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[Q] Captivate on Froyo 2.2

Only problem I have is that after I backed up on Back up pro like I always do & works fine, That it will not find the files, Would not restore for that reason, Im not to happy with the FROYO 2.2 thing, other than that it works good & fast.
Can some one help me on how to restore after the update
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I had the same issue....Back Up Pro could not find the apps. But I chalked it up to a different ROM. and reinstalled my apps the old fashioned way. I have since learned to list ny Apps so when I find the paid ones they will install.

So Im really worried about the data ? How can I get that, Is there another back up app better ? thats whats bothering me.

Use Titanium Backup. It now works with Froyo on the Captivate. Another option, for apps only, is to get an Appbrain account and sync your apps with Appbrain. That way, if the worst happens at least you can reinstall from there, but you won't have the data.

mobius911 said:
Use Titanium Backup. It now works with Froyo on the Captivate. Another option, for apps only, is to get an Appbrain account and sync your apps with Appbrain. That way, if the worst happens at least you can reinstall from there, but you won't have the data.
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AppBrain has been brilliant for app restores for me. That is one thing I always hated about flashing roms/doing resets, and although you still have to click through the permissions, it works great. The fast web installer is awesome too...

yeah i just use appbrain

Titanium Backup is Better
TB (Titanium Backup) is better to use because it can restore not just the app, but the data and settings as well. All AB (Appbrain) does is perform a reinstall of the app minus any data you may have created with the app.
A good example would be your email app. With TB you would get back all your email configuration and settings. While with AB, you would have to go through the process of setting up your email account info all over again as well as any other config settings.
If you use LauncherPro, you know how tedious it is to set it up just the way you like. Use TB and you get it back just the way you left it without having to go through the lengthy customization process.

ozone777 said:
TB (Titanium Backup) is better to use because it can restore not just the app, but the data and settings as well. All AB (Appbrain) does is perform a reinstall of the app minus any data you may have created with the app.
A good example would be your email app. With TB you would get back all your email configuration and settings. While with AB, you would have to go through the process of setting up your email account info all over again as well as any other config settings.
If you use LauncherPro, you know how tedious it is to set it up just the way you like. Use TB and you get it back just the way you left it without having to go through the lengthy customization process.
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Restore apps only. Do not restore data or it could cause incompatibility and fc's.
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Rhiannon224 said:
Restore apps only. Do not restore data or it could cause incompatibility and fc's.
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Chainfire (edit) Darkstriker told me the same in i9000 faq thread. He seemed to think it's discussed everywhere and obvious. Well I've read through at least a couple of the most recent active threads on the topic, and certainly it is not posted everywhere and is not obvious.
Can you point to a thread detailing specific instances of problems? All the problems I've read about are with SYSTEM DATA... widegets and SMS mostly. I have not found anyone mentioning problems with normal app data.
edit: and BTW three apps failing out of a couple of hundred is a big so what.. so long as un-install and re-install of those apps fix it without messing up the whole system. I thought it's pretty hard for a single app to do too much damage to the whole system in android.

Deleting Google Apps

Hi all. Quick question; searched and didn't find a response. So...
There are a few Google apps I'd really like to lose. Namely Play Books, Play Movies/TV, Play Newstand, and Play Games. I'm never going to use them, so I'd just as soon uninstall them. My question is can I uninstall these through Titanium Backup or are they crucial system apps that I should just leave alone and learn to live with?
Thanks!

You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course

experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I freeze every one of those apps with Titanium backup every time I install gaaps or return to stock. No issues with them frozen on N5 at all.

experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I never thought about that. Thanks! :highfive: I feel so dumb...

Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app

Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.

experience7 said:
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Jason_MCG said:
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.

experience7 said:
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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I would think most people who are active on these threads chose a nexus for ease of changing ROMS. I would lose my mind doing that without the pro version of TiBu. Have it anyway so used it. Also, freeze is nice because I can quickly thaw out a memory hog program, use it as I need to and then quickly refreeze it with all data in tact.

