Setup Android's Voice & Face Lock for securing device - Security Discussion

Prologue: This was something I saw first on Notebooks/Laptops! Face lock and Voice lock, not only its too trendy but also too secure to rely on. Well Android's new version are been loaded with this along with PIN lock, Password lock and even Pattern lock which were in previous versions too. I've tried many apps on store, but the stock is the best of all I've tried.
Uses of Face Lock and Voice Lock
→ You can set your face as your Password - Yup you'll get some privacy
→ More secured (when compared with Pattern, PIN, Password Lock)
→ Helps you Show off your phone
How precise is Face and Voice Lock
Face detection is better than those in Notebooks, that's what I felt after trying. Though you need to have a front camera which is not so great comparatively, the face detection is cool and accurate. One thing I would regret is face lock is not much at low light environment. But you don't have to worry coz you can also unlock by PIN if your face is not detected
Availability
Though the Apps on Store support phones from 2.3 to till date version, stock version can be seen in 4.2 Jellybean and onwards. So if you are using anything less than this, you may have to wait for update. ICS users can enjoy this feature - thanks to developers. All you have to do is flash a zip to install this feature.
Link for download: "http:// forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405790"
How to setup??
→ Navigate to Settings>Security>Screen Lock
→ Select Screen Lock> Then Voice Lock or Face lock
→ Firstly you'll have to setup a PIN do it!
→ Now you can easily setup Face Lock or Voice Lock - Just follow on screen instruction
My experience with Face & Voice Lock
Well setting up of Face Lock or Voice Lock was cool but using it every time to unlock was a pain . You'll have to show your face every time to camera and smile! So could stick on.. May be different in your opinion.. Try it!!
Original post is on my blog "www. androidpagez. tk/2013/10/androids-voice-lock-face-lock. html" - Remove spaces

paccha said:
Prologue: This was something I saw first on Notebooks/Laptops! Face lock and Voice lock, not only its too trendy but also too secure to rely on. Well Android's new version are been loaded with this along with PIN lock, Password lock and even Pattern lock which were in previous versions too. I've tried many apps on store, but the stock is the best of all I've tried.
Uses of Face Lock and Voice Lock
→ You can set your face as your Password - Yup you'll get some privacy
→ More secured (when compared with Pattern, PIN, Password Lock)
→ Helps you Show off your phone
How precise is Face and Voice Lock
Face detection is better than those in Notebooks, that's what I felt after trying. Though you need to have a front camera which is not so great comparatively, the face detection is cool and accurate. One thing I would regret is face lock is not much at low light environment. But you don't have to worry coz you can also unlock by PIN if your face is not detected
Availability
Though the Apps on Store support phones from 2.3 to till date version, stock version can be seen in 4.2 Jellybean and onwards. So if you are using anything less than this, you may have to wait for update. ICS users can enjoy this feature - thanks to developers. All you have to do is flash a zip to install this feature.
Link for download: "http:// forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405790"
How to setup??
→ Navigate to Settings>Security>Screen Lock
→ Select Screen Lock> Then Voice Lock or Face lock
→ Firstly you'll have to setup a PIN do it!
→ Now you can easily setup Face Lock or Voice Lock - Just follow on screen instruction
My experience with Face & Voice Lock
Well setting up of Face Lock or Voice Lock was cool but using it every time to unlock was a pain . You'll have to show your face every time to camera and smile! So could stick on.. May be different in your opinion.. Try it!!
Original post is on my blog "www. androidpagez. tk/2013/10/androids-voice-lock-face-lock. html" - Remove spaces
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If I get hold of your phone when unlocked I can add my face to your device without pattern/pin
Big security flaw
Yet fun if they fix it

It's all cool and handy, as long as you don't mind your device is literally watching and listening to you and everyone around. Same applies for fingerprint reading which gives nsa...I mean google and oems pretty nice databases

Useless
What the well is this admin , fully MAD who share this post ?????

For the time being this looks like a gimmick and not much else. Generally impractical and as you mentioned quite tedious to do so. Nonetheless, biometrics is improving at a solid pace. Wonder how much more can we go in the next 5-10 years.

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Using fingerprint scanner without screenlock?

Hi, I hate having i screenlock, be it password, pattern or fingerprint - it's just to uncomfortable, especially being lefthanded and having a flipcover.
But, I'd still like to use fingerprint authentication in certain apps, like my bank's app. However it doesn't seem possible to activate the scanning functions and registering prints without having a screen lock active.
Does anyone know how to get around this (no root)?
I would also like to know as well. I am using Microsoft Next as my lock screen and I apparently am unable to only use the lock screen with the fingerprint scanner. I keep getting forced to have a pin or pattern which sucks.
toth42 said:
Hi, I hate having i screenlock, be it password, pattern or fingerprint - it's just to uncomfortable, especially being lefthanded and having a flipcover.
But, I'd still like to use fingerprint authentication in certain apps, like my bank's app. However it doesn't seem possible to activate the scanning functions and registering prints without having a screen lock active.
Does anyone know how to get around this (no root)?
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You can pair your phone with a Bluetooth device, such as Bluetooth wristband, and enable Smart Unlock then you may bypass the PIN.
ykkhern said:
You can pair your phone with a Bluetooth device, such as Bluetooth wristband, and enable Smart Unlock then you may bypass the PIN.
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Sure, but then I'll have to walk around with some bluetooth thing. I don't want that, I just want to be able to use the fingerprint selectively, without it locking the phone.
[Wazzup4567] said:
I would also like to know as well. I am using Microsoft Next as my lock screen and I apparently am unable to only use the lock screen with the fingerprint scanner. I keep getting forced to have a pin or pattern which sucks.
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Had never heard of Next, now I already love it - thanks!
I think that's not possible. Fingerprint adds a security layer, but if for some reason it's not supported by an app or if for any reason you cut your finger and your fingerprint it's not readable anymore, you must have a backup unlock method.

Intelligent scan (likes) on S8/S8+/N8/N8+ Magisk | Root

Hi everyone, I'm Alex, I found this easy way to have an intelligent scan like s9 (face recognition and iris scan at the same time)
What you need
-root (magisk)
-an iris scanner
Installation
-First open magisk and search for "Google face unlock"
-reboot
-go to settings > smart lock > add face
- deactivate stock Samsung face recognition
-then register an iris scan
-set iris scanner to start without swipe (if you want)
Now try to unlock your phone whit iris and then whit Eyes closed.
Is normal that iris scanner will display "iris don't found icon" that mean face unlock recognize your face before iris but try to swipe up and the phone will unlock.
Now you can unlock your phone in low light conditions and high light conditions:good:
-protip : whit autoinput (app in PlayStore) whit keyguard option will unlock without swipe whit facelock
-Alles sry my bad English and if I post it in wrong
You can install AutoInput from play store , you can watch an add a day to use free everyday or u can pay 2 dollars for it to have it always. It has an option called auto dismiss keyguard and it will unlock the phone without swiping in the moment that it recognizes your face
The method seem to work but let me explain here what exactly happens, the google face unlock barely lets the phone to scan your irises and uses the phones camera to scan your face almost within a second(maybe even less then a second, i havnt used a stopwatch) after the iris scanner turns on giving iris scanner almost no time at all to scan your irises and we all know that iris scanning is not that fast. So essentially by using this method you are using googles face scan only. thats not how samsung implements intelligent scan and also this method requires an extra app to work properly(autoinput). So its better to use samsung's face scanning tech rather than google's as iris scanner aint working any way if you want to go the face unlock way.
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Honor View 20 Reviews - All the reviews - Found a good one add it here

This thread is a single place for all the reviews on the Honor View 20. I will add more to this first post as I find new reviews. At the moment, there are unboxings and first looks.
Review after 1 month + camera showcase https://youtu.be/v13sS3Gzeb0
and the 10 part review covering all aspects in detail, which includes 4 videos as well
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/27/honor-view-20-real-life-review/
Gavin's Gadgets - Camera Review - All modes tested of the 48mp AI Camera , very detailed
https://youtu.be/x6wqdZ-BTKA
Audio Review https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/2...-loudspeaker-and-3-5mm-headphones-all-tested/
Gavin's Gadgets Hands On https://youtu.be/5dsHWQ45-o8
XDA https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-view-20-hands-on-first-impressions-review/
Android Central https://www.androidcentral.com/honor-view-20-review
The Verge https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/1/22/18192579/honor-view-20-48-megapixel-camera-review
The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/10/18176129/honor-view-20-huawei-hole-punch-display-ces-2019
Camera review with samples of all the modes is live now.
https://youtu.be/x6wqdZ-BTKA
I have read that the view 20 does not have dark mode compared with mate 20 pro?
pro4ever said:
I have read that the view 20 does not have dark mode compared with mate 20 pro?
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Correct. This is because its an IPS not OLED panel.
gavinfabl said:
Correct. This is because its an IPS not OLED panel.
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Tnx Gavin. Bummer will give this one a miss love dark mode.
Android Central mentions that the haptic (vibrator) motor is weak and soft, unlike the iPhone for example.
Kind of a holdback for me to buy it.
Waarez said:
Android Central mentions that the haptic (vibrator) motor is weak and soft, unlike the iPhone for example.
Kind of a holdback for me to buy it.
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Then buy an iPhone, its twice the price. There has to be some sacrifices at a lower price point, and haptics would never feature highly for me as a must have strong haptics, more so as I turn them off. If you look at all the other stuff squeezed into the View 20, you do get a lot of phone. However, for me, its the accumulation of everything, that then provides an overall experience, which I am loving. I do get that not every phone is right for every person
After one month of usage, this is my review, with all the pros and points to note, along with a camera showcase https://youtu.be/v13sS3Gzeb0
My written review, 10 parts, includes the 4 videos as well plus dedicated reviews on the audio and camera in much more detail https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/27/honor-view-20-real-life-review/
Mobilejack (german review): https://youtu.be/bp5jwMGhLvI
Mobilejack (german first Impression): https://youtu.be/3f86AiaeB2I
harrys56431 said:
I am thinking to buy Honor's view 20, so that's why I am looking for the reviews about this smartphone. You guys have shared all the reviews about this mobile and I think it has the best camera, user experience as compared with any other smartphone. Now I will must buy this phone and also share my review with you guys here.
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What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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I can see Android fans being put off by the locked bootloader and limitations of Magic UI, but the lack of screen lock timeout control is not an issue for me because I bypass magazine unlock and use the fingerprint sensor to open on the app that I was last using when the screen timed out to lock the device. Face unlock works in the same way. You can change the sleep settings in display to increase the duration before the screen shuts off. The default is 15 seconds which is a little too aggressive.
mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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The number 2 is really what bothered me initially - having a lot of financial apps that need it. All I do in most cases is not to forget to press the power button immediately after making use of any of the apps to lock the screen.
mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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Speak for yourself as there are tens of millions of people who are very happy with Emui.
Emui 9.1 is near perfect now. Your first point is incorrect. You can change this when you select a new theme. I've never worried about the second point. I want rock tight security. And the third point does need changing.
Otherwise there's actually a lot emui offers over others. If you don't like it, just install Nova Launcher. Hides most things.
My only wish apart from your third point is having the option to scale the icon size within the themes.
mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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You can easily get rid of the magazine unlock.

What is the most missed feature, compared to past Pixels?

For me, it'll have to be the notification LED I really miss that. Had different colours for different apps and even people, so I knew who or what it was without even picking up my phone to check.
I also miss the fingerprint sensor on all the banking apps etc but that'll be resolved in due course once the developers switch to the biometric API for Face Unlock.
What is it for you?
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For me, it'll have to be the notification LED I really miss that. Had different colours for different apps and even people, so I knew who or what it was without even picking up my phone to check.
I also miss the fingerprint sensor on all the banking apps etc but that'll be resolved in due course once the developers switch to the biometric API for Face Unlock.
What is it for you?
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+ 1 on everything you have statted.
I have not yet purchased the Pixel 4 xl
And dont know if I will
Definitely rather have a LED light than AOD for sure.
Only the original quality photos and videos backup but not really. I'm actually using my 100GB Google One storage which I hardly touched. At my current rate of 1GB per 12 days, I'll be needing more space in just under 3 years. [emoji23]
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Hands down the finger print sensor. ? Unlimited Full Photo Backup as well. Wide angle selfie camera. I didn't think it was a huge deal on the 3 but I ended up using it quite a bit.
For sure LED notification and fingerprint sensor. I like the face unlock but also want to have the choice to not use it and use a fingerprint instead. There's many times I will pull my phone out just to see the time then POOF...unlocked. Ugh! lol
(yes, I know PIN/Pattern can be used in lieu of face unlock)
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For sure LED notification and fingerprint sensor. I like the face unlock but also want to have the choice to not use it and use a fingerprint instead. There's many times I will pull my phone out just to see the time then POOF...unlocked. Ugh! lol
(yes, I know PIN/Pattern can be used in lieu of face unlock)
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There is also a setting to face unlock then go to the "lock screen" rather than all the way in. That's what I do. So tap the screen to see notifications or face unlock then swipe up.
Settings -> Display -> Lock Screen Display -> Skip Lock Screen toggle : On skips directly to last screen used (like your home screen). Turn it off and Face Unlock goes to your lock screen and you just swipe up to then go to the home screen.
nothing. I thought I'd miss the fingerprint sensor, but I don't Face unlock is so fast it would be unlocked before I could place my finger. I would like an ultra wide lens and top bezel to shrink but that was not on the older models either...just hoping those 2 are done on P5
I have a TB on Google one, so not a huge issue for me with photos. I save original quality. I had my subscription last year as well.
Autofocus for the front-cam, no doubt...
Biometric API is really bugging me and I bet we could wait a very, very long time before Devs start actually updating for it.
Nothing really. I thought I'd miss the LED, but I haven't really noticed it being gone much. The fingerprint sensor some, but mainly because a lot of my apps use it. Definitely miss the convenience of it. I'll be very happy once they start using the new API. I sort of miss the metal back of the 2xl. But, wireless charging is awesome, so it's kind of a toss up.
I DEFINITELY don't miss the notch on the 3. I didn't think it bothered me, until I got this phone. Now I can't understand how I went a full year with it...
At least for as long as only a few apps support biometric unlocking, it definitely is the fingerprint scanner. But I'm sure it's only a medium-term loss, and we'll see more apps being able to use biometric unlock very soon.

