What are the current known issues with AOKP and AOSP ROMs? Basically, What I mean is, all of the ROM's say they have no bugs but there are always issues with AOSP and AOKP. Things like MMS not working or other issues.
Can anyone give me some idea of what the current issues are to help decide whether to switch from TW to AOSP or AOKP?
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What are the current known issues with AOKP and AOSP ROMs? Basically, What I mean is, all of the ROM's say they have no bugs but there are always issues with AOSP and AOKP. Things like MMS not working or other issues.
Can anyone give me some idea of what the current issues are to help decide whether to switch from TW to AOSP or AOKP?
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Most roms have no bugs, or people report such a wide range of bugs that might or might not be rom related. It's hard to pinpoint sometimes if people are reporting a real bug or not.
You're best off testing a rom you want and seeing for yourself if it works for you, everyone is going to have a different experience trying out different roms. In general, touchwiz roms are going to be much more stable, AOSP and AOKP are going to have more stability issues and more bugs that tend to come out. But again, everyone has different experiences so you should try each one for yourself rather than asking these types of questions.
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ok thanks for the advice but thats not what I was asking. I realize that each ROM has its own issues on each persons individual phone.
The question I was asking is, what are the known issues across ALL AOSP or AOKP ROMs? Meaning, issues since they all come from the same tree. In the past there has been MMS issues on ALL AOSP ROM's. What, if any, are the issues with the current AOSP ROMs?
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ok thanks for the advice but thats not what I was asking. I realize that each ROM has its own issues on each persons individual phone.
The question I was asking is, what are the known issues across ALL AOSP or AOKP ROMs? Meaning, issues since they all come from the same tree. In the past there has been MMS issues on ALL AOSP ROM's. What, if any, are the issues with the current AOSP ROMs?
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Ya I don't know that much detail about them, hopefully you get a more direct answer.
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I can say Bluetooth issues (streaming or even toggling it off in Settings) are an AOSP wide issue based on other users' posts. Depending on how you feel about signal reception, it may or may not be worse in your area if you live in poor signal strength areas. I live in an area where my reception averages about -110 dBm. So reception is equally poor on both TW and AOSP for me but I may drop calls slightly more frequently on AOSP. My reception is great everywhere that I have stronger signal though. Lastly, the camera might be another point of emphasis but idk first hand cuz I don't take pics often. I dislike the AOSP camera UI and prefer the options of the TW camera.
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First off I apologize if there is another thread about this but all I found when searching was a general "best rom", and one related to battery life.
Personally I would like to know opinions on best rom for connectivity only. I live in a strong 4G area but whenever I am in my basement I get spotty connectivity, drop calls and such. I have been on the CM10 nightlies crack flashing since the boot-loader was unlocked. I love CM10 just wondering for basic call quality, does someone have a different rom preference for call quality?
Again mods I apologize if this is out there... but i couldn't find one for call quality. I realize this all depends on the baseband and such which Samsung is infamous for theirs. I just feel like even a slight better signal would make a big difference for me considering generally it's good connection.
Also my office is in my basement and I make a lot of calls and I'd prefer to keep it that way if possible.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
I'd actually like to know this as well. I recently switched from using an iphone to a Samsung Galaxy S3 and the difference with this phone is there are so many different roms available, I don't know which one is the best whereas with the iphone there is usually 1 main jailbreak and everything else is provided by cydia.
Like you said, this mainly is based on the radio and not on the Rom, but i agree there could be some minor differences. Your best bet would be to try a couple out and see how they work in your office. I personally am running jellywiz and my signal is rock sold and i work in low signal areas a lot.
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I'd actually like to know this as well. I recently switched from using an iphone to a Samsung Galaxy S3 and the difference with this phone is there are so many different roms available, I don't know which one is the best whereas with the iphone there is usually 1 main jailbreak and everything else is provided by cydia.
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If you search the forum there is actually a main thread for best rom overall which may help you more since it doesn't seem your only concern is call quality. Sorry I don't have the thread name but I think if you do a forum search for "best rom" you should be able to find that thread.
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Like you said, this mainly is based on the radio and not on the Rom, but i agree there could be some minor differences. Your best bet would be to try a couple out and see how they work in your office. I personally am running jellywiz and my signal is rock sold and i work in low signal areas a lot.
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I actually planned on doing that and testing them out on my own, I was just hoping someone may have some tips on one they have used in areas such as a basement or a place they know they haven't always gotten good service but have found a rom that works great for them as far as call quality. Such as your example of jellywiz, I will certainly give that a try and see if I can hold a higher consistency for call quality. Thanks for your input!
There are definetly differences between ROMs relative to battery life... different versions of the same ROM can be quite different.
I've been using Jellywiz as my DD and it's been great. I really liked RLS4. I've updated to RLS5 this morning but my battery life has declined greatly. I've also gotten one reboot. I'm sure the dev will have it fixed in the next release (the Devs on the Jellywiz project are top notch).
