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[KEYBOARD] 8pen

New keyboard coming out sometime today? What do you guys think? I'll try anything twice...
http://www.the8pen.com/index.html

Webstarr said:
New keyboard coming out sometime today? What do you guys think? I'll try anything twice...
http://www.the8pen.com/index.html
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that kinda just blew my mind haha
don't you mean sometime tomorrow?

i was reading about his earlier.. i still think swype could be alot faster and easier to use. It's gonna take quite awhile to get use to all the letters being at weird positions.. i can pretty much type using swype half looking.. with this your eyes are stuck on the keyboard. and imo i like looking at a keyboard more than an X with letters lined up.. kinda tacky UI

doesnt seem good

Oh geez, it already looks complicated and the video doing the demo just made it more confusing. I'll try it out but swype all the way!

I'll give it a go, looks interesting.. Could be a big learning curve though, learning to touch type all over again.

Brilliant ! When you think about it, the keyboard was not designed for mobile devices. There will be a steep learning curve because we have been using the kb for so long but I think it will be much more efficient,faster and less error prone.
I'll definitely give it a try.

ya i love swype too but i will definitely try it. did anyone try messagease?

I am totally converted to SwiftKey but i'll give this one a try too. I like that they've come at the problem from a totally original angle so it has to be worth a bit of time to get used to it.

3Shirts said:
I am totally converted to SwiftKey but i'll give this one a try too. I like that they've come at the problem from a totally original angle so it has to be worth a bit of time to get used to it.
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its up on the market for 1.59. not sure if that was the best choice. should have atleast made it a free beta/trial at first

Using It now. Not sure how I f e e l About it
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Hi.
I just got 8pen, and so far I have to say it is an interesting concept. Other than having to relearn where the letters are (they are in no way associated with a traditional keyboard), it is a really easy way to type.
I had to keep lifting my thumb to see where my next letter was, but I think I will get the hang of it soon.
This will be great for guys with big fingers because it just uses gestures, and the user will not have to try to get a finger on a teeny tiny key.
I think they should have had a trial period, though. I did pay the $1.59, a small price to pay for the newest, latest, and (possibly) greatest, but if I don't get the hang of this soon I am going to uninstall. It should not take me a minute and a half to type "how are you".

escalavee said:
Hi.
I just got 8pen, and so far I have to say it is an interesting concept. Other than having to relearn where the letters are (they are in no way associated with a traditional keyboard), it is a really easy way to type.
I had to keep lifting my thumb to see where my next letter was, but I think I will get the hang of it soon.
This will be great for guys with big fingers because it just uses gestures, and the user will not have to try to get a finger on a teeny tiny key.
I think they should have had a trial period, though. I did pay the $1.59, a small price to pay for the newest, latest, and (possibly) greatest, but if I don't get the hang of this soon I am going to uninstall. It should not take me a minute and a half to type "how are you".
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I agree with most of what you said, but I UN installed it. The layout is too erratic and highly frustrating. I will stick with SlideIT
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bennettm89 said:
I agree with most of what you said, but I UN installed it. The layout is too erratic and highly frustrating. I will stick with SlideIT
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Did you have any issues getting a refund that you know of?

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escalavee said:
Did you have any issues getting a refund that you know of?
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No sir... but you made me question it. When I downloaded the application, I got an e-mail and shrugged it off as proof of purchase and cleared notification, same with when I uninstalled it. Once you said that, I went back through my gmail and double checked. It appears as though I was not charged.

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I know... I forgot the 's' at the end of 'minutes'. I typed that response with 8pen too, it was very aggravating. The worst is the fact that you can't memorize the letters and constantly have to lift your finger in order to see where the heck the next character is!

So I'm using it on the N1 and I cannot understand how to select a letter outside of the first ones (. y i a , e t o). Even doing the tutorial, Step 2: Your First Word...I'm trying to type "you" and it keeps typing "yoo" because I cannot select anything past O
Scratch that...so to anyone else baffled by this, I just figured out you must proceed to another quadrant and then go to the center to get the second letter or more quadrants for other letters.