Improve face unlock

Anyone have problem with face unlock about bad angles or not working under bright sunlight! Just set up face unlock under direct sunlight! make sure sunlight sight direct into your face when setting up. Hope that's helpful, it works for me at least
Ps: if you are wearing glasses, put them on when setup.
My biggest issue with face unlock is random challenge to unlock with PIN for "added security".
I say random because I've not rebooted the phone. The message is different when rebooting. I've sent numerous feedback with logs to Google but Google doesn't respond to feedback. I have no idea why this happens. It's annoying. This can happen as often as once a day at random unless I'm missing the reason for it. Maybe it works for days without error. Maybe this is required at intervals I've not recognized?
Patterns I've noticed otherwise include a pause to unlock when I grab my phone and it's upside down. It usually gives me time to recognize this and get screen upright. My phone is usually on a stand upright in portrait mode so it's rare that I pick it up with screen not orientated correctly.
I've not tried setting up face unlock in bright setting though.
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samep said:
My biggest issue with face unlock is random challenge to unlock with PIN for "added security".
I say random because I've not rebooted the phone. The message is different when rebooting. I've sent numerous feedback with logs to Google but Google doesn't respond to feedback. I have no idea why this happens. It's annoying. This can happen as often as once a day at random unless I'm missing the reason for it. Maybe it works for days without error. Maybe this is required at intervals I've not recognized?
Patterns I've noticed otherwise include a pause to unlock when I grab my phone and it's upside down. It usually gives me time to recognize this and get screen upright. My phone is usually on a stand upright in portrait mode so it's rare that I pick it up with screen not orientated correctly.
I've not tried setting up face unlock in bright setting though.
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your problems is totally different with what I mean to. However, It think your problem could be from software or setting. you would reset your phone. And if that keep going, using google warranty is best choice.
nguaogioi said:
your problems is totally different with what I mean to. However, It think your problem could be from software or setting. you would reset your phone. And if that keep going, using google warranty is best choice.
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Thanks. I should talk to Google Pixel support again. I've been reluctant since they couldn't resolve an issue with Google Home app. They referred me to Google Home app support but they kept getting stuck on the fact they support hardware, not the app. I could link Google and Philips Hue but couldn't add Philips Hue to Google Home app. Failing every time.
Long story but the mobile apps kept telling me that that there was an issue getting provider information for Philips Hue. Yet it went through all the steps and failed at the end, never adding Philips Hue. This once worked until it stopped; nothing I was doing was working, even asking Google and Philips for support was pointless with them refusing to talk to each other or continue support with me until resolution. One day my phone had a notification to control my lights and the linking and final step worked that time. I followed the notification and seemingly skipped several steps I've went through to failure but this time everything went as expected and I can control my lights again. Finally! What was the issue? Google won't say but I suspect they discovered it long after I gave up. Months!
I've seen face unlock improvements in the notes of the monthly updates so I've thought Google is aware but like before, not on my timetable. Low priority. With my past slate now clean, start a new one.
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samep said:
My biggest issue with face unlock is random challenge to unlock with PIN for "added security".
I say random because I've not rebooted the phone. The message is different when rebooting. I've sent numerous feedback with logs to Google but Google doesn't respond to feedback. I have no idea why this happens. It's annoying. This can happen as often as once a day at random unless I'm missing the reason for it. Maybe it works for days without error. Maybe this is required at intervals I've not recognized?
Patterns I've noticed otherwise include a pause to unlock when I grab my phone and it's upside down. It usually gives me time to recognize this and get screen upright. My phone is usually on a stand upright in portrait mode so it's rare that I pick it up with screen not orientated correctly.
I've not tried setting up face unlock in bright setting though.
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The issue you explained about the seemingly random pin requirement is actually not an issue at all. It's coded into the software as an extra security measure. If you lock your phone and do not unlock it for XXX amount of time (eg. 1 hour) then the phone requires your pin or pattern to verify its still you and your phone hasn't been physically compromised. The other trigger for this happening is at or around 6 hours since the last time your pin was physically entered, it will require you to enter it for the same reasons I listed before. Using face unlock doesn't reset the 6 hours, only physically entering your pin code will.
Hope this helps you understand a little better what's going on with your phone. We all have the same thing happen to us, just most don't notice it when it happens.
1dopewrx05 said:
The issue you explained about the seemingly random pin requirement is actually not an issue at all. It's coded into the software as an extra security measure. If you lock your phone and do not unlock it for XXX amount of time (eg. 1 hour) then the phone requires your pin or pattern to verify its still you and your phone hasn't been physically compromised. The other trigger for this happening is at or around 6 hours since the last time your pin was physically entered, it will require you to enter it for the same reasons I listed before. Using face unlock doesn't reset the 6 hours, only physically entering your pin code will.
Hope this helps you understand a little better what's going on with your phone. We all have the same thing happen to us, just most don't notice it when it happens.
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Your hour or six a guess, estimation or actual?
What you described seems true but my use would likely indicate more quiring for PIN than I experience. Just asking.
But if this is intent, I don't agree PIN is added security. Sure face ID can be duped in many ways but at the very least what I'd prefer is safe zone like home where face unlock never dupes to PIN or added security. As I recall, total unlock is only option for designated safe zone like home, unless considering Bluetooth device which I don't prefer unless it can distinguish my Fitbit Versa 2 watch is very near and worn?
Surely there's less invasive methods users can deploy to not be so inconvenienced at home. I've even seen this at work with my wife's iPhone X. More choices seems a logical approach to consider. Why hasn't it?
Phone on charger just now, after just talking to Google Assistant, give a smart home command it interprets correctly, the smart assistant says sure, after you unlock your phone. I dismiss the Google Assistant and promptly unlock my phone without the stupid PIN. Not being very user friendly. I'm under the impression many developers don't just use the device and rethink their intents to be most user friendly.
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I feel like I don't see this message more than twice a week... which certainly goes against the every 6 hours idea. My impression was that sometimes movement or Soli will wake it up and it sees something it thinks is a face but it can't unlock with it. If it sees this enough, it may prompt for a PIN unlock with the different message. But sometimes, I think I see this message taking it out of my pocket... where it can't possibly see a face. But maybe it saw part of my face as I was putting it in. It would be interesting to know what the actual rules are regarding this.
I know that when I have the screen upside down, the screen wakes but gives me time to get it upright. Seconds. I don't recall seeing this fail me, thankfully.
I don't have much or any of the Soli features enabled but have screen tap to wake and skip unlock screen enabled.
I've wondered if having the generic stand was causing random face unlock errors but reach for phone is disabled. And I've tried placing my screen down flat instead of the stand and still got prompts to unlock with PIN.
Sometimes I grab my phone and tap to wake doesn't work. But it doesn't mean I get a prompt for PIN every time either. Yesterday, I tapped on the screen repeatedly and it woke and unlocked when it recognized my face. Maybe it's a latent response but I'm usually using the power button to wake by then.
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So I did a chat with Pixel support today.
For the issues with frequent queries for PIN and Voice Assistant asking me to unlock my phone first, the agent had me delete storage and cache for Google and Phone app, delete face unlock and add it back. Reboot phone and get back with them if this doesn't help.
The agent indicated there's not a timer that cannot be reset with unlock that would naturally challenge for PIN after counting down. His advice is to do the above for that issue. The face unlock is suspect. I hadn't done this until today. For kicks, I tried it outside in daylight though the agent didn't recommend this idea. Fwiw, I can unlock my phone in the dark but maybe daylight helps better see contours of the face.
I have a case number to chat again if this continues. Agent says it shouldn't reoccur.
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I only have a basic understanding of how face unlock works... but from what I understand it uses an IR dot projector and two IR cameras to stereoscopically sense the depth of your face. This is why it works in the dark to begin with and based on this, I would think direct sunlight would be a detriment rather than a boon in this sensing method. But it may not have any effect at all as I don't know exactly how the sun and the dot projector overlap in wavelength and strength.
Having a "bad" face calibration might explain it as the phone is more often unconfident about it being your face. So it triggers more failures which prompts the increased security message.
jljtgr said:
I only have a basic understanding of how face unlock works... but from what I understand it uses an IR dot projector and two IR cameras to stereoscopically sense the depth of your face. This is why it works in the dark to begin with and based on this, I would think direct sunlight would be a detriment rather than a boon in this sensing method. But it may not have any effect at all as I don't know exactly how the sun and the dot projector overlap in wavelength and strength.
Having a "bad" face calibration might explain it as the phone is more often unconfident about it being your face. So it triggers more failures which prompts the increased security message.
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Agreed. It's unknown if added light is a help, hindrance or placebo. But the agent seemed confident just replacing the face unlock would solve my issues.
Not all of my issues sounded familiar was the reason for suggested extra storage wipes and reboot.
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I spoke from my experience. Before that if i will to unlock i have to keep it direct to my face as the right distance or angles and it hardly work with changing light conditions like under direct sunlight. But after set up with aid from sunlight i could say it work quick and more reliable as my iphone xr even in dark or direct sunlight.
I dont know if that is hardware or software problems.
73 hours of uptime. Random PIN for added security prompt has returned when Google Pixel support said it shouldn't after deleting and adding face unlock.
Taking my case ID back to Pixel support. I'm not sure the agent was right about face unlock not occasionally duping to PIN unlock. Very annoying if this is intended or not.
72 hour bug?
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So my Pixel 4 XL face unlock did the same prompt for pin after another 72 hours. No reboot; no error or explanation why other than added security. I'm at 146 hours uptime.
I asked Pixel support again about this. They're researching but want me to do a factory reset now and get back to them.
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