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Ok, I asked this in theDudes thread for this release but it wasnt answered.
My question is this. I have went from Rc33 to the 1.5 cupcake build. I absolutely love it. Now, on JF's build i was using the apps to sd mod. So currently I have been running all my apps on my sd. Now that I have updated to theDudes, all of my apps are there, but my phone storage is pretty low.
Are all my apps on my sdcard still? All of them are showing up on phone. how do i figure this out, and or get my phone memory back??
thanks guys!
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Anybody suggestions?
All i know is I did an update without a wipe comming from jfrc33 with apps to sd mod by lucidrem. Now all my apps show up, but my available memory is 33mb.
Did my apps somehow make it back to the phone memory? I read that after an install there should be 51mb free. So im missing almost 20.
Anyone?
If you went from RC33 to TheDude's you probably need to do a wipe and then flash TheDude. Then, create all of your symlinks again. YMMV, but that's what I've heard recommended. I had to wipe going form Haykuro's to TheDudes and those were both App2SD versions and both based on 1.5 --- I'd imagine you'd have issues coming from RC33 to 1.5 without wiping. But I could be wrong.
and 33MB seems like a lot of available room to me. I have my apps to SD and I have 26MB free on /data --- and that's after freshly clearing my browser cache. (I dont have my caches to SD yet.)
Well, oddly enough when i flashed and didnt do a wipe, my phone came back exactly as it was b4 it was powered off. I noticed that the memory was alot lower than what i was used to getting, but that could be the build.
Anyway, I wiped the device and had to do the whole initial setup and all.
From this point, how do i do apps to sd on this rom? can you point me to a link?
I know with jf's you run the commands through the telnet.. but i dont think thats the case here. I looked through the thread, but nothing.
look under the applications tab for dev tools. There is a terminal emulator there.
type su at the prompt then enter the commands. You may need to boot to the recovery console: (power down phone, press home + power until text appears, press alt + x) Once at the recovery console type the sym links to complete the transition.
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From this point, how do i do apps to sd on this rom? can you point me to a link?
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Search is your friend. http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Haykuro_Apps_to_SD
Make sure you have your card partitioned correctly first.
I went straight to Dude's .8 apps2sd nowipe from JF's RC33 and everything works perfectly but I only have 20mb free.
I've only moved apps, not data or cache, so that may be why. I'm seeing all these people claiming 50-70mb free though and it makes me jealous. I may be just imagining it, but it seems when I start getting down to this amount of free space, the phone tends to get a little laggy.
How Did You Guys Move Apps But Not Data/Cache? Lol Those Are The Easiest Things To Do On Your G1.
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How Did You Guys Move Apps But Not Data/Cache? Lol Those Are The Easiest Things To Do On Your G1.
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I had the cache moved to SD for a long time. Then at around 80 installed apps, internal space started to become a real problem. I got tired of managing apps on a daily basis, not to mention the dismal performance of the phone when memory gets tight.
So I broke down and bought a class 6 card and partitioned. I initially tried moving both apps and data. It was a disaster. I never could get to work...either it never thought the apps were installed, or the phone got stuck at the flashing android.
I tried scripts, and even making the symlinks by hand. Nothing helped. I think I must have done a factory wipe about a dozen times trying to get it to work.
I finally ended up just moving the apps, but not the data. That worked just fine and has been working ever since. I think people who are moving both must not have very many apps installed in the first place.
If space starts to get tight again, I'll try moving the caches. In the meantime, I'm hoping Google/T-Mo makes and effort to resolve the lack of internal memory another way.....other than expecting us to buy a new phone.
I'm keeping a sharp eye on NuviPhone....4GB internal memory...I'm sure it won't be long before someone has Android running on it.
I have the same issue. 19mb available after cleared cache. updated from lucid rem mod to .8 apps2sd. had about 42mb free before update. It showed me having 18mb free originally, not sure why i have 19 now, although I did uninstall powermanager since it doesn't work on Dudes build. but that should have been installed to sd?!
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I had the cache moved to SD for a long time. Then at around 80 installed apps, internal space started to become a real problem. I got tired of managing apps on a daily basis, not to mention the dismal performance of the phone when memory gets tight.
So I broke down and bought a class 6 card and partitioned. I initially tried moving both apps and data. It was a disaster. I never could get to work...either it never thought the apps were installed, or the phone got stuck at the flashing android.
