a EDGE connection.
6. Most of my testing has been at home where I have crappy reception to begin with. On a few occasions when I had my wife with me I had her call my phone(connected to LTE). Same as when at home, my pone never rings.
pside15;36112809]I've had 3 different LTE phones on AT&T and never had issues with missed calls and I'm constantly on a LTE connection. My phone kicks to hspa+ right before I receive a call and then it rings. Goes back to LTE about 30 seconds after I hang up. The only thing I can think of is that you are on LTE only in the field test mode thing. That will definitely give you call problems. What does it say that you are connected to when you go into the phone information menu?
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I've had a few LTE phones too but I can confirm that this is an issue with AT&T and the HOX. (At least in certain areas.) The phone is *supposed* to do what you said and switch off LTE when a call comes in but that doesn't always happen......".
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Exactly!
I have Samsung Galaxy S3 on AT&T and I have same issue when connected to LTE. I have been working with AT&T CSR for over a week and no resolution yet. I have talked them into switching my data plan from 300MB LTE to Unlimited Standard Phone data plan. (Unlimited standard phone data plan uses HSPA+ and not LTE, which would resolve the issue)
From what I have understood so far, its not the phone, its the AT&T LTE network.
Wouldnt people with the same phone have more answers for you?
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Who are you talking to
954wrecker said:
Wouldnt people with the same phone have more answers for you?
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AlwaysNoob said:
I have Samsung Galaxy S3 on AT&T and I have same issue when connected to LTE. I have been working with AT&T CSR for over a week and no resolution yet. I have talked them into switching my data plan from 300MB LTE to Unlimited Standard Phone data plan. (Unlimited standard phone data plan uses HSPA+ and not LTE, which would resolve the issue)
From what I have understood so far, its not the phone, its the AT&T LTE network.
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I didnt even know that kind of plan existed. Have you switched over yet? Does it work?:fingers-crossed:
a670 said:
I have the ATT HOX and want to disable LTE due to the known issues with missed calls etc. Would it be possible to disable it through root access WITHOUT installing a custom ROM?
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Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27732183&postcount=8
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Wouldnt people with the same phone have more answers for you?
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No, because this issue is not related to the phone but its related to AT&T LTE network. So everyone on AT&T LTE network has same issue and not only people with HTC one X.
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I didnt even know that kind of plan existed. Have you switched over yet? Does it work?:fingers-crossed:
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I was on phone with them last night. They have created a case number for me so their "technical team" can look into it. They promised me to get back to me before friday on this.
For changing the data plan, the CSR tried to change it but it didnt work yesterday. I blame it on the CSR because I know some people on XDA has done that before. I am gonna call them again and have a different CSR try it or me.
And plus, with this change, you get unlimited HSPA+ for just $10.
cr1960 said:
Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27732183&postcount=8
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Thanks for the link. Those settings actually worked for me. I had already tried a couple different APN configs but none of them seemed to stick.
So, now I have successfully disabled LTE.
Unfortunately, I'm still having intermittent missed calls with the phone connected to HSPA. Also, At work in certain areas, we have rock solid LTE reception and guess what...no missed calls. WTFrack?
At home the only time I can get regular calls is when the phone is connected to EDGE.
I seriously think that there must some relationship between 4G/LTE and signal strength. Does anyone know If EDGE and 4G/LTE use the same towers or same power outputs?

Nexus 5 dropping me off Network ??

So I got my nexus 5 on Friday and its perfect none of the mentioned defects was having some small issues with the notification light but that's all. However I noticed once a day since getting it I go to use my phone and it says emergency only / Rogers and I won't be able to make calls or receive calls. Anyone else experiencing this problem ?
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I'm on Bell and for some reason sometimes I'd have no signal out of no where then it'll jump back to full bars the next second... Really annoying unless this is a normal thing for the Nexus 5
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I'm on Rogers and I get this too. I usually fix it by going into network mode and change it to 3G and back to LTE immediately.
I still get incoming calls even though I can't dial out until I do the above change.
