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I just find it stupid that the phone would show a notification for USB connection when I connect it to a charger.
Yes, it can tell the difference. Check in OS monitor, it knows whether you are getting power from USB, or from AC.
My phone thinks my car is a computer. As far as I know, it goes by the current being received -- 500 mA from a computer, 700 mA from the stock wall charger.
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I don't think it depends on the current.
With my factory charger, if I insert the charger in and kinda pull out one side of it, it will think it's a computer and I can "mount" my sd card. so it might be a certain way the connectors touch inside
saint168 said:
I just find it stupid that the phone would show a notification for USB connection when I connect it to a charger.
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It depends on the charger, but yes, the phone for the most part can tell the difference. It has to do with the voltage that is put out.
Ikonomi said:
My phone thinks my car is a computer. As far as I know, it goes by the current being received -- 500 mA from a computer, 700 mA from the stock wall charger.
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It has nothing to do with amperage (unless it is under 500) and everything to so with charging source. Wall chargers basically short the data wires to indicate AC charger and car chargers do not.
There is a thread in accessories forum discussing this and mods to get full charging out of car chargers. I did it by modding an extra cable. My car charger puts out 1 amp but the phone never draws more then ~ 750 mah.
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Dungeon47 said:
Yes, it can tell the difference. Check in OS monitor, it knows whether you are getting power from USB, or from AC.
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Every time I read one of your posts, in my head is McGyver's voice. Hearing him narrate the xda forums is hilarious.
From a phone
The phone can take up to 1000mA of charging current. But only if it detects it is on one of its supported AC chargers. Draw more than 500mA on a PC USB port may damage it. So, there is special wiring needs to be done for the data PINs on the USB port. That's why for generic car charger and wall chargers, it can't only assume it is PC USB port and charges at a slower pace (500mA). You will need the Samsung AC or Car charger to charge at higher current. I managed to mod one of car charger to be recognized as AC charger (no USB prompt). And you really need it because if you're using the phone as GPS navigation device, 500mA won't be able to sustain it (battery will keep be drained). You need 700ma or more.
It also depends if you have your USB connection set to a default if you will get that pop up when you connect it to any other than an AC charger.
Ikonomi said:
My phone thinks my car is a computer. As far as I know, it goes by the current being received -- 500 mA from a computer, 700 mA from the stock wall charger.
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Yes it does and is sensitive. I have been using a BT headphone charger and I would be perplexed that my phone showed 100% but pull the plug and its at 87% every morning AFTER recalibrating the battery.. LOL
Decided to use the Samsung Charger and no such issues. Needs those extra Milliamps.....
Hey all,
I often charged my g1 through a USB cable from my computer (rather than from the wall). When I do this for the g2x, it doesn't seem to charge. It either retains it's charge, slowly discharges (more slowly than if it wasn't plugged in), or if I am using an intensive app (e.g. pocket legends) it will keep discharging quickly. Is this normal or is this just me/my phone?
I am using the cable that came with the phone that I also use to charge through the wall (so not a cable issue).
Thx
It charges fine through my computer but keep in mind it will be a slower charge on any device. Maybe it's more slow than it should be on yours.
davem666 said:
Hey all,
I often charged my g1 through a USB cable from my computer (rather than from the wall). When I do this for the g2x, it doesn't seem to charge. It either retains it's charge, slowly discharges (more slowly than if it wasn't plugged in), or if I am using an intensive app (e.g. pocket legends) it will keep discharging quickly. Is this normal or is this just me/my phone?
I am using the cable that came with the phone that I also use to charge through the wall (so not a cable issue).
Thx
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Did you try using other USB ports on your computer?
I've tried multiple ports and multiple computers (not multiple cables cause I only have 1, but the cable does charge through the wall adapter). I've left it plugged in to the computer for the past 2 hours with minimal use (basically just checking battery monitor occasionally) and I am losing ~2% charge an hour (I'll post a screen-cap after a few more hours of "charging").
mine charges.. very slow.
You should never charge your phone from a computer usb cable. There isn't enough amps to charge your phone while it is on and running. If you play games or listen to music while connected and charging from your computer's usb cable you will still run down the battery. The charger that came with the LG G2x is 1Amp or 1000MA! My previous Samsung Galaxy was around 700MA. Best way to charge your phone is to turn it off while it is plugged to the AC adaptor and use a high amp output charger like the stock charger. If you use generic ones with lower amp output like 500Ma, it will take longer.
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You should never charge your phone from a computer usb cable. There isn't enough amps to charge your phone while it is on and running. If you play games or listen to music while connected and charging from your computer's usb cable you will still run down the battery. The charger that came with the LG G2x is 1Amp or 1000MA! My previous Samsung Galaxy was around 700MA. Best way to charge your phone is to turn it off while it is plugged to the AC adaptor and use a high amp output charger like the stock charger. If you use generic ones with lower amp output like 500Ma, it will take longer.