Thoughts so far

So far I love the phone. The feel and weight of the phone just seems better then my Captivate(which I gave to my wife). After not getting data on the phone unless I had WiFi on kind of sucked, but if you make a new network. You will be able to gain data back.
The only thing I am not liking is when I set up my HTC sense with Facebook, it put all my friends from facebook into my contacts list in my phone. I do not want all my friends on the list. I have tried and figure out how to delete from the list but cant figure it out. Anyone know how?
I also side loaded a few apps using the SLW program, once you download HTC sync on your computer it was easy.
I cant wait until this phone gets rooted so I can go in and change some stuff around, like ringtones. You can have custom ringtones when the phone is not plugged in to the USB but once you plug the USB in, it reverts back to the stock ringtones because it thinks shuts off your SD Card. Well you know what, I guess I can have the option to only have it charge will plugged in. That might work.
Other then that me loves the phone. Glade my wife had an upgrade so I could get the phone for $79.99 from Costco and a free charger with it. She loves my old Captivate so I was like hell ya ill trade ya!

Ha I love it...got a feeling alot of wives will be getting a captivate tommorow
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Happy valentines day ......here's my old phone! lol yes there will be alot of this goin on
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lol actually bought the wife a new Inspire to match mine, talked my parents into both getting them as well !

milleirish said:
The only thing I am not liking is when I set up my HTC sense with Facebook, it put all my friends from facebook into my contacts list in my phone. I do not want all my friends on the list. I have tried and figure out how to delete from the list but cant figure it out. Anyone know how?
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I have the Evo for sprint which should be similar. Open your People/contacts app, hit menu, and you should see an option that says 'View'. Select view to choose which contacts you want displayed and deselect your Facebook account.
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abanh said:
I have the Evo for sprint which should be similar. Open your People/contacts app, hit menu, and you should see an option that says 'View'. Select view to choose which contacts you want displayed and deselect your Facebook account.
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Ok so in the people and contacts it has my correct contacts. What am talking about is when you look at the phone on the homescreen you see the button that says phone. If you click on that it will show every one of my Facebook friends, even the ones they I dont have in my contact list. I dont want them there.

I haven't mentioned to my wife yet... she's gonna wonder why the hell I'm getting up early on a Sunday morning, probably think I'm having an affair, lol.

aimfire72 said:
I haven't mentioned to my wife yet... she's gonna wonder why the hell I'm getting up early on a Sunday morning, probably think I'm having an affair, lol.
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You are, with the Inspire 4G. hahaha

I dont regret it for a second, yeah no Real 4G but we have root, roms and radios NOW.
Also, for those that just want to install apps and leave the phone stock you can go to this thread created by me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943174
The phone feels so polished and the screen is awesome, no Craptivate screen but it will turn heads.
We have accomplished so much in so little time.
Thanks to all the devs and porters out there, this is already a more than worthwhile device and for the price you can not beat it.
Atrix is just a bad memory of Motoblur hell, good luck trying to even root that damn thing.. hahaha

milleirish said:
Ok so in the people and contacts it has my correct contacts. What am talking about is when you look at the phone on the homescreen you see the button that says phone. If you click on that it will show every one of my Facebook friends, even the ones they I dont have in my contact list. I dont want them there.
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Ok I know what you're saying, and I didn't even realized my phone did that until you just mentioned it. I didn't see a way to get rid of them either.
If this is bothering you because you have to scroll through so many more names to get to the contact you want to dial, have you tried the t9 smart dialer feature? Lets say you want to dial 'John', instead of scrolling all the way down to his name, just spell out his name via t9 (5 for 'j', 6 for 'o', 4 for 'h', etc). The contacts that match what you're typing will appear and you don't have to scroll through all the names. My Evo and other HTC sense phones do this ( stock android doesn't, but you can download other dialers in the market that do). If you already knew this and just don't want the names to appear, can't help you there.
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I really, really like this phone. My ear speaker is great, although the external speaker is a little weak. Not a huge deal though, just had to select the high pitched notifications to be sure to hear them.
Sent from my Inspire 4g using XDA app.