Its network problem not the nexus 5
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I have the similar problem i'm on rogers and if the signal gets weak it will show signal strength in the home screen, i can surf the internet(data), but will not send text messages or make calls, if I try to make a call it say "cellular network not available", if i turn air plane mode on then off it reconnects right away. this has never happened with my GE Galaxy S4
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I have the similar problem i'm on rogers and if the signal gets weak it will show signal strength in the home screen, i can surf the internet(data), but will not send text messages or make calls, if I try to make a call it say "cellular network not available", if i turn air plane mode on then off it reconnects right away. this has never happened with my GE Galaxy S4
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I have the exact same issue guys, I hope that it has nothing to do with our nexus 5's.
im getting this error too. darn! its not normal for a phone to be like that. never happened to my previous one.
there must be something wrong with the phone.
im on Fido.
but its only happening to canadian network? weird.
maybe they're torturing people who didnt buy from them? lol
It looks like I have a similar issue.
My connection sometimes gets lost. Some sort of hiccup when connected to mobile network.
No issues found on WIFI
I'm on a hspa network in Canada and wanted to report that I get worse reception with the N5 than I did with my Galaxy S2. I hope it is easy fixable with a new modem flash or other update.
Just wanted to contribute in case there is anyone working on this and wanted some more info.
I had to change my data plan because, according to T-Mobile (US) it was not compatible with the phone. I could get emails and SMS text messages but could not get Internet data services (kept being prompted to log onto the network and presented with the T-Mobile logon screen). Lost my unlimited data, which I was grandfathered into (but found out that they were throttling me at 5 GB which I don't usually hit). I knew they would eventually make me change my plan anyway and was able to get a new 4.5 GB plan at the same price. Since T-Mobile will be offering this phone very soon (tomorrow? they're taking pre-orders now), I guess a lot of long-time customers will be pushed off their unlimited data plan.
I have the same problem!! It's really annoying - mine gets dropped every 2-5 mins! Is there a way to fix it? Is it the N5 or Rogers network?
I have the same problem in Belgium:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/nexus/T5ey4dttBOA/v9OaGzPxESwJ
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scutie88 said:
I have the same problem!! It's really annoying - mine gets dropped every 2-5 mins! Is there a way to fix it? Is it the N5 or Rogers network?
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If you are constantly getting poor signal it might be the handset. If you have good signal, and can use data, but have "Emergency calls only" instead of a carrier name, it's probably a carrier issue.
I am on Fido and have randomly had the same problem. There's another thread somewhere, and most if not all people reporting the problem are Rogers/Fido customers.
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If you are constantly getting poor signal it might be the handset. If you have good signal, and can use data, but have "Emergency calls only" instead of a carrier name, it's probably a carrier issue.
I am on Fido and have randomly had the same problem. There's another thread somewhere, and most if not all people reporting the problem are Rogers/Fido customers.
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right here man
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525583
good point though... i don't see anyone from other canadian carriers complaining.
I also have this problem. I am on Fido in BC. Sometimes it will completely cut off the network signal from full bars to no service, similar to no sim card installed. It goes back to normal in about 5-6 seconds by itself but its definitely annoying.
SeraldoBabalu said:
right here man
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525583
good point though... i don't see anyone from other canadian carriers complaining.
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There were some bell users complaining about it in the other thread as well
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yeah its the phone and not the network, I switched my Rogers sim to my old phone and get full bars
I too am experiencing this and i'm in the UK. Just wanted to let you know that this may be more widespread thank we think.
Same issue with Tmobile
definitely the phone and not the carrier. I have a samsung galaxy s2 and n5 and it only happens on n5. Both on tmobile in portland oregon
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definitely the phone and not the carrier. I have a samsung galaxy s2 and n5 and it only happens on n5. Both on tmobile in portland oregon
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It is a software issue. I switched to a different ROM and kernel.
Cataclysm ROM and bricked Kernel.
So far, the connection is solid with this combo.

So those of you having Sprint LTE issues, how are you handling it?

Just curious as to what others are doing to deal with this issue (discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47276465 ).
I just bought my N5 two days ago and, while I have an iPhone 5s to fall back on, it would be really nice to be able to use the phone that I just bought. I was thinking of setting up a Tasker profile or something to switch radios based on some factor or another. Maybe let it drop to 1xRTT when on WIFI (when I'm home or at work) and use LTE elsewhere (I like to stream music in my car with my phone - 1xRTT is no good for that ). I really just need a way to see when someone has attempted to call, so that I can call back. Oh well. Someone will figure something out.
So how about you? What are you doing to cope?
Using a different phone?
"Screw everyone who calls me, I need DATA" ?
"Sprint can suck it, I'm switching to [other carrier] because this is the phone I want." ?
Something else?
Hate to double post, but I thought people might like to know.
For whatever reason today I felt compelled to switch back to my N5 from my iPhone 5s. To do so on Sprint (apparently) requires a factory reset.
