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4G vs WIFI

This is weird when I run speed test on 4g I have download speeds of 7mbs avg. When I run Wifi I get avg of 3mbs which is about half as fast, but as far as my expierence Wifi works twice as fast when surfing web or downloading files what gives. What do you guys prefer, I mean while you are home around Wifi.
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I use wifi. My 4g network sucks at my home.
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Generally my results are similar. My home ISP is pretty terrible though, really the only time I use Wifi is to download ROMs, for whatever reason I seem get issues if I download them over the Mobile Network, possibly corrupted downloads.
Otherwise just for Wifi calling.
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Everytime I used Wifi calling my calls would be dropped with in a min got that crap turned off plus it may use plan mins lol
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WiFi & 4G are around the same at my home.... WiFi is usually around 9.5 mb/s while 4G is around 6 to 7 mb/s. Call quality is noticeably better on 4G than WiFi.
T-Mo has a free option in your account to not get charged for WiFi calling minutes...it's disabled by default so log on or call and get it changed if you use WiFi for calling.

htaak said:
WiFi & 4G are around the same at my home.... WiFi is usually around 9.5 mb/s while 4G is around 6 to 7 mb/s. Call quality is noticeably better on 4G than WiFi.
T-Mo has a free option in your account to not get charged for WiFi calling minutes...it's disabled by default so log on or call and get it changed if you use WiFi for calling.
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I have unlimited plan so it don't matter I was being sarcastic
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4G is spotty where I live.. maybe 500kbs at best.. though at my friends place, I can get 9-11Mbs.
My wifi works great though, I get about 18Mbs down at home, and about 7Mbs at work. WiFi calling works great for me at home.

anoymonos said:
This is weird when I run speed test on 4g I have download speeds of 7mbs avg. When I run Wifi I get avg of 3mbs which is about half as fast, but as far as my expierence Wifi works twice as fast when surfing web or downloading files what gives. What do you guys prefer, I mean while you are home around Wifi.
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This is my theory remember its not fact just a theory.
Using the mobile data connection you have to share with every person in that area on T-Mobile. Using wifi you only share with the people in your neighborhood. Even tho you are getting those speeds with a higher ping because of couple hundred people playing pandora or something it will slow the process.
Another thing remember a speed test is just that a test. It is done in a short period of time. I can run a speed test at my house through out the day and get varying results. Even while getting the max DL speed sometimes things will take longer to load then when Im barely getting 1mb speeds. The load on the network has a very large result on how fast things actually download.

Good point
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I hope you aren't sharing your wifi with others in your neighborhood

lumin30 said:
I hope you aren't sharing your wifi with others in your neighborhood
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Heh, no but cable internet does share from the hub.

I was just about to comment on ping times... even though throughput is high, ping does play a major role.
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anoymonos said:
I have unlimited plan so it don't matter I was being sarcastic
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Ok...... My statement was for those people.who do not have unlimited plan...and how to make sure your wifi calls DO NOT come out of your monthly minutes.
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What the hell is wrong with WiFi

It just stops working for no apparent reason and the signal indicator fluctuates wildly. Amazingly the LTE signal is very strong and reliable, guess I'll be relying on that over wifi which just seems wrong.
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If I sit in front of my router it works great but if I move a little out of the way it just doesn't work. This sucks, because otherwise I'm loving the phone.
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mobilehavoc said:
If I sit in front of my router it works great but if I move a little out of the way it just doesn't work. This sucks, because otherwise I'm loving the phone.
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I was curious about this too. Are you on AT&T or Rogers? I know many are reporting issues with Wireless N routers.
Supposedly it will be fixed in a firmware update.

mobilehavoc said:
It just stops working for no apparent reason and the signal indicator fluctuates wildly. Amazingly the LTE signal is very strong and reliable, guess I'll be relying on that over wifi which just seems wrong.
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Same here, my connection randomly drops. I just turn wifi off and on and it comes back on.

aspj111 said:
Same here, my connection randomly drops. I just turn wifi off and on and it comes back on.
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What kind of routers are you guys using? I read its doing this with N routers and not B or G routers.

MattMJB0188 said:
What kind of routers are you guys using? I read its doing this with N routers and not B or G routers.
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I have a netgear, couple years old. Not sure what type though.

In the WiFi settings, under the menu, "WiFi Network Bands", select "2.4 GHz only". That improved the wifi quality significantly for me.

rohandhruva said:
In the WiFi settings, under the menu, "WiFi Network Bands", select "2.4 GHz only". That improved the wifi quality significantly for me.
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I can confirm that switching to "2.4 GHZ only" improved the stability for myself as well. This will have to do until HTC releases a fix.