I also liked Synergy quite a lot... It's not Jelly Bean, but the battery life was great and very stable!
The best thing you can do is try several different ones... Let the ROM settle for a good day or two before coming to any conclusions...
Good luck...
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First off I apologize if there is another thread about this but all I found when searching was a general "best rom", and one related to battery life.
Personally I would like to know opinions on best rom for connectivity only. I live in a strong 4G area but whenever I am in my basement I get spotty connectivity, drop calls and such. I have been on the CM10 nightlies crack flashing since the boot-loader was unlocked. I love CM10 just wondering for basic call quality, does someone have a different rom preference for call quality?
Again mods I apologize if this is out there... but i couldn't find one for call quality. I realize this all depends on the baseband and such which Samsung is infamous for theirs. I just feel like even a slight better signal would make a big difference for me considering generally it's good connection.
Also my office is in my basement and I make a lot of calls and I'd prefer to keep it that way if possible.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Without getting too granular, stock based roms have the best reception. Rom's where the RIL has had to be tweaked, such as CM, MIUI, JellyBean ports, and cross carrier ports are more likely to have radio issues.
Then, there are different radios you could flash. In my experience with many devices, changing radios has never had much of an impact on radio reception. Different radio versions generally fix bugs, and things like 3g/4g switching. For instance the latest stock radio for our device (VRLG7) fixes the "no SIM" bug. I am using that and it has worked great for me.
Generally though, I don't think actual reception (mostly dependent on hardware) should vary too much. Usually it's reliability that can vary. "Bars" aren't always an accurate indicator of reception either, signal strength in dBm is.
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There are definetly differences between ROMs relative to battery life... different versions of the same ROM can be quite different.
I've been using Jellywiz as my DD and it's been great. I really liked RLS4. I've updated to RLS5 this morning but my battery life has declined greatly. I've also gotten one reboot. I'm sure the dev will have it fixed in the next release (the Devs on the Jellywiz project are top notch).
I also liked Synergy quite a lot... It's not Jelly Bean, but the battery life was great and very stable!
The best thing you can do is try several different ones... Let the ROM settle for a good day or two before coming to any conclusions...
Good luck...
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Sorry... I got lost in an unrelated thought (battery life)....
The service side appears to be pretty sold from the ROMs that I've personally tried. Not sure you'll find a big difference here in real world performance.
CodefireX is getting me the best service I've ever had. Several other people in the thread seem to be experiencing the same thing.
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Without getting too granular, stock based roms have the best reception. Rom's where the RIL has had to be tweaked, such as CM, MIUI, JellyBean ports, and cross carrier ports are more likely to have radio issues.
Then, there are different radios you could flash. In my experience with many devices, changing radios has never had much of an impact on radio reception. Different radio versions generally fix bugs, and things like 3g/4g switching. For instance the latest stock radio for our device (VRLG7) fixes the "no SIM" bug. I am using that and it has worked great for me.
Generally though, I don't think actual reception (mostly dependent on hardware) should vary too much. Usually it's reliability that can vary. "Bars" aren't always an accurate indicator of reception either, signal strength in dBm is.
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I have not seen the 4G indicator since flashing a week or more ago. I have tried aokp, cm10, and root66.
Not sure what to do. The phone works fine otherwise. All these are great but I would never have gone this route if I had any thought that wireless capabilities would be reduced. Any ideas on how to return to 4G would be greatly appreciated.
Out of all the 4.1 roms out there, JellyWiz's wifi/4G/3g is the most solid one. Very stable and good enough to be a DD.
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There seems to be quite a few jelly bean roms right now, and without an official leak, I am sure each one has its ups and downs at this point.
I am coming from synergyrom, and want to give JB a try. Since theres is still "beta" I am not sure I wanna try that right away.
Which is the most stable at this point??
Definitely liquid smooth...I've tried others and always revert back to touch wiz stock based roms, and i despise touch wiz...liquid smooth jb is the best I've flashed
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liquid smooth is awesome for aosp JB, but touchwiz there's not much thats super stable imo
thanks for the input so far!
Please note if there are known issues, that might help make decisions too.
Thanks all!!
I like codename. Super smooth, frickin' fast and barely believable battery life! Some apps don't stream audio over bluetooth and you have to enable a couple of Developer options to address screen flickering, but those are truthfully very minor annoyances you'll be happy to overlook when you get a taste of that ROM.
Seriously, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900479
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I can respect that. Haven't tried liquid as the CNA ROM got posted around the time I got this phone. I've heard the 160 character error msg is a bit of a red herring, that the msgs actually do get sent but just say they didn't. Was that your experience or did they actually not get sent?
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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Well said.
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bc760 said:
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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There is a fix for this now but just has not made it's way into all AOSP roms yet. There are in most of the newer AOKP builds right now.