After factory resetting and reactivating my Nexus 5, it magically works the way it should. LTE when I need data, but I still get phone calls and texts like normal.
Unless Sprint literally fixed the problem overnight, I have no idea what happened.
So if you're having the tri-band LTE issue feel free to give this a shot. I'm located in Central PA, for what it's worth.
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Hate to double post, but I thought people might like to know.
For whatever reason today I felt compelled to switch back to my N5 from my iPhone 5s. To do so on Sprint (apparently) requires a factory reset.
After factory resetting and reactivating my Nexus 5, it magically works the way it should. LTE when I need data, but I still get phone calls and texts like normal.
Unless Sprint literally fixed the problem overnight, I have no idea what happened.
So if you're having the tri-band LTE issue feel free to give this a shot. I'm located in Central PA, for what it's worth.
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it could have been an error in activation possibly causing the problem. a simple prl and profile update may have fixed the issue for you initially. if you didnt try that, that is.
No I'm in Hagerstown and lte just started working last night for me too. Now my problem is making phone calls. When I'm on Lte I can't make phone calls. I cant receive them just fine but wjen I try to call out it says call sent and immediately says call ended. Can u make calls on Lte?
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it could have been an error in activation possibly causing the problem. a simple prl and profile update may have fixed the issue for you initially. if you didnt try that, that is.
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I had tried the PRL and profile updates when I was trying to get it to work last night, as per some instructions that, I think, I found on Sprint's website.
musclehead84 said:
Can u make calls on Lte?
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I hadn't checked until you asked, but yes, it's letting me make calls like normal.
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Calls made when on LTE keep getting dropped

About 3 out of 5 times when I make a call when I am originally on LTE the phone call drops. I am on AT&T and when I make a call it switches from LTE to H+ then all of a sudden it just completely drops signal and thus the call and about 3 seconds later regains signal. Does anyone know what may be causing this issue or has had this issue? I am on 4.4.4 Stock with Root.
Well dropping calls isn't normal, but dropping from LTE to H+ is. VoLTE isn't really a thing yet. Calls don't work over LTE, so when you make a call it automatically drops to H+. That's normal behavior.
Did this just start happening out of the blue? Or always done that? Make sure you have the correct APN settings. If so try calling your provider and see if there's anything they can do for you.
RoyJ said:
Well dropping calls isn't normal, but dropping from LTE to H+ is. VoLTE isn't really a thing yet. Calls don't work over LTE, so when you make a call it automatically drops to H+. That's normal behavior.
Did this just start happening out of the blue? Or always done that? Make sure you have the correct APN settings. If so try calling your provider and see if there's anything they can do for you.
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Sorry forget to mention I knew that was normal for the drop to H+, but yes the signal drop is not. Well it started out of the blue. IS there a thread on here with what should be the correct APN settings? Also my old nexus 5 started to do this before I returned it under warranty for refurbished, then I had a moto G lte for a month worked fine, got a refurbished (due to warranty) and started again.
Here is a graph of my network coverage to show that the signal just drops.
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same problem
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About 3 out of 5 times when I make a call when I am originally on LTE the phone call drops. I am on AT&T and when I make a call it switches from LTE to H+ then all of a sudden it just completely drops signal and thus the call and about 3 seconds later regains signal. Does anyone know what may be causing this issue or has had this issue? I am on 4.4.4 Stock with Root.
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Mine doesn't seem to have any particular count pattern, it happens very randomly, usually when attempting to call someone and once they pickup on their end, my phone would hang up. This happens maybe 40-50%of the time, can't estimate a guess, but i can say that it happens enough to piss me off. I've checked my AT&T APN, which matches to what the carrier has it set, i even went and got my SIM replaced, rebooted in safe mode, gps works, so it's not a third party app causing this. Last resort is factory reset, although I'm almost positive that won't do anything. I'm currently also running android 4.4.4 stock aosp on a 32Gb N5. Device was purchased new in early may 2014, and came with android 4.4.2 preinstalled. The random call drops issue started in early October, a few months well into 4.4.4 update. All I've found online is that i it has something to do with a missing cellular radio, but to be honest, i don't want to mess with those as that may cause further problems. Called Google, and they act like they're clueless about this issue, all they can offer is a replacement, which is nice, but to be honest, it's probably going to happen again even with the new device. My coworker has the same issue with his 16gb N5 black model. If anyone with this device trying out android 5.0 lollipop preview can chime in on if this problem still persists, would be very awesome. I'm going to wait and see when the official android 5.0 comes out, if that fixes the dropped calls problem, then N5 can be used, if not then I'm getting it replaced and reselling it, may go with the moto x+1. So either a good portion of nexus 5 devices are factory defects or this really is a cellular radio problem. Really hope that lollipop will fix this issue.
