Android 4.4 to target lower-memory devices - Samsung Galaxy Ace Plus S7500

Hey guys,
I stumbled across an article today, clearly stating that all phones with 512MB of RAM should run KitKat perfectly. Who knows? Maybe when Google releases their source-code, Samsung will open their eyes and update a large series of low-end devices including Ace Plus?
If you're interested in it, see thread here : http://android-developers.blogspot.com.es/2013/10/android-44-kitkat-and-updated-developer.html

I don't think so there is single hope for ace plus to get future KK update,
even if google release source code for 512 mb ram device samsung will probably give update to those device which currently running on JB.
Like galaxy young, fame etc...
the only thing that gives KK to this device is some dev will develop rom from google build or from CM. ​

Forget it :thumbdown:
Samsung Dropped support of S2 ,they have hundreds of devices WAAAAY better than trebon ,so you think they'll pay attention for trebon?
Please come on ,sincerely forget it
If I'll buy another phone ,surely it won't be Samsung ,just because of the lack of the suppprt :screwy:
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blinqipa said:
Forget it :thumbdown:
Samsung Dropped support of S2 ,they have hundreds of devices WAAAAY better than trebon ,so you think they'll pay attention for trebon?
Please come on ,sincerely forget it
If I'll buy another phone ,surely it won't be Samsung ,just because of the lack of the suppprt :screwy:
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nexus 5 is what you want

ShadowsDie said:
nexus 5 is what you want
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if someone gave me 400$ (approx.) I'd go with it , are there any donator for me :cyclops:

Yea, the nexus 5 is the thing to go for. It looks amazing

blinqipa said:
if someone gave me 400$ (approx.) I'd go with it , are there any donator for me :cyclops:
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i bought my lg with 500, and i had to chose between lg, s4, one and nexus 4.
but this was the best i saw in terms of design.
its not everything about updates, you have to like that phone
i had in my hands a s4 and its the worst phone i saw in a while, and i didn't saw any differences between the quad and octa core version

Would porting KitKat be harder than CM10.2? :S

Martins2759 said:
Would porting KitKat be harder than CM10.2? :S
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i asked in that and they told me wait the source or build the source

khaledreno said:
i asked in that and they told me wait the source or build the source
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Basically, DIY!
I think (in my ignorance) that there would be a lot less trouble managing to port kitkat. I mean, the kernel may make things harder, but hey, the performance would be much better than on CM10.1...
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Google launched KK with this few requirements trying to reduce the fragmentation on Android. Hopefully they'll encourage makers to try to update the most devices to this new version, but there's no doubt not all will comply and not everyone wants to continue supporting old devices that no longer generate money for them.
Still, if anyone plans or wants to buy a new device, why not donate your old one to TheWisp so he can continue with his great work.

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Confused..advice needed for Galaxy R

