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[Q] Rooting my android

hi Experts,
i tried to find the answer from the forum, took me hours but no answer.That is why I am posting this thread.I want to root my HTC G1.But I don't want to use custom roms.On iphone when I jailbreaked my phone i did not go for another rom ,i used the same that came with it.My question is if I root my android device ,do I really need to install a new rom or I can use the same that came with it but will gain some power of having root.
sincerely,
ml

You don't need to but why not use a rom that has more features than stock.

Thanks for reply.I want to but afraid of make the device too slow.i can still remember when I upgraded ios 3.0.2 to ios4 on my iphone ,it was quiet annoying to use.I just want to root to move my apps to the sd card.

Installing a custom rom, normally, doesn't make your phone goes slow... but it gives it a HUGE boost and add features!!! And Android is not Ios 4...

yukinok25 said:
Installing a custom rom, normally, doesn't make your phone goes slow... but it gives it a HUGE boost and add features!!! And Android is not Ios 4...
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Thanks now I think there is no way to turn back.Can you or any one please tell me which rom I will go for.Cause My Htc G1 is not T-Mobile version ,it is from Rogers.i know there are a lot of thread about it ,I just need to focus on that rom which is the most stable and will work all functionality of the phone.

Does Android need ROM to work ?

As I have understand ROM is only manufacturers " own look". So is it possible to somehow delete ROM and use "naked" android ?
Im using Motorola DEFY 2.2.2 (nordic nonblur version)
This could be stupid question. But yes, Im beginner in Android world

Even if you use "naked" Android, this would still be a ROM. This is what's commonly referred to as 'stock' Android.. And yes it is possible, just do a search for a 'barebones' ROM. Here's one.
A phone without a ROM is like a computer without an operating system. It may as well be an empty box.

Motodefyuser said:
As I have understand ROM is only manufacturers " own look". So is it possible to somehow delete ROM and use "naked" android ?
Im using Motorola DEFY 2.2.2 (nordic nonblur version)
This could be stupid question. But yes, Im beginner in Android world
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a custom Rom (like cm7) is just a modified android firmware which has his own look and the "unnecessary" System Apps are deleted, the whole android system is customized, you have more settings...
i hope i could help you.
sorry for my bad english!
Julian

juli9797 said:
a custom Rom (like cm7) is just a modified android firmware which has his own look and the "unnecessary" System Apps are deleted, the whole android system is customized, you have more settings...
i hope i could help you.
sorry for my bad english!
Julian
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Ookay. Thanks. Im not gonna install any custom ROM yet coz' Im not sure about all these things whitch you need to do to install custom ROM. But maby in future when Im more vise...
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I've always wondered why they still it a ROM. In early days, smartphones and PDAs had a read only memory area which stored the Operating System(OS) of the device. This is how the word ROM came. I think this is not relevant anymore and a OS would be more descriptive.
If you swap the word ROM with the word Operating System(OS), everything will be clear. Android doesn't need ROM or OS to work because Android itself is the ROM/OS.
All devices come with a preinstalled ROM designed by the manufacturer. This is called stock ROM.
Then, there's vanilla ROM or AOSP ROM. These ROMs have the Android OS in its purest form as developed by Google. Most manufacturers add a custom interface and software in the stock ROM.
Finally, we have custom ROMs. There are extensively modified ROMs which have features and customization you can't find in custom or AOSP ROMs. These are usually for the people who want to push their device beyond its limits. It's kind of like getting a tattoo. Famous examples include CyanogenMod, MIUI and MCR.

nibras_reeza said:
I've always wondered why they still it a ROM. In early days, smartphones and PDAs had a read only memory area which stored the Operating System(OS) of the device. This is how the word ROM came. I think this is not relevant anymore and a OS would be more descriptive.
If you swap the word ROM with the word Operating System(OS), everything will be clear. Android doesn't need ROM or OS to work because Android itself is the ROM/OS.
All devices come with a preinstalled ROM designed by the manufacturer. This is called stock ROM.
Then, there's vanilla ROM or AOSP ROM. These ROMs have the Android OS in its purest form as developed by Google. Most manufacturers add a custom interface and software in the stock ROM.
Finally, we have custom ROMs. There are extensively modified ROMs which have features and customization you can't find in custom or AOSP ROMs. These are usually for the people who want to push their device beyond its limits. It's kind of like getting a tattoo. Famous examples include CyanogenMod, MIUI and MCR.
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"Android doesn't need ROM or OS to work because Android itself is the ROM/OS."
So is it possible to somehow hide/delete ROM ? I have Motorola DEFY (nonblur) and I don't really like that ROM made by motorola..