The APN only handles packet data and not voice so that shouldn't be the issue.
I would try setting your phone to 3G only for a while and see if the drops still occur when you are on 3G prior to the call.
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Mine doesn't seem to have any particular count pattern, it happens very randomly, usually when attempting to call someone and once they pickup on their end, my phone would hang up. This happens maybe 40-50%of the time, can't estimate a guess, but i can say that it happens enough to piss me off. I've checked my AT&T APN, which matches to what the carrier has it set, i even went and got my SIM replaced, rebooted in safe mode, gps works, so it's not a third party app causing this. Last resort is factory reset, although I'm almost positive that won't do anything. I'm currently also running android 4.4.4 stock aosp on a 32Gb N5. Device was purchased new in early may 2014, and came with android 4.4.2 preinstalled. The random call drops issue started in early October, a few months well into 4.4.4 update. All I've found online is that i it has something to do with a missing cellular radio, but to be honest, i don't want to mess with those as that may cause further problems. Called Google, and they act like they're clueless about this issue, all they can offer is a replacement, which is nice, but to be honest, it's probably going to happen again even with the new device. My coworker has the same issue with his 16gb N5 black model. If anyone with this device trying out android 5.0 lollipop preview can chime in on if this problem still persists, would be very awesome. I'm going to wait and see when the official android 5.0 comes out, if that fixes the dropped calls problem, then N5 can be used, if not then I'm getting it replaced and reselling it, may go with the moto x+1. So either a good portion of nexus 5 devices are factory defects or this really is a cellular radio problem. Really hope that lollipop will fix this issue.
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Yea it wasn't an exact count but like 3 out of 5 says, enough that is annoys me. Tried all those as well and like I said I have a moto g lte that the sim worked in so it isn't the sim. This is my refurb unit, but the other one I have since November started to do the same thing in August as well on 4.4.4 never had an issue before that. Where did you find that if you don't mind me asking? I am comfy enough to mess with that stuff, so i'll give it a shot.
raptir said:
The APN only handles packet data and not voice so that shouldn't be the issue.
I would try setting your phone to 3G only for a while and see if the drops still occur when you are on 3G prior to the call.
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Already did and it doesn't but is an annoyance then since part of the price of the Nexus 5 is to have LTE and I am not getting the full product then which is not ideal.
cell radio fix
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Yea it wasn't an exact count but like 3 out of 5 says, enough that is annoys me. Tried all those as well and like I said I have a moto g lte that the sim worked in so it isn't the sim. This is my refurb unit, but the other one I have since November started to do the same thing in August as well on 4.4.4 never had an issue before that. Where did you find that if you don't mind me asking? I am comfy enough to mess with that stuff, so i'll give it a shot.
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I found it here (just take away the spaces after .com and after 02/): ianmarmour.com /2014/02/02/ google-nexus-5-fixing-modemcellular-issues-on-34g-networks
It's an older post from February, but seems to have the best details and fixes. If you simply search nexus 5 cellular radio issues or nexus 5 4.4.4 call drops, you should find a lot of these recalls from lots of N5 users. I'm tempted to try it, but don't really feel like sorting all my files in case i brick my device. I'm also not sure if ota update will work if i tinker with cell radios. Otherwise that's the page containing all the details you'd need including links and step by step guides. And hey if it works for you, let me know, maybe I'll try it out if it goes well for you.
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Already did and it doesn't but is an annoyance then since part of the price of the Nexus 5 is to have LTE and I am not getting the full product then which is not ideal.
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Exactly, i know that's totally possible, but i wouldn't want a smartphone that has no lte and/or hspa+ service at this point in time. This seems to happen wherever lte isn't as strong or available but hspa+ is. I think the modem responsible for switching between lte and hspa+ causes calls to drop. I took note of it a couple hours ago when i attempted to make a few phone calls resulting in instant call drops. Seems to do it while switching from lte to hspa+ network. I just wish Google would stop burying their heads from the outside world like an ostrich, and get in top of this. I mean this is their flagship device until N6 goes on sale. They should seriously fix this issue or at least stop denying that they've never heard of any complaints with their N4 and N5 customers. I love this device, but a simple fix like this not being addressed by Google is not very professional, especially because it's primary function is to call people. I'm really tempted to flash those radios, but really want to see if Google addresses this issue with an official ota lollipop update.