Aerowinder said:
The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Of course it is - bought it years ago.

You can delete any app with the full version of Titanium Backup.

But I'm pretty sure that you can disable them like I mentioned above and still receive OTA's Am I wrong?

Flashaholic - recommended backup/restore option

Curious what people recommend for restoring apps/data when wiping for ROMs. I don't wipe that often and usually just let Google play automatically restore my apps after going through my initial setup, then restore my nova launcher backup.
However I was thinking about trying a few different ROMs and was wondering I'd there is a better method.
Is titanium a sound solution? Should I just make a titanium backup and unselect the auto restore during the initial set up (so it doesn't auto download apps from Google play?) Then go to Google play download titanium and restore apps/data? Is this a good way or is there better?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Titanium. Be selective with what you restore though. Only the necessities.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Titanium. Be selective with what you restore though. Only the necessities.
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So do you recommend not having play store automatically download apps? Deselct auto restore and just download TiBackup and restoring from there.
What would you say are things to not restore?
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530farm said:
So do you recommend not having play store automatically download apps? Deselct auto restore and just download TiBackup and restoring from there.
What would you say are things to not restore?
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I don't have the play store automatically download my apps. It never worked right for me in the past so I just said eff it. I actually use an app called App List Backup which just makes a list of all your apps and gives you an easy way to redownload them all. I use Titanium for certain apps that have data that I don't want to lose, but that's about it nowadays. When I said be selective, I mean only restore user apps + their data and try to stay away from system things. If you start restoring all system data you can run into issues with stability. At least in the past there was always that potential. Only backup and restore things you absolutely must.

530farm said:
So do you recommend not having play store automatically download apps? Deselct auto restore and just download TiBackup and restoring from there.
What would you say are things to not restore?
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I use Titanium Backup as well. If you're not sure on what not to restore, the safest thing would be to backup your apps with TiBu before you flash. Next, have Google restore the apps for you on the new ROM. Then, you can use TiBu to only restore the data for the apps you have installed (or need data for).
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charesa39 said:
I use Titanium Backup as well. If you're not sure on what not to restore, the safest thing would be to backup your apps with TiBu before you flash. Next, have Google restore the apps for you on the new ROM. Then, you can use TiBu to only restore the data for the apps you have installed (or need data for).
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This is what I do as well.

530farm said:
Curious what people recommend for restoring apps/data when wiping for ROMs. I don't wipe that often and usually just let Google play automatically restore my apps after going through my initial setup, then restore my nova launcher backup.
However I was thinking about trying a few different ROMs and was wondering I'd there is a better method.
Is titanium a sound solution? Should I just make a titanium backup and unselect the auto restore during the initial set up (so it doesn't auto download apps from Google play?) Then go to Google play download titanium and restore apps/data? Is this a good way or is there better?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Titanium. Backup all user apps+data. Restore all the same way. Redownloading anything is a waste of bandwidth.

Aerowinder said:
Titanium. Backup all user apps+data. Restore all the same way. Redownloading anything is a waste of bandwidth.
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That's what I tried and seemed to work well. However the one "system app" I backed up was Hangouts in order to retain my SMS/MMS. I can restore it via TiB, however after the restore is complete TiB asks me to reboot, which I do, and upon reboot, the messages are no longer in hangouts. Any suggestion?

530farm said:
That's what I tried and seemed to work well. However the one "system app" I backed up was Hangouts in order to retain my SMS/MMS. I can restore it via TiB, however after the restore is complete TiB asks me to reboot, which I do, and upon reboot, the messages are no longer in hangouts. Any suggestion?
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I don't think that SMS/MMS are part of the Hangout app, but stored in a database at another location on your phone. Titanium has a SMS backup option (in the app list). I've never used it, so I don't know if it works with 4.4. But if it doesn't, there are plenty of apps that can.

