Thank you to those reading this thread. I greatly appreciate any answers to some questions that have been bothering me.
As displayed in the image below, cell standby has been a significant part of my battery life. Although the image currently displays 6%, at one point during the day it was around 9-10%. Cell standby has also been on for the same amount of the time that the phone has been on battery( at the time of this screen shot 7 hrs 4mins). What is cell standby? Why is it using a signicant portion of my battery today? I had another day this week where my battery lasted for around 1 day and a couple of hours, and cell standby was not being used as much on that day.
My next question is what are the differences between each of the location modes? I assume "High Accuracy" is what you should have on when using Google Navigation for the most precise coordinates and directions. What about "Battery Saving" and "Device Only"? Which of the two uses less battery? I would still like the functionality of my Google Now cards, etc.
Lastly, yesterday I'm sure I messed around with my Location settings, and as a result I started having a Google Now card with title "Get location based cards". The card states "to see location- based cards such as local weather and commute traffic, turn on Wi-Fi & Mobile network location". Does that mean I need to be in location mode "Battery Saving" or "High accuracy" in order to see the weather card and how long it takes to get home from my location, etc?
Thanks again to the community and everyone who is able to provide responses to my questions above.
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I keep my brand new XDA2 always connected GRPS to receive instant e-mail?
However, I found that my XDA2 using power very quickly.
In the past, when I used the XDA1, my GPRS plan is not that much so that I can keep it on-line all the time and the phone battery gone out reasonably.
Any thoughts?
Try a longer interval between checking the email. I originally had my XDA set to check every 15 minutes but I could see that it was sapping the battery strength. I dialed it back to once per hour (this is the longest interval you can choose) and I can go a few days at a time this way (depending on how much I use the XDA otherwise).
That means GPRS really consume too much power.
I will adjust setting to an hour.
Thanks a lot.
let me add small comment on this, it's not the 'alway on' that drain the battary, but any type of data traffic . it would be the same if you use CSD line. I'm not sure, but I noticed that phone calls do not consume that much ... maybe coz data traffic uses lot of buffering and errors handling.
I've checked the forums but still theres no answer on what exactly is and what exactly it does, its pros and cons of the 'Enable always-on mobile data'
I would like to know what exactly is that option what sort of apps get affected cause right now gmail still working for me with that setting off. The thing is some people claim better battery life some people claim the opposite.
Anyone knows official use for it?? anyone? I started to test the battery life on it to see if it helps in the event it doesnt I would say the mytouch 4g is the worst phone ever.... i hardly get 10 hours of battery life with the phone just sitting on the desk...
cruzantis said:
I've checked the forums but still theres no answer on what exactly is and what exactly it does, its pros and cons of the 'Enable always-on mobile data'
I would like to know what exactly is that option what sort of apps get affected cause right now gmail still working for me with that setting off. The thing is some people claim better battery life some people claim the opposite.
Anyone knows official use for it?? anyone? I started to test the battery life on it to see if it helps in the event it doesnt I would say the mytouch 4g is the worst phone ever.... i hardly get 10 hours of battery life with the phone just sitting on the desk...
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'Always-On' Data tells your phone to open a data connection whenever one is available in your area, not just whenever you need it ('On-Demand' Data). If always-on is activated, your apps can connect and sync data in the background, unbeknownst to you. I got caught with it on my first phone bill, and it ended up costing me a good few hundred dollars. There are a few things you can do to help:
Settings > Accounts and Sync is your best friend. You can choose what accounts sync what data, and how often. The less you sync, the less data is used and the less time your radio spends transmitting (hopefully boosting your battery life a bit). You can also disable background syncing completely here, but that means you will have to manually sync your GMail, Facebook, Twitter etc.
As far as your battery life is concerned, under Settings > Location there are two options to 'Use wireless connections' and 'Use GPS satellites'. Having both of these ticked will use much more battery. Definitely untick 'use GPS satellites' and if you don't use any location-based widgets (like HTC weather) or services (Footprints etc), turn the other one off too. That should give you a bit more than ten hours
Let me know how you get on! Good luck!
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'Always-On' Data tells your phone to open a data connection whenever one is available in your area, not just whenever you need it ('On-Demand' Data). If always-on is activated, your apps can connect and sync data in the background, unbeknownst to you. I got caught with it on my first phone bill, and it ended up costing me a good few hundred dollars. There are a few things you can do to help:
Settings > Accounts and Sync is your best friend. You can choose what accounts sync what data, and how often. The less you sync, the less data is used and the less time your radio spends transmitting (hopefully boosting your battery life a bit). You can also disable background syncing completely here, but that means you will have to manually sync your GMail, Facebook, Twitter etc.
As far as your battery life is concerned, under Settings > Location there are two options to 'Use wireless connections' and 'Use GPS satellites'. Having both of these ticked will use much more battery. Definitely untick 'use GPS satellites' and if you don't use any location-based widgets (like HTC weather) or services (Footprints etc), turn the other one off too. That should give you a bit more than ten hours
Let me know how you get on! Good luck!