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Mine doesn't seem to have any particular count pattern, it happens very randomly, usually when attempting to call someone and once they pickup on their end, my phone would hang up. This happens maybe 40-50%of the time, can't estimate a guess, but i can say that it happens enough to piss me off. I've checked my AT&T APN, which matches to what the carrier has it set, i even went and got my SIM replaced, rebooted in safe mode, gps works, so it's not a third party app causing this. Last resort is factory reset, although I'm almost positive that won't do anything. I'm currently also running android 4.4.4 stock aosp on a 32Gb N5. Device was purchased new in early may 2014, and came with android 4.4.2 preinstalled. The random call drops issue started in early October, a few months well into 4.4.4 update. All I've found online is that i it has something to do with a missing cellular radio, but to be honest, i don't want to mess with those as that may cause further problems. Called Google, and they act like they're clueless about this issue, all they can offer is a replacement, which is nice, but to be honest, it's probably going to happen again even with the new device. My coworker has the same issue with his 16gb N5 black model. If anyone with this device trying out android 5.0 lollipop preview can chime in on if this problem still persists, would be very awesome. I'm going to wait and see when the official android 5.0 comes out, if that fixes the dropped calls problem, then N5 can be used, if not then I'm getting it replaced and reselling it, may go with the moto x+1. So either a good portion of nexus 5 devices are factory defects or this really is a cellular radio problem. Really hope that lollipop will fix this issue.
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Factor resetting it won't help, I've tried it already.
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Already did and it doesn't but is an annoyance then since part of the price of the Nexus 5 is to have LTE and I am not getting the full product then which is not ideal.
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part of the price? no. you dont see any phone more expensive because it can handle lte. your issue is with your network, and its signals around you. as we all know that the lte available can not handle voice calls. your isdue involvez lte handing off to H or 3G. thats where your network comes in.
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part of the price? no. you dont see any phone more expensive because it can handle lte. your issue is with your network, and its signals around you. as we all know that the lte available can not handle voice calls. your isdue involvez lte handing off to H or 3G. thats where your network comes in.
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Then why does my moto g work fine in the same locations? And LTE isn't more expensive on a phone? Please explain then how a LTE phone is more expensive then the 3g variant. Go compare the moto g to moto g LTE. Defeats your argument.
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Then why does my moto g work fine in the same locations? And LTE isn't more expensive on a phone? Please explain then how a LTE phone is more expensive then the 3g variant. Go compare the moto g to moto g LTE. Defeats your argument.
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lol, ok. the moto g variants are an exception to the majority. their already cheap price point being the reason.
those are two different devices, with differing hardware. its possible that moto can catch the signal from a little further away than the n5 can. the n5 was made less expensive because they used less expensive hardware in places. a shorter antenna being one of those places.
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anyways, if you bought it from google, you can request an exchange.
I wouldn't try any hardware mod, etc as the issue is with the software. This kind of thing happens to me also, regardless of where I am or what network I'm on (tested this with a friends AT&T sim also). In the settings menu my signal strength just says "0" (kid you not ZERO) and sticks there until I manually set the phone to 3g when I go to a place with weak LTE (like a basement).
DISCLAIMER: I am only assuming this as I don't know that much about this topic, but I think stock 4.4.4 doesn't understand that LTE can still be received at worse than -115dbm and causes this fault. It doesn't matter which radio you flash (using the newest dev preview radio on 4.4.4 still has this issue, but on 5.0 it works flawlessly), what network you are on, where you are with strong LTE coverage... If you go to the wrong LTE dead spot you have this issue. It's as if the radio is saying "I'm still good on LTE" and the phone says "-115dbm isn't good we need to switch" and the radio says "I'm still connected to LTE though" and the conflict causes the signal to go to 0. I don't think it's got anything to do with the handoff from LTE to 3G either (but it might, as I said I'm no expert). -115dbm seems to be the doom number for me on LTE with 4.4.4.
Try flashing the new dev preview if you want LTE. No network = 0 bug. Hell I can even get LTE in my basement (at worse than -115dbm, of course). I had to flash back to 4.4.4 though, too many games/apps not updated yet.