I tried scripts, and even making the symlinks by hand. Nothing helped. I think I must have done a factory wipe about a dozen times trying to get it to work.
I finally ended up just moving the apps, but not the data. That worked just fine and has been working ever since. I think people who are moving both must not have very many apps installed in the first place.
If space starts to get tight again, I'll try moving the caches. In the meantime, I'm hoping Google/T-Mo makes and effort to resolve the lack of internal memory another way.....other than expecting us to buy a new phone.
I'm keeping a sharp eye on NuviPhone....4GB internal memory...I'm sure it won't be long before someone has Android running on it.
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Yeah I Get What Your Saying I Have Like 59MB Free But I Don't Have Apps Installed To SD-Card. I Would Love If T-Mobile/HTC Made An Update Where We Could Just Use Our Memory Card To Save Apps And Data/Cache Without Rooting It, That Would Be Insanely Crazy I Have A 8GB SD-Card But I'm Not Sure It It's Class 6 Dam, Bought It For Nothing.
I just moved dalvik-cache to sd card and went from 18mb available to 57mb in Dudes build.
Try this
I actually ran into the same senario when I went from RC33 to theDudes cupcake! I went back and reflashed my phone and went back to the RC33 build with mod, think that was 1.42, then instead of using LuciREM apps to sdcard i tried using MarcusMaximus's. They both move apps to sdcard and both work great. I realized on MarcusMaximus's edition after running commands in the terminal we rooted from recovery and mounted in recovery as well. I guess that did the trick for me, so now i'm using theDudes cupcake on a apps to sd command from MarcusMaximus. Thanks to all these guys, they rock from JF, LuciREM, MarcusMaximus and theDude. Hope it helps!
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Yeah I Get What Your Saying I Have Like 59MB Free But I Don't Have Apps Installed To SD-Card. I Would Love If T-Mobile/HTC Made An Update Where We Could Just Use Our Memory Card To Save Apps And Data/Cache Without Rooting It, That Would Be Insanely Crazy I Have A 8GB SD-Card But I'm Not Sure It It's Class 6 Dam, Bought It For Nothing.
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I agree with u, but im wondering if it would be possible to install apps directly to the SD card, i hope google can do something to make it work. If tried allocating my apps to my sd card twice and i failed, the first time it seems i got success but after i while, applications like ahome forced me to close, which was not good, not only with this one, so then i thought maybe it would be good idea to reboot the phone so i turned off and when i turned on, it got stuck in the splash image, buu anyway i fixed by deleting my ext2 partition and rebooting my phone with another build...after a while i tried to make a partition using only the phone and running some command...and i got the same problem, so i guess allocating app2sd doesnt work for me .Anyway the internal space still is not a problem for me cause i have 71apps with 20Mb free..not so much i know....im still having JFv1.42 RC33 but i guess i will move to dude .8 build i heard a lot about that build...so seems to work good for now...but people are demanding many things from his build. What im happy is to be part of this community cause when i got the problem with my phone i couldn't use it for 2 days, i didn't know what to do..and was asking questions to everyone, but i guess everything is in this forum, we just have to read, i learned a lot thanks to the contributions of guy like you, that share experiences with their phones...thank u guys and of course to the developers that make android be better.
Greetings from Peru
Ok first off hope everyone had a great holiday (or Christmas, as the case may be )
I have come to realize that alot of my issues may/may not have been caused by factors outside my phone or the rom I was attempting to install and use. I will give myself credit tho in that in all but one case I have managed to follow instructions to a "T" and have not experienced many/any of the issues that others have. Anyways, I got a new wireless router, and also a class 10 SD card. Some of my earlier connectivity issues are very rare now, and camera issues seem to be minimal also (assuming that the issue there was write speed to the card).
So I've really come to like a few of the roms, in particular one I'm liking right now VERY MUCH is MIUI 1.11.9. What a nicely put together package that is. I would really really like to stay with it.
However, it's huge. With that and two apps (Gmail and Facebook), I'm lucky if I have 14 mb left over. Obviously, this causes crashes and reboots left right and center. Camera usage is almost impossible. But, I'm willing to admit, the problem is likely my fault, because I have not done anything to manipulate swap/ext/etc on my sd card. I have the phone, and I have a formatted 16 gb class 10 sd card.
I've looked through 10 pages of threads and to be honest I'm finding it hard to know where to begin. I'm convinced, however, that if I can learn what swap ext/ext2/ext3 do, and how to create/use them..and whatever else, that MIUI and probably a few of the other roms will be amazing for me.
