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Just found this on reddit, it will be interesting if it really happens. I would be interested to know XDA's thoughts on this rumor.
http://www.geek.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition-to-be-announced-at-google-io-1555174/
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Fantastic! Lets wait and see if it is true.
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I hope they give us the option to flash this ROM with Odin for i9505/i9500 in the future.
Wow, this would be fantastic.
The SGS4 GE would stop people *****ing about TW, s/w, lag, and 9GB of available storage.
The SGS4 Activ would stop the people *****ing about the display cracking.
The SGS4 Zoom would stop the people *****ing about the camera.
Something for everyone.
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Wow, this would be fantastic.
The SGS4 GE would stop people *****ing about TW, s/w, lag, and 9GB of available storage.
The SGS4 Activ would stop the people *****ing about the display cracking.
The SGS4 Zoom would stop the people *****ing about the camera.
Something for everyone.
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The SGS4 Ultimate would combine all of the above to stop people biching about all of the above.
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The SGS4 Ultimate would combine all of the above to stop people biching about all of the above.
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Add metal construction to it and it would be the perfect phone. And probably $1,000 USD.
If this releases tomorrow and is updated by Google, that will be my next phone for sure. Although I'm not sure if I would miss the features Samsung added to touch wiz.
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msavic6 said:
If this releases tomorrow and is updated by Google, that will be my next phone for sure. Although I'm not sure if I would miss the features Samsung added to touch wiz.
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Why not just stay on the TouchWiz version and hope for a dualboot kernel? That way you could enjoy the best of both worlds. A perfect aosp rom would be amazing and might even make some of the cyanogenmod devs come back.
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Why not just stay on the TouchWiz version and hope for a dualboot kernel? That way you could enjoy the best of both worlds. A perfect aosp rom would be amazing and might even make some of the cyanogenmod devs come back.
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That would be awesome, I'm very excited for tomorrow.
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And i hope its the 9500 version....
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And i hope its the 9500 version....
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Doubt it'll be an Exynos variant as that would require a lot of work from Samsung. Releasing an AOSP version of the i9505 would allow them to piggyback on Google/Cyanogenmod.
Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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The rumours have it pegged for a release on AT&T. And none of the above matters as it isn't a nexus device.
JaeKay said:
Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
First of all, their software and hardware dont match.
1) Google is promoting software buttons, and the Galaxy s4 has capacitive + a hardware home button
2) Google is promoting the discontinuation of the menu button, and instead opts for a separate multitasking button
3) Google hates SD cards and external memories.
And secondly, Samsung has no reason to do this....
Samsung already controls most of the Android market, and most Android users dont care about AOSP or stock or whatever.
Also, selling through Google wont really help them with their profit either.
If it does happen tho, please have it on Verizon
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Very invalid arguments.
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Pretty sure this is never going to happen.
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It's a rumor so you could be right. But there's some logic in it. If what the story OP posted is true it's not a Nexus phone; it's a special edition of what's likely going to be the best selling device of 2013 in "pure" form from the world's largest Android device manufacturer.
It's good for Samsung because:
It's positive press and shows Google and Samsung are a "team" damping all the "stake through the heart" stories.
Addresses Samsung's perceived lack of support for "enthusiasts" (EG: dev community).
Introduces another SGS4 variant that addresses the needs/wants of a sliver of the market further increasing SGS4 sales.
It'll cost them next to nothing to produce and support.
It's good for Google because:
It's positive press and shows Google and Samsung are a "team" damping all the "stake through the heart" stories.
Samsung releasing a non-TW device shows their support for native Android and Google's not on the hook for contractual commitments and added time to market like with the Nexus program.
The more support for Android the better.
Google's a business. This would be good for business. That, to me, supersedes fixed storage and on-screen navigation keys. This isn't much different than what HTC/T-Mobile did when they released the Desire Z as the T-Mobile G2. It was the same phone sans the overlay and marketed as "pure Google." This would be a more dramatic announcment than Motorola's XFON with last year's specs that been rumored for I/O. We'll know soon enough.
Wonder if the software is pure android (no touchwiz) if Samsung will still **** with the screen brightness based on the color of what is being displayed on the screen or if this version would actually be brighter than the touchwiz version
We will find out today
I really like Touchwiz it looks beautiful but I also love AOSP rom:laugh:
Sadly this version will only be available to developers as SamMobile has stated.
I'm not completely sure in which ways a normal everyday user could profit from this?
Maybe all XDA'ers will eventually turn into developers?
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If they do release such a phone, it would surely be ported to the normal variants easily as they have the same hardware. So, if it does happen, it would be a very good thing.
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So, we all know that Google Play Editions of devices come with completely stock Android. However, with the new Moto X confirmed to have a similar version in the works, I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were about it. Since it's a Google and Motorola made device, would it just be a normal Moto X but free of carrier bloatware, or would it be a Nexus experience (sans all the voice control, camera, and notifications)??
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So, we all know that Google Play Editions of devices come with completely stock Android. However, with the new Moto X confirmed to have a similar version in the works, I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were about it. Since it's a Google and Motorola made device, would it just be a normal Moto X but free of carrier bloatware, or would it be a Nexus experience (sans all the voice control, camera, and notifications)??
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Maybe bumping a dead thread that I found from google, but I think it'd be a nexus experience. e.g. stock 4.2 framework/camera and motorola valueadds removed.
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Maybe bumping a dead thread that I found from google, but I think it'd be a nexus experience. e.g. stock 4.2 framework/camera and motorola valueadds removed.
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I'm wondering if it would come with anything related to the always-listening capabilities. That's a very "Google" thing to do, and doesn't require anything that wouldn't be present in the hardware. Kind of like how the GPE for the S4 and One retain their IR blaster capabilities.
I think it would be stupid not to have the always listening, on screen notifications and the quick camera access features. The two dedicated processors would go to waste! Maybe it'll have an option to disable them, though, for people who need extreme battery life.
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I think it would be stupid not to have the always listening, on screen notifications and the quick camera access features. The two dedicated processors would go to waste! Maybe it'll have an option to disable them, though, for people who need extreme battery life.
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Yeah, and like Tatanko said, it's not as if the hardware would be taken out of the device. Even better battery life, maybe even approaching Maxx-like longevity (wishful thinking of a Canadian longing for Moto's extended battery life ) would be awesome.
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but why are there not any ROMs for the SM-P9000, I mean this tablet has been out for several months and there is still nothing? Not complaining, just curious...
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but why are there not any ROMs for the SM-P9000, I mean this tablet has been out for several months and there is still nothing? Not complaining, just curious...
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It costs too much and has a very small user base.
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Hmm... Makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
acejavelin said:
Hmm... Makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
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The price is dropping-slowly. Maybe once the prices drop to a more reasonable rate, folks will buy it and more interest will grow in building Roms. I bought mine the second day it arrived on Verizon, just glad that the Verizon version finally got rooted and I was able to install my Root-Only apps and Xposed.
I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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Yup! Can't wait until we either get Safestrap or break the Bootloader so we can have Custom Kernels....but for right now-I'm ok with it. It runs so much better since I've removed all the bloatware.
Also, there is a few really great market apps that supplement the multi window and add most other apps too.
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Yeah the only thing I wish I could do is customize the look of the notification and quick settings shade. Wanam is only partially helpful with this (increased the number of quick tiles thats about it).
I primarily use the tablet in landscape mode and it irks the crap out of me that the entire screen isn't utilized. Having the screen underneath visible on the left and right quarters of the screen is meaningless to me when they're forcing me to scroll vertically through notifications due to lack of width so I'd like to either reduce the font sizes in the shade (system wide LCD density screws up stock keyboard) or have more flexibility on the layout.
muzzy996 said:
...system wide LCD density screws up stock keyboard...
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Have you tried app settings module in xposed? You could change system DPI and then use this module to change any app DPI back to default if they don't behave.
Yeah if memory serves this fixed full sized landscape keyboard layout but there were other issues with the other modes of the keyboard. It's been a while though, are you using it that way?
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I use that module to lower DPI for some apps. Many system apps don't look good at custom resolution.
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I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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Except that Touchwiz is still annoying to deal with and bogs down the system. Even with a pretty high clock dual-quad-core processor, I still experience some stutters and "slow" app launches, etc.
Custom ROMs or a stock ROM for this tablet while keeping pressure sensitivity for the S Pen in tact would be amazing. Not to mention that this tablet doesn't get horrible battery life, but it would far better running a more stock experience with something like Franco Kernel.
It's pretty disappointing that this tablet is basically zero dev support, but it's not surprising since it's such a niche tablet. Most consumers don't want a huge tablet, plus the price tag is pretty high. With a screen this large, it also makes sense to have an actual keyboard, which adds even more to the cost.
This tablet would be even more amazing with dev support, but don't hold your breath because it likely will never get any love. We'd be lucky to get a single stable custom ROM project before this becomes a piece of "outdated" kit.
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Except that Touchwiz is still annoying to deal with and bogs down the system. Even with a pretty high clock dual-quad-core processor, I still experience some stutters and "slow" app launches, etc.
Custom ROMs or a stock ROM for this tablet while keeping pressure sensitivity for the S Pen in tact would be amazing. Not to mention that this tablet doesn't get horrible battery life, but it would far better running a more stock experience with something like Franco Kernel.
It's pretty disappointing that this tablet is basically zero dev support, but it's not surprising since it's such a niche tablet. Most consumers don't want a huge tablet, plus the price tag is pretty high. With a screen this large, it also makes sense to have an actual keyboard, which adds even more to the cost.
This tablet would be even more amazing with dev support, but don't hold your breath because it likely will never get any love. We'd be lucky to get a single stable custom ROM project before this becomes a piece of "outdated" kit.
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I hope we get cyanogenmod at least. hate touchqiz.
kirbymaster101 said:
I hope we get cyanogenmod at least. hate touchqiz.
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I have owned the Note 8.0, the Note 10.1 2014, and now the Note Pro 12.2. I do not understand why some one spends the extra money for a device with the S Pen and then wants a rom that will make the S Pen utterly useless. Besides that, The Note 8.0 did get Cyanogenmod but the Note 10.1 2014 has not as yet gotten anything but customized Touchwiz roms.
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I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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nrage23 said:
I have owned the Note 8.0, the Note 10.1 2014, and now the Note Pro 12.2. I do not understand why some one spends the extra money for a device with the S Pen and then wants a rom that will make the S Pen utterly useless. Besides that, The Note 8.0 did get Cyanogenmod but the Note 10.1 2014 has not as yet gotten anything but customized Touchwiz roms.
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I agree 100%. Whenever, people ask me for my opinion as to what tablet to get (or rather should they get what i have - either the note 8.0 or the note pro) I actually tend to steer them away from the note series. I explain to them that if they are not going to use the S-Pen extensively then they should get another tablet with better specs (one that is more optimized for gaming or watching video). As far as I'm concerned the S-Pen is the selling point of the Note series tablets - so why render it useless or even limit the capabilities of it with a Rom that would do that?
P.S. In regards to getting a tablet optimized for gaming or watching video I just picked up a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (for my wife) from Best Buy. I wasn't really in the market for another tablet but they have a deal where you can trade in your working tablet (that's in their database) and get $50 off (or even more if the value of it is worth more) plus another $50 off toward the purchase of a Galaxy Tab S tablet. They will allow up to two tablets to trade in. Since my wife and I both had HTC Flyers lying around collecting dust we decided to trade them in. Combined with other Best Buy discounts I got a total of $171 off . Because of this it made me just purchase it (did I say it was for my wife:laugh The display is stunning.
I haven't owned a Note device prior to this one, but I doubt that devs are incapable of rummaging through Samsung's code and finding the bits that pertain to S Pen functionality. The sensors are built into the device--the rest is software. With all the crazy stuff that devs can do on Nexus devices, I'd think that a clever dev could maintain the S Pen functions while offering a more stock experience.
It's pretty sad that Samsung forces such an annoying, heavy UI on its consumers when other OEMs are moving closer to a stock experience. I wouldn't even have the desire for a custom ROM on this tablet if it were closer to stock Android. But there are just annoying bits like the headhphone volume warning every time I want to turn up the volume. Does Sammy really think its consumers are so idiotic that they can't handle their own volume controls without going deaf?
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I haven't owned a Note device prior to this one, but I doubt that devs are incapable of rummaging through Samsung's code and finding the bits that pertain to S Pen functionality. The sensors are built into the device--the rest is software. With all the crazy stuff that devs can do on Nexus devices, I'd think that a clever dev could maintain the S Pen functions while offering a more stock experience.
It's pretty sad that Samsung forces such an annoying, heavy UI on its consumers when other OEMs are moving closer to a stock experience. I wouldn't even have the desire for a custom ROM on this tablet if it were closer to stock Android. But there are just annoying bits like the headhphone volume warning every time I want to turn up the volume. Does Sammy really think its consumers are so idiotic that they can't handle their own volume controls without going deaf?
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Yea, there are a lot of stupid little annoyances with Touchwiz (not to mention the excessive bloatware). But in my experience with the Note devices it is much better to have a Touchwiz base custom Rom rather than removing it altogether. Even though the devs do a remarkable job, once you remove Touchwiz there are just too many issues to deal with in getting the same functionality out of the S-Pen that you have actually paid more for.It just doesn't seem to be integrated enough once you remove Touchwiz. To me it seems as if it becomes just a regular tablet that you can use a stylus on with apps that call for it. And if that is the case I would just buy, say a Tab Pro and a stylus. Also in regards to those little annoyances (and the bloatware) there are plenty of modules that can be used to minimize them. This tablet would be perfect if CivZ was able to make a custom rom and kernel like he has done for the Note 8.0:good:
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It costs too much and has a very small user base.
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Price shouldn't be an issue anymore. Price on refurbs is pretty low. I just picked up the Note Pro 12.2 for $429 - 13% ebay bucks = $375
Permissive kernel would be great
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Guys,
Just freeze all stuff you find to be non sense, heavy, resource intensive or you just don't like, install Xposed Framework, Nova Launcher or other of your taste and voila, you get a totally customized rom without loosing any of the native features of the Samsung original rom. You don't need to have a miscellany of custom roms to be happy. I totally agree about having a very expensive device and not using its native features. Nonsense. It's not only the hardware, but the software implementation that it's also awesome. I believe samsung was the first to implement multi window in an android device and IMHO it's better then Halo (I believe this is the name).
My first tablet was a xoom and I still have it. Old hardware, slow, but its construction quality reminds me the iPad. With OmniRom it performs just well. After it I only had Samsung Note tablets and phones. All disposable, peace of junk if you compare to the quality of the iPad, or even with the xoom, but the project is absolutely great. Hardware and software working in perfect tune. Disposable, but while it's working it's just great. And of course, if you take good care of it, it will last some years (don't drop it please). So, keep it original, that's the great thing on the Note line of tablets (and phones), customize it with the tools available around and you'll see how good these tablets can be. Having good customized and optimized TW roms is always good, but similar results can be achieved without flashing a single zip.
Root is a must!
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I want know which one better ?!
They're both the same in my opinion the Nexus have stock Android experience. LG has their own ui. They're both made by LG my wife has a g2 I've never even held the Nexus fine I can vouch that the g2 is a wonderful phone.
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dodora3d said:
I want know which one better ?!
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Go For Nexus 5 ,because it have pure android experience with gives better performance and better ram usages.
One thing is great of nexus devices that it will gate android update firstly than other devices.
So, Go for Nexus 5 :thumbup:
The Nexus 5 has more development than any other phone. Being a Nexus, it's the quickest to receive official updates from Google. Combined, these 2 facts mean even custom ROMs and kernels get updated quicker than other devices.
Apart from that though, the LG G2 is a better phone. Basically the same dimensions, but .2" bigger screen, a much larger battery, and a far better camera. The G2 doesn't really lack for development either; there's plenty of ROMs and kernels, plus the stock ROM has some cool features and can be tweaked to your liking with Xposed.
thanks all... if i bought N5 can add more Features like knock on multi tasking .ect ?
and what about battery usage ? good or what ?
any opinion !?
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thanks all... if i bought N5 can add more Features like knock on
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There are kernels that have this feature (dt2w - double tap to wake).
multi tasking
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All androids can multi-task. But if you mean multiple windows, then no.
and what about battery usage ? good or what ?
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Mediocre at best.
Very good battery with some kernels like CodeBlue, Uber, Franco, etc.! Congratz and enjoy!
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There are kernels that have this feature (dt2w - double tap to wake).
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All androids can multi-task. But if you mean multiple windows, then no.
yes that's what i mean multiple widnows ^_^
Mediocre at best.
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for chat and wifi fb etc. how long stay on ?
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Very good battery with some kernels like CodeBlue, Uber, Franco, etc.! Congratz and enjoy!
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thank you ^_^
You should buy Nexus 5 because it is the phone made exclusively for developers. And the best thing is that you will get Android Updates earliest than any other phones in the world
Nexus 5 all nexus' are great (except camera) and come with stock android, fast updates, great for developers and can show off by having it.
It has been confirmed that LG plans to update the G Flex 2 to Android 6.0 along with their other 2015 flagship phones.
I'm curious as to what the community believes this update will bring to the phone. Obviously we will acquire the improvements of Android Marshmallow, but I really wish I knew if LG plans to bring anything else to the device.
An example would be UX 4.0 from the LG G4. Or if they possibly plan to revamp all the devices to a possible UX 5.0.
The Number one thing on my wishlist would probably be all the camera controls that the LG G4 has.... and maybe even the V10.
I also hope that they just add more options to customize their software. I know that this is an android phone and there are custom launchers and stuff. But I am definitely one of those people that love it when I can be satisfied with the built in software. An example of this is the fact that I don't like any of the unlocking animations that are built in, and there aren't that many of them to choose from. I came from a Nexus 5 and I am huge fan of how clean everything looks. From the icons to the animations, everything just looks focused and subtle. A lot of Lg's software is the opposite of this. Really wish Samsung and LG would stop trying to impress customers with glitter and pretty lights. I don't need the screen to look like a friggin' carbonated water portal opening up just to reveal a text from my mom.
Anyway, rants aside.
What do you guys think we'll get?
Do you think everything will be the same just running on the foundation of Android 6.0? Or do you think LG has more goodies planned..
UX 4 or 5.0 would be nice. Maybe camera software..
But can you tell me where did you found the news of GF2 updating to Marshmellow? Thx.
I'm hoping LG would give there own apps a makeover like the phone app for example. It looks terrible and not like the clean material guidelines Google is using for their apps. Other than that I think not a lot will change, nor does it has to change in my opinion.
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Where was it confirmed?
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Yea I apologize, I read a number of sites earlier in the week supposedly confirming that the phone was getting the update. When I went to go get links for you guys I realized that all of them were basically just assuming or guessing that the phone would get it.
The only report with any evidence was that the G3 and G4 were going to get it because LG added Android 6.0 as one of the possible versions of the operating system that those phones can be running on a Korean LG support page. But those were the only two phones they found and I'm not sure how old that information is.
So basically we're just hoping/assuming the GF2 will get it at this point.
I'd assume the LG G Flex 2 was getting Marshmallow also. It was marketed as a "flagship" device, and it's in the same line as the G4 - I'm guessing it will get it.
In terms of what it will bring, I reckon only improved battery. However the 810 SoC is starting to annoy the hell out of me. I grabbed one of these for £180 brand new as I was trying to be smart....other than the jank caused by v1 of this chip, I love it!
So....yeah, battery and that's about it.
What software version are you running on yours? I did the same thing as you and I bought the phone during a sale. Got it for 250 bucks brand new with free shipping. When I first got the phone it was on Android 5.0.1 and I was actually kind of pissed. The performance was really terrible and unpredictable for a phone with this much horsepower and the battery life was horrible.
But I have to say, that as soon as I was able to get the 5.1.1 update from AT&T/LG the phone's performance is noticeably way better. Really kind of makes you wonder why LG even launched the phone when it was that bad out of the box. I know for a fact that a lot of people returned the phone because of the performance on Ver. 5.0.1 of the software. Everyone just assumed the phone was a piece of ****.
Im hoping they revamp the ui , pull down and icons. Its about as ugly as touchwiz and really hinders the experience. yeah, there are numerous custom launchers, but meh. im hoping someone can develop an aosp rom for this phone