Been using mine for about 2 hours and no WiFi issues yet. Router is an apple time capsule.
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I'm using an apple router and my WiFi is dropping in and out. I've tried changing to 2.4 GHz but still havingbthe issue. What a pain.
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chrikenn said:
Been using mine for about 2 hours and no WiFi issues yet. Router is an apple time capsule.
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Funny literally 5 seconds after I sent that message my WiFi died and then my phone spontaneously rebooted. Wonderful.
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chrikenn said:
Funny literally 5 seconds after I sent that message my WiFi died and then my phone spontaneously rebooted. Wonderful.
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Yeah there's definitely a major issue with the wifi driver on this phone. Everyone having this issue please tweet @HTC with it.
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Has anyone tried to assign a specific DHCP lease to their phone with their router to see if this solves the problem? This is killing me, I have to have a phone with flawless wifi, I don't get great cell signal where I work so I need the wifi for texting (I use google voice) / chat / email. I guess I will know more tomorrow when I get home to get mine. I tried to talk my wife to brining it to me at work but no dice there.
I currently have a galaxy nexus which has very finicky wifi as well. I have found that it is more router related than anything else. With the apple airport extreme the connection has always been perfect, but I saw here this is not the case with this phone. Fingers Crossed.

AT&T broke the WIFI on purpose for the following reason
have you use LTE.
Charge your for going over data cap
Profit?

rohandhruva said:
In the WiFi settings, under the menu, "WiFi Network Bands", select "2.4 GHz only". That improved the wifi quality significantly for me.
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Seems to have done the trick for me!!

From a purely RF point of view, 2.4GHz has better range than 5GHz due to being able to go through walls better. If other devices don't have issues connecting over 5Ghz from the same location, then the issue may be the WiFi antenna design and/or the case material which makes it difficult for higher frequencies to get through. This is most likely the case if by approaching the router you are able to connect over 5 GHz.

aspj111 said:
Seems to have done the trick for me!!
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Trying it now too. Appears to be better but reserving judgement.
I just want HTC to acknowledge the issue so it will get fixed.
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zivan56 said:
From a purely RF point of view, 2.4GHz has better range than 5GHz due to being able to go through walls better. If other devices don't have issues connecting over 5Ghz from the same location, then the issue may be the WiFi antenna design and/or the case material which makes it difficult for higher frequencies to get through. This is most likely the case if by approaching the router you are able to connect over 5 GHz.
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This would be fine but I have issues when connected to 2.4ghz when 5ghz is enabled. After I turned off 5ghz its stable so this is not a signal issue, this is some type of driver or kernel issue.
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mobilehavoc said:
This would be fine but I have issues when connected to 2.4ghz when 5ghz is enabled. After I turned off 5ghz its stable so this is not a signal issue, this is some type of driver or kernel issue.
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I believe your correct, hopefully HTC will adress it.In the mean time at least it's a bit more stable so far switching to 2.4

Switching your ip to static also works! lets you keep the frequencies on auto. Good for your home wifi. For other locations i guess set it back to 2.4ghz. Hopefully HTC addresses this sometime soon.

Different WiFi problem?

My WiFi connection always says it's full but it takes longer than on 3g to load. I'm not even on hspa and it's faster than the WiFi. Yet when I do a speed test for the WiFi it's great. Anyone else have this problem or is this the same WiFi problem as before?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
My WiFi connection always says it's full but it takes longer than on 3g to load. I'm not even on hspa and it's faster than the WiFi. Yet when I do a speed test for the WiFi it's great. Anyone else have this problem or is this the same WiFi problem as before?
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yes. happens to me from time to time as well. Especially on Forum Runner and Facebook.

gunnyman said:
yes. happens to me from time to time as well. Especially on Forum Runner and Facebook.
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Facebook has actually been pretty good. It's the browsers that give me trouble. I got a different modem and router but I don't remember if it was doing it before that.
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I've had facebook tell me no connection retry when looking at full bars on my wifi connection. grrr

gunnyman said:
I've had facebook tell me no connection retry when looking at full bars on my wifi connection. grrr
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I think that's a Facebook problem. I've had the same message on a couple of phones I own.
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gunnyman said:
I've had facebook tell me no connection retry when looking at full bars on my wifi connection. grrr
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I get that alot, and it is truly annoying. I'm an android noob/apple convert and one of the biggest android quirks for me is that if wi-fi is "connected" the apps won't fall back to 4g if the wi-fi craps out. If i have 5 bars of 4G don't ****ing tell me I have no connection, use the 4G.

gunnyman said:
I've had facebook tell me no connection retry when looking at full bars on my wifi connection. grrr
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Exact same thing here.