I thought it was interesting that Facebook .com thought my phone was a nexus one
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i went to check this out in the store today. a few thoughts
-size is great. i compared it to my nexus one w/seidocase and it is only slightly larger... like less than a .25" larger in width and length
-weight is great. very comparable to n1 w/case
-sense 2.0 looked pretty slick.
-very fast... zero lag.
-my only stickler was the screen. i could see the "grid" dots on the display unit. is this typical of slcd?

Love it already and havent had it 5 hours yet, beats my old htc surround hands down.

This kicks the captivates ass all around, even unrooted with stock rom. Soooo glad I pulled the trigger... nice to have a decent exchange email client as part of the basic package (sorry touchdown, but the integration is a big plus... I hated the separate address books).

The more I use my phone the more I realize everything works and works well.
Have installed pretty much everything there is and it plays or runs them without a hiccup.
Obviously the only apps it will not run are the ones that require root. My plan is to do this very soon so I can take advantage of those as well.
Every single game I've installed is smooth with no lag.
Emulators work with zero issues, my plan is to try the the psx one next.
You can not measure the battery life right away, it has to get used to a few charges first. See the Desire HD forums and they will say the same.
I've made some calls and can say that it sounds great, I've tried both the loudspeaker and the ear speaker and both sound fine to me.
Obviously the small speaker will not be that loud especially at first. Still planning to use DSP Manager to see if it fixes it.
I've still to try out the gps while moving in the vehicle as well.
Build quality is very satisfying and is what's expected from HTC.
Where I had trouble getting 3G I am now getting a constant H+ according to the phone.
What else can I say I made an excellent choice and with the Sideload Wonder Machine, root, radio and custom ROMs there's room to make this phone even better with those options.
Sent from my illmatic Inspire 4G / Desire HD

Strange Text messages

This is tough to explain...
At random points a friend of mine tells me that I am sending stange text messages that look like this:
"ME:<Subject: > - What game?"
According to what I see in my text history, It is being sent from my phone. Now out of the 20 or so people I have active text sessions with, she is the only one.
I've been through various ROM's and have had this problem follow. Logic tells me its her phone based on the facts but I can't prove it. I've done a Google search and that returned nothing. Searched around the XDA site and didn't turn up anything.
Has anyone experienced anything the same or similar?

Buchez said:
This is tough to explain...
At random points a friend of mine tells me that I am sending stange text messages that look like this:
"ME:<Subject: > - What game?"
According to (1.)what I see in my text history, It is being sent from my phone. Now out of the 20 or so people I have active text sessions with, she is the only one.
I've been through various ROM's and (2.) have had this problem follow.
Logic tells me its her phone based on the facts but I can't prove it. I've done a Google search and that returned nothing. Searched around the XDA site and didn't turn up anything.
Has anyone experienced anything the same or similar?
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Now excuse me if I am not following you, but
First you say : 1
And then you say : 2
How does something you can see in your phones text log become her phones problem?
It is your phone and it is prolly an app you install since it follows you, or a friend in your midst as they follow you too.

tweaked said:
Now excuse me if I am not following you, but
First you say : 1
And then you say : 2
How does something you can see in your phones text log become her phones problem?
It is your phone and it is prolly an app you install since it follows you, or a friend in your midst as they follow you too.
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Yea I know, But I've been running with only stock apps for the past 24 hours and it happened again last night. I'm puzzled. Out of all the people I text it just goes to her phone.
Might have to keep my eyes out for the friend in the midst

If its showing as sent from your phone in your phone, then logic would dictate that your phone is the source of this issue. When switching roms, did u do a full wipe before reflashing? Are u sure u are not restoring any apps or configurations whether if its synced with Google or titanium backup? Perhaps u have apps stored on your sdcard? Just a few things to think about.
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Maybe your excessive drinking is the cause "drunk texting." Admit it, it's okay, we've all done it. Lol
Sorry, can't say that I have ever experienced that, maybe a friend or flatmate is joshing with you.
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Lol. This is also a plausible explaination Haha.
Nochips4me said:
Maybe your excessive drinking is the cause "drunk texting." Admit it, it's okay, we've all done it. Lol
Sorry, can't say that I have ever experienced that, maybe a friend or flatmate is joshing with you.
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What game?

