About chargers and battery durability - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have, like many of you, bought a Nexus 5. I didn't pay much attention to the problem with my former smartphone, and I'd like to do be sure this time.
So the charger that come with the Nexus5 delivers 1.2A, but I also have the charger from my Nexus 7 and I'm using it in my bedroom. The Nexus7 charger delivers 2.0A.
Do it will obviously be faster to charge the phone with the Nexus 7,but I'm concerned about the battery. Will it damaged it? Is it better to only use the Nexus5 charger?

BATC42 said:
I have, like many of you, bought a Nexus 5. I didn't pay much attention to the problem with my former smartphone, and I'd like to do be sure this time.
So the charger that come with the Nexus5 delivers 1.2A, but I also have the charger from my Nexus 7 and I'm using it in my bedroom. The Nexus7 charger delivers 2.0A.
Do it will obviously be faster to charge the phone with the Nexus 7,but I'm concerned about the battery. Will it damaged it? Is it better to only use the Nexus5 charger?
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Your battery will not be damaged. The phone will only accept as much of a charge as it can handle.

Thanks !

BATC42 said:
Thanks !
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It's always good to hit the thanks button when helped.

You can use 2.3a maximum without any problem. A slow charge is better for night just to reduse the temperature of the battery... But is not a big problem.
Anyway mine original n5 charger is 1.3a and I found some problem with some cables. I use 3 different cables and not all of them charge the phone. All of them charge the nexus 7 2012 and Gs3

You've right, is 1,2a!

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[Q] new to nexus !

does the phone really charge so slow??
There's already a few threads discussing the slow charge time. Seems to be an issue for many. All Galaxy S phones seem to take a lot longer to charge than say an iPhone.
My Nexus S always makes it through a good 16+ hour day without needing a charge, and I always charge overnight while sleeping, so I haven't personally noticed this as an issue.
Like any smartphone these days, it's probably a good idea to just partial charge during the day when you're in a situation (like the car, or at your computer desk) that lets you. It's not necessary to do the full drain, full recharge only with the current battery technology.
Its odd, mine and my wife's phones take maybe 3 hours to get to full from sub30% yet that seems to be the outlier.
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Are you charging it on the supplied wall charger or through a computer's USB port? It charges significantly slower through a USB port than from the wall charger
bajansurfer said:
Are you charging it on the supplied wall charger or through a computer's USB port? It charges significantly slower through a USB port than from the wall charger
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Its seems to go just as fast for me either way
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kenvan19 said:
Its seems to go just as fast for me either way
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Wall charger charges a bit faster than USB since its rated at 700 mA rather than 500 mA. Best bet would be to go with a car charger that charges at 1000+ mA.
i used wall charger..
Hi guys i have a wall charger from my nokia n97 mini which is 1200mA. Can i use it or i will destroy the battery?
alexxdj said:
Hi guys i have a wall charger from my nokia n97 mini which is 1200mA. Can i use it or i will destroy the battery?
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If the voltage is correct, the amperage should not be an issue...the phone should only draw the current it actually wants/needs.
But bear in mind, if your phone blows up, it's not my fault, I have no experience with that charger or it's actual ratings.

Is it OK to use a 2.1A charger on the Nexus 5?

Last year when I bought the Note 2 and saw it used a faster charger than my previous phone and had such a gigantic battery, I bought a lot of 2.1A chargers to replace my older 1A chargers.
Now that I got a Nexus 5, I'm wondering if the 2.1A chargers will either :
*Charge Faster? (if anyone has tested it, how much faster)
*Cap out and only charge as fast as the device permits?
*Damage the device because the phone cant regulate that charge speed?
anyone?
Scythe024 said:
anyone?
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The new battery`s limit the input by a charger to a acceptable level, you don`t have to worry regarding damage to the battery or phone due to a too high input (overcharging).
Any device made in the past few years will only draw as much as they're capable of using. Keep in mind that USB chargers are rated as a MAXIMUM, not as a constant. They CAN put out 2.1 amps, does not mean they MUST.

[Q] Phone warm when charging wirelessly?