Motodefyuser said:
"Android doesn't need ROM or OS to work because Android itself is the ROM/OS."
So is it possible to somehow hide/delete ROM ? I have Motorola DEFY (nonblur) and I don't really like that ROM made by motorola..
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No. You still need a ROM, just think of a rom as the operating system. You can flash a rom that's what you're looking for. Look through your phone's development section & see if you can find something that you like. Then if you don't know how to flash custom roms, read about that until you understand. It's not hard to do, and I bet you'll like your phone even more once you find a rom that you like.
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plainjane said:
No. You still need a ROM, just think of a rom as the operating system. You can flash a rom that's what you're looking for. Look through your phone's development section & see if you can find something that you like. Then if you don't know how to flash custom roms, read about that until you understand. It's not hard to do, and I bet you'll like your phone even more once you find a rom that you like.
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Okay. Thanks mate !

Motodefyuser said:
"Android doesn't need ROM or OS to work because Android itself is the ROM/OS."
So is it possible to somehow hide/delete ROM ? I have Motorola DEFY (nonblur) and I don't really like that ROM made by motorola..
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You can *replace* the MotoBlur ROM by Motorola with a AOSP or Vanilla ROM for your phone. This is specific to your phone and you should see the development section for your phone.
A phone will not function without a ROM. It's like the Windows or Linux in a PC. ROM is just another word for Operating System.

nibras_reeza said:
You can *replace* the MotoBlur ROM by Motorola with a AOSP or Vanilla ROM for your phone. This is specific to your phone and you should see the development section for your phone.
A phone will not function without a ROM. It's like the Windows or Linux in a PC. ROM is just another word for Operating System.
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Okay. Thanks! Then one question coz' you know about these Do z4root work? And is it safe?
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Motodefyuser said:
Okay. Thanks! Then one question coz' you know about these Do z4root work? And is it safe?
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No rooting or modding procedure is 100% risk free. There's always a slight risk although it's very minimal.
Most often, even if something goes wrong and you can't use the phone, you can usually boot into bootloader/fastboot/recovery and use a PC software that came with your phone to restore it to the factory state.
I have used z4root. I don't prefer it but it's relatively easy and works on all 2.1 phones, some 2.2 phones and very few 2.3 phones. If your model is listed as supported, it will most probably work.
Nonetheless, this question is specific to your phone and you should ask it in the Motorola Defy forums or another Defy user.

[Q] [Help] [New Device] I need help creating a ROM for my new phone

Hello everyone! I am a little new to this, so please take it easy on me. I have actually never created my own Android ROM via the AOSP, but I have opened up Zip files for ROMs other developers have created and have been able to do basics.
I recently bought this device: MPie G7 (gearbest . com/cell-phones/pp_76182.html)
As you can all tell, it is not exactly a very popular phone. So, finding source code for this phone's ROM is basically, impossible. I have also been unable to find the manufactures website address either (anyone have any ideas?).
Anyway, here are my very noob questions. I am obviously planning on hitting base with the AOSP code, but with Lollipop. This poses a new problem to me, because I cannot find the source code, how am I supposed ot create a kernel specific ROM? This thing runs on a MTK, most precisely: MTK6582. It came with Android 4.4.2 (KitKat).
I am also worried about one small other thing, which is the gestures. If my phone is on standby, screen is off, I can do gestures on the off screen to do certain things. Similar to the OnePlus One. But, I am worried I will not be able to do that if I build my own ROM from source.
Anyone have suggestions? Or can possibly help? Thank you very much. All your help is appreciated!

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omarquazi said:
Hello everyone! I am a little new to this, so please take it easy on me. I have actually never created my own Android ROM via the AOSP, but I have opened up Zip files for ROMs other developers have created and have been able to do basics.
I recently bought this device: MPie G7 (gearbest . com/cell-phones/pp_76182.html)
As you can all tell, it is not exactly a very popular phone. So, finding source code for this phone's ROM is basically, impossible. I have also been unable to find the manufactures website address either (anyone have any ideas?).
Anyway, here are my very noob questions. I am obviously planning on hitting base with the AOSP code, but with Lollipop. This poses a new problem to me, because I cannot find the source code, how am I supposed ot create a kernel specific ROM? This thing runs on a MTK, most precisely: MTK6582. It came with Android 4.4.2 (KitKat).
I am also worried about one small other thing, which is the gestures. If my phone is on standby, screen is off, I can do gestures on the off screen to do certain things. Similar to the OnePlus One. But, I am worried I will not be able to do that if I build my own ROM from source.
Anyone have suggestions? Or can possibly help? Thank you very much. All your help is appreciated!
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Why don't you list down some of the specifications of your phone and compare them with other mediatek devices!!!
That way if u have the stock ROM of the phone then u can port ROMs from another mediatek device like xolo q700i which has a dedicated thread!!! xolo q700i has many different number of ROMs !!! That way by zip based theming and porting you might be successful in at least creating a ROM for yourself which u can use as a base for different roms!!!