Sorry I meant to say was it looks like you're the problem

Do you sync htc sense? I've had the same thing happen and it only happened after flashing a rom and logging into htc sense. Not sure how or why but it would re send a few texts.
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cant be any worse then me talking to someone. and hearing someone else cross talk into my phone lol, but they cant hear me

Emergency Calls

Okay I've been viewing and using the forums for a while, but never had a reason to join until now. I've had my HTC one X for over a month and in that time frame I've managed to accidentally call 911 over 8 times (all inside my jean pocket, even 3 times in 1 day). Is there any mod to disable emergency call or remove the emergency contact of 911 from the list when its locked and the button is pushed inside my pocket? I've searched everywhere and can't find a fix. I've even edited my build.prop to read "ro.ril.oem.ecclist=123" instead of "=911". I know there has to be a way to fix this issue but I haven't been able to find it.
I was going to post in the development section but because I just joined I'm unable to post in that thread.
FYI: I"m rooted, unlocked bootloader, CWM, and running CleanRom 3.0.

Please somebody!
Anyone? I really need help on this one, I'm afraid of getting into some serious trouble if I can't fix this issue. Any ideas are greatly appreciated.

Ohh I get it, you use a security lock.
Do not use a security lock?
With the standard lock screen(security lock set to none) there is no emergency dial button.
Other thought though is to buy a flip cover so when the phone is in your pocket the entire screen will be blocked by the cover?
You can buy them online for just a few dollars.

How do you do this? Even with the emergency dial button, it asks you to input the number.

twistedddx said:
Ohh I get it, you use a security lock.
Do not use a security lock?
With the standard lock screen(security lock set to none) there is no emergency dial button.
Other thought though is to buy a flip cover so when the phone is in your pocket the entire screen will be blocked by the cover?
You can buy them online for just a few dollars.
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Those are both good suggestions, but I'm kind of a security nut, and I'd hate to cover up this gorgeous phone. I took my case back because I hated covering it up, but maybe I can find something nice on Amazon. Thank you for the reply.

KitF said:
How do you do this? Even with the emergency dial button, it asks you to input the number.
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There's my issue, it brings you to a dialpad but it also has 911 as an emergency contact at the top of the screen. Even if my pocket dials an insane string of numbers, if it ever touches that top contact or I touch it as I'm pulling it out because it's vibrating and I'm at work, it automatically dials 911. I just thought there was a way to remove that contact.

Just to be complete, also consider a pouch. That way you can just slide it in and out as required. Better suited to car mounts and keeping the phone slim

You have to compromise somewhere...Either keep dialing 911 and eventually get your number blacklisted by them or get in trouble OR stop using the security lock screen. Simple as that, seeing that you don't want to cover the screen with anything.

blaine.hale said:
You have to compromise somewhere...Either keep dialing 911 and eventually get your number blacklisted by them or get in trouble OR stop using the security lock screen. Simple as that, seeing that you don't want to cover the screen with anything.
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You've overlooked option #3: Learn how to develop for android, and make my own mod to solve my issue. Anything is possible and I think it's my only option left, If anyone knows any of the specific files, folders, or APK's that may be in question please let me know. Other than that I'm off on a wild goose chase that I hope I'm able win. Wish me luck!

jo3holl4nd said:
You've overlooked option #3: Learn how to develop for android, and make my own mod to solve my issue. Anything is possible and I think it's my only option left, If anyone knows any of the specific files, folders, or APK's that may be in question please let me know. Other than that I'm off on a wild goose chase that I hope I'm able win. Wish me luck!
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That's such a refreshing response my man, more power to you
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With.mine using a pin.lock, you have to.unlock the normal screen, then the emergency dial pops up. Which way do you have you phone in your pocket, like screen in or out?
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kleeman7 said:
With.mine using a pin.lock, you have to.unlock the normal screen, then the emergency dial pops up. Which way do you have you phone in your pocket, like screen in or out?
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Screen towards my thigh, maybe my jeans are too tight. lol

Well my update for the night (if anyone is interested) is I browsed through the .apk's in cleanrom 3.0 and unzipped 5 of them that had relevant names: DialerLauncher, HTCDialer+, Idlescreenbase, Phone, and Phonesky. Opened up the .dex files in those with notepad just to take a peek at what's readable. found a lot of interesting things in Phone and Dialers. Just went into adb and dexdumped those to read through them all without all the formatting issues in notepad. I'm so new to all this that I have no idea if I'm on the right path or not, but it seems like solid progress to me. Gotta hit the hay though it's 2am, I'll try more tomorrow. Take care everyone and feel free to leave me any suggestions (or encouragement at this point)!

