I see Amazon selling the unlocked Samsung Note and mostly all people who bought it are on At&t. I was wondering would this work with Sprint newtwork. I guess At&t and Sprint are on different networks. I saw that At&t guys had to change theie APN.
cowboynut said:
I see Amazon selling the unlocked Samsung Note and mostly all people who bought it are on At&t. I was wondering would this work with Sprint newtwork. I guess At&t and Sprint are on different networks. I saw that At&t guys had to change theie APN.
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No. Sprint uses CDMA which means no SIM cards. The note will only work on AT&T, T-mobile, and basically every other network in the world besides Verizon and Sprint.
I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
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I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
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Think I can help answer a few Qs.
Am using a Straight Talk sim (ATT) in my T-Mo Note Edge. Getting 8-15+ mb/s down...2-4 mb/s up (more than enough for me). Followed rooting method posted by TekHD. Did not see unlock procedure for T-Mo Edge.
T-Mo does hold your unlock hostage for 2+ months or $100 (didn't see this stated and argued). Unlocked through a reputable unlocker through fleabay (~$24 I think - Tmo also recommended...go figure).
Hope this helps.
Wish someone can release a qualcomm kernel w OC/UV/governors and thermal control soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2959522
[ROM] T-Mobile Note Edge SM-915T NJL Rooted Stock Deodexed Knox-disabled + AT&T Info
verks said:
I have been searching for an answer and have not gotten a clear and definitive answer. Does the T-Mobile Note Edge variant work on all AT&T LTE networks without issue after being unlocked? According to tbr Samsung website both models have the same bands with the t-mobile Edge have 2 additional bands
I have the att model but would really like to be part of the dev community. I have a week and a half to return my att model. I would buy the t-mobile model if it works completely on the networks. Anyone out there using a t-mobile Edge on ATT. Thanks
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Yes, Using one right now. You do not need to unlock it at all it will work right out of the box with an AT&T sim as will all T-Mobile Phones.. This has been a thing for years. There might be some obscure T-Mobile phones without perfect LTE Band or Data support. Every major model will work perfect with absolutely no unlock don't waste your money. I actually called T-Mobile before throwing my gophone sim into the Note Edge T-Mobile variant and cautiously asked if they will blacklist the imei of a phone that is using an AT&T sim. The T-Mobile representative kindly, calmly, and with conviction said that no you will not have your device blacklisted, and that all T-Mobile phones should work out of the box on AT&T. Enjoy not paying for an unlock code! I'll upload pictures of my note edge running AT&T data services via an AT&T gophone sim if you don't believe me. It actually put the APN information in for me automatically too! Meaning I did not have to enter in carrier specific AT&T APN, the software on the Note Edge T-Mo variant picked up the different carrier and entered the APN settings automatically. Woot woot
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Yes, Using one right now. You do not need to unlock it at all it will work right out of the box with an AT&T sim as will all T-Mobile Phones.. This has been a thing for years. There might be some obscure T-Mobile phones without perfect LTE Band or Data support. Every major model will work perfect with absolutely no unlock don't waste your money. I actually called T-Mobile before throwing my gophone sim into the Note Edge T-Mobile variant and cautiously asked if they will blacklist the imei of a phone that is using an AT&T sim. The T-Mobile representative kindly, calmly, and with conviction said that no you will not have your device blacklisted, and that all T-Mobile phones should work out of the box on AT&T. Enjoy not paying for an unlock code! I'll upload pictures of my note edge running AT&T data services via an AT&T gophone sim if you don't believe me. It actually put the APN information in for me automatically too! Meaning I did not have to enter in carrier specific AT&T APN, the software on the Note Edge T-Mo variant picked up the different carrier and entered the APN settings automatically. Woot woot
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strange. I have my att sim in a SM-N915T on 6.0.1 N915TUVS2DPG2 and it says network locked.
Do you guys think the Verizon unit will have the same LTE bands as the Play Store model? I can get these st 2yr contract pricing on my Verizon business account and would like to use one on AT&T service, but need to be sure Band 12/17 is unlocked and ready for use.
