Honor View 20 Reviews - All the reviews - Found a good one add it here - Honor View 20 Guides, News, & Discussion

This thread is a single place for all the reviews on the Honor View 20. I will add more to this first post as I find new reviews. At the moment, there are unboxings and first looks.
Review after 1 month + camera showcase https://youtu.be/v13sS3Gzeb0
and the 10 part review covering all aspects in detail, which includes 4 videos as well
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/27/honor-view-20-real-life-review/
Gavin's Gadgets - Camera Review - All modes tested of the 48mp AI Camera , very detailed
https://youtu.be/x6wqdZ-BTKA
Audio Review https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/2...-loudspeaker-and-3-5mm-headphones-all-tested/
Gavin's Gadgets Hands On https://youtu.be/5dsHWQ45-o8
XDA https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-view-20-hands-on-first-impressions-review/
Android Central https://www.androidcentral.com/honor-view-20-review
The Verge https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/1/22/18192579/honor-view-20-48-megapixel-camera-review
The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/10/18176129/honor-view-20-huawei-hole-punch-display-ces-2019

Camera review with samples of all the modes is live now.
https://youtu.be/x6wqdZ-BTKA

I have read that the view 20 does not have dark mode compared with mate 20 pro?

pro4ever said:
I have read that the view 20 does not have dark mode compared with mate 20 pro?
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Correct. This is because its an IPS not OLED panel.

gavinfabl said:
Correct. This is because its an IPS not OLED panel.
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Tnx Gavin. Bummer will give this one a miss love dark mode.

Android Central mentions that the haptic (vibrator) motor is weak and soft, unlike the iPhone for example.
Kind of a holdback for me to buy it.

Waarez said:
Android Central mentions that the haptic (vibrator) motor is weak and soft, unlike the iPhone for example.
Kind of a holdback for me to buy it.
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Then buy an iPhone, its twice the price. There has to be some sacrifices at a lower price point, and haptics would never feature highly for me as a must have strong haptics, more so as I turn them off. If you look at all the other stuff squeezed into the View 20, you do get a lot of phone. However, for me, its the accumulation of everything, that then provides an overall experience, which I am loving. I do get that not every phone is right for every person

After one month of usage, this is my review, with all the pros and points to note, along with a camera showcase https://youtu.be/v13sS3Gzeb0
My written review, 10 parts, includes the 4 videos as well plus dedicated reviews on the audio and camera in much more detail https://gavinsgadgets.com/2019/01/27/honor-view-20-real-life-review/

Mobilejack (german review): https://youtu.be/bp5jwMGhLvI
Mobilejack (german first Impression): https://youtu.be/3f86AiaeB2I

harrys56431 said:
I am thinking to buy Honor's view 20, so that's why I am looking for the reviews about this smartphone. You guys have shared all the reviews about this mobile and I think it has the best camera, user experience as compared with any other smartphone. Now I will must buy this phone and also share my review with you guys here.
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What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.

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What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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I can see Android fans being put off by the locked bootloader and limitations of Magic UI, but the lack of screen lock timeout control is not an issue for me because I bypass magazine unlock and use the fingerprint sensor to open on the app that I was last using when the screen timed out to lock the device. Face unlock works in the same way. You can change the sleep settings in display to increase the duration before the screen shuts off. The default is 15 seconds which is a little too aggressive.

mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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The number 2 is really what bothered me initially - having a lot of financial apps that need it. All I do in most cases is not to forget to press the power button immediately after making use of any of the apps to lock the screen.

mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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Speak for yourself as there are tens of millions of people who are very happy with Emui.
Emui 9.1 is near perfect now. Your first point is incorrect. You can change this when you select a new theme. I've never worried about the second point. I want rock tight security. And the third point does need changing.
Otherwise there's actually a lot emui offers over others. If you don't like it, just install Nova Launcher. Hides most things.
My only wish apart from your third point is having the option to scale the icon size within the themes.