Long story short, this is fixed in Lollipop. Less than two weeks...
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lol, ok. the moto g variants are an exception to the majority. their already cheap price point being the reason.
those are two different devices, with differing hardware. its possible that moto can catch the signal from a little further away than the n5 can. the n5 was made less expensive because they used less expensive hardware in places. a shorter antenna being one of those places.
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anyways, if you bought it from google, you can request an exchange.
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It worked until august so your argument is void.
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I wouldn't try any hardware mod, etc as the issue is with the software. This kind of thing happens to me also, regardless of where I am or what network I'm on (tested this with a friends AT&T sim also). In the settings menu my signal strength just says "0" (kid you not ZERO) and sticks there until I manually set the phone to 3g when I go to a place with weak LTE (like a basement).
DISCLAIMER: I am only assuming this as I don't know that much about this topic, but I think stock 4.4.4 doesn't understand that LTE can still be received at worse than -115dbm and causes this fault. It doesn't matter which radio you flash (using the newest dev preview radio on 4.4.4 still has this issue, but on 5.0 it works flawlessly), what network you are on, where you are with strong LTE coverage... If you go to the wrong LTE dead spot you have this issue. It's as if the radio is saying "I'm still good on LTE" and the phone says "-115dbm isn't good we need to switch" and the radio says "I'm still connected to LTE though" and the conflict causes the signal to go to 0. I don't think it's got anything to do with the handoff from LTE to 3G either (but it might, as I said I'm no expert). -115dbm seems to be the doom number for me on LTE with 4.4.4.
Try flashing the new dev preview if you want LTE. No network = 0 bug. Hell I can even get LTE in my basement (at worse than -115dbm, of course). I had to flash back to 4.4.4 though, too many games/apps not updated yet.
Long story short, this is fixed in Lollipop. Less than two weeks...
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Def wasn't gonna try hardware and only software and great to hear! Did you try out lollipop yet?
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It worked until august so your argument is void.
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if it worked until august, then it supports my point of probably being an issue with your network, and not the phone itself.
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if it worked until august, then it supports my point of probably being an issue with your network, and not the phone itself.
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But then why does my moto g work? Why is the issue also all the way from Philadelphia to new jersey to new York. That supports software if you ask me. Also it working it lollipop supports software. Also if it was network I think we would hear more about this issue from other phones as well
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But then why does my moto g work? Why is the issue also all the way from Philadelphia to new jersey to new York. That supports software if you ask me. Also it working it lollipop supports software. Also if it was network I think we would hear more about this issue from other phones as well
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well, try the lollipop preview, it was working for the other guy, see if itll work for you. if it does, great.

Any method for using data while on call?? Is it even possible?

Im new to Sprint and found out this little bummer detail
Found this in the general section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3222940
Unsure myself if it works. Good luck
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I use that method. Easy for me as I've always been using a Google Voice number. You would have to get a different numbet for Google Voice though.
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I still have my Note 3 on Sprint and with that I can take a call and still use my data. Where as my Note 5 (also on Sprint) I can't do that. Not really seeing an answer as to why. Anybody have an idea?
Has to do with newer phones having one radio vs. the older phones having two. Googling "sprint data and voice at same time" has this as the first result. https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/217875 Post two explains it. Probably not going to get simulaneous data and voice anytime in the near future unfortunately.
I found out the hard way with my note 4 i was shocked. Not sure why they don't let you do 3g or hspa over calls. I have sprint note 5 on metro pc and can surf the net on hspa while on a call with no problem.
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Has to do with newer phones having one radio vs. the older phones having two. Googling "sprint data and voice at same time" has this as the first result. https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/217875 Post two explains it. Probably not going to get simulaneous data and voice anytime in the near future unfortunately.
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I can use data while on a call. It is limited to 3G but it still works so that tells me the hardware is capable of doing both. I'm on n920p unlocked using on AT&T
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I can use data while on a call. It is limited to 3G but it still works so that tells me the hardware is capable of doing both. I'm on n920p unlocked using on AT&T
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That's because AT&T is using GSM. Different radio than CDMA Sprint uses. Note 5 must come with both but generally lock the GSM radio? That I'm not sure about. What I do know is older phones had two CDMA radios put in them (such as the S3 on Sprint). One dedicated to voice -- another dedicated to data. Therefore you could do voice and data. GSM has always been one radio because that one radio can do both tasks at the same time. They got around it on CDMA by simply adding another radio in there and dedicating each one to one task.

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