I actually see my wifi bars go down to zero bars and come back up to full bars while browsing. I did a speed test and it slows the speed when it goes to zero or one bars. I tried to squeeze the phone between the camera and the volume rocker but it doesn't seem to fluctuate much by squeezing. Anybody else experience this? I'm on sick sense rom.
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This is really starting to piss me off. I try loading a PhoneDog.com page and the loading bar just sits a 3/4 forever. After a long while it'll say something like connection timed out. I wish I knew if it was my router causing it or the phone. I'm thinking the phone because it did it in the previous one.
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What router are you using (with ac wireless)

I'm planing on changing my router for a new one that has ac wireless. Before I RMA my nexus 5 for that damn WiFi drop issue I thought it was time to try a New router but I would like to know who has a router with ac wireless and if you have any WiFi drop. So very easy.
Router manufacturer make and model.....
WiFi drop yes/no
Thanks
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I use a Asus RT-AC66R and love it. Never had an issue with any device. No drops either.
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nitramus said:
I'm planing on changing my router for a new one that has ac wireless. Before I RMA my nexus 5 for that damn WiFi drop issue I thought it was time to try a New router but I would like to know who has a router with ac wireless and if you have any WiFi drop. So very easy.
Router manufacturer make and model.....
WiFi drop yes/no
Thanks
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Mine is no AC wireless but its certainly better than those Asus AC High performance routers
what I like is a balance between Coverage and performance a company called Amped Wireless In the USAMakes these types of routers not some cheap china/korean stuff
What I have is this http://www.ampedwireless.com/products/r20000g.html
It's got dual signal amplifiers each antenna port is outputting 600Mw of power that's face melting wifi right there. Most routers don't even output 100Mw. Routers with internal antennas put out only like 50Mw and have no signal noise filters.
So overall my router is a bit overkill but somehow my Nexus 5 manages to drop the connection lol... my other devices don't exhibit such behavior though.
I'm guessing this is software and I'll wait till Android 4.5 comes I have a year anyway from LG to RMA

Netgear Nighthawk R7000.
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Cheap Netgear... About $100
Screenshot is in my backyard about 60 to 70 feet away. I have no WiFi signal drop.
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Thanks all and keep it coming
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nitramus said:
Thanks all and keep it coming
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Did you check what channel your routers using or if there's a conflict with a nearby router on the same channel. My wife's Macbook pro couldn't hold a WiFi signal from 6 feet away yet every other device in our house had no problems. What I did was took the router off auto and set it to use a specific channel that no other routers within a couple hundred feet where using. Now the MBP has been rock solid since. Turns out me and two neibors were all on channel 6. All my Asus Transformers where real sensitive to signal also.
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ilostmypistons said:
Did you check what channel your routers using or if there's a conflict with a nearby router on the same channel. My wife's Macbook pro couldn't hold a WiFi signal from 6 feet away yet every other device in our house had no problems. What I did was took the router off auto and set it to use a specific channel that no other routers within a couple hundred feet where using. Now the MBP has been rock solid since. Turns out me and two neibors were all on channel 6. All my Asus Transformers where real sensitive to signal also.
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Hey you might have just fixed my Nexus 5 wifi dropping issue 3 of my Neighbors are using channel 6 also. Whats up with Auto on routers defaulting to channel 6. Anyways it seems good now ! :good:

markdapimp said:
Hey you might have just fixed my Nexus 5 wifi dropping issue 3 of my Neighbors are using channel 6 also. Whats up with Auto on routers defaulting to channel 6. Anyways it seems good now ! :good:
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I should be able to tune that super router to send out solid long range 5G
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Netgear routers like channel 6
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david279 said:
Netgear routers like channel 6
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So do Comcast and At&t supplied combo router/modems
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ilostmypistons said:
I should be able to tune that super router to send out solid long range 5G
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Haha switching my channel also increased the coverage lol the amplifier is now at full 600Ma where it used to be only 350