Hi friends,
I was thinking of buying Galaxy R. But wanted your review..How is this phone? and why very less development in this forum? I heard it will get Official ICS update in mid 2012..but over all would you guys recommend me this phone?
how is the battery life?
Would you guys recommend me this phone over SE neo V or xperia pro?
is it worth going for this phone for its dual core and nvidia GPU?
Any help would be appreciated
Thank You
There are already few similar threads on previous pages of this section.
Thanks but its been many days since anyone asked such question
and also now there r more users hence more view on this phone
Get it as soon as possible..The phone is running out of stock everywhere.
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venkatraman said:
Get it as soon as possible..The phone is running out of stock everywhere.
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Thinking to buy..but has few doubts...any answers would be great..
I hate Samsung's UI..its ugly to be frank...will definitely flash a nice looking ROM the day i will buy it
50+ views and only 2 replies? cmon guys...thinking of buying tomorrow..so have to decide tonite itself
arpith.fbi said:
Thinking to buy..but has few doubts...any answers would be great..
I hate Samsung's UI..its ugly to be frank...will definitely flash a nice looking ROM the day i will buy it
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Ugly? Seriously? It sexy to me. Its a good phone, but if you want more Dev support buy the 2X or wait for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Better than the Sony phones. Battery life depends on hour usage. Generally lasts a day. Worth buying. Less Dev support because it launched quite late and after the S2. So not many people bought it.
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Ugly? Seriously? It sexy to me. Its a good phone, but if you want more Dev support buy the 2X or wait for the Galaxy Nexus.
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I meant its UI is like their non-android phones(cheap phones)..they look alomost same...hence it doesnt feel gud
development is importart for me..i am coming from moto defy...lots of development happens over dere( 2nd rank in CyanogenMod ranking )
Galaxy R has got very good hardware..dunno y dev is so less...
HW is pretty decent! I have never had any single issue with this handset. Aftermarket development is unfortunately an Achilles heel for now, but it can change for better. FW is very good, stable, you can hardly notice any bugs. But yeah I admit touchwizz is really ugly. I came from HTC and I really preferred Sense UI. But sammy's stock roms have this advantage that they are quite easily customizable, and you don't have to be a dev to do that.
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I meant its UI is like their non-android phones(cheap phones)..they look alomost same...hence it doesnt feel gud
development is importart for me..i am coming from moto defy...lots of development happens over dere( 2nd rank in CyanogenMod ranking )
Galaxy R has got very good hardware..dunno y dev is so less...
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I am getting a Defy.....which makes me have 4 phones.....as you can see in my sig XD
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
EmoBoiix3 said:
I am getting a Defy.....which makes me have 4 phones.....as you can see in my sig XD
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
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Welcome to the club
Moto defy is awesome but i was looking for 2nd phone..looks like Samsung are gonna dump Galaxy R very soon according to General Manager ( Sales) India.
Galaxy S III will be launched soon with the price tag of around 34K INR
Any other samsung device would u guys suggest in place of galaxy R?
arpith.fbi said:
Welcome to the club
Moto defy is awesome but i was looking for 2nd phone..looks like Samsung are gonna dump Galaxy R very soon according to General Manager ( Sales) India.
Galaxy S III will be launched soon with the price tag of around 34K INR
Any other samsung device would u guys suggest in place of galaxy R?
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Perhaps the Sensation.....but I've heard about frequent crashes due to a CPU bug , though a fix is available....
Herpderp Backflip.
Are u sure Samsung have stopped manufacturing galaxy r...Have Samsung confirmed it..
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Are u sure Samsung have stopped manufacturing galaxy r...Have Samsung confirmed it..
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dunno if they have stopped manufacturing as of now but heard that they will be stopping it very soon..
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dunno if they have stopped manufacturing as of now but heard that they will be stopping it very soon..
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Yes they have already stopped manufacturing i guess. Yesterday sulekha tech shared the specs on their facebook page for galaxy s advance and on asking if this is a replacement for Galaxy R, they said that Galaxy R has been stopped by samsung.No more would be availaible. I think the people who got it on time are lucky.
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Yes they have already stopped manufacturing i guess. Yesterday sulekha tech shared the specs on their facebook page for galaxy s advance and on asking if this is a replacement for Galaxy R, they said that Galaxy R has been stopped by samsung.No more would be availaible. I think the people who got it on time are lucky.
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Its a gud thing and a bad thing..
Good thing coz they got very nice hardware for gud price
Bad thing coz as there are less galaxy R hence less development
One more good thing is that it will get official ICS update
arpith.fbi said:
Its a gud thing and a bad thing..
Good thing coz they got very nice hardware for gud price
Bad thing coz as there are less galaxy R hence less development
One more good thing is that it will get official ICS update
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I agree with you. It was a very nice price for such hardware and regarding the rumours about the manufacturing defects. i think as long as they have manufacturers warranty there is nothing to get worried about.
another strange thing which i noticed is that people started buying more and more R from the time it started getting out of stock. Hope development doesn't stop.
ICS is really the best thing about it and truly speaking i am not much impressed by the Galaxy S advance whcih i think would be around 25-26k indian rupees. so S2 or even the Note would be better option for buyers.