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I got kinda confused here. Your saying that settings -> Wireless & Networks ->Mobile Networks -> Uncheck Enable always-on mobile data
By turning it off you get less data consumption per month?
More battery life?
Any dissadvantage?
By your post I assume that if its uncheked then apps wont sync? right now i still receive my gmail and stuff.
100% correct. Turn it off and you'll have to sync your apps manually, but less data and more battery
If you're using email set up with push, this option has to remain on. Otherwise, after a certain amount of time (5 min on most htc's), the data connection is severed and your push will no longer work.
And yes, there is greater battery drain with it on, and higher data usage.
Hi guys. Somebody knows how much more battery this function drains when turned on?
Thanks
what function would that be?
It's in the save phone location... Don't kow if it really drains the battery...
If you have data connection on, or WIFI is connected to your device, this option will "locate" your phone on a regular basis, which means it basically turns on your GPS module, and runs associated services that will pinpoint your coordinates. Then it will send to to Microsoft. So, not a HUGE battery drain per say, but it does utilize more of your connection, and anything that is turned on can cut down on the battery juice.
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If you have data connection on, or WIFI is connected to your device, this option will "locate" your phone on a regular basis, which means it basically turns on your GPS module, and runs associated services that will pinpoint your coordinates. Then it will send to to Microsoft. So, not a HUGE battery drain per say, but it does utilize more of your connection, and anything that is turned on can cut down on the battery juice.
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Not quite. "Save my Location" is the one that turns on GPS and sends the location back to MS.
The "Get Results Faster" option, which the OP was asking about, is to select whether remote commands are sent via SMS or Push. I expect this 'may' have a higher battery drain because it will keep a data connection open if you're not already using it.
See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/start/find-a-lost-phone.aspx
I have posted this on Titan forum as that's the handset I noticed it on.
After 8107 updated,
With Location services turned on - I was getting average 12 hours of usage.
With Location serivices turned off - I am getting average 38 hours and still counting with 23% battery remaining.
All the usage patterns are identifcal, may be an email or two more or less. The travel, network coverage etc is same from home to work on all days.
Does anyone else see on other handsets?
Before I write to HTC, I just wanted to check if any other OEMs had same experience on more/less serious scale after 8107 update. It might help to find out if it is OS or OEM issue.
Just a bump as it seemed to have gone unnoticed
Just for anyone else suffering a horrific battery issue....
I would take a few photos a day. My battery would die in a few hours, with the culprit being "Google Play Services", which when drilled down showed the camera as the high battery user.
Furthermore, I was getting poor GSM data rates, with the phone seemingly unable to find the nearest transmitter (it would jump to full bars for a few seconds, then lock on to a 1 bar cell and constantly change between H and 3G). While all this was happening, the Nexus 5 got hot.
Now do this:
Settings>Location>Mode>Device Only
Make sure it's in "Device Only" mode. Logic says that this is the wrong setting, but now I can go a couple of days no problem, I lose 3% overnight, the camera uses next to no juice and "Google Play Services" doesn't even make it onto the list. :laugh:
If you're in an area with good signal I would say you have an issue with the data/gsm module and your solution is not proper. Try launching maps - it will suggest enabling mobile/wifi location for better location service.
Mine is set to high accuracy and my battery life is pretty good.
Verify if you're having this issue on multiple locations or only on certain places?
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Pottsy said:
Just for anyone else suffering a horrific battery issue....
I would take a few photos a day. My battery would die in a few hours, with the culprit being "Google Play Services", which when drilled down showed the camera as the high battery user.
Furthermore, I was getting poor GSM data rates, with the phone seemingly unable to find the nearest transmitter (it would jump to full bars for a few seconds, then lock on to a 1 bar cell and constantly change between H and 3G). While all this was happening, the Nexus 5 got hot.
Now do this:
Settings>Location>Mode>Device Only
Make sure it's in "Device Only" mode. Logic says that this is the wrong setting, but now I can go a couple of days no problem, I lose 3% overnight, the camera uses next to no juice and "Google Play Services" doesn't even make it onto the list. :laugh:
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Yes, logic says it is the wrong setting because it is. "Device Only" will only use GPS. "Low Accuracy" will only use googles location approximation via cell towers and wifi signals. "High Accuracy" will use both.
Once you set it to "Device Only" you robbed your phone from being able to track your location (for instance for google now). So naturally you don't have that much battery drain any more when taking pictures. I'm 100% sure that you are tagging your photos with your geo location, so every time you take a picture, the google play service determins your position.
To clarify: GPS isn't on all the time and is only activated when an app requests the phones position. The google location stuff is on all the time and will be active even when the phone is idling.
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Yes, logic says it is the wrong setting because it is.