So is someone bored over the holidays here and can help either point me in the right direction of a Guide to do this, or maybe even write a bit about it for me? Assume I know nothing about how to create a swap, an ext, link2sd, any of it. I don't know how to use terminal emulator, modify or execute scripts...but I can learn!!
I realize that I'm asking for info that is probably obtainable by reading numerous other threads..but I can't find anything truly comphrensive..it's too bad threads couldn't be "stickied"...this subject seems crucial to me in order to get some of these roms to run ok. Many of them operate the same way: they take up 100 mb or so, and they don't allow for easy moving of apps to the SD card.
Anyways many thanks in advance if you can help. I'm sure there's a few others who could probably use a refresher in this also.
I'm learning alot about this and hope to update this thread with my own tips for how to do this in the coming days.
That is, if anyone is interested. If so, hit me with a msg.
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internal upgrade?
can someone tell me how to upgrade the internal memory because im getting very low in phone memory.. are there any solutions like using the 1GB for the internal memory of my 8GB card?
Well, you cant physically expand the memory but you can virtually via an extended primary partition and an app like link2sd.
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Hey acrobat69
I am pretty much the same boat as you. I have tried a bunch of ROMs, and I am still on 6.3 rc3 now.. went back and tweeked after learning some things and this is the least buggy for me at the moment.
I also do not use swap at the moment.. but this is also something that those in the know here on the Xt720 forums have debated.. how useful is it???
I would love to try swap.. or any other tips you might have.. so I at least will be listening.
I would like to get FM radio working on 6.3 rc3 too.. no luck so far.
I have found that when you overclock.. some speeds and Vsel work better in some roms.. or applications.
I saw one fellow who was running 800/48vsel - overall nice and great for battery usage.. but camera would not work at 48vsel.. would crash it .. running several highpower apps like wifi tether and gps at the same time would crash a low vsel set phone..
SO I know there are many factors that you can tune to make a rom work best for you.
James
When I get back to my PC, ill type something up on this for you as well as archer's other thread similar to this Q.
FYI, FM radio works since 6.3.0 RC4. Well at least as much as FM radio "works" on any of the non-stock-based ROMs at the moment-- volume control is difficult/problematic.
I think 6.3.6 is a good choice if you don't mind disabling the hardware button lights. And if it does bother you, I can make a patch that puts the lights back as the were in RC3 (but would disable notification leds).
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Ok so to answer a few of the above questions, I'll try to break it up into sections. Ext2/3/4, Swap and basic memory management.
Ext partitions: since our XT's are so low on memory, a fair while back some scripts were created to make it so that when you downloaded an app, it went into your ext partition and not to the internal. Remember that this was when we had 2.1 and Froyo was only a dream. As you know Froyo has the native App2sd function where you can move most of the app's data/function to your SD card via the .androidsecure folder on your card. Since this was not a function on 2.1 we needed a bypass. This was done by creating a EXT partition on your SDCard to bypass/hijack the installation process and "force" the apps to install to the SDCard rather than the meager internal memory. Since the grand old days, we have evolved that function from app2sd to app2ext where now the /cache can be moved over to the partition as well, in addition to apps like Link2sd with one-click UI to do it for you.
This is how to do it.
1 Make sure your ROM supports app2ext-it should be in that ROMs OP.
2 You need to use GParted or Minitool Partition Wizard to create your Ext2/3 partitions (do not create an Ext4 with either of these b/c they won't work correctly, most ROMs don't support it and you can convert it from 2/3 to 4 in MZ's open recovery).
3 You have a 16gb card and are asking what size should I make my partitions. They need to be in this order-FAT/EXT/SWAP from L->R. FAT is what it sounds like. It is your biggest sized one (and make it Primary/Bootable in your partition wizard). Your Ext is going to be up to you on the size. I usually recommend 350-450mb. Anything bigger is really wasted space. In fact, I chorgle to myself when I see people with 1gb Ext partitions b/c your average size app is usually about 7-12mb (with something like Angry Birds at a meaty 18mb). Remember that 1gb=1024mb. 12mb vs 1024mb-see what I am saying here?
4 So now you have your partitions set up. How do you activate it. You flash your ROM and let it settle down. Get ROOT and open a file manager and go to the ROOT. You will see a folder labeled SD-ext. Open this folder and make another folder called App (not Apps-no S) or if you are using Link2sd, you would put a folder called Link2sd (not LinkS2sd-again no S). Reboot and BAM!!!once it boots up, all your apps that you had will be in there and any new ones will be installed there saving you tons of internal space.