The answer is yes, there are only different frequency bands for the intl and US versions. The US version, which Verizon is selling, supports all major carriers, according to Google.
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The answer is yes, there are only different frequency bands for the intl and US versions. The US version, which Verizon is selling, supports all major carriers, according to Google.
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My only concern is that the Verizon website does not list all US LTE bands such as Band 12 or Band 17. This was an issue with my Note 7 also. Band 12/17 were capable and supported by the hardware, but Verizon locked these from being used. It wasn't until I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto my Verizon Note 7 unit that I was able to use those 2 LTE bands.
alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
alexjzim said:
alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
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This is 100% wrong. No Verizon phone's have been locked to the carrier for a few years now.
mdmogren said:
This is 100% wrong. No Verizon phone's have been locked to the carrier for a few years now.
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Correct they have been carrier unlocked since the iPhone 5 came out. Verizon still locks the LTE bands for data, however. The only phones that have unlocked LTE bands on Verizon are iPhones, because Verizon does not/cannot tamper with the firmware before boxing the phones up.
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Correct they have been carrier unlocked since the iPhone 5 came out. Verizon still locks the LTE bands for data, however. The only phones that have unlocked LTE bands on Verizon are iPhones, because Verizon does not/cannot tamper with the firmware before boxing the phones up.
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Evidence? I've had no problem using several verizon phones on T-Mobile LTE bands.
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Evidence? I've had no problem using several verizon phones on T-Mobile LTE bands.
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That is because Verizon uses the same bands as TMobile in many areas of the country, so those bands are unlocked. Verizon does not use AT&T's primary bands at all, so they lock it out. (Band 17)
As a quick example, AT&T uses Band 3 in more rural areas and I was able to catch a bar or two of LTE here and there on a 100% stock Verizon Note 7 with AT&T sim card in it since Verizon also uses Band 3, , but it would quickly fall back to HSPA because it lost band 3 signal. I verified this with LTE Discovery app. At my office I only have Band 17 from ATT, so I was only getting HSPA. As soon as I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto the Verizon Note 7, I had full LTE signal on Band 17.
Since Verizon cannot legally carrier SIM lock their devices anymore, they still do what they can to make the phones as unusable as possible on other carriers with their firmware, including a message that pops up every time you start the phone saying "this sim is not from Verizon"
I'm trying to figure out if the Pixel will be the same story as my Note 7, in which Verizon locks out a majority of LTE bands. And if so, can the Play Store version firmware be flashed onto thr Verizon version of the Pixel to unlock these bands?
The Snapdragon 821 supports all LTE bands so I know it won't be hardware limited, only firmware limited.
MrBaltazar said:
That is because Verizon uses the same bands as TMobile in many areas of the country, so those bands are unlocked. Verizon does not use AT&T's primary bands at all, so they lock it out. (Band 17)
As a quick example, AT&T uses Band 3 in more rural areas and I was able to catch a bar or two of LTE here and there on a 100% stock Verizon Note 7 with AT&T sim card in it since Verizon also uses Band 3, , but it would quickly fall back to HSPA because it lost band 3 signal. I verified this with LTE Discovery app. At my office I only have Band 17 from ATT, so I was only getting HSPA. As soon as I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto the Verizon Note 7, I had full LTE signal on Band 17.
Since Verizon cannot legally carrier SIM lock their devices anymore, they still do what they can to make the phones as unusable as possible on other carriers with their firmware, including a message that pops up every time you start the phone saying "this sim is not from Verizon"
I'm trying to figure out if the Pixel will be the same story as my Note 7, in which Verizon locks out a majority of LTE bands. And if so, can the Play Store version firmware be flashed onto thr Verizon version of the Pixel to unlock these bands?
The Snapdragon 821 supports all LTE bands so I know it won't be hardware limited, only firmware limited.
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The only reason LTE won't work on at&t is because at&t won't provision it unless it's an At&t branded phone. You can get around this by having them activte your sim in an at&t store phone. My brother used to have at&t and I gave him my old S7E from Verizon which had full LTE after doing that.