Warning!
I don't recommend dexdumping phone or phonesky! I sure hope my answer isn't in there it's MASSSIVE! Also thank you Corythug for the encouragement lol

I have found two things for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562477
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688407
The file you would have to.edit would be android.policy.jar
Those two.post should help one is specific to HTC lockscreen with a for.sure fix.
Good luck.
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jo3holl4nd said:
Screen towards my thigh, maybe my jeans are too tight. lol
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Well there's your problem! Try putting the phone in your pocket screen out. The heat from your thigh is what is dialing the numbers.
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kleeman7 said:
I have found two things for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562477
And
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688407
The file you would have to.edit would be android.policy.jar
Those two.post should help one is specific to HTC lockscreen with a for.sure fix.
Good luck.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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Lol obviously you have the same issue I have of hitting period instead of space on the keyboard. Come from Samsung phones?

timmillah said:
Lol obviously you have the same issue I have of hitting period instead of space on the keyboard. Come from Samsung phones?
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I hit period like no other on this phone, lol.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Well there's your problem! Try putting the phone in your pocket screen out. The heat from your thigh is what is dialing the numbers.
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I considered this but because other screens have cracked and died from sharp table edges with the screen facing out I prefer not to store my phones screen out.

Receiving MMS's that are extremely small

Whenever someone sends me a photo messages, it comes out extremely small, like 20x20 pixels... What's going on?
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I get this this sometimes too. The times I get it is when someone with an iPhone takes a screenshot with the Power/Home combo. Pic always looks tiny. I'm running CleanROM 4.5 if that matters.

Does the same on stock. Seems to be like the post above and only happens from iPhones.
There is no such thing as a greener grass.......,......

seems to only happen when i get screenshots from iphones as well, sometimes they come thru fine and sometimes they dont

Weird! Never pinned it down but this has been exactly my experience as well.
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dmyhcvg said:
First of all, a question came in my mind after seen this coffee table. Question is, why this coffee table is looking like broken ? I am waiting for your valuable response.
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dafuq!!! off topic much.
but then reading crap like this
"Lighting for living Room
I have read a blog that as anyone would often say properly decorated living room is having a cozy and expensive furniture but aside from that lighting it would make the room perfect. And as a bit meticulous when it comes to home decorating, I believe that lighting does really a big factor so anybody could help me where I could find brilliant lighting for my living room.
do hedgei's take to a ball?
I adopted a 5 month old African Pygmy 3 weeks ago. She lets me pick her up without balling up and I give her a treat, but after that she just wants to get back into her igloo. I bought a large exercise ball for her to go anywhere she wants without getting into trouble, but she just goes in circles inside the ball.
Will she ever get used to the ball and learn how to use it? I am thinking that she wasn't handled very much in her young life, as she just wants to hide. Am I expecting to much too soon?
Thank you. "
I hope the mods wake up early and handle you.

I'm having the same issue. In my case it happens when my girlfriend sends me a screen shot from her GS3 and the same thing happens with my friend when he sends me screen shots from his HOX. We are all on AT&T with their respective branded devices. Not that I think it matters what carrier branded devices the screen shots are coming from.
From my experience with this issue, it seems that it only happens with someone sends me a screen shot. It's very random as well.
Could it be possible that screen shots are saved as an incompatible file type? If they are compatible, could it be a proxy setting?
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For me, png files come in tiny and the rest are fine.
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Same problem here. Very frustrating. Is this something we're just going to have to deal with?

Good posts

Vendetta-NY said:
For me, png files come in tiny and the rest are fine.
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I think we're on to something here. Perhaps there's a piece of code somewhere that tricks the phone into thinking it needs to resize .png files to a specific size, but has an error that causes it to show up as 20x20 pixels.
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