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The chargers for the gs and g2x both have the same amps. And Hz.
Where did you find that info?
Sometimes I still use my gs charger on myg2x. Both charge in the same amount of time.
But if it is true ill stop that right now.
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I wanted to know if it is possible to charge the ASUS transformer using a computer?
Is there any hack for it?
umasood said:
I wanted to know if it is possible to charge the ASUS transformer using a computer?
Is there any hack for it?
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IIRC it will charge if the transformer is turned off but very slowly
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When I was driving the other day with it connected to the USB charger in the car (same as PC USB) and it got 4% in about an hour.
isnt this the biggest DOWN SIDE of TF.
Like this is such a basic feature these days that you should be able to charge your android device using PC usb/ charger etc.
I thought there would be some hacks for this. or is this a hardware specific lacking?
The USB plug on the Sync/Charge cable of the Transformer is a USB 3.0 plug. It uses the extra pins of the USB 3.0 for the electricity to charge.
umasood said:
isnt this the biggest DOWN SIDE of TF.
Like this is such a basic feature these days that you should be able to charge your android device using PC usb/ charger etc.
I thought there would be some hacks for this. or is this a hardware specific lacking?
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I don't think this issue is specific to the Transformer. I seem to recall that the iPad comes with a high-current charger, and charges slowly if done via a computer. I think the issue is that the battery is much larger than any smartphone battery, and the USB port spec was created to power things like mice and USB memory sticks, and provides a low current. This way it also won't overload the host computer's power supply and cause stability issues on the computer.
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The USB plug on the Sync/Charge cable of the Transformer is a USB 3.0 plug. It uses the extra pins of the USB 3.0 for the electricity to charge.
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the extra wires in USB 3.0 cables are for higher speed transfers the voltage is still 5.0V the TF uses one of the wires to signal the power supply to provide 15V vs 5 V. The connector is not a true USB 3.0 If you want to charge mobile ,just connect the 12VDC from your vehicle to pins 1 and 4.
After reading this i put my transformer in the USB 3 socket and hey presto... trickle charge enabled! It doesnt say that its dojing it but mine went up from 95 - 96% in the 10 mins i had it pluged in (whilst on it)
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After reading this i put my transformer in the USB 3 socket and hey presto... trickle charge enabled! It doesnt say that its dojing it but mine went up from 95 - 96% in the 10 mins i had it pluged in (whilst on it)
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Awesome, it would only take like 16h to charge it from empty to full then! ... compared to ~1.5-2h depending on use with the 15v charger.
But if you want to charge it from the PC, just hook it up to the 12v rail on the PSU (build a molex to usb adapter or similar)
Edit: what would be interesting though, is if you could charge and sync at the same time by connecting the data cables to a usb port, but keep the power cables hooked to the 12v rail. Or maybe the TF shuts down all sync stuff when its charging...
Just a quick update... After 6 hours if gone up to a whapping...... 76%
I guess it was just playing trick on me!!!! sorry to get peoples hopes up.
Go look at USB3.0 specs. You do not have the current and Voltage necessary to do anything more than a slow trickle charge. 3.0 os basically 2.0 with an extra pair of wires for faster data transfer not higher voltage. The connector on the TF charger is not wired to USB3.0 standards.
The AC adapter reconfigures itself when it recognizes the asus tablet and it gives 12v instead of 5volts. Just tried now and it's working.
Hi all.
Could the charger of desire work normally(when check in about phone it must be show AC not USB) for the HTC desire HD and Inspire 4g.
Thanks
If it shows AC that means you are charging through a power outlet and when it's charging by USB you are charging it through a USB cable connected to a computer
Charging through AC is faster then USB
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Why does USB from PC charges slower than the one from the socket?
emptyto said:
Why does USB from PC charges slower than the one from the socket?
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PC has only 500mA current output, your wall charger has 1A output
greater current faster charging-but this does not mean that battery has not its max. charging current!
higher charging current can easily damage your battery and cell phone.
I charge my phone with Xperia charger, with Kindle charger, with Nokia charger and many more. So far I have no problem with my battery. As long as on the end of the cable you have “micro-b usb” and stable (troublefree) electric transformator to supply that cable you can charge your battery. The time to charge may be different but the result is the same.
bravebg said:
I charge my phone with Xperia charger, with Kindle charger, with Nokia charger and many more. So far I have no problem with my battery. As long as on the end of the cable you have “micro-b usb” and stable (troublefree) electric transformator to supply that cable you can charge your battery. The time to charge may be different but the result is the same.
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+1 you only have to use a micro usb!
The charger should work with any phone other than iPhones
Quiglesigles said:
The charger should work with any phone other than iPhones
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Correct!
As long as it is a usb micro charger, it all works....
only the time required to fully charged varies...