I'll cover Swap tomorrow b/c I am tired of typing for now but here is a thread on some unknown types of memory management that you can do on your own.
Sorry for the long post but I wanted to make it as general as possible so that it wasn't too technical.
Woodrube thank you very much for that, indeed very helpful and to the point. Ill hit you with a thanks when back on my laptop.
James: debates nothwithstanding, I can't see how its possible to install one of these Roms and actually use it...and any decent number of apps with stability, without using the extended partition. I have not had any success until I learned how to do this. Therefore, were absolutely not going to debate it, just do it!
To Woodrubes excellent instructions I will add these tips, learned from Mio7's advice and trial and error:
- do any partitioning before you install your new rom, and do it via a card reader inserted into your computer, not by plugging the phone into the computer via usb.
- do not make the second partition fat. In some threads people said it worked however it never works for me. Create the second partition as ext2 , then go to open recovery and convert it to ext3
- use root explorer to create the folder in sd-ext as Woodrube advised. Make sure root explorer is in R/W mode not R/O or you wont be allowed to
- install Link2sd first of any program. It's when you're running link2sd it seems that you can't create the link for certain applications check the market to see if to the downloadable version then uninstall the app from the phone and reinstall it yourself then when you go back into linksd youll be able to create a link. I'm still experimenting with just how much I can rip out of the system and then reinstall myself so as to be able to move over to the sd card. Btw if the rom app manager wont let you uninstall, use the uninstall function in link2sd. It works, even tho it says "Failed" when done.
See the signature at the bottom of my thread that should be all you need to know about whether not the advice in this thread is good because I'm posting from my phone and I'm using voice to text
Next up I'm going to try installing other roms like MIUI or 7.1 to see you what ones this can be used on. I will post my successes and failures in this thread
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With regard to milestone overclock settings I'm currently running 900 and 60 and have achieved general stability with no crashes during picture taking or video recording
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Mio: Nooo don't disable LED its great the way it is. Who needs those backlights anyways the keys are far enough away to not need a light to tell my thumbs where to go by now
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So I've spent the past day re-searching all over these forums and on the internet trying to find a way to get past the low internal storage issue. From what I've read, I read that it is able to install your applications on your SD, which is what I do. However my internal storage still fills up somehow. So I assumed this is the application's data that cannot be moved from internal to SD.
However, further reading has brought me to partitioning and I tried installing several different ROMs on my Chacha, then using CWN Recovery I partitioned my SD which I thought would result in being able to move applications AND the data completely to the SD partition. However, using Link2SD or App2SD and even Darktremor, my internal memory still keeps filling up.
Am I doing something wrong? Or if all this fails, is there anyway to completely omit the use of the internal storage and run everything from my SD?
The fact I can only install like 6 applications is driving me up the wall. Thank you.
Use SuperOSR with Darktremor.
The only way of getting space back with the stock ROM is by resetting your phone to factory data. Otherwise, use CWM to clear the dalvik-cache when needed.
Hi there.
I found it very frustrating to run quickly out of storage as well.
Since a few weeks I use TitaniumBackup on this application rocks! It allows to move any application and its data to the SD. It even allows to integrate the updates into the ROM. The application is not free but cost only about 50HKD (abt 5EUR) and considering the great job it does it is more than worth it!
Hope this can help.
BR
Really? Titanium Backup does that? Wow, fascinating.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Gt-8013, 16gb white. So I've had my note since the end of September and have not really used it much till recently. Downloading large games/apps and coming to realize that I can't move ANYTHING to the SD card what a shame. Now before people just comment and say why didn't you buy a 32gb I thought that I could move the apps to the SD card and managing storage wouldn't be a problem. How wrong was I. So my first thread and I'm asking what have you guys done to solve this annoying problem no matter how easy or hard the method was.Yes, I've searched the threads and I've read a lot of options but I just feel like none of them are Noob friendly.
TIL : What was the easiest method for you to move apps to your SD card?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Gt-8013, 16gb white. So I've had my note since the end of September and have not really used it much till recently. Downloading large games/apps and coming to realize that I can't move ANYTHING to the SD card what a shame. Now before people just comment and say why didn't you buy a 32gb I thought that I could move the apps to the SD card and managing storage wouldn't be a problem. How wrong was I. So my first thread and I'm asking what have you guys done to solve this annoying problem no matter how easy or hard the method was.Yes, I've searched the threads and I've read a lot of options but I just feel like none of them are Noob friendly.
TIL : What was the easiest method for you to move apps to your SD card?
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Check my thread (one on my signature). Haven't been able to get it working for every android device yet, but it works great for anything with data/media, which includes the note 10.1 Essentially my script makes all apps (and apps only) get installed straight in the external SD. One warning: the process is more advanced than just flashing something in recovery, though not too advanced that You won't be able to do if you follow instructions.
Personally I use directory bind, this requires root. Directory bind will allow you to specify exactly which folders you want to redirect to sd. I currently redirect all my game data to sd, leave plenty of room on internal storage.
The other bonus, since my game data is on sd if I have to wipe I won't have to download all those gigs of data again.
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I dont know why more developers dont give you the option to store large data on the external card. Bards Tale came out and initially stored all data internal (3-4Gb), couple of updates later and it gives you the option to store externally so more developers need to cotton on to this and sort their apps out !
i use zedomax's apps2sd script to swap storage
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Check my thread (one on my signature). Haven't been able to get it working for every android device yet, but it works great for anything with data/media, which includes the note 10.1 Essentially my script makes all apps (and apps only) get installed straight in the external SD. One warning: the process is more advanced than just flashing something in recovery, though not too advanced that You won't be able to do if you follow instructions.
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Will do so, I take it that i have to be rooted for me to apply your script. (sorry for the noob question)
Also, like to thank everyone for help/answers. I wouldn't be able to do half the stuff with out this community. :good:
OK, I am having storage/space issues with my Blaze that are making the cameras inoperable (I keep getting a message stating there's a lack of memory or space on the SD card). I am running CM10 Stable on Android 4.1.2 with the CM kernel.
When I go into Settings and look at the Storage, here's what it says (I tried taking Screenshots but they didn't work):
Total Space= 1.12GB
814MB of Apps
252MB Available
Internal Storage= 1.4GB
208MB Apps
553MB Pics/Videos
4.78MB Downloads
SD Card= 3.69MB Total Space
1.99GB Available
Here's the thing: I have NO pics/videos, yet somehow 553 MB are being used for this. So what's the deal? Can someone give me the quickie/noob explanation? Or at least explain what's the best way to control your storage on the Blaze (and yes, I've used Search but haven't really found what I was looking for)? I would really appreciate it, this is a very annoying and frustrating issue.
Thanks!
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OK, I am having storage/space issues with my Blaze that are making the cameras inoperable (I keep getting a message stating there's a lack of memory or space on the SD card). I am running CM10 Stable on Android 4.1.2 with the CM kernel.
When I go into Settings and look at the Storage, here's what it says (I tried taking Screenshots but they didn't work):
Total Space= 1.12GB
814MB of Apps
252MB Available
Internal Storage= 1.4GB
208MB Apps
553MB Pics/Videos
4.78MB Downloads
SD Card= 3.69MB Total Space
1.99GB Available
Here's the thing: I have NO pics/videos, yet somehow 553 MB are being used for this. So what's the deal? Can someone give me the quickie/noob explanation? Or at least explain what's the best way to control your storage on the Blaze (and yes, I've used Search but haven't really found what I was looking for)? I would really appreciate it, this is a very annoying and frustrating issue.
Thanks!
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i think you never cleaned up ur cache and over time lots of crap got accumulated hogging up all your space...also u need to look into your thumbnails as they tend to stay over time even if you move the actual photo...all you need to do is to backup your apps and their data n then boot in recovery mode and do a factory reset and then boot and go to any file manager and move whatever pics and vids you have on internal storage(by change if u have any) to external storage and delete the DCIM folder then...if even that doesnot let you do anything i think you are in need to format your system, cache, data and dalvik and flash the rom u use fresh and start over...you will be good as new then for sure even if it takes lil more time to set up things as u want again but thats better than being frustated and not able to do anything...hope that helps you
Check the ".thumbnails" directory under DCIM (or camera, I forget). My daughter's blaze seems to like accumulating 100+MB files I'm there.
Definitely check app cache too. The Cheeseburger Network app was pulling 500MB of cache on my S2.
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I was traveling but I read your recommendations and deleted a ton of files under DCIM folder. That seems to have fixed the issue for now, thanks so much. But I do need to re-flash the ROM anyway due to another issue so that will help.
Thanks! :good: