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I want to know what the big difference between ics and jellybean that has everyone so razzled. I tried the jb tester from dax and I like it but.... it looks the same....
I am not sure what features are included in Jelly Bean in the ROM you're talking about.
However, main features are as below:
- Project Butter: Silky smooth UI and higher frame-rate, way less lag and freezing.
- New Notifications: The panel is way better, shows more details and is more interactive. eg. You can reply to an SMS from your notifications
- New Arrangement features: Widgets and icons make way for each other, so it's easier to move your stuff around and organize your home screens more efficiently
- Very minor improvements: Keyboard improvements, Better Play Store, Everything is more polished and cleaner
- Google Now: Swipe up on your lock screen and enter Google Now. Ask it how the weather's like, ask it how big a place is, you can even ask for pictures of dogs/cats or anything you like. You can ask it for a definition, and it'll read it out. If you ask for something it doesn't have a definitive answer for it'll always google it. You can ask it if there are Pizza places nearby, then Google will show you all the details of Pizza shops nearby. (Very cool feature)
Check Youtube videos for more information. But these are mainly the important functions and features.
Cheers
twadda218 said:
I want to know what the big difference between ics and jellybean that has everyone so razzled. I tried the jb tester from dax and I like it but.... it looks the same....
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You can get an overview here: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html.
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You can get an overview here: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html.
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Or you can just listen to this guy
A minor difference I have noticed is ICS was 4.0 and JB is 4.1
beny698 said:
A minor difference I have noticed is ICS was 4.0 and JB is 4.1
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Yeah that's the version number :good:.
Theonew said:
Yeah that's the version number :good:.
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I wonder which version of Android will include a sarcasm detector.
Fellahs if you're going to attack one another then find somewhere else to be. XDA is no place to act like 5 year olds!
I guess they also have a similiar framework according to CyanogenMod team...
Espicially porting...
There is no big difference???
I think ics and jb is same. There is no big difference between ics and jelly bean.
And some little bit features are included in jellybean. No lot of features is there in jelly bean.
Wait and see.....
ICS taste better IMO then a jellybean
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Jellybean > ICS
Extreme smoothness, Redesigned pull down drawer, Google Now, Partial app updates, resizable widgets, homescreen apps/widgets reallign themselves for when you are editing the homescreen and moving shortcuts, Right swipe from camera to access pics, offline voice dictation / maps, tweaked lockscreen, and a whole .1 number change
Are you Jelly...? Galaxy Nexus JB 4.1.1
theres some screenshots of some visible changes.
in youtube, your subscribed channels appear on right and you can swipe across to bring them up.
the new voice search
google now front page and weather card
notifications, i like the little jellybean for debugging
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theres some screenshots of some visible changes.
in youtube, your subscribed channels appear on right and you can swipe across to bring them up.
the new voice search
google now front page and weather card
notifications, i like the little jellybean for debugging
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oh and the resizable widgets. please note all those icons were on the bottom row but when i dragged the widget it moved them out of they way. cool new feature
Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
THIS THREAD IS FOR FIX BUGS OF SENSE BY KEEP USING SENSE INTERFACE NOT BY USING OTHERS HOME LAUNCHERS
light_n_roses said:
Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
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For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!
USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.
dariusz666 said:
USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.
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You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.
AW: Let's try to fix Jelly bean official ROM bugs !!!
This shouldn't be posted in the dev section.
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Anyways it should be continued here as it's not new.
Darknites said:
You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.
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But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.
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But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.
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Its not the best but if you want to keep JB Sense then thats all you can do for mass storage.
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
Closed Source Project said:
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.
Closed Source Project said:
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.
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If I would have fixed those bugs/things by using another launcher first of all I would have NOT open this thread and second I would have NOT bought an HTC device in the first place. I like sense and I want to keep using it, also I think that a lot of people think the same. If you want to use CWD or something like that you are free to do that and nobody has invited you here.
P.S. I apologize for posting in the wrong section
Maverick87Shaka said:
For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!
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I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??
light_n_roses said:
I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??
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Try jelly bean keyboard pro, no lag at all and you can choose the size of the keys and the keyboard
Hi,
On top of that mentioned, I'm working with Hebrew UI and not the only one who faced a FC on the calendar when trying to enter/change a meeting with a recipient.
The same procedure while on English UI is all fine.
Already opened a help ticket which was already escalated to the technical support as BUG.
In terms of official roms, I see no benefit with JB over say, ViperS 1.2.1 (ICS).
In fact, I think its inferior in almost every way (things like no USB Mass storage mode etc).