I am using a Nokia USB cable as a Charge. Works fine too.
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I'm using Nokia cable, Sony cable ... All work fine !
As long as the two data cables are connected to eachother, the DHD will recognise it as a wall charger, and it will use 1 ampère. Instead of the 0.5 amps when connected to a PC (when the data cables aren't connected to eachother).
You can buy "charging only" cables. They always charge at maximum rate and do not transmit any data. Usually come with external battery packs etc.
Just to clarify some. (Talking about USB2.0 as 3.0 has a little higher power)
The USB on computers are powered by the motherboard (if not using extra PCI USB card).
Usually the motherboard gives about 500mAh to each USB host. If that host has 4 USB connectors all those connectors share the 500mAh.
And just be careful to not go above 500mAh as some (older) motherboards or even add in card's cannot handle the extra power and will fail to work(permanently).
So a charge-only cable will not make a difference in this situation, same goes for using multiple USB ports as that also brings extra problems with it, as power/voltage doesn't flow in just 1 direction (when using 2 poles). You could blow out USB voltage regulators when connecting different USB power leads together.
As for the phone side you can also use a 5000mAh power source, as the phone will 'take' what it needs. For DHD the max charging power is about 800mAh~900mAh if I'm not mistaken.
As long as its 5V and somewhat stable.
So if you want to charge the DHD (or any other USB chargeable phone, mostly all of them) as fast as possible use the original wall charger.
If you have to do it on the PC/Notebook unplug as much USB devices as possible, so most of the power can go to the phone.
Also make sure the screen of the phone is turned off as that's the biggest battery drain of the DHD. Thus also making charging slower (when on).
I'm using htc charger to charge my e-cigarette . It's works good.
If you plug it into USB socket, and enable "Fast charge" option, does it do anything? Does it block the data transfer and acts like a wall socket (1A) ?
hey everyone, i having an issue while charging my note 10.1. When i charge it the battery have a red cross sign on it. i need to off the device in order for it to charge and it took long time for it to charge too. any solution to this?
reddevilboyz said:
hey everyone, i having an issue while charging my note 10.1. When i charge it the battery have a red cross sign on it. i need to off the device in order for it to charge and it took long time for it to charge too. any solution to this?
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Read the forum its standard .
Multiple slow charging posts .
jje
reddevilboyz said:
hey everyone, i having an issue while charging my note 10.1. When i charge it the battery have a red cross sign on it. i need to off the device in order for it to charge and it took long time for it to charge too. any solution to this?
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Are you using the supplied charger to charge it or are you charging using the USB-cable connected to you pc?
Use the charger...
Charging tru the USB does NOT work.......
P1nGu1n_ said:
Are you using the supplied charger to charge it or are you charging using the USB-cable connected to you pc?
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i am using the original charger to the wall charge. even i plug it into pc the red cross still showing. any solution?
As it's stated above - The Galaxy Note 10.1 can not charge threw USB due to the high power usage, all it can do is a "status quo" on battery usage.
So if you wan't to charge the Note, plugg it directly into the wall, and if possible, avoid power extenders.
reddevilboyz said:
i am using the original charger to the wall charge. even i plug it into pc the red cross still showing. any solution?
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If you are using the ac charger and the original cable, then you may have a fault in either the charger or the usb cable
If you can borrow a friends usb cable test to see if that helps
If not try your friends charger.
After a while the usb cable gets damaged and when damage can show a fault in different ways
Slow charging
The red cross appears
It shows charging but the battery never goes pass say about 1%
It shows charging but instead the unit is discharging.
If you get any of these before you wipe your device try another cable if possible
I have had my replaced already and ferl I will go and get a docking unit, and a spare cable
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hygradeb said:
If you are using the ac charger and the original cable, then you may have a fault in either the charger or the usb cable
If you can borrow a friends usb cable test to see if that helps
If not try your friends charger.
After a while the usb cable gets damaged and when damage can show a fault in different ways
Slow charging
The red cross appears
It shows charging but the battery never goes pass say about 1%
It shows charging but instead the unit is discharging.
If you get any of these before you wipe your device try another cable if possible
I have had my replaced already and ferl I will go and get a docking unit, and a spare cable
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sorry for late reply.
i did get a new charger from ebay but unfortuately the red cross is still there but nevertheless it charge slowly.. it took me about 8 to 10 hr for fully charged.
any other solution?
The probabilities are:
Charging Port is broken
Charging cable / Charging cable connector(s) is(are) broken
AC Charger is broken
Analysis:
Borrow someone else's charger & cable
Try the combination :
Other charger + your cable ==> if working then your Charger is broken
Your charger + other cable ==> if working then your Cable is broken
Other Charger + other Cable ==> if working Both Charger & Cable are broken
If all failed ==> your Charging port are broken
Eliminate posibilities