I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?
srivas95 said:
I just got myself a Nokia DT-900 Wireless charger (Got it at a clearance at the Nokia store) for use with my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 7.
I charged the nexus 5 with it now. While it charges perfectly, even with a case on, the back of the phone gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. I was wondering if this is any cause for concern, or if this is normal. Have not tried with my nexus 7 though.
Does the nexus 5/7 work perfectly with the Nokia wireless charger, or is it Incompatibility that is causing the phone to warm up a little?
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I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.
Primokorn said:
I noticed the same thing with a LG Qi charger. This is my first wireless charger and I believe that it's normal.
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If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!
srivas95 said:
If the same thing happens with the Official LG Nexus charger, then it must be normal. Thanks!
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It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I
Primokorn said:
It's actually this one: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-WCP-300-Wireless-Charging/dp/B00C6VP03I
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As it's an LG, I doubt it's any different from the Nexus one. Both have the same specs. Have emailed Google regarding this, their reply was the standard 'We do not recommend using Non-Nexus chargers for Nexus devices'. I told them all QI chargers were actually supposed to work, and am awaiting their reply. Will follow up on this.
i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it
Enddo said:
i get worried with how wireless charging heats up my phone, so i try to avoid it
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I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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3DSammy said:
I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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my thoughts exactly
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900 -- my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).
3DSammy said:
I bought a QI wireless charger when I purchased the phone based on excellent reviews on Amazon. I've since stopped using it just because of random overheating and generally the phone was warmer than when charging via USB. It was a feeling that overtime my phone would suffer.
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Sent google a screenshot of my Battery info and temp while it was at max temp, they said there are no issues with it
jt3 said:
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm.
I regularly use my phone with the official nexus charger (in my car), the Nokia DT-910 (the stand-up version of the DT-900, and my main overnight charger), and the Samsung S-Charger Pad (at work). All are perfectly compatible with the N5. In fact, the only name-brand charger I'd steer clear of is the Tylt Vu, because there have been numerous incidents of overheating with that charger (i.e., the phone gets very hot to the touch).
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Yep, I read online that the Tylt Vu has some issues.
I spoke to Google about the Nokia charger, and they said the temp of the phone is normal. They did warn me that the Nokia does not cut charging automatically when it gets to 100%, and that I should Take it off manually
Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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bblzd said:
Using a case increases the distance between the phone and coil which can cause the phone to heat up even more. Even wired charging heats the battery so some extra warmth from the 25% lost energy seems normal.
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Okay, Maybe I should remove the case and try charging it
jt3 said:
Wireless charging, by its very nature, generates a small amount of heat. It is perfectly normal for your phone to get a bit warm whenever you're charging via any means, but especially when wireless charging. The key is the phrase "a bit warm." It should never be hot to the touch, just warm. The phone was designed to handle this, and there will be no adverse effects. In fact, the heat generated is much less than is generated by the CPU during heavy use (such as during a graphic intensive game).
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Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
Enddo said:
Lots of people who use wireless chargers say this but I am still skeptical. I would like to see battery capacity tests from two of the same devices. One that was only charged with wireless charging and the other only charged via USB.
My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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Yes, But seeing as most of us use the phone for only 1-2 years, I personally don't see a difference. Maybe the battery will lose capacity over time, but that's going to happen anyway. This will maybe speed up the process by about 20%.
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My money says the wireless charged device will have significantly less battery capacity than the usb charged device after 1-2 years of use.
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That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
jt3 said:
That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible
Enddo said:
which is fine. i just plan on using my N5 longer than a couple years and will do what i can to keep it as healthy as possible
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Whatever works for you man. To each his own
joneytatya said:
Have you been using the official nexus charger? Mine used to heat the phone earlier before I bought this one from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Wireless-Charger-Smartphones-Tablets/dp/B00GN1YKBU
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I tried with my friend's Official Nexus Charger, Phone still got a little warm. It's okay though, Now that Google have confirmed it with me. No issues
jt3 said:
That may be true, but that argument lies on shaky ground, since there are a lot of other ways you can (theoretically) reduce battery life as well. In theory, not allowing the battery to drain completely during each charge cycle, or not removing the phone from the charger the instant it's fully charged can reduce battery life, yet nobody charges their phone that way. There's also the counter-argument that plugging the charging cable in every single day can prematurely wear out, or break, the (very fragile) USB connector on the phone, which would result in the inability to charge at all. (I went through SOOO many Galaxy Nexuses... Nexes? Nexii? Whatever... because of that issue.)
The point is that sometimes, convenience takes priority over the possibility of slightly reduced battery life, and it's hard to argue against the convenience of wireless charging.
Plus, as Srivas95 stated, most of us will move on to the next device long before any such battery degradation becomes an issue.
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What you say is right, my Nexus 5 has been with me for just 4 months and I can already see that the jack is kind of loose. That is one of the reasons I got a wireless charger in the first place.