mangojain said:
What most reviews don't talk about, i seriously do not understand why, are the major flaws in EMUI 9.1 or Magic 2.0 -
1. The Magazine Unlock setting is missing - this means that you have no option to disable the feature or choose the lockscreen wallpaper.
2. There is no option to set the screen lock timeout - the screen gets locked immediately, every single time. So if you have a pin set, it means you have to enter it every time the screen goes off !
3. Cannot respond to notifications on the lock screen - to respond to a single whatsapp message, you have to unlock the screen. Ridiculous !!
My take on Huawei phones is - unless we get a clarification that these issues will be resolved in future software releases, stay away from them.
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You can easily get rid of the magazine unlock.

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EMUI quirks and annoyances

I’ve used stock or (virtually stock) Android phones for years. My last properly skinned phone was a Samsung Galaxy s II. So using EMUI on this phone has been interesting. There is a lot that I like, but here I’ll describe a few annoying quirks I’ve noticed, plus any partial-solutions I use. Hopefully this will inform perspective and current P20 owners, but also, if you have a solution to any of these problems, do let me know!
- The settings menu is terrible. They have messed with it so much, and added so many settings, that it is often impossible to find what you’re looking for. The solution is to search, which, thankfully, works well.
- The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
- Notification content (including media controls) is always hidden on the lockscreen until you authenticate, regardless of the app setting. This seems to be a bug. Setting up face unlock (and swipe to unlock) at least means you can see your lock screen with notification content when at a face-unlock-friendly angle.
- The double tap vol down to launch camera works fine, except when I’m listening to music, when it just turns down the music. No idea why they don’t give this functionality to the lock button like most OEMs.
- Unlock by voice for Google Assistant doesn’t seem to work. I’ve had this problem on other phones so don’t know if I’d blame Huawei. It responds to ‘OK Google’ from screen off (which is better than my OnePlus) but won’t actually unlock.
- The always on display is a bit weak. It doesn’t even properly show notifications.
Anything to add? What EMUI quirks have you found?
Try this for always on display and notifications
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/display-notifications-set-t3776376
The settings menu is terrible. They have messed with it so much, and added so many settings, that it is often impossible to find what you’re looking for. The solution is to search, which, thankfully, works well.
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I find the settings menu perfect compared to samsung or other brands.
The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
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Just open gallery, open any picture you want, set as background for home- and lockscreen, thats it
Notification content (including media controls) is always hidden on the lockscreen until you authenticate, regardless of the app setting. This seems to be a bug. Setting up face unlock (and swipe to unlock) at least means you can see your lock screen with notification content when at a face-unlock-friendly angle.
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You can set to show always full content, even if not authenticated.
The always on display is a bit weak. It doesn’t even properly show notifications.
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I´m sure there will be more options with further firmware updates
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I have sometimes problems with starting my spotify automatically when connecting a bluetooth device, I think a sleep mode problem. Another bug is the one with updating widgets. My calendar widget f.e. crashes after a time. found a workaround with "your calendar widget".
But I think all in all its a great phone with great features
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The lock screen wallpaper changes every time you unlock the phone. I feel like an idiot, but I can’t work out how to set my own (single!) wallpaper. There are these collections which you can choose between, and then from the lock screen itself you can favourite wallpapers from the collection (not sure what this does) and pause on a wallpaper from the collection, and it looks like you can add your own collections, but this doesn’t seem to work. There MUST be a work around. All I want is the same wallpaper on my lock and home screen!
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You can find this setting in 'Security & privacy' - 'Screen lock & passwords'
=> 'Update covers' to enable and disable it and 'Covers' to choose the pictures to show
EMUI has made me fall back in love with OxygenOS - the way EMUI treats notifications and the lock screen is diabolical. If I unlock my Oneplus 3 but don't read a notification, I can lock it again and the notification remains on the lock screen. The notifications span the whole screen, and work perfectly.
Also, Spotify on OxygenOS uses album cover art as lock screen wallpaper when playing, similar to how EMUI treats the local Music app.
This gonna be a debate for eternity.
People who come from xiaomi or samsung wont feel too awkward with emui,
Different case if you come from AOSP, or Oxygen or LOS.
Best solution is slapping NOVA launcher as soon as you use the phone.