The way I see it if you don't have source or downloadable ROM from your OEM, you have two options:
- like @thecoolster said you could try flashing ROMs from similar devices, and hope you don't end up stuck with a soft brick.
- or, likely your device can be easily rooted (in the settings perhaps?) if it isn't already. Then you can make nandroid to give yourself a stock ROM to cook.
Actually porting your ROM from a developer device tree and AOSP or CM is hard if you are only a hobbyist cook.
Even with a cooked ROM, you'd need a recovery that lets you flash it or you'd have to use SP flashtool and make your own config files for the flash.

[Q] verykool Spark II s5015 ROM Question

Hello,
With the recent Android M coming out soon, I wanted to try to find a custom ROM to flash onto my Android Phone. It's the VeryKool Sparks II s5015. However, being as it's not very much supported, I'm having issues finding ROM's etc for Lollipop custom builds. Does anyone have any idea's where I could get one? Or what? CM 12 doesn't appear to be compatible.

hey bro, your phone it's compatible but there are no developers working on your specific device, thats the reason for that you can't find a ROM... Whatever your phone have MTK Chipset, install cpu-z app from playstore and see what model is. example mine device is mt6572. when you sure know your device chipset can download custom rom from here: http://_www.mtkroms.com_/ and here: http://_www.mtkcrom.blogspot.com_/ (delete the "_" on URL) obviously you have to ported first for your device, but don't worry, there are tutorials on the pages.
finally sorry for my bad english and... do all things at your own risk, if i helped you click the "thanks" button

building a custom android ROM

Hello, I own an mtk device - Tecno boom j7-
Rooted, but running stock ROM ( android v4.4.2). 1gb of Ram and 16gb of Rom. It is a good device, however the manufacturers have refused to release an update for it. As it is not so popular, there are no forums for it or custom ROMs. I really want to upgrade my device to at least android 5.1, so I have decided to take matters into my own hands by "building" my own custom ROM (FROM AOSP), as I know that another device's ROM cannot be flashed for it (learned that the hard way ). However, I do not know how to go about getting and modifying the source code to work on my device. Since this is a device specific question, any tips or pieces of advice would be much welcome.
Thanks.

the_calculator said:
Hello, I own an mtk device - Tecno boom j7-
Rooted, but running stock ROM ( android v4.4.2). 1gb of Ram and 16gb of Rom. It is a good device, however the manufacturers have refused to release an update for it. As it is not so popular, there are no forums for it or custom ROMs. I really want to upgrade my device to at least android 5.1, so I have decided to take matters into my own hands by "building" my own custom ROM (FROM AOSP), as I know that another device's ROM cannot be flashed for it (learned that the hard way ). However, I do not know how to go about getting and modifying the source code to work on my device. Since this is a device specific question, any tips or pieces of advice would be much welcome.
Thanks.
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Building a custom ROM takes time and a lot of internet data.you're better of porting roms as there are a whole lot of ROMs for mediatek especially 6582/6592
I believe your phone is mediatek 6582 with kernel version 3.4.67 ,if so you can simply port ROM from sites like mtkroms and flash it on your phone
You're right about you can't flash another phones ROM (there are a few exceptions that are irrelevant here) ,but you can port( I,e make some ROMs that's are not for your phone but has the same soc and kernel version run on your phone)
There are a lot of guides about doing it
Good luck
P.s there are custom ROMs already available for your phone

northwindtrades said:
Building a custom ROM takes time and a lot of internet data.you're better of porting roms as there are a whole lot of ROMs for mediatek especially 6582/6592
I believe your phone is mediatek 6582 with kernel version 3.4.67 ,if so you can simply port ROM from sites like mtkroms and flash it on your phone
You're right about you can't flash another phones ROM (there are a few exceptions that are irrelevant here) ,but you can port( I,e make some ROMs that's are not for your phone but has the same soc and kernel version run on your phone)
There are a lot of guides about doing it
Good luck
P.s there are custom ROMs already available for your phone
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Thanks alot @northwindtrades, did a little research and found out you were right, mtk - 6582 with kernel 3.4.67. Heading over to mtkroms right now. Thanks for saving me the trouble and data! :good:

northwindtrades said:
Building a custom ROM takes time and a lot of internet data.you're better of porting roms as there are a whole lot of ROMs for mediatek especially 6582/6592
I believe your phone is mediatek 6582 with kernel version 3.4.67 ,if so you can simply port ROM from sites like mtkroms and flash it on your phone
You're right about you can't flash another phones ROM (there are a few exceptions that are irrelevant here) ,but you can port( I,e make some ROMs that's are not for your phone but has the same soc and kernel version run on your phone)
There are a lot of guides about doing it
Good luck
P.s there are custom ROMs already available for your phone
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Thanks alot @northwindtrades, did a little research and found out you were right, mtk - 6582 with kernel 3.4.67. Heading over to mtkroms right now. Thanks for saving me the trouble and data! :good:

the_calculator said:
Thanks alot @northwindtrades, did a little research and found out you were right, mtk - 6582 with kernel 3.4.67. Heading over to mtkroms right now. Thanks for saving me the trouble and data! :good:
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No problem,goodl luck