530farm said:
That's what I tried and seemed to work well. However the one "system app" I backed up was Hangouts in order to retain my SMS/MMS. I can restore it via TiB, however after the restore is complete TiB asks me to reboot, which I do, and upon reboot, the messages are no longer in hangouts. Any suggestion?
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As Aerowinder stated, SMS/MMS are not actually part of Hangouts data, but are stored elsewhere. I believe there are two options to backup SMS/MMS data, but I've only used one, and it's worked every single time without fail. In TiBu, hit MENU on the top right. Then, scroll down where it says "Backup data to XML..." under Special Backup/Restore. It'll then give you the option to backup up your messages (SMS/MMS), Call log, or WiFi APs.
The other option is in the apps list under Backup/Restore like Aerowinder stated as well. I've never gone this route, but I'd imagine it works in the same way as it does through the Menu option. I think it even backs it up in XML format as well.

charesa39 said:
As Aerowinder stated, SMS/MMS are not actually part of Hangouts data, but are stored elsewhere. I believe there are two options to backup SMS/MMS data, but I've only used one, and it's worked every single time without fail. In TiBu, hit MENU on the top right. Then, scroll down where it says "Backup data to XML..." under Special Backup/Restore. It'll then give you the option to backup up your messages (SMS/MMS), Call log, or WiFi APs.
The other option is in the apps list under Backup/Restore like Aerowinder stated as well. I've never gone this route, but I'd imagine it works in the same way as it does through the Menu option. I think it even backs it up in XML format as well.
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Awesome! Great tip. I remember when restoring from "full back ups" it prompts me if I want to restore from Snapshot or XML, and says snapshot is more accurate. Do you know if there is a similar feature w/ snapshot?

530farm said:
Awesome! Great tip. I remember when restoring from "full back ups" it prompts me if I want to restore from Snapshot or XML, and says snapshot is more accurate. Do you know if there is a similar feature w/ snapshot?
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Hmm. I'm not sure about snapshot. I believe when you go to back it up, it gives you a choice of format to back it up as. If I remember correctly, the reason I chose XML is because it said it was more compatible/universal or something like that. Either way, I've never had any issues with XML. All my messages appeared the exact same as they were before I flashed, so I always go with XML since it hasn't failed me yet. :good:

[Q] backing up SMS

I've switched ROMs often in these past few days, and one of the few things that annoy me is that I lose my SMS every time. Is there a way to backup and restore? I thought of Titanium, but then I know it's not ideal to use Titanium after clean installs
Alex

alexm231 said:
I've switched ROMs often in these past few days, and one of the few things that annoy me is that I lose my SMS every time. Is there a way to backup and restore? I thought of Titanium, but then I know it's not ideal to use Titanium after clean installs
Alex
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I've always used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
Saves SMS messages to an xml file on the device.

surrealjam said:
I've always used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
Saves SMS messages to an xml file on the device.
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Looks to be exactly what I was after!
I should have thought to look around in the play store, I just never believed there would be a dedicated app for that.
Thanks for the help!
Alex

Titanium works great... I restore all my SMS and MMS all the time when flashing new ROMs. Never had an issue.
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There's no problem using titanium on clean installs but the onus is on the user to understand the difference between data/app data, system/app data and why clean installs are required in the first place.
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Titanium backup has an option in the menu to back up sms/mms to xml. Much cleaner than contact/phone data in normal backup options on there
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Yeah, careful who you listen to. Lol
Titanium backup is an amazing tool for flashers.
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Never had a problem restoring SMS/MMS from Titanium...

try Hover Chat ... it offers message backup and has a preety nice pop-up window for messages - I find that very useful
I use the PRO versions ( more skins )
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninja.sms.promo

rootSU said:
There's no problem using titanium on clean installs but the onus is on the user to understand the difference between data/app data, system/app data and why clean installs are required in the first place.
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Is that why on some roms the phone process FCs when I use titanium to restore sms/mms? I've been using titanium for quite a while now and experience this from time to time, but never took the time to look into it. The only thing that resolves the problem is throwing the phone into airplane mode and clearing the phone data I had just restored.

uodii said:
Is that why on some roms the phone process FCs when I use titanium to restore sms/mms? I've been using titanium for quite a while now and experience this from time to time, but never took the time to look into it. The only thing that resolves the problem is throwing the phone into airplane mode and clearing the phone data I had just restored.
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Yes I would suspect so.
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Farewell to titanium backup. Looking for alternative.