I've used several Huawei phones now, in fact since the Mate 8 they've tended to be my main phones through most of the year (I still try others, but tend to come back for the battery life and cameras, granted the cameras have not been as good as competitors but the camera systems are more fun to me as a person with an amateur interest in photography and I've taken a lot of shots I don't think I could have got from the others). The P8Max was my first, and the UI/OS was a bit of a dogs breakfast - so many things were broken (many due to trying to increase battery longevity) and many other things required complex workarounds beyond installing Nova which I've had on each of them. It's pretty well fine now, but if you're coming from Samsung or others it's very different and will take a bit of time to adjust to - particularly the level of granular control you have on things affecting battery life. Once you get a handle on it you'll probably end up appreciating a lot of what it offers.
Google Assistant works fine but it makes conflict with Huawei voice control (so turn off one of them)
Double tap volume down to launch camera is a great idea but why the hell it does not work when players or different apps are in the background.....
Hi there!
Setting your own lockscreen carousel:
Settings>security & privacy>screen lock & passwords>magazine unlock>subscriptions>added by me>add>choose image
You can create your own cycle of wallpapers.
In themes App make sure you set me>customize>lock screen style>magazine unlock
I wish adjusting the volume on Bluetooth headphones adjusted the master volume like on all previous phones I've had instead of acting like an in-line control.
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Hi how do you get rid of double tap on home screen it's do annoying it's a short cut to access latest apps that have used I have Nova Which is excellent and I'm coming from a Samsung S7 to a P20 pro please help !!
To enable or stop scrolling wallaper just swype from the bottom on the lockscreen and you will see Pause button at the left. if you press that, the scrolling will be disabled and a "play" icon will remain.
I've debloating quite a lot from emui.
Installed swap torpedo
Runs faster now and battery lasts longer.
Huawei should offer a vanilla update.
Last time I saw so much bloat was on Samsung.
Unnecessary.
EMUI was one of the reasons I ditched my P10 after 6 months, went back to an iPhone, then to a Nokia 5...
Have any of the roms developed for the P20 done away with EMUI otherwise this device will be another one i'll have to remove from the list of potential upgrades.
Killing foreground apps
Hi, just bought the p20 pro after years with Samsung. I have noticed that it often kills apps that I am currently using, sending me back to the home screen (reminds me of a crash to desktop in windows computers).
After some googling similar problems I adjusted the app auto start and ignore battery optimization settings and it did get better, although it is still killing apps which I presume is using a lot of memory or battery (or both?), for example posting stuff on Instagram (Instagram is whitelisted from optimization and managed manually).
This is really bugging me, anyone else with the same problem? I'm running android 8.1.0, EMUI 8.1.0 and memory always stays between 2,5 and 3 GB.
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Hi, just bought the p20 pro after years with Samsung. I have noticed that it often kills apps that I am currently using, sending me back to the home screen (reminds me of a crash to desktop in windows computers).
After some googling similar problems I adjusted the app auto start and ignore battery optimization settings and it did get better, although it is still killing apps which I presume is using a lot of memory or battery (or both?), for example posting stuff on Instagram (Instagram is whitelisted from optimization and managed manually).
This is really bugging me, anyone else with the same problem? I'm running android 8.1.0, EMUI 8.1.0 and memory always stays between 2,5 and 3 GB.
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This is one of the biggest problems I have with this phone. It keeps killing Skype and I miss calls due to it...
rajeshr said:
This is one of the biggest problems I have with this phone. It keeps killing Skype and I miss calls due to it...
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Yeah, it's turning out to be a deal breaker for me.. Too bad since I really like the phone. Just hope it's a bug ?
Something seems to be happening to spotify when it is running in the background using my bluetooth headphones. I get stuttering and odd pauses, its basically unusable.
I have found if I use andriod auto to run spotify or use the wake lock program to keep the phone in a higher power mode it seems to help. If I have the charger plugged in it works fine as well. It appears to be some sort of power saving issue (yes I have told the phone to ignore spotify's power usage) or something to do with bluetooth power saving. But it works fine in a car.
Thats my only real complaint, and had I known I would have this issue I would have probably grabbed a onePlus device. Using Sure 215's
One thing I did notice, and I also fixed the problem quite simply.
I turned the display Resolution to HD from FHD my thinking was with a lower resolution I'd have better battery and better performance.
What I got was worse.
60fps lagged so badly it was unusable.
Transitions especially to the Google feed lagged and was annoying.
Asphalt 9 lagged and was extremely crap.
Turned FHD back on, all went back to silky smoothes??
Logic didn't exactly prevail here but it works.
So in short if you've turned on adaptive resolution or HD.
Turn it off
I'm facing this weird problem with my p20 pro. In. 128 and 131 and 152 firmware versions whenever in have an incoming call my screen doesn't wake up to show my who is calling me, unless I press the power button or the fingerprint sensor. If the call is missed my screen wakes up normally to show me the missed call notification. Any solution?? I have no fingerprint lock or pass code lock. Just swipe.
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Software (ease of use, features, etc)