I ran stock ICS for quite a long time (compared to what I normally do) and was quite happy with it, nothing particularly wrong with it.
Then came the JB OTA, and the forums got flooded with issues :silly:
I'm going to format my phone to see if then the keyboard keep lagging...I just need some times to do that...
Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?
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Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?
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when you connect the phone to the PC you will see that device on the pc explorer and by entering in it you can access the drive but you cannot connect it as a removable disk...indeed this is disappointing
By the way I have erased all the data and reset the phone completely, now the keyboard it's a little better, less lag but still worst of the one on ICS
well the keyboard is pretty much the same..a little better but still laggy, I want the old back!!
Well considering we have a good month to actually play with our phones before any real custom development begins, we could use this time to come up with ideas that would be great to have on custom ROM's specifically for the Galaxy S4. I myself believe the next two years are gonna be insane and month is nothing compared to the fun we are all about to have!
So let's hear, what do you want your GS4 to do that it can't do right now. I personally would like to see someone make use of air wave more effectively and air view.
I just want some SlimBean love.
4.2.2. Stock. That's all I want.
I want to be able to change themes on my phone with EASE!
Mass delete of the 14.7 million crapware apps that come pre-installed....
just to be able to mod the hell out of it battery,clock,wifi,themes etc.....have kick ass kernal with kick ass battery life...
Cyanogen.
a lag reduction of 290%
I'm going to be developing a slimmed down Touchwiz rom with an AOSP feel but keep the TW framework for camera and other misc features. Samsung does add quite a few software enhancements that are nice to have that AOSP will break.
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I'm going to be developing a slimmed down Touchwiz rom with an AOSP feel but keep the TW framework for camera and other misc features. Samsung does add quite a few software enhancements that are nice to have that AOSP will break.
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This is what I can't wait for
Ongoing Wifi Notification removed and change the Phone dialer from the playskool looking white to dark theme. Other than that I am happy with TW till we get AOSP...:highfive:
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I'm going to be developing a slimmed down Touchwiz rom with an AOSP feel but keep the TW framework for camera and other misc features. Samsung does add quite a few software enhancements that are nice to have that AOSP will break.
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Exactly what I was hoping for. There's no point in buying a phone with so many "exclusive features" and immediately flashing CM and having the exact same user experience you had on your last phone. I mean, do I love AOSP? Of course I do. But why not try to get the best of both worlds? Can't wait for it, akira!
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Keep stock touchwiz with aosp speed, also in the notification switches, the ability for flashlight, and play and next media buttons, also thumbs up/down button if possible
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I am generally happy with my S4. Screen is great, the features I am interested in, Navigation, Translation (sTranslate), tethering ( I am on the plan), Bluetooth, and many others working. I am waiting until my 2 week return period is over before rooting and then debloating. I am using Nova launcher and have had no problems with lag. I did find that the home button with the smaller lower bezel than my SIII sometimes causes me to hit one of the dock icons; will require getting used to. Here is what I don't like and would like to see change:
1.The phone dialer. the white is awful
2. Contacts. Also in white, awful
3. Battery icon. Would love to be able to change it.
4. I personally like the 4.1 lockscreen with weather and time. I installed dashclock and used that a one of my Lockscreen widgets but still am not happy. I would love to see the opportunity to change the lockscreen style and type.
I am sure that I will find others, but that is it for now.
All Samsung features with the look & customization of AOKP, PA, Rootbox or Xylon.
idea of the year right here
and i can't believe it wasn't implemented by samsung and shown off at all the demos..
almost every website on the net today incorporates hovering the mouse to expand menus, show list options, features, toggle content, etc
this i would argue is THE biggest shortcoming of not just android, but all mobility today. there's no solid solution to imitate this on a mobile phone.
the galaxy s4 is the first phone which can overcome this shortcoming with its ability to support scree hovering. but what did Samsung choose to implement instead? a zoom in option baked into their stock browser .. which they removed flash support for, crippling one of the biggest breakthroughs in mobile innovation we've seen yet.
any developer who implements this will make front page of xda for sure
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Extended desktop mode, the status bar takes up to much screen real estate. Pie controls love them on my nexus 4!
Id love to be able to re-map the double-click of the home button. More options to edit toggles. No need to have that many toggles Im never going to use. Dark themes throughout UI. More apps that can be utilized in Multi window. Using the calculator with the browser or banking apps for example. Swipe the status bar for brightness control, no need to have the slider taking up space in the notification drawer. Swipe between tabs on phone app, same in any other tabbed touchwiz apps. Let me use Wallet dammit!
Love the idea of AOSP/touchwiz mashup. There actually are some features Id like to keep. Too bad Samsung's design team is still stuck on Gingerbread aesthetics...