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The only reason LTE won't work on at&t is because at&t won't provision it unless it's an At&t branded phone. You can get around this by having them activte your sim in an at&t store phone. My brother used to have at&t and I gave him my old S7E from Verizon which had full LTE after doing that.
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That is correct IF there isn't a LTE capable IMEI on your AT&T account, you would need to have them add the LTE capable IMEI and provision LTE. This issue is based on Verizon's firmware and their lockdown, however. I have thoroughly tested this and even entered service mode to see what bands are available with Verizon firmware vs AT&T firmware.
not good news for the verizon pixel with att. Some guy on the pixel xl xda reported he is getting only H+ with the verizon pixel xl. Definitely need more people to check it out. Donr believe PC mag one bit. They said bootloader was unlocked but it turned out to be LOCKED.
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not good news for the verizon pixel with att. Some guy on the pixel xl xda reported he is getting only H+ with the verizon pixel xl. Definitely need more people to check it out. Donr believe PC mag one bit. They said bootloader was unlocked but it turned out to be LOCKED.
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I'm using a VZW Pixel XL on AT&T and I have the best reception I have ever had. I don't know why he's not getting LTE coverage, but that's not my experience whatsoever.
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I'm using a VZW Pixel XL on AT&T and I have the best reception I have ever had. I don't know why he's not getting LTE coverage, but that's not my experience whatsoever.
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If you install LTE Discovery you can see the band you're connected do. If the phone can connect to band 12 or 17, I would say the Verizon version most likely supports all LTE bands.
I am using a Verizon Pixel currently on a 850Mhz/1.9Ghz GSM and Band 4 (2.1Ghz) and I am experiencing no issues. I used my carrier's SIM, and the only thing I had to do differently was update the SCMS in the *#*#3646#*#* to match my carrier's Service Center ID. This allowed my SMS to work. I experience no issues here as the phone operates as though it were unlocked.
I've even used the VZW pixel on T-Mobile and had band 12 carrier aggregation with band 2. Definitely not a problem and same bands.
I believe the only difference is the imei disallows bootloader unlocking. And the post boot Verizon three app install (which is an easy uninstall)
Doesn't att require the imei added for LTE? They audit accounts on the regular and if they find an unknown imei they disallow LTE.
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I've even used the VZW pixel on T-Mobile and had band 12 carrier aggregation with band 2. Definitely not a problem and same bands.
I believe the only difference is the imei disallows bootloader unlocking. And the post boot Verizon three app install (which is an easy uninstall)
Doesn't att require the imei added for LTE? They audit accounts on the regular and if they find an unknown imei they disallow LTE.
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Thanks for posting, VZW wouldn't lock certain frequencies (12 and 17) on the Pixels like others have stated since their phones have been fully unlocked for years. This phone works with all US carriers.
jawmail said:
Thanks for posting, VZW wouldn't lock certain frequencies (12 and 17) on the Pixels like others have stated since their phones have been fully unlocked for years. This phone works with all US carriers.
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Yup and on top of that they seem 100% feature parity. I've even seen (on my Verizon sim) the option for volte video calling. And volte voice definitely works on T-Mobile as well as wifi calling.
Just the locked bootloader is the only downside.
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alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
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This is 100% incorrect. It is NOT locked to a carrier, and does support all bands. I have been using my VZW Pixel on other carriers.
TCPDump said:
This is 100% incorrect. It is NOT locked to a carrier, and does support all bands. I have been using my VZW Pixel on other carriers.
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Agreed, those customer service reps. need more training.
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Agreed, those customer service reps. need more training.
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The misinformation and confusion about this phone in general all the way around astounds me. It's actually rather simple. The only major difference in the Verizon variant from the play is that the bootloader is locked.
I am on AT&T in the US. I'd like to get the 6GB version. I haven't seen that it is being offered in the US. Anyone know if it will?
Assuming it will, ifs there any specific reason to purchase the US model over the international version? I would like to have a phone that will work on both Verizon and AT&T, as I may change carriers.
Any advice?