When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the OnePlus 6T's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
On my offical 48+ hours with the OP6T. Having issues setting up face unlock the phone is keeping me in the loop of entering pin/pattern and not opening the face unlock settings, maybe update or software glitch patch. just reset the phone after a full 39+ hour discharge and recharge of the battery, any help with the issue would be great.
I will give it points for the pro mode but outside of that, I find it could use a few more features. If the V40 camera app comes to the V30, I'm going back to it.
Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
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Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
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True. I'm not a Huawei fan but I like their knuckle gestures a lot. Swiping with the knuckle from left to right or view versa enters split screen mode for example.
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Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
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You can set up the split screen shortcut under the navigation 'buttons' ie home button
I set my split screen shortcut as a home button long press
One plus 6T is good rather than other phones in its software and configuration.
Normally my Camera opens "instantly".
I encounter from time to time that my camera takes more than a second to start. It's a really fast phone, so what's the probleme here?
I got used to reliability on my OnePlus 5T. 6T is, well, lackluster. I need to reboot it at least once per day. hyperion takes ages to open and the screen is frozen in the meantime. Bluetooth... I am using 5-6 bt devices, and only 4 are on the list when you change volume. Weirdly, it's the disconnected ones, not the ones I am actually using. Sometimes the sound will just ignore BT and go through the phone speaker no matter what it's set to do - another reboot needed. Last weekend Sygic (satnav) crashed so badly the phone went black. No reaction. After holding all the buttons for 10 sec it rebooted to safe mode. Another reboot to normal, and all my settings, launcher, were gone.
Honestly, I want to love it. I do. But I actually hate it. Too bad I already gave my op5t to my daughter. It was soo much better.
Wow, today it just lost audio on voice calls. Why? Because previously I've been casting to a TV. So when the call came the stupid thing didn't know where to reroute audio. So after a while it decided f**k this, it's probably nothing important anyway.
only fixed by reboot. God I hate this phone!
I'm on stable 10 by the way.
I'm really happy with my OP 6T, just wished the camera was better.
I mean come on the secondary camera is only used for depth effect, so is only active in portrait mode...
The only other issue I have is the ambient display doesn't activate as it should imo, only a "hard pick up" will get it to switch on.

What is the most missed feature, compared to past Pixels?