The biggest issue still is the low volume when recording video's. This is an issue in all AOSP roms and has not been fixed yet. I know I also read a lot about speakerphone and in call volume problems but not sure to much about the actual issue.
This is why I am still sticking to an ICS TW Rom. I like knowing everything on my device just works.
The only major thing that keeps from moving to CM10, or Liquid Smooth is the lack of USB Audio. I leave my phone on my dock at work and stream Pandora through the dock's usb audio. I've been using SynergyROM for awhile now, and will probably stick with it until the USB Audio issue is fixed.
AOKP's new build has been great for me. No real issues to report yet...been on it since 3 came out a week or so ago?
i haven't been too impressed jb at all tbh.
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
What are the general downsides with using these JB roms weither it be TouchWiz or AOSP. I'm going to take the jump soon but whats fixed or unfixable? I hear some people say screen flicker and no 3G etc.
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Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
I would hold out a few more weeks for a touchwiz based rom - I tried Incubus' and got a number of random reboots. Cleanrom 2.5 has been working great!
Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
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Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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link to CM10 data fix?
I've been wanting to give an aosp based Rom a try onthis phone. My main concern is stability and battery life. I know battery life is more of a kernel issue so I will address that later on. I've noticed some roms in original developement don't even specify which android version there based on, but which is currently most stable and 4.2? I need lte calls/sms/mms and camera to be working.
I'm basically looking for what has the LEAST issues. Has any developers gotten past the screen tearing yet?
And I know there are probably 100 of these threads, but none are current
the official cm10.1 by h8rift will usually be the most stable, as a lot of the other ones are based on that (i think). you should basically look for the most recently updated one. that'll have the newest features and latest bugfixes.
you can't go wrong with a bpear ROM, that guy is awesome and has released some of my favorite ROMs for this phone. link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212825
he always updates them quickly and squashes all major bugs. that one is new so it may have some bugs, but i'm sure they won't be there for long. then once he fixes them, you won't have to delete everything and clean wipe and all that, you'll just have to flash over it with the new one.
bugs vary from phone to phone, so the only real way to figure out what you like is to flash them and check
they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.
Running liquidsmooth Stable and its great. Using it as a daily driver.
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they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.
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Running official 10.1 nightly with vz oc linaro kernel and disable HW overlays on I get ZERO tearing. I put it at standard clock speeds to and its great and very stable. Only time it freezes is every once in a great while after a phone call. Other than that I'm extremely happy.
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I'm running the Bpear CarbonRom 1.6 source build, underclocked to 1134mhz and still running smooth and stable.
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the most stable tend to be the ones that are more popular/bigger like CM 10.1, AOKP, etc.. at least in my experience. Though I personally love jellybam. I highly recommend it especially if you're a person who loves great audio. Though the only kernel that would work it is Rohan's beta as far as I know
There is no "most stable" ROM. Everyone uses their phone differently, and your mileage can and will vary. Same thing with battery life (and probably has as much, if not more to do with other factors, such as your geographic location and radio).
Its easy to look through the ROM threads to see what specific issues people have, known bugs, etc. Aside from that, just pick some that look like they fill your needs/preferences and try them out.
Since every device handles software a little differently, you need to try it out for yourself and see if you like it. Thats the beauty of XDA, you get to try it out yourself and see if YOU like it.
So since everyone has different options, Im going to close this before it becomes a BEST ROM THREAD... and we dont allow those.
I've tried almost every ROM on here. KK ROM's and JB ROM's...for some reason...VIPER XL always has issues for me. No idea why as it's a great ROM...I get dropped calls, SIM disappears and I have to reboot and a few programs FC all the time. Completely clean install...wiped entirely...tried different kernels, stock, OV and UV...everything. Just isn't stable for me.
Anyway - I love KK ROM's because of the battery life but I dislike the any non-sense camera. Sundream's MIUI ROM's were great but slightly outdated and sometimes had Google Voice issues.
Not complaining at all! I love all these ROM's and respect the dev's hard work!
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I've tried almost every ROM on here. KK ROM's and JB ROM's...for some reason...VIPER XL always has issues for me. No idea why as it's a great ROM...I get dropped calls, SIM disappears and I have to reboot and a few programs FC all the time. Completely clean install...wiped entirely...tried different kernels, stock, OV and UV...everything. Just isn't stable for me.
Anyway - I love KK ROM's because of the battery life but I dislike the any non-sense camera. Sundream's MIUI ROM's were great but slightly outdated and sometimes had Google Voice issues.
Not complaining at all! I love all these ROM's and respect the dev's hard work!
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My two cents:
I've found the "best" Sense-based ROM for a camera is Turge's t-mobile-based ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423735).
I also had trouble with ViperXL with random reboots and Airplane mode being enabled during calls. I may have just not used the right kernel.
In my opinion, KK ROMs don't really add much functionality to justify their installation. I always find myself going back to Turge's ROM for stability and Sense, which I really like.
Turge's ROM, being based on T-Mobile, enables hotspots, which is great.
Sense works, the camera works - everything just works; right out of the box.
I've added XPosed modules (e.g., Sense 5 toolbox) that help add some flexibility like swiping down to show notifications.
I also installed a camera that has both panorama and photo sphere (Gallery3d - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45923009).
But beyond that, no added mods.
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I've tried almost every ROM on here.
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If you've tried every ROM, why do you need us to spoonfeed you our recommendations?
"Best ROM" questions are frowned upon on XDA. The question is entirely pointless, as everyone uses their phone a bit differently, and what works "best" for one person might not for another. You might as well be asking what our favorite color is: What I answer really doesn't apply to you or anyone else.
Also, the question is an insult to the developers. Calling one "best" implies that others are somehow inferior, which is unfair to the devs that work so hard to bring us ROMs for free. Such discussions eventually just devolve into a popularity contest.
redpoint73 said:
If you've tried every ROM, why do you need us to spoonfeed you our recommendations?
"Best ROM" questions are frowned upon on XDA. The question is entirely pointless, as everyone uses their phone a bit differently, and what works "best" for one person might not for another. You might as well be asking what our favorite color is: What I answer really doesn't apply to you or anyone else.
Also, the question is an insult to the developers. Calling one "best" implies that others are somehow inferior, which is unfair to the devs that work so hard to bring us ROMs for free. Such discussions eventually just devolve into a popularity contest.
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Basically this.
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I have an unlocked BL S3. It looks like we aren't going to get an unlocked custom TW ROM to replace the stock one I am running now... at least, I haven't seen much progress recently on this.
I know I can jump to 4.3 or higher with AOSP or CM or other non-TW variants... but I often hear that the TW ROMS simply run more reliably and have better signal, has better camera performance, etc. So, my question is - is this true? Is there a ROM out there that's 4.3 or higher that doesn't "give up" some of the reliability or functionality of TW?
Basically, what do I lose if I go to an AOSP ROM (CM or other) regarding reliability, signal strength, camera, etc...?
schwinn8 said:
I have an unlocked BL S3. It looks like we aren't going to get an unlocked custom TW ROM to replace the stock one I am running now... at least, I haven't seen much progress recently on this.
I know I can jump to 4.3 or higher with AOSP or CM or other non-TW variants... but I often hear that the TW ROMS simply run more reliably and have better signal, has better camera performance, etc. So, my question is - is this true? Is there a ROM out there that's 4.3 or higher that doesn't "give up" some of the reliability or functionality of TW?
Basically, what do I lose if I go to an AOSP ROM (CM or other) regarding reliability, signal strength, camera, etc...?
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Pretty much everything you stated. When you use AOSP, you accept that there may be issues with bluetooth, speakerphone, camera quality, and cell reception. That's just the way AOSP has been. If you live in a strong signal area, signal strength will not be an issue. Bluetooth, call quality, camera, and speakerphone are all debatable things you may have to accept as having less than what you expected quality.
That's what I figured. So, this is all driven by the kernel, correct? Can I simply run a TW kernel on an AOSP ROM to alleviate these issues, or will they persist? I assume they persist... otherwise we wouldn't have this issue.
What concerns me is that I always look at the opening post for ROMs, and they usually say there are no issues with the ROM. So, other than reading through hundreds of posts and figuring out what problems are "real" and are not, is there a way to identify what doesn't work "as well" in these ROMs? That always seems to be my biggest issue with ROMming (I used to do it with my old phone, but haven't yet with my S3).
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That's what I figured. So, this is all driven by the kernel, correct? Can I simply run a TW kernel on an AOSP ROM to alleviate these issues, or will they persist? I assume they persist... otherwise we wouldn't have this issue.
What concerns me is that I always look at the opening post for ROMs, and they usually say there are no issues with the ROM. So, other than reading through hundreds of posts and figuring out what problems are "real" and are not, is there a way to identify what doesn't work "as well" in these ROMs? That always seems to be my biggest issue with ROMming (I used to do it with my old phone, but haven't yet with my S3).
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You can't run a touchwiz kernel on an AOSP rom. Or vice versa.
Thing is, especially with aosp, I'd say the majority of bugs reported tend to be caused by user error. These aren't actual bugs, but people simply not following directions or fixing their own problems before reporting it. This makes bugs fairly hard to track because it's hard to tell what's real and what's not real. It's a common problem with aosp, you simply have to try for yourself and see if the problems are a problem for you.
Some roms run fantastic for some people, and run horrible for others. With aosp you have to accept the fact that it's not going to be as stable as touchwiz. However, sometimes you can get really close to touchwiz reliability.
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