ilostmypistons said:
Did you check what channel your routers using or if there's a conflict with a nearby router on the same channel. My wife's Macbook pro couldn't hold a WiFi signal from 6 feet away yet every other device in our house had no problems. What I did was took the router off auto and set it to use a specific channel that no other routers within a couple hundred feet where using. Now the MBP has been rock solid since. Turns out me and two neibors were all on channel 6. All my Asus Transformers where real sensitive to signal also.
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I am the only one on my channel and have tried everything hence why I'm at this point.
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nitramus said:
I am the only one on my channel and have tried everything hence why I'm at this point.
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Try different channels anyway.. Different device radios react to differently to frequencies
Its free and can't hurt
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Does anyone have the new 5ghz wifi routers? How well does it do with the Nexus 5? Does our phone even support 5ghz?
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FuMMoD said:
Does anyone have the new 5ghz wifi routers? How well does it do with the Nexus 5? Does our phone even support 5ghz?
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It certainly does. You can force it to 2.4 or 5Ghz.
I had to force 2.4Ghz on the phone with my old Wireless G router or speeds were compromised.
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bblzd said:
It certainly does. You can force it to 2.4 or 5Ghz.
I had to force 2.4Ghz on the phone with my old Wireless G router or speeds were compromised.
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You're right, I just noticed it now.
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Asus RT-AC66U with latest Merlin
No drop

Anyone having trouble seeing some AC channels? I had a launch day N5 that had no problem connecting to ch 153 on my Netgear Nighthawk running DD-WRT. I sold that N5 months ago and now have bought another N5. This one won't "see" my AC network unless it's set to a channel under 48. Even wifi analyzer shows that I have a limited 5 GHz channel range. My S4 connects just fine. Do your N5's see higher 5 GHz channels?
See the photo below. I only see my neighbor's wifi 5G network and the graph stops at 44.
EDIT: Fixed it. It seems changing my extension channel has fixed the issue. I now see the network. N5 seems to not support all AC channels listed in my DD-WRT channel settings.

Slow wifi speeds

Anyone else getting slow wifi speeds? I get constant buffering on youtube, netflix, and Instagram videos take forever to load. My wife has a g4 and never has these issues her youtube has zero buffering and I always have to use her phone to connect to my chrome cast cuz my note either won't find it or disconnects randomly as well as cause buffer.

Are you using 5ghz wifi band?
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nktwister said:
Are you using 5ghz wifi band?
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Yes.

Here are my speeds with lte and wifi. Both are strong. Both buffer with youtube, and netflix, ig videos and such. Idk why. My wife's g4 do sent have any other these issues. I try to watch a YouTube video in 1080p and it buffers a lot

sexcytyme said:
Here are my speeds with lte and wifi. Both are strong. Both buffer with youtube, and netflix, ig videos and such. Idk why. My wife's g4 do sent have any other these issues. I try to watch a YouTube video in 1080p and it buffers a lot
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Ok, I thought you had slow wifi but it looks like you've normal wifi speed.. maybe you need to check qos setting on your router, not sure.
I had interference in 5ghz band because of my new wireless surround system which uses same channel..
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nktwister said:
Ok, I thought you had slow wifi but it looks like you've normal wifi speed.. maybe you need to check qos setting on your router, not sure.
I had interference in 5ghz band because of my new wireless surround system which uses same channel..
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I don't have slow download speeds but when I watch a video or try to cast netflix on my TV it buffers like crazy. I have to watch videos in low definition to watch them with out buffering.

Seems like QOS setting on router to me or some sort of interference with 5ghz band so it's slow and you notice slowness only while watching video..
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Seems like QOS setting on router to me or some sort of interference with 5ghz band so it's slow and you notice slowness only while watching video..
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Maybe but my g4 runs fast on wifi..

try changing your wifi to static IP instead of DHCP, something about DHCP is ****ing up my phone too.

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sexcytyme said:
Anyone else getting slow wifi speeds? I get constant buffering on youtube, netflix, and Instagram videos take forever to load. My wife has a g4 and never has these issues her youtube has zero buffering and I always have to use her phone to connect to my chrome cast cuz my note either won't find it or disconnects randomly as well as cause buffer.
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I read somewhere that someone rectified that issue by disabling 'Binge On' in their T-Mobile online account. Might be worth a shot.
All I know is you go into your online account and disable that feature. Hope it helps.
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I figured out my problem, go into your Router and enable DNS relay, I am using Arris router connect to a Ruckus R700 ap router (ISP is time warner cable), at first I thought it was a DHCP problem but further research tells me to go into my router and enable the "DNS relay" and everything is fast now...
very weird but hey whatever works.