For me, it'll have to be the notification LED I really miss that. Had different colours for different apps and even people, so I knew who or what it was without even picking up my phone to check.
I also miss the fingerprint sensor on all the banking apps etc but that'll be resolved in due course once the developers switch to the biometric API for Face Unlock.
What is it for you?
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For me, it'll have to be the notification LED I really miss that. Had different colours for different apps and even people, so I knew who or what it was without even picking up my phone to check.
I also miss the fingerprint sensor on all the banking apps etc but that'll be resolved in due course once the developers switch to the biometric API for Face Unlock.
What is it for you?
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+ 1 on everything you have statted.
I have not yet purchased the Pixel 4 xl
And dont know if I will
Definitely rather have a LED light than AOD for sure.
Only the original quality photos and videos backup but not really. I'm actually using my 100GB Google One storage which I hardly touched. At my current rate of 1GB per 12 days, I'll be needing more space in just under 3 years. [emoji23]
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Hands down the finger print sensor. ? Unlimited Full Photo Backup as well. Wide angle selfie camera. I didn't think it was a huge deal on the 3 but I ended up using it quite a bit.
For sure LED notification and fingerprint sensor. I like the face unlock but also want to have the choice to not use it and use a fingerprint instead. There's many times I will pull my phone out just to see the time then POOF...unlocked. Ugh! lol
(yes, I know PIN/Pattern can be used in lieu of face unlock)
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For sure LED notification and fingerprint sensor. I like the face unlock but also want to have the choice to not use it and use a fingerprint instead. There's many times I will pull my phone out just to see the time then POOF...unlocked. Ugh! lol
(yes, I know PIN/Pattern can be used in lieu of face unlock)
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There is also a setting to face unlock then go to the "lock screen" rather than all the way in. That's what I do. So tap the screen to see notifications or face unlock then swipe up.
Settings -> Display -> Lock Screen Display -> Skip Lock Screen toggle : On skips directly to last screen used (like your home screen). Turn it off and Face Unlock goes to your lock screen and you just swipe up to then go to the home screen.
nothing. I thought I'd miss the fingerprint sensor, but I don't Face unlock is so fast it would be unlocked before I could place my finger. I would like an ultra wide lens and top bezel to shrink but that was not on the older models either...just hoping those 2 are done on P5
I have a TB on Google one, so not a huge issue for me with photos. I save original quality. I had my subscription last year as well.
Autofocus for the front-cam, no doubt...
Biometric API is really bugging me and I bet we could wait a very, very long time before Devs start actually updating for it.
Nothing really. I thought I'd miss the LED, but I haven't really noticed it being gone much. The fingerprint sensor some, but mainly because a lot of my apps use it. Definitely miss the convenience of it. I'll be very happy once they start using the new API. I sort of miss the metal back of the 2xl. But, wireless charging is awesome, so it's kind of a toss up.
I DEFINITELY don't miss the notch on the 3. I didn't think it bothered me, until I got this phone. Now I can't understand how I went a full year with it...
At least for as long as only a few apps support biometric unlocking, it definitely is the fingerprint scanner. But I'm sure it's only a medium-term loss, and we'll see more apps being able to use biometric unlock very soon.

Improve face unlock

Anyone have problem with face unlock about bad angles or not working under bright sunlight! Just set up face unlock under direct sunlight! make sure sunlight sight direct into your face when setting up. Hope that's helpful, it works for me at least
Ps: if you are wearing glasses, put them on when setup.
My biggest issue with face unlock is random challenge to unlock with PIN for "added security".
I say random because I've not rebooted the phone. The message is different when rebooting. I've sent numerous feedback with logs to Google but Google doesn't respond to feedback. I have no idea why this happens. It's annoying. This can happen as often as once a day at random unless I'm missing the reason for it. Maybe it works for days without error. Maybe this is required at intervals I've not recognized?
Patterns I've noticed otherwise include a pause to unlock when I grab my phone and it's upside down. It usually gives me time to recognize this and get screen upright. My phone is usually on a stand upright in portrait mode so it's rare that I pick it up with screen not orientated correctly.
I've not tried setting up face unlock in bright setting though.
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samep said:
My biggest issue with face unlock is random challenge to unlock with PIN for "added security".
I say random because I've not rebooted the phone. The message is different when rebooting. I've sent numerous feedback with logs to Google but Google doesn't respond to feedback. I have no idea why this happens. It's annoying. This can happen as often as once a day at random unless I'm missing the reason for it. Maybe it works for days without error. Maybe this is required at intervals I've not recognized?
Patterns I've noticed otherwise include a pause to unlock when I grab my phone and it's upside down. It usually gives me time to recognize this and get screen upright. My phone is usually on a stand upright in portrait mode so it's rare that I pick it up with screen not orientated correctly.
I've not tried setting up face unlock in bright setting though.
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your problems is totally different with what I mean to. However, It think your problem could be from software or setting. you would reset your phone. And if that keep going, using google warranty is best choice.
nguaogioi said:
your problems is totally different with what I mean to. However, It think your problem could be from software or setting. you would reset your phone. And if that keep going, using google warranty is best choice.
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Thanks. I should talk to Google Pixel support again. I've been reluctant since they couldn't resolve an issue with Google Home app. They referred me to Google Home app support but they kept getting stuck on the fact they support hardware, not the app. I could link Google and Philips Hue but couldn't add Philips Hue to Google Home app. Failing every time.
Long story but the mobile apps kept telling me that that there was an issue getting provider information for Philips Hue. Yet it went through all the steps and failed at the end, never adding Philips Hue. This once worked until it stopped; nothing I was doing was working, even asking Google and Philips for support was pointless with them refusing to talk to each other or continue support with me until resolution. One day my phone had a notification to control my lights and the linking and final step worked that time. I followed the notification and seemingly skipped several steps I've went through to failure but this time everything went as expected and I can control my lights again. Finally! What was the issue? Google won't say but I suspect they discovered it long after I gave up. Months!
I've seen face unlock improvements in the notes of the monthly updates so I've thought Google is aware but like before, not on my timetable. Low priority. With my past slate now clean, start a new one.
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samep said:
My biggest issue with face unlock is random challenge to unlock with PIN for "added security".
I say random because I've not rebooted the phone. The message is different when rebooting. I've sent numerous feedback with logs to Google but Google doesn't respond to feedback. I have no idea why this happens. It's annoying. This can happen as often as once a day at random unless I'm missing the reason for it. Maybe it works for days without error. Maybe this is required at intervals I've not recognized?
Patterns I've noticed otherwise include a pause to unlock when I grab my phone and it's upside down. It usually gives me time to recognize this and get screen upright. My phone is usually on a stand upright in portrait mode so it's rare that I pick it up with screen not orientated correctly.
I've not tried setting up face unlock in bright setting though.
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The issue you explained about the seemingly random pin requirement is actually not an issue at all. It's coded into the software as an extra security measure. If you lock your phone and do not unlock it for XXX amount of time (eg. 1 hour) then the phone requires your pin or pattern to verify its still you and your phone hasn't been physically compromised. The other trigger for this happening is at or around 6 hours since the last time your pin was physically entered, it will require you to enter it for the same reasons I listed before. Using face unlock doesn't reset the 6 hours, only physically entering your pin code will.
Hope this helps you understand a little better what's going on with your phone. We all have the same thing happen to us, just most don't notice it when it happens.
1dopewrx05 said:
The issue you explained about the seemingly random pin requirement is actually not an issue at all. It's coded into the software as an extra security measure. If you lock your phone and do not unlock it for XXX amount of time (eg. 1 hour) then the phone requires your pin or pattern to verify its still you and your phone hasn't been physically compromised. The other trigger for this happening is at or around 6 hours since the last time your pin was physically entered, it will require you to enter it for the same reasons I listed before. Using face unlock doesn't reset the 6 hours, only physically entering your pin code will.
Hope this helps you understand a little better what's going on with your phone. We all have the same thing happen to us, just most don't notice it when it happens.
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Your hour or six a guess, estimation or actual?
What you described seems true but my use would likely indicate more quiring for PIN than I experience. Just asking.
But if this is intent, I don't agree PIN is added security. Sure face ID can be duped in many ways but at the very least what I'd prefer is safe zone like home where face unlock never dupes to PIN or added security. As I recall, total unlock is only option for designated safe zone like home, unless considering Bluetooth device which I don't prefer unless it can distinguish my Fitbit Versa 2 watch is very near and worn?
Surely there's less invasive methods users can deploy to not be so inconvenienced at home. I've even seen this at work with my wife's iPhone X. More choices seems a logical approach to consider. Why hasn't it?
Phone on charger just now, after just talking to Google Assistant, give a smart home command it interprets correctly, the smart assistant says sure, after you unlock your phone. I dismiss the Google Assistant and promptly unlock my phone without the stupid PIN. Not being very user friendly. I'm under the impression many developers don't just use the device and rethink their intents to be most user friendly.
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I feel like I don't see this message more than twice a week... which certainly goes against the every 6 hours idea. My impression was that sometimes movement or Soli will wake it up and it sees something it thinks is a face but it can't unlock with it. If it sees this enough, it may prompt for a PIN unlock with the different message. But sometimes, I think I see this message taking it out of my pocket... where it can't possibly see a face. But maybe it saw part of my face as I was putting it in. It would be interesting to know what the actual rules are regarding this.
I know that when I have the screen upside down, the screen wakes but gives me time to get it upright. Seconds. I don't recall seeing this fail me, thankfully.
I don't have much or any of the Soli features enabled but have screen tap to wake and skip unlock screen enabled.
I've wondered if having the generic stand was causing random face unlock errors but reach for phone is disabled. And I've tried placing my screen down flat instead of the stand and still got prompts to unlock with PIN.
Sometimes I grab my phone and tap to wake doesn't work. But it doesn't mean I get a prompt for PIN every time either. Yesterday, I tapped on the screen repeatedly and it woke and unlocked when it recognized my face. Maybe it's a latent response but I'm usually using the power button to wake by then.
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So I did a chat with Pixel support today.
For the issues with frequent queries for PIN and Voice Assistant asking me to unlock my phone first, the agent had me delete storage and cache for Google and Phone app, delete face unlock and add it back. Reboot phone and get back with them if this doesn't help.
The agent indicated there's not a timer that cannot be reset with unlock that would naturally challenge for PIN after counting down. His advice is to do the above for that issue. The face unlock is suspect. I hadn't done this until today. For kicks, I tried it outside in daylight though the agent didn't recommend this idea. Fwiw, I can unlock my phone in the dark but maybe daylight helps better see contours of the face.
I have a case number to chat again if this continues. Agent says it shouldn't reoccur.
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I only have a basic understanding of how face unlock works... but from what I understand it uses an IR dot projector and two IR cameras to stereoscopically sense the depth of your face. This is why it works in the dark to begin with and based on this, I would think direct sunlight would be a detriment rather than a boon in this sensing method. But it may not have any effect at all as I don't know exactly how the sun and the dot projector overlap in wavelength and strength.
Having a "bad" face calibration might explain it as the phone is more often unconfident about it being your face. So it triggers more failures which prompts the increased security message.
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I only have a basic understanding of how face unlock works... but from what I understand it uses an IR dot projector and two IR cameras to stereoscopically sense the depth of your face. This is why it works in the dark to begin with and based on this, I would think direct sunlight would be a detriment rather than a boon in this sensing method. But it may not have any effect at all as I don't know exactly how the sun and the dot projector overlap in wavelength and strength.
Having a "bad" face calibration might explain it as the phone is more often unconfident about it being your face. So it triggers more failures which prompts the increased security message.
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Agreed. It's unknown if added light is a help, hindrance or placebo. But the agent seemed confident just replacing the face unlock would solve my issues.
Not all of my issues sounded familiar was the reason for suggested extra storage wipes and reboot.
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I spoke from my experience. Before that if i will to unlock i have to keep it direct to my face as the right distance or angles and it hardly work with changing light conditions like under direct sunlight. But after set up with aid from sunlight i could say it work quick and more reliable as my iphone xr even in dark or direct sunlight.
I dont know if that is hardware or software problems.
73 hours of uptime. Random PIN for added security prompt has returned when Google Pixel support said it shouldn't after deleting and adding face unlock.
Taking my case ID back to Pixel support. I'm not sure the agent was right about face unlock not occasionally duping to PIN unlock. Very annoying if this is intended or not.
72 hour bug?
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So my Pixel 4 XL face unlock did the same prompt for pin after another 72 hours. No reboot; no error or explanation why other than added security. I'm at 146 hours uptime.
I asked Pixel support again about this. They're researching but want me to do a factory reset now and get back to them.
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[Dev] What Apps would you like to run on the Cover Screen?