The Mate 9 will not work on Verizon nor Sprint. Its a GSM phone which means AT&T and Tmobile
If you're changing, then consider T-Mobile!
Not sure you guys realize Verizon uses SIM cards now too on some phones. Pixel XL is a sim card phone that was sold exclusively for a min through verizon, my friends have Nexus 6P on Verizon network. Sprint also uses a nano SIM on all their iPhones. Now the bands they support maybe different from a US version to a International.
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I'm waiting for the official US release in the scant hope of VZW radio support. (Not likely though)
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daraj said:
The Mate 9 will not work on Verizon nor Sprint. Its a GSM phone which means AT&T and Tmobile
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Oh, interesting. That is a caveat that throws the consideration less toward this phone.
Thanks for the replies.
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Not sure you guys realize Verizon uses SIM cards now too on some phones. Pixel XL is a sim card phone that was sold exclusively for a min through verizon, my friends have Nexus 6P on Verizon network. Sprint also uses a nano SIM on all their iPhones. Now the bands they support maybe different from a US version to a International.
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Yes, if you get a variant of the Mate 9 that supports Verizon's LTE bands it will likely work for LTE. However it will not support 3G, 1X, or voice (which are CDMA). The Pixel and Nexus 6P include CDMA support, which the Mate 9 does not.
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The Pixel and Nexus 6P include CDMA support, which the Mate 9 does not.
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The Kirin 960 natively supports CDMA. But whether or not it gets certified for use in the US in the Mate 9 is yet to be seen.
This is killing me. I'm on Sprint, I want this phone. I keep hearing multiple different things. I want to order an international one to have ordered one by the end of the year. I see multiple models (MHA-AL00 and MHA-L29) hoping something will work with CDMA (Sprint)
They likely won't bother supporting all the right frequencies unless VZ or Sprint brands the phone, which seems even less likely... VZ has been using sims since LTE rolled out but that isn't really the problem.
If you're on a AT&T or T-Mobile then who cares about the US model... The only benefit is that eventually there will be cheaper used phones in the US after 6+ months.
I have a MHA-AL00 (6gb, 128gb) from China and wish I had an AL29 as the Chinese support on unlocking the boot loader is terrible (e.g., I cannot get a code). AL29 is supported by one of the apps and also I believe local Huawei offices. Installing google play thankfully is not a problem but I'd be careful nonetheless on the AL00.
Verizon and Sprint
tosh1 said:
Not sure you guys realize Verizon uses SIM cards now too on some phones. Pixel XL is a sim card phone that was sold exclusively for a min through verizon, my friends have Nexus 6P on Verizon network. Sprint also uses a nano SIM on all their iPhones. Now the bands they support maybe different from a US version to a International.
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Verizon and Sprint only use SIM cards for international use, they had to use/include GSM in order for their phones to roam outside the US.
Hey I got this phone based on a sprint rep telling me that this would be able to be activated on their CDMA network. As I understand it, the Nexus can use GSM and CDMA. Is it because they dont have the proper MEIDs from LG in their system?
Is there any hope in getting this activated with Sprint, I have spent 6 hrs on the phone with different reps lol.
Thanks in advance..
Alakazamm said:
Hey I got this phone based on a sprint rep telling me that this would be able to be activated on their CDMA network. As I understand it, the Nexus can use GSM and CDMA. Is it because they dont have the proper MEIDs from LG in their system?
Is there any hope in getting this activated with Sprint, I have spent 6 hrs on the phone with different reps lol.
Thanks in advance..
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In the old days (last year) customer service could add your MEID to their database and activate. Now Sprint has to create what is called a click it ticket. This sends your request to the next level up to add your MEID. This could take up to 3 days. I am unsure if you still need a SIM card to access the LTE or not... The 5X and 6P need one.
The D821 is not made for North America. The North American model is d820.
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The D821 is not made for North America. The North American model is d820.
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So it cant be unlocked to lock with a LTE frequency that sprint uses? I've read about a few people having success but the 4g just didn't work. Thanks for your reply, I have been reading and on the phone for hours.
AFAIK, it can't be enabled for use on Sprint or Verizon.