Hi.
Just had and upgrade from OnePlus 6t to OnePlus 7 pro. I was thinking, that it's gonna to be easy walk in the park using my old friend Titanium backup. Ow how I was wrong. I used "migrate system data" checkbox checked
Every third user app force closes after restore from titanium backup
All user settings bluetooth / wifi pairings was was not restored successfully. Didnt even tried messages and call logs, as I read in play store comments, that it's also a failure
Box.com backups of app got's corrupted. Downloaded backups verification fails with "error with properties of backup". In details it shows: has data:yes, has app:No. But folder size is same as on source system. Simple to test on single device: backup any app, upload to box.com. Uninstall app and delete it's backup. Sync back from box to titanium backup. And this app is not restoreable anymore. Same test succeeds with google drive. Wrote support, but no answer. Ended moving files between devices via oneplus file manager file dash.
Folder organizer labels does not work anymore
How I can backup and move titanium settings and labels from one device to another? "Auto sync tb settings" checkbox does not generate any file on source device for me
UI issues trimming part of the labels / texts
And it's not only me. See one of the most thanked comment on play store from 2019-03-18:
App data backup / restore works, but that's about it. * It only backs up the main .apk file in a split apk. Restoring a backup of split apk will most likely cause the app to crash.Google is pushing app bundles hard, so these will become more and more common. * It doesn't backup Messages / call logs correctly (DB location moved to /data/user_de/0 sometime in Kit-Kat? This backs up the old location) * Backups occasionally fail reporting no space left, despite having more than enough available * Lots of UI issues, such as dark text on dark buttons - nearly illegible * Developer is unresponsive to support emails
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I don't want to say farewell to my old beloved friend, but lack of support and such issues is not acceptable for me. Any recommendations for reliable backup app?

I think I found alternative: Swift backup.
Supports all new android features (split apks + permision restore). Also app has extremely active and supportive telegram group with app author in constant contact with users. Requested one feature, and it got implemented in a few moments!

I also now start running into hanging restores using trusty old Titanium Backup. So it stopped working properly. I indeed reckon it is due to split apks. So I am now also stuck wondering whether to ask for updating TB or move over to using something else. I will have a look at your found alternative, thanks.

Necrothreading here . But in 2020 Titanium still freezes on split APKs and doesn't support DE app data. I also took a look at Swift but immediately rejected it because it won't run even in a basic mode without GApps and a sign-in - useless when testing developer ROMs where the gapps might be broken.
Any other 2020 root backup solutions that work?

Those apps are not taken care because people don't root their phones nowadays. Would recommend you to use TWRP for backup.

had the same issue, but I fixed it with disabling this android setting: "Verify apps over USB". This setting is under system > developer options, so you will have to enabled developer mode..
I found this advice elsewhere, so I thought I'd put it here too. I'm looking for an alternative for titanium, (I'm happily using SMS Backup and Restore), but haven't found anything I like just yet.

Mr. Fitzie said:
had the same issue, but I fixed it with disabling this android setting: "Verify apps over USB". This setting is under system > developer options, so you will have to enabled developer mode..
I found this advice elsewhere, so I thought I'd put it here too. I'm looking for an alternative for titanium, (I'm happily using SMS Backup and Restore), but haven't found anything I like just yet.
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cash_h said:
Those apps are not taken care because people don't root their phones nowadays. Would recommend you to use TWRP for backup.
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Swift Backup
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Helium
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Swift is perfect
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Mr. Fitzie said:
had the same issue, but I fixed it with disabling this android setting: "Verify apps over USB". This setting is under system > developer options, so you will have to enabled developer mode...
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I disabled "Verify apps over USB" and it allowed my hanging restores to complete.
HOWEVER, the apps in question then crashed every time I tried to open them. So not truly a working solution.