Remote
A cool feature would be a timed t.v. remote to go off say at 6:30 to wake me up for school
Some PA love would be ideal! DPI changes are necessary with this awesome screen! Plus PIE and Halo would be awesome to have! Oh and remapping of hw buttons is a must for me.
Complete newbie here. After a lot of reading how-to's here and other sites, I managed to migrate from the stock to CM10.1 (JB 4.2).
Like almost everything except the rough 'screen scrolling stutter' for example in facebook, browser etc. The stock ROM on most devices (for example my other LG escape with android 4.0.4) seem to be buttery smooth. Is there a setting (would that be some kind of h/w acceleration?) or something to make it smooth?
Though I love the new ROM, this is almost becoming a deal breaker and makes me want to go back to the stock rom.
Thanks for any help.
ps: Sometimes, it is so bad that when I flick the screen up, it would try to go up and then rebound downwards...
What version of cm 10.1 are you on? You might try the latest nightly. If your browser is chrome, it seems to be an issue with chrome, others have reported that problem. I'm on the 7/25 nightly and it's running well. I don't use chrome though.
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Complete newbie here. After a lot of reading how-to's here and other sites, I managed to migrate from the stock to CM10.1 (JB 4.2).
Like almost everything except the rough 'screen scrolling stutter' for example in facebook, browser etc. The stock ROM on most devices (for example my other LG escape with android 4.0.4) seem to be buttery smooth. Is there a setting (would that be some kind of h/w acceleration?) or something to make it smooth?
Though I love the new ROM, this is almost becoming a deal breaker and makes me want to go back to the stock rom.
Thanks for any help.
ps: Sometimes, it is so bad that when I flick the screen up, it would try to go up and then rebound downwards...
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Try fixing permissions and then wipe dalvik/cache. if that don't work, redownload the newest nightly, CHECK MD5, reinstall
I flashed the stock 4.1 ROM back. It was not all that different from a scrolling smoothness perspective. So it seems that the other phone (LG escape) is doing a better job either by s/w (most likely) or h/w.
Given that, I moved away from the stock again, this time to slimbean, and I like it better than the cyanogenmod.
Thanks.
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I flashed the stock 4.1 ROM back. It was not all that different from a scrolling smoothness perspective. So it seems that the other phone (LG escape) is doing a better job either by s/w (most likely) or h/w.
Given that, I moved away from the stock again, this time to slimbean, and I like it better than the cyanogenmod.
Thanks.
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care to mention what was that you like slimbean better than cyanogenmod 10.1
Slimbean vs Cyanogenmod on the Skyrocket
raptorddd said:
care to mention what was that you like slimbean better than cyanogenmod 10.1
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I would say more tasteful/minimalistic customization options. As a very small example choosing to display the battery percentage does not unnecessarily show a battery icon in addition, and also it was customizable to be of different colors while charging/not charging...
More importantly, the notification light via the hardware keys worked on slim bean and not with the cyanogen. This was nice since the skyrocket does not have a dedicated notification light.
Other differences I saw include:
1) The HDR option in the camera is missing in the slimbean, but that is understandable probably since there is no stock HDR option on the camera, and the HDR option that the cyanogenmod came with did not account for even tiny handshake and was unusable.
2) Asking to upgrade to the prime launcher (for $4) was a bit of a bummer with the slimbean. Only the upgrade allows to hide apps etc.
3) On slimbean, press and hold a app icon gives you a small menu to edit/remove/uninstall which is nice.
4) One slightly annoying thing on the slimbean however is the wake up delay after the screen turns off. I have a thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383338
5) On slimbean, I also like being able to turn off the screen by long pressing the menu button (configurable) instead of reaching for the power button.
6) The APN settings on cyanogen worked right out of the box, whereas on the slimbean I had to add a new APN and choose that to get data connection.
panny2 said:
I would say more tasteful/minimalistic customization options. As a very small example choosing to display the battery percentage does not unnecessarily show a battery icon in addition, and also it was customizable to be of different colors while charging/not charging...
More importantly, the notification light via the hardware keys worked on slim bean and not with the cyanogen. This was nice since the skyrocket does not have a dedicated notification light.
Other differences I saw include:
1) The HDR option in the camera is missing in the slimbean, but that is understandable probably since there is no stock HDR option on the camera, and the HDR option that the cyanogenmod came with did not account for even tiny handshake and was unusable.
2) Asking to upgrade to the prime launcher (for $4) was a bit of a bummer with the slimbean. Only the upgrade allows to hide apps etc.