Hi Guys! If you could, what Apps would you like to run on your cover screen, given that it's really small or what type of information you wish you could access from the cover screen?
I am a developer, so maybe, just maybe I will be your genie to your wishlist of cover screen apps.
Go ahead, be as creative as you could be! I look forward to hear ideas other than using the Cover Screen as a Notification LED please.
there is no native android support outside screen... so you can't to do anything...
if you are wizard - make please for start AOD on cover screen
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there is no native android support outside screen... so you can't to do anything...
if you are wizard - make please for start AOD on cover screen
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I obviously can do some magic.
That's why here to collect ideas which the actual users may would like to see, I won't be super keen on AOD implementation as that would eat up battery, but sure, could be an option. I have my own list of to-dos for the first version of the Super App, just want to see what users come up with.
something can toggle wifi Bluetooth sound flashlight.....
I used aod on all my samsungs. and even on large screens it didn't add much to the battery drain. But how many forums I read, most users are at a loss why the small Samsung display, which is logical for aod, was not used in this model.
about adding functional - enabling bixby routines would be logical without opening the phone.
moji666 said:
something can toggle wifi Bluetooth sound flashlight.....
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Yes, they are nice ideas, noted already.
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I used aod on all my samsungs. and even on large screens it didn't add much to the battery drain. But how many forums I read, most users are at a loss why the small Samsung display, which is logical for aod, was not used in this model.
about adding functional - enabling bixby routines would be logical without opening the phone.
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Well, if Samsung natively implements sure, not much batter drain, but as a third-party developer there are limited access to the APIs (at least not without root.) But yeah, I will see what I can do about it. Bixiby routines, interesting.
I second the toggles for bluetooth/sound/flashlight. Also would like the notification ring as well.. like the ring we see when we charge it.
super. I hope you will finish this soon
Thanks forbyour work is it possible to choose thé number of lines of notification liké the Google assistant message (3 lines) and an vertical scrolling and longer time before extinction for notifications ?
Please
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Hi Guys! If you could, what Apps would you like to run on your cover screen, given that it's really small or what type of information you wish you could access from the cover screen?
I am a developer, so maybe, just maybe I will be your genie to your wishlist of cover screen apps.
Go ahead, be as creative as you could be! I look forward to hear ideas other than using the Cover Screen as a Notification LED please.
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any news?
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I have a couple days with the flip and for my confort don't spend to much effort to open and for the sake of won't scratch more often when I put on every surface close position, I semi-close pacman like position and put like a stand so the metal frame only touch the surface not the glass and that way when I have to open only use one hand to fully open.
But in that position all the notifications appear on the main screen, so no way to see what notification have, it's there a way to show the notifications on the second mini screen in open position?
I agree, just a simple AOD digital clock would be sweet
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I agree, just a simple AOD digital clock would be sweet
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Yes just like always on display all time that you choose if you want always on display all time on the outside screen even when its open.
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