dadnammit said:
I disabled "Verify apps over USB" and it allowed my hanging restores to complete.
HOWEVER, the apps in question then crashed every time I tried to open them. So not truly a working solution.
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did you take a look at logcat for details of the crash? I think I had similar issues, and it turns out I needed to change permissions/ownership on a single directory (/sdcard?). I had to do this once, and then all subsequent restores have been working fine. it's quite easy to do with "adb logcat" and then just try to start the app.
The best thing I did was not to try to restore everything on the new phone, but just selectively restore apps that I missed from the old phone over time. apps like signal/whatapp need specialized restore processes anyway due the encryption, and the storage of data outside of the app data location.
hth/

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SWIFT requires GAPPS. If you're trying to move away from Google, it won't work.
I have noticed on my own phone that Titanium Backup often does not restore the APK properly. However, I have had great success with it in restoring app data and I can always download and install the app from APKMonk, APKMirror F-Droid or my backup APK. Unfortunately, without GAPPS, the Titanium Backup PRO key will not work and the free app is too limiting. Titanium Backup does have the capability of using a license file and I have tried multiple times to contact the programmer to acquire or re-buy the license file but I have heard nothing back from them since I started pestering them a month ago, not from their TitaniumTrack website, not from the legacy page and not by direct email to Mr. Bourquard. I'm going to keep trying but there have been no updates to the app in Google Play since 24 Nov 2019 (the TitaniumTrack website has a change log but no update date). I hope he isn't dead ...

Shadeclan said:
SWIFT requires GAPPS. If you're trying to move away from Google, it won't work.
I have noticed on my own phone that Titanium Backup often does not restore the APK properly. However, I have had great success with it in restoring app data and I can always download and install the app from APKMonk, APKMirror F-Droid or my backup APK.
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The problem of apps with Split APK's makes it harder to make your own backup APK, and if you can't find the full APK on a mirror, you can be in trouble.
I have found a good solution using SAI ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aefyr.sai&hl=en&gl=US ).
I backup the app with TiB (which, as you say, does a good job still with the app data). And I backup the APKs with SAI. Between the two, I can rollback/restore/etcetera.

dadnammit said:
The problem of apps with Split APK's makes it harder to make your own backup APK, and if you can't find the full APK on a mirror, you can be in trouble.
I have found a good solution using SAI ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aefyr.sai&hl=en&gl=US ).
I backup the app with TiB (which, as you say, does a good job still with the app data). And I backup the APKs with SAI. Between the two, I can rollback/restore/etcetera.
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That's not a bad idea.
I recently migrated away from Google and have /e/OS loaded on my phone without GAPPS. I can use Aurora Store to access Google Play but SAI is also available in the /e/ store so I'll get it from there. I had looked at and rejected SAI because it doesn't save app data but I'll try combining the two.

I'm not sure why Swift Backup is not talked about more often. It's one of the best backup app out there. Way better than what Titanium offers.

Well, unfortunately Titanium hasn't been updated in ages...

simplydat said:
I'm not sure why Swift Backup is not talked about more often. It's one of the best backup app out there. Way better than what Titanium offers.
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Just wish the app would grab the data, too.

Shadeclan said:
Just wish the app would grab the data, too.
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I also search a new Backup ap and tried swift.
I tried it with some apps and the datas are also restored

deadmeiker said:
I also search a new Backup ap and tried swift.
I tried it with some apps and the datas are also restored
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As I explained earlier, Swift requires the Google Play store, which I purposely do not have installed on my phone.

Have you guys not heard of oandbackup ? It's not updated since 2019 but I think it does a pretty good job, the github page also mentions about how to restore the files manually and setting security context etc. I haven't tried it but I am about too.

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As I explained earlier, Swift requires the Google Play store, which I purposely do not have installed on my phone.
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It is no longer mandatory to have GApps, though it is still mandatory to sign to google account. You can still do local back up