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I appreciate that.
I have tried with the correct settings, and it seems to leave "Google Play Services" using between 30% and 60% of my battery. Things get really bad when I am in a weak GSM signal location - with the phone getting really quite hot. Chrome triggers this, but then just having the phone awake seems to get it going.
Watching Google Maps in a position where I get no GPS signal (so monitoring the position calculated from the GSM network) I can see my location jumping from mast to mast every 10 seconds or so.
I realise that turning it off is "wrong", but it is not as wrong as my battery dying at 4pm, and until it is fixed it will have to remain off. Google Now is useless since I am not in the US, and Geo Location on the camera is switched off.
I 2nd that pottsy i disabled my yesterday and got my 1st good day with battery
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Pottsy said:
I appreciate that.
I have tried with the correct settings, and it seems to leave "Google Play Services" using between 30% and 60% of my battery. Things get really bad when I am in a weak GSM signal location - with the phone getting really quite hot. Chrome triggers this, but then just having the phone awake seems to get it going.
Watching Google Maps in a position where I get no GPS signal (so monitoring the position calculated from the GSM network) I can see my location jumping from mast to mast every 10 seconds or so.
I realise that turning it off is "wrong", but it is not as wrong as my battery dying at 4pm, and until it is fixed it will have to remain off. Google Now is useless since I am not in the US, and Geo Location on the camera is switched off.
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Not saying that you're giving a bad tip. It's just not the fix for all battery problems with the n5, but only for the specific case that an app is "location hungry".
Now I did this yesterday and it has worked for Google Services but now I am checking my battery stats and "Google Search" is next most draining app behind the Screen... Why would google search be using that kind of battery?? I am not searching anything lol
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Not saying that you're giving a bad tip. It's just not the fix for all battery problems with the n5, but only for the specific case that an app is "location hungry".
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He says it fixes the problem everyone is having with Google Play Services draining ~50% of their battery. It's a documented problem that isn't just all over the forums and G+, but Android Police even put out a story about it. Maybe the title to the thread is misleading, but the OP's initial post clearly states his problem and the solution he found for his problem.
jm6001 said:
Now I did this yesterday and it has worked for Google Services but now I am checking my battery stats and "Google Search" is next most draining app behind the Screen... Why would google search be using that kind of battery?? I am not searching anything lol
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Google search is the launcher app used for the stock rom on the nexus 5. Maybe you are using your home button a bit too often?
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He says it fixes the problem everyone is having with Google Play Services draining ~50% of their battery. It's a documented problem that isn't just all over the forums and G+, but Android Police even put out a story about it. Maybe the title to the thread is misleading, but the OP's initial post clearly states his problem and the solution he found for his problem.
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What others are saying, though, is that this fix only fixes the symptom...not the actual issue. If you get battery drain because of location services, turn off location services in the apps that are draining it heavily.
Example: He takes pictures during the day and notices battery drain. Disable Geo-Tagging on pictures, and see what effect it has. If you turn the location services to "Device Only" you're going to have issues actually making use of location services (think Maps, Navigation, Google Now, Facebook, etc...that use location). Anytime you use these services it'll have to activate the GPS module to get a location...which can take 10-20 seconds, if you have clear access to the sky. For reference: the GPS module uses a lot more battery than the triangulation done by the cell towers...so actively using any app that uses location services will actually use more battery.
The other thing to try and disabling background processes. Close applications you're not using, and in the developer menu limit how many applications can be running in the background at a time. It could be that your sync services or other applications are constantly checking for location. Many of those applications will refuse to use the hardware GPS and instead rely on the triangulation services, which is why you might be seeing this battery longevity increase.
Synopsis: Setting it to Device-Only is a bad idea; instead, try to find the root of the problem.
I have found the problem.
It's not the apps making the calls, it's the location service itself. And I will specifically disagree on one point: using GPS only uses a lot less battery than cell location via a broken OS.
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Another solution ...
Pottsy said:
I appreciate that.
I have tried with the correct settings, and it seems to leave "Google Play Services" using between 30% and 60% of my battery. Things get really bad when I am in a weak GSM signal location - with the phone getting really quite hot. Chrome triggers this, but then just having the phone awake seems to get it going.
Watching Google Maps in a position where I get no GPS signal (so monitoring the position calculated from the GSM network) I can see my location jumping from mast to mast every 10 seconds or so.
I realise that turning it off is "wrong", but it is not as wrong as my battery dying at 4pm, and until it is fixed it will have to remain off. Google Now is useless since I am not in the US, and Geo Location on the camera is switched off.
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I think there's a better solution ... Go to settings>apps, and for every app that uses Google Play Services (google search, google now, maps, etc), clear the their data. Google Play Services went from 2nd biggest hog (after the display) to way down on the list. Maybe there's only one app that needs to have its data cleared to fix it, dunno I just cleared them all.