[Q] Rapid Charger 2.0

Does any one know if the charger come with the M9 is the Rapid Charger 2.0 or just a normal charger?
It comes with normal charger. Rapid charger 1.0. My m9 from 0-100% in two hours
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Does anyone know if these chargers have any negative effect on the battery over time?
the iVoler car charger, I just bought this to try it cause the price was low and the reviews said it was quality made. This charger works exactly as promised. And the 6 foot USB cable is of good quality and really nice. It also fits into my m9 with a nice click, and fits well around my case. I will definitely buy more of these!
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iVoler-Adaptive-Qualcomm-Motorola/dp/B00TDC0WJA/
david870325 said:
the iVoler car charger, I just bought this to try it cause the price was low and the reviews said it was quality made. This charger works exactly as promised. And the 6 foot USB cable is of good quality and really nice. It also fits into my m9 with a nice click, and fits well around my case. I will definitely buy more of these!
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-iVoler-Adaptive-Qualcomm-Motorola/dp/B00TDC0WJA/
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How long does it take you to charge your m 9 5o%? Thanks!!!
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anlygi said:
Does anyone know if these chargers have any negative effect on the battery over time?
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They will lead to battery at higher temp.
Mine Charges at approximately 2.5A I observed battery temp reach 43C before charging current was lowered until temperature came back down.
Likely to lead to slightly reduced lifespan .
No concern to me as I typically change phone every six months. Even to owners who change every two years it probably won't be noticeable. Good advice is to charge overnight with normal charger and use fast charger only when needed .
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I have the original charger and the rapid charger from the nexus 6 and I can say the nexus 6 charger does charge my phone a lot faster than the HTC provided one.
I'm tempted by the rapid charger 2.0 but I'm not sure, because charging a battery more faster it reduces the battery life. What do you think?
creepinm3 said:
I have the original charger and the rapid charger from the nexus 6 and I can say the nexus 6 charger does charge my phone a lot faster than the HTC provided one.
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I have the same charger but it doesn't charge any faster than the stock one.
Perhaps it's disabled in T-Mobile version?
PunishedSnake said:
I have the same charger but it doesn't charge any faster than the stock one.
Perhaps it's disabled in T-Mobile version?
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Perhaps. I am rooted and have fast charge enabled.
creepinm3 said:
Perhaps. I am rooted and have fast charge enabled.
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How did you enable it?
PunishedSnake said:
How did you enable it?
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With the kernel I am running it allowed me to enable the option.
PunishedSnake said:
How did you enable it?
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I have the exact same issue with my t-mobile m9, and greatly miss being able to take advantage of this from using the m8
creepinm3 said:
Perhaps. I am rooted and have fast charge enabled.
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creepinm3 said:
With the kernel I am running it allowed me to enable the option.
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Hmmp Perhaps it has been disabled. I wonder if there's a way to enable it witbiut root. Since I don't plan to until after 5.1.1
toiday said:
Does any one know if the charger come with the M9 is the Rapid Charger 2.0 or just a normal charger?
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buy the htc rapid charger, theres a huge difference id say 0 - 50 in a half hour tops. I love it and it works well with all QC phone including my n5
deakelem said:
buy the htc rapid charger, theres a huge difference id say 0 - 50 in a half hour tops. I love it and it works well with all QC phone including my n5
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Dang, that's fast. I don't really have a need for it to be that fast, since I sit at a desk and wirelessly charge all day, but that is great that that is an option

Wireless Charging

Anyone planning on or tried wireless charging yet? I see some decent reviews for the model below on Amazon. Just curious if it will charge quicker than my current phone (Nexus 6)?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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No idea what you are linking too.
grinchyyy said:
Anyone planning on or tried wireless charging yet? I see some decent reviews for the model below on Amazon. Just curious if it will charge quicker than my current phone (Nexus 6)?
Wireless Charging Receiver, Nillkin...p/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
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The Pixel does not support wireless charging. You would need to install one of those stick on QI compliant receivers that plug into the USB C port.
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No idea what you are linking too.
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TEK112 said:
The Pixel does not support wireless charging. You would need to install one of those stick on QI compliant receivers that plug into the USB C port.
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Yes I realize that, looking for opinions from anyone who has used these. I fixed the link too, oops.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
Sent from my Nexus 6 that thinks it's a Pixel XL
grinchyyy said:
Yes I realize that, looking for opinions from anyone who has used these. I fixed the link too, oops.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3zqybSH2TE4Q
Sent from my Nexus 6 that thinks it's a Pixel XL
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I don't have first hand experience, but I see a few problems.
First, the USB C factory charger charges the phone to 70% in 15 minutes. It isn't like previous devices where you would throw it on the QI charger every spare moment because the battery took forever to charge. Second, the voltage output is not device specific and would take longer to charge the phone than using a standard USB C cable/charger.
I guess what I am saying is that yeah, any of the QI compliant stickers would work, but I ask, are they useful? I lived by QI on my Nexus 6, but seeing what type of battery life I get now, coupled with the ridiculously quick charge times, I no longer see the merit.
I don't mean to thread crap, but it took me a while to get over QI when weighing my options to upgrade. I honestly no longer miss wireless charging. I miss my dual facing stereo speaker and my almost 0 bezel from my Nexus 6, but not QI.
I hope this somewhat helps.
TEK112 said:
I don't have first hand experience, but I see a few problems.
First, the USB C factory charger charges the phone to 70% in 15 minutes. It isn't like previous devices where you would throw it on the QI charger every spare moment because the battery took forever to charge. Second, the voltage output is not device specific and would take longer to charge the phone than using a standard USB C cable/charger.
I guess what I am saying is that yeah, any of the QI compliant stickers would work, but I ask, are they useful? I lived by QI on my Nexus 6, but seeing what type of battery life I get now, coupled with the ridiculously quick charge times, I no longer see the merit.
I don't mean to thread crap, but it took me a while to get over QI when weighing my options to upgrade. I honestly no longer miss wireless charging. I miss my dual facing stereo speaker and my almost 0 bezel from my Nexus 6, but not QI.
I hope this somewhat helps.
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Definitely helps, and yes I too am struggling with just getting over wireless charging. It's just hard to cast aside all the wireless accessories (for 2 phones, my wife has one as well).
I think once there is an external DAC that has inline charging I'll happily dump the wireless charging idea haha!
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