Secondary phone to buy

Hello all,
I want to buy a new phone, because I always do some experiments to my G3 and don't have sometimes enough time to recover it from bootloop or something... I also don't want to leave G3 comunity because you're the best friends now
So I ask, which phone would you recommend to me? As daily driver... I would keep my g3 for developing and tweaking . My requirements are the same as for this phone + root-friendly (if you know what I mean ) + CM available for it... Also it shouldn't be as expensive as sgs3 or galaxy nexus, etc... It also should have bigger screen...
So, what do you guys think? I thought about byuing sgs i9000 as it has almost fully working JB...
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twinky444 said:
Hello all,
I want to buy a new phone, because I always do some experiments to my G3 and don't have sometimes enough time to recover it from bootloop or something... I also don't want to leave G3 comunity because you're the best friends now
So I ask, which phone would you recommend to me? As daily driver... I would keep my g3 for developing and tweaking . My requirements are the same as for this phone + root-friendly (if you know what I mean ) + CM available for it... Also it shouldn't be as expensive as sgs3 or galaxy nexus, etc... It also should have bigger screen...
So, what do you guys think? I thought about byuing sgs i9000 as it has almost fully working JB...
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hi buddy this is just my suggestion as quadcore phones are already there and getting better every day and single core phone are about to vanish so i feel it would be better if you think about dual core phone as it will not only provide your better performance that single core processor but also will be future proof and supported with future editions of android phones.
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hi buddy this is just my suggestion as quadcore phones are already there and getting better every day and single core phone are about to vanish so i feel it would be better if you think about dual core phone as it will not only provide your better performance that single core processor but also will be future proof and supported with future editions of android phones.
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Thanks, so, I'm going to save some more money, I'm sure it will be worth it then. I also don't want to go for SGSII because it has MMC_CAP_ERASE bug :silly:
Galaxy nexus is amazing and the development on their forums is amazing although you probably wont need to flash any rom or root the phone because it is already awesome and no bloatware since its a nexus
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twinky444 said:
Thanks, so, I'm going to save some more money, I'm sure it will be worth it then. I also don't want to go for SGSII because it has MMC_CAP_ERASE bug :silly:
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But if you will be working on the kernel, which have DISABLED CAP_ERASE (No superbrick bug), flashing ROMs, wiping data, Nandroid Backup is completely safe
I thought about buying the Asus Padfone (you will get tablet, keyboard and phone together), what do you think about it?
buy an another g3...
Click thanks if i helped you..
Nah, galaxy nexus would be the best phone you could buy IMO
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karipari95 said:
buy an another g3...
Click thanks if i helped you..
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I wont sell my G3! Never! As you said, I would by my g3 again, but now its the era of multi-core processors... And I thaught about buying something universal, just like Asus Padfone. Because it is someway just like notebook if I buy keyboard, so I will not need PC... (102 hours of battery with keyboard and tablet + phone together..)
Btw... THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR OPINIONS
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twinky444 said:
I wont sell my G3! Never! As you said, I would by my g3 again, but now its the era of multi-core processors... And I thaught about buying something universal, just like Asus Padfone. Because it is someway just like notebook if I buy keyboard, so I will not need PC... (102 hours of battery with keyboard and tablet + phone together..)