3) On slimbean, press and hold a app icon gives you a small menu to edit/remove/uninstall which is nice.
4) One slightly annoying thing on the slimbean however is the wake up delay after the screen turns off. I have a thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383338
5) On slimbean, I also like being able to turn off the screen by long pressing the menu button (configurable) instead of reaching for the power button.
6) The APN settings on cyanogen worked right out of the box, whereas on the slimbean I had to add a new APN and choose that to get data connection.
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Tbh you just don't know what you're doing. A simple kernel and launcher switch will cover most of those differences.
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xcrazydx said:
Tbh you just don't know what you're doing.
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Please read the OP.
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/newbie
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Please read the OP.
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/newbie
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Like I said, do some more reading. Your issues are simple things.
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1) The HDR option in the camera is missing in the slimbean, but that is understandable probably since there is no stock HDR option on the camera, and the HDR option that the cyanogenmod came with did not account for even tiny handshake and was unusable.
2) Asking to upgrade to the prime launcher (for $4) was a bit of a bummer with the slimbean. Only the upgrade allows to hide apps etc.
3) On slimbean, press and hold a app icon gives you a small menu to edit/remove/uninstall which is nice.
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As to 1-HDR isn't really possible with the Skyrocket's hardware due to its slow shutter speed.
As to 2-It would be extremely unethical, and probably illegal (not a lawyer, so I can't say for certain) for any developer to distribute the paid version of an app in a release without compensating said app developer for the distribution.
As to 3-Install Nova on CM and you get that option back.
Really don't understand what all the fuss is about re. the release of Lollipop. When looking at some of the options under "Settings", for example, there are some things that are missing that KitKat had. Selecting the font you wanted to use, for example. Seems like there are less options to control your phone.
Maybe there are some other things under the hood that make Lollipop better, but I'm not seeing it on the surface!
There are somewhat less options now but its a different look and feel. Folks get bored and need something new.
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Really don't understand what all the fuss is about re. the release of Lollipop. When looking at some of the options under "Settings", for example, there are some things that are missing that KitKat had. Selecting the font you wanted to use, for example. Seems like there are less options to control your phone.
Maybe there are some other things under the hood that make Lollipop better, but I'm not seeing it on the surface!
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Simple answer is no.
Loss of xposed framework support is huge too.
MaverickCoast said:
Really don't understand what all the fuss is about re. the release of Lollipop. When looking at some of the options under "Settings", for example, there are some things that are missing that KitKat had. Selecting the font you wanted to use, for example. Seems like there are less options to control your phone.
Maybe there are some other things under the hood that make Lollipop better, but I'm not seeing it on the surface!
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I'd have to agree that , no, there isn't anything magical about it really. I like the look, but something similar could easily be achieved with the proper themeing/ROM combo. The animations are nice, but I usually turn them off anyways. There may be some "under the hood" changes but nothing that will drastically change the user experience. Honestly, I think smartphones as a whole have hit a plateau. Minus some tweaks here and there, nothing really innovative has come along in some time. Perhaps the industry rushed towards advancement too fast. I think this is evidenced by the fact that how many pixels a manufacturer can cram into a screen, how awesome a selfie camera is and now animation styles have become selling points. Just my opinion though.
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I'd have to agree that , no, there isn't anything magical about it really. I like the look, but something similar could easily be achieved with the proper themeing/ROM combo. The animations are nice, but I usually turn them off anyways. There may be some "under the hood" changes but nothing that will drastically change the user experience. Honestly, I think smartphones as a whole have hit a plateau. Minus some tweaks here and there, nothing really innovative has come along in some time. Perhaps the industry rushed towards advancement too fast. I think this is evidenced by the fact that how many pixels a manufacturer can cram into a screen, how awesome a selfie camera is and now animation styles have become selling points. Just my opinion though.
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Looks like the unlocked developer edition m8 getting the lollipop today.
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Call me a cranky old man. I don't like Lollipop. Have it running on my Nexus 7 (FHD) and another device I'm testing. Just a few things I don't like:
1. Used to be easy to EITHER swipe for notifications OR quicksettings, now what used to be simple takes at least two-taps
2. The dialogue for which app to use is at the bottom of the screen and looks like it's "falling off" the screen instead of in the middle.
3. Really not happy about the need to decrypt on boot (for some devices). It's just too darn easy for someone with evil intent to completely wipe another person's device "just for a hoot."
4. I do not see a speed increase with ART that makes it worth losing Xposed Framework.
5. Material design does not require Lollipop; it's just window-dressing and styling.
That's just off the top of my head. Every couple of days have to put the test device down and return to my M8 for the look and feel I like.
Newer isn't always better.
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Call me a cranky old man. I don't like Lollipop. Have it running on my Nexus 7 (FHD) and another device I'm testing. Just a few things I don't like:
1. Used to be easy to EITHER swipe for notifications OR quicksettings, now what used to be simple takes at least two-taps
2. The dialogue for which app to use is at the bottom of the screen and looks like it's "falling off" the screen instead of in the middle.
3. Really not happy about the need to decrypt on boot (for some devices). It's just too darn easy for someone with evil intent to completely wipe another person's device "just for a hoot."
4. I do not see a speed increase with ART that makes it worth losing Xposed Framework.
5. Material design does not require Lollipop; it's just window-dressing and styling.
That's just off the top of my head. Every couple of days have to put the test device down and return to my M8 for the look and feel I like.
Newer isn't always better.
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Specifically relating to your first point, I'm not sure what you mean. On Lollipop, you can pull down the notifications menu with a single finger or go straight to quick settings with 2 fingers. Just like Jellybean and KitKat. If you use the single finger swipe down to access notifications on Lollipop, you can simply swipe down again to access quick settings. On JB/KK, you had to tap a button to get to quick settings after pulling down the notification shade with 1 finger. Since the 2-finger gesture to go straight to quick settings still works in Lollipop, I'm really not sure I understand what's so inconvenient about how it's implemented vs JB & KK.
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Specifically relating to your first point, I'm not sure what you mean. On Lollipop, you can pull down the notifications menu with a single finger or go straight to quick settings with 2 fingers. Just like Jellybean and KitKat. If you use the single finger swipe down to access notifications on Lollipop, you can simply swipe down again to access quick settings. On JB/KK, you had to tap a button to get to quick settings after pulling down the notification shade with 1 finger. Since the 2-finger gesture to go straight to quick settings still works in Lollipop, I'm really not sure I understand what's so inconvenient about how it's implemented vs JB & KK.
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Sometimes the other three fingers are busy ?
One thing that kinda bugs me is that the notifications overlay the top part of the screen so if you are trying to type there (chrome) and someone is texting you like crazy it gets annoying quick.
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Specifically relating to your first point, I'm not sure what you mean. On Lollipop, you can pull down the notifications menu with a single finger or go straight to quick settings with 2 fingers. Just like Jellybean and KitKat. If you use the single finger swipe down to access notifications on Lollipop, you can simply swipe down again to access quick settings. On JB/KK, you had to tap a button to get to quick settings after pulling down the notification shade with 1 finger. Since the 2-finger gesture to go straight to quick settings still works in Lollipop, I'm really not sure I understand what's so inconvenient about how it's implemented vs JB & KK.
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Well smack me upside the head. Had no idea about the two-fingered pull down.....
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I think it's great. I'm running stock Lollipop (GPE), not the Fauxpop that just got released today for the international M8. KitKat is just the latest build of what started in 2011, about three and a half years ago. With Lollipop, we're living in 2015. It's really a lot of little things, though. ICS was, too, when it was new. The big changes came with Jellybean.
Regarding Xposed, none of the blame for that is on Lollipop. The Xposed developer had, I don't know, but I'm sure it was over a year, probably more, since ART came out, to get it working. He/They wanted to wait for the release of Lollipop to port it to ART. Now, having had all this time, it's all on them. But if Xposed was that good, and Xposed was open source, where's the community in porting it to ART on their behalf? Seems to me that not that many people even want Xposed. The supply follows the demand. Google isn't lifting the smallest finger to fight Xposed. They don't care. And apparently neither do the developers. Or maybe Lollipop's market share is too small. Last I heard, it was still under 0.1%.
Yeah, Lollipop's great. I might sooner go back to KitKat than switch to an iPhone, but vs switching to Windows Phone I might have to think about it. Realistically on my M8, I'm never going back to Android 4.x. It isn't worth considering. It's like, why would you go back to Windows XP? Sure, it was stable, but so is 7. So is 8.1. Hell, even the 10 tech preview is good enough for most people. Why would you go backwards? Or to put it another way, why would you make your phone all retro? Retro games are cool. Retro cars are cool. And retro music, or more precisely, classic rock, is cool. But personal computer operating software? Not just no but hell no. Give me the latest code I can safely and securely run.
Seriously... HTC One M8... On Verzion... Running the GPE... I have the best phone, on the best network, running the best software. I envy no phone... okay, the Nexus 6 just a little, but it's too big. M8's a little too big. I think the HTC vanity bar should have been at the top. Better thumb reach. But really, nobody's got it better.
no worries, lollipop will be great
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