Btw... THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR OPINIONS
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hahaha....:laugh:
nice choice btw..:good:
lookin frwrd for ur more dev for our epic fone...:angel: G3 :angel:
Click thanks if i helped you..
twinky444 said:
Hello all,
I want to buy a new phone, because I always do some experiments to my G3 and don't have sometimes enough time to recover it from bootloop or something... I also don't want to leave G3 comunity because you're the best friends now
So I ask, which phone would you recommend to me? As daily driver... I would keep my g3 for developing and tweaking . My requirements are the same as for this phone + root-friendly (if you know what I mean ) + CM available for it... Also it shouldn't be as expensive as sgs3 or galaxy nexus, etc... It also should have bigger screen...
So, what do you guys think? I thought about byuing sgs i9000 as it has almost fully working JB...
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try Nexus or SGII. i'm also thinking of it )))))
twinky444 said:
I thought about buying the Asus Padfone (you will get tablet, keyboard and phone together), what do you think about it?
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But Asus Padfone is more expensive than the Nexus or SII
MicroGeek said:
Nah, galaxy nexus would be the best phone you could buy IMO
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Well, not fully agree
First - Nexus doesn't have slot for microsd card.
Secondly, the GPU is worse than the SII.
Thirdly - SII is more efficient.
Fourth - SII has better camera (8Mpix), Nexus - 5Mpix.
Nexus has higher screen resolution - 1280 × 720, but made in pentile technology.
Also, I'm wondering about these two phones, but more convinces me - Samsung Galaxy SII.
What do you think about Snapdragon S4 CPU and Adreno 225 CHIPSET? Just wondering how this will perform in Asus Padfone... I like the fact that this phone will get JB officially, but no forums here at xda...
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@up
This is a very good summary
Here you have nicely described:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/3
I have used the Galaxy s2 and galaxy nexus and i just prefer the feel of the nexus. It is very well built and the speed is very good. Also, its a nexus and nexus phones always get amazing development forums :good:
if someone want to do more reasearch with i-5801 phone and can't digest other models,
Its now Available thru vodafone @ Rs.4900/- which is 92 USD approx.
Did you buy a phone twinky444?
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Did you buy a phone twinky444?
Sent from my SG 580 powered by CM10.
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Not yet, instead of it I have HP Probook 4540s as for the price of Galaxy S3 here in Czech Republic. It's for school now. I'm happy with it I'm now writing on this notebook. Perfect keyboard!
However, galaxy nexus will probably follow. I don't want the Nexus 4 for the "bad screen responsiveness" bug.
PS: I won't EVER sell my Galaxy 3! Love this phone
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Not yet, instead of it I have HP Probook 4540s as for the price of Galaxy S3 here in Czech Republic. It's for school now. I'm happy with it I'm now writing on this notebook. Perfect keyboard!
However, galaxy nexus will probably follow. I don't want the Nexus 4 for the "bad screen responsiveness" bug.
PS: I won't EVER sell my Galaxy 3! Love this phone
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The pro book looks great and I also feel the same way about my g3 lol. I was thinking of getting a new phone but i decided to wait until marcelluse says if he's going to continue with cm10 development or any development on the g3. My parents gave me a tab 2 for Christmas so I'm not in a rush for a newer phone. I wished I could have donated to the devs for their work on the g3 for Christmas but I don't have a job I'm a student. I will try in the future
Happy new years by the way.
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I have a Nexus 4 and the dev over there is amazing. Yes if the micro-sd card slot and removal battery is a bumper, then this phone isn't for you. I would suggest the S2 or the Note 1. The Asus Padfone is a good choice but it makes sense when you have the tablet as well as the phone.
PS My Nexus 4 dosen't have any bugs.

Our end?

Today I saw at SamMobile a Article about the upcoming Galaxy Ace 3.
I think if this Phone really come we wont get any Devs anymore because it will be outdated.
Source: www.sammobile.com/2013/04/03/third-generation-galaxy-ace-device-upcoming/
Did gaalxy ace sink when galaxy ace + or ace 2 come ?
Rooobertinhooo said:
Did gaalxy ace sink when galaxy ace + or ace 2 come ?
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But they have had devs before, we don't. I think I will buy the new Nexus phone when it will release
And SGS3 is dead than. C'mon we didnt even started... to be endet.
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Can you post a link? I can't find the announcement.
Anyway, I thinks it's good that this line of phones is going to continue - if Sammy will keep value/money index with A3 it will be my next handset. I'll wait 3-4 months from introduction, sell Ace2 and buy Ace3. It will be equipped with 4.1+ android, IMO first mature version of android so there will be everything we need. Update to 4.2+ is not essential as main changes there are for tablets. I only hope that they will make the camera batter, i.e. more responsive, current version and lags in it are terrible
Hmph.. our phone will be like Galaxy w ( Good phone , single core 1.4 ghz ,forgotten phone ) but it gets CM :thumbup:
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So there is no Hope for our Phone?
Because i havent enough money to buy a new one but I really like Custom Roms like Cyanogenmod.
I think they will bring out an Ace 3 soon, the Ace 2 didn't sell very well over here. The Ace is still selling very fast in the UK! Still a really popular phone. My contract is up in August so I might consider it, that or an HTC. Maybe even WP, unlikely however.
I'm really interested to see what they do with the design!
Why are you afraid of? You have got great device for your money. Ace 2 would go to low end and Ace 3 will replace our device. Evolution, nothing new.
If you are afraid about of lack of development ... don't cause I do not think middle end devices (without support of producer) had ever proper development help. There are more than two devices which are close competitors to Ace 2 ... I mean SIII Mini and S Advanced and a whole bunch of Xperias. We still do not have working CM on Samsung middle class.
If I would like to have great support ... I would buy Nexus or any popular Sony phone. Ace 2 has just good size, its cheap and reliable device. With proper 4.1.2 ... I won't need more. If you buy Ace 3 ... it will be definately bigger ... it will get 4.1.2 right now and then ... maybe in a year Samsung would update it to next android. Samsung leaved such good devices like Galaxy S Plus or Galaxy W without support ... think about it choosing next Samsung phone.
1.2 GHz CPU dual core ? Maybe another Nova Thor -_- . Ace 2 is great phone but with this what we have got we need to start creating something better than stock ROM . OK , MC8 isn't so bad but our staff can be more powerful with longer battery life .
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1.2 GHz CPU dual core ? Maybe another Nova Thor -_- . Ace 2 is great phone but with this what we have got we need to start creating something better than stock ROM . OK , MC8 isn't so bad but our staff can be more powerful with longer battery life .
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My question is - what else do you need in this ROM? In my opinion in 4.1.2 we've got everything what we need. Give me certain examples what else do you need in custom ROM.
For me just give me a CM 10 and i will be happy.
grrigor said:
My question is - what else do you need in this ROM? In my opinion in 4.1.2 we've got everything what we need. Give me certain examples what else do you need in custom ROM.
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Look in features of Kyrillosv7b. There are all examples.
Also the long press back to kill app feature, which you can also find in CM is great.
Hot Boot is nice
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xXmyselfXx said:
Look in features of Kyrillosv7b. There are all examples.
Also the long press back to kill app feature, which you can also find in CM is great.
Hot Boot is nice
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Wrong example. Killing apps is totally stupid idea in Android.
grrigor said:
Wrong example. Killing apps is totally stupid idea in Android.
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Yup. Free RAM is WASTED RAM.
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Needs before wants
Need:
-Better performance
-Better battery life
-Bug-free
-Lag-free
-Less bloatware
Wants:
-More customizable UI
-Some amazing features other devices have
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uchihakurtz said:
Needs before wants
Need:
-Better performance
-Better battery life
-Bug-free
-Lag-free
-Less bloatware
Wants:
-More customizable UI
-Some amazing features other devices have
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I really can't understand people who wants to change Ace 2 into S4. If you want better battery life and amazing features - buy newer device - that is the manufacturer 's policy.
I am a true fan of CM, but I have a weird feeling, that many people thinks that CM can transform any phone into Galaxy S series, without spending any money - that is not the way it goes.
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My question is - what else do you need in this ROM? In my opinion in 4.1.2 we've got everything what we need. Give me certain examples what else do you need in custom ROM.
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Try to understand that everyone have diferent need's and own taste. When stock 4.1.2 is good enought to you, means that you are lucky guy, but you cant expect same for every other person. I like much more pure Android vision, and if know, before i buy Ace2, that we dont have CyanogenMod or AOSP, never buy it. But this is my mistake. So my need's is clear:
- pure Android
- better ram mangment
- better battery life
- more kernels
- theme chooser and so on....
That's my personal opinion.
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Try to understand that everyone have diferent need's and own taste. When stock 4.1.2 is good enought to you, means that you are lucky guy, but you cant expect same for every other person. I like much more pure Android vision, and if know, before i buy Ace2, that we dont have CyanogenMod or AOSP, never buy it. But this is my mistake. So my need's is clear:
- pure Android
- better ram mangment
- better battery life
- more kernels
- theme chooser and so on....
That's my personal opinion.
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Want all of that? Buy Nexus. Simple.
I can understand that many people want CM. Personally I also like it very much, but I hate situations, when a group of people is complaining about lack of Cyanogen on our device. If I am oriented into CM ROM's I am buying a device with expanded developer support (i.e. Nexus, as I said before).
On the other hand, a lot of people is thinking, that if we get official JB 4.1.2 from Samsung, we will "automatically" get CM 10 support. It isn't working like this - no one said that if we have JB, we will get CM. It is only a good will of CM Team.
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Wrong example. Killing apps is totally stupid idea in Android.
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Yes, agree if you want to have multi tasking. Automatic task killers are stupid, I agree. But sometimes I want to have a app closed and not running in background. For example a game which makes my phone laggy while it runs in background.
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grrigor said:
I really can't understand people who wants to change Ace 2 into S4. If you want better battery life and amazing features - buy newer device - that is the manufacturer 's policy.
I am a true fan of CM, but I have a weird feeling, that many people thinks that CM can transform any phone into Galaxy S series, without spending any money - that is not the way it goes.
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Ahahaha yes. Buy a phone which costs 300€ more...
I already have this phone and I want as much performance as possible. Is this too much willing?
Yes my next phone will be a nexus but only because it's very cheap. Galaxy nexus and S2 wasn't so cheap so I bought this phone. (nexus 4 wasn't out there)
So I'm happy with every rom which makes our phone better in performance and features...
EDIT. and if you don't want custom ROM's, why are you on xda? You better should be on sammobile if you only want newest official rom...
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Android 4.4 Galaxy S4 DISCUSSION

Alright guys, if you haven't already heard the awesome news, Google has finally released Android 4.4 KitKat along with the $350 16GB Nexus 5.
Let's make a few guesses, guys. From articles that I've read online, Google has already released open source AOSP sources for Android 4.4. The question is, when, do you think, we are going to receive this update officially on either TouchWiz or Google Edition models of the S4?
Also, since the source has been released, when do you think we'll see Android 4.4 KitKat in custom ROMs (CyanogenMod, AOKP, ParanoidAndroid, etc)?
Also, if you have any comments and questions, FEEL FREE TO USE THIS POST AS AN ALL AROUND DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC OF ANDROID 4.4. THANKS!
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According to the articles I read, it should be coming in the "next few weeks." I take that to read before xmas for the Google Edition ones.
For us lowly Canucks on Rogers, I figure we'll see it around July. =\
FYI
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-runtime-compiler-in-android-4-4/
And CM is already Sourcing it. But, not in a hurry atm
https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/HpXkXU98R7q
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FYI
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-runtime-compiler-in-android-4-4/
And CM is already Sourcing it. But, not in a hurry atm
https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/HpXkXU98R7q
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Dang, hopefully there'll be another series of developers who want to be on it as fast as possible. I need my 4.4!
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Considering most of us aren't evening running 4.3 yet I don't foresee AT&T rolling 4.4 anytime soon. Granted, those who are able to run custom rom's may be able to update to it in due time. But for the lot of us on MF3 we're going to fall behind unless by some miracle Samsung releases the keys at AT&T's discretion.
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Considering most of us aren't evening running 4.3 yet I don't foresee AT&T rolling 4.4 anytime soon. Granted, those who are able to run custom rom's may be able to update to it in due time. But for the lot of us on MF3 we're going to fall behind unless by some miracle Samsung releases the keys at AT&T's discretion.
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Yeah mf3 folks are at a disadvantage. I am on mj7 4.3. And 4.4 may be a month away. But yes 4.4 for att is a ways off. IMHO
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NighthawkXL said:
Considering most of us aren't evening running 4.3 yet I don't foresee AT&T rolling 4.4 anytime soon. Granted, those who are able to run custom rom's may be able to update to it in due time. But for the lot of us on MF3 we're going to fall behind unless by some miracle Samsung releases the keys at AT&T's discretion.
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Haha yeah, this is totally true. I'm extremely tempted to sell this S4 and get a damn Nexus, i mean exclusive updates and open source software - amazing!
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I bought a Nexus5 2 minutes into the sale. Going to be a hard decision whether to give it to my mom, or to give her my GS4, as she doesn't have a smartphone. I'm loving the google play edition rom on 4.3, and I'm not sure I'd want to part with the phone since it will get 4.4 anyway. The Google Play Edition really breathed life into the GS4 compared to the stock AT&T touchwiz 4.2 rom. It's like a completely different phone, except, unlike a custom rom, everything works, every time. No FC's.
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I bought a Nexus5 2 minutes into the sale. Going to be a hard decision whether to give it to my mom, or to give her my GS4, as she doesn't have a smartphone. I'm loving the google play edition rom on 4.3, and I'm not sure I'd want to part with the phone since it will get 4.4 anyway. The Google Play Edition really breathed life into the GS4 compared to the stock AT&T touchwiz 4.2 rom. It's like a completely different phone, except, unlike a custom rom, everything works, every time. No FC's.
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Yeah man, I feel ya! I'm actually running Kangabean GE 4.3 right now and a dual boot with the Omega 4.3 ROM. Touchwiz sure has its perks, but it just doesn't feel well and its quite ugly at times. Even though we don't get the cool air gesture features while running different forms of AOSP, I'd still say its safe to say that the S4 on Google Edition is one of the best phones to have. You have expandable memory and removable batteries, also hardware keys. The Nexus 5 lacks these things. I'm just hoping we get this 4.4 update soon, because I've been dying for it ever since it was rumored to come out!
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I couldn't justify biting the bullet and buying the Nexus 5...mainly because the developer base for flagship Samsung phones (S2, S3, and now S4) is so active.
I just had to keep reminding myself that I always end up with the latest nightly of CyanogenMod on every phone I own...so id be buying hardware spec upgrades and not much else (in regards to software since CM is eventually going to absorb 4.4 in its source base)
Man was it hard to say no though.....
I'm very excited for the GE edition to be coming out soon
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I couldn't justify biting the bullet and buying the Nexus 5...mainly because the developer base for flagship Samsung phones (S2, S3, and now S4) is so active.
I just had to keep reminding myself that I always end up with the latest nightly of CyanogenMod on every phone I own...so id be buying hardware spec upgrades and not much else (in regards to software since CM is eventually going to absorb 4.4 in its source base)
Man was it hard to say no though.....
I'm very excited for the GE edition to be coming out soon
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I'm still up in the air about it, I love my Galaxy S4... but that Nexus 5 looks super appealing. I'm going to give it another week of thought before making my decision. Hopefully, if I got for the Nexus 5 it won't be sold out by the time I sell my S4.
I was excited about the N5 until I read about the battery not being removable and that it STILL didn't have an SD slot...
I want to be able to service my phone if the battery becomes shot for whatever reason, and I don't want my class 10 32GB card sitting around uselessly...
Also, Paranoid Android is putting together builds already
https://plus.google.com/107979589566958860409/posts/EDz5GCxqgEM
According to them, the whole team bought the Nexus 5s!
Shawn7656 said:
I was excited about the N5 until I read about the battery not being removable and that it STILL didn't have an SD slot...
I want to be able to service my phone if the battery becomes shot for whatever reason, and I don't want my class 10 32GB card sitting around uselessly...
Also, Paranoid Android is putting together builds already
https://plus.google.com/107979589566958860409/posts/EDz5GCxqgEM
According to them, the whole team bought the Nexus 5s!
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Yeah seriously! The non removable battery is just a bad design flaw and I can't wait until Paranoid Android releases their newest builds. Too bad CM says they aren't ditching Android 4.3 for 4.4. Obviously they're ruining their own competition and PA is going to be WAAY ahead of them.
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Yeah seriously! The non removable battery is just a bad design flaw and I can't wait until Paranoid Android releases their newest builds. Too bad CM says they aren't ditching Android 4.3 for 4.4. Obviously they're ruining their own competition and PA is going to be WAAY ahead of them.
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You know what I kind of hate?
I want "the perfect" Android phone
Essentially its a hybrid of the S4 with Removable Battery, MicroSD, all that Jazz with the build Quality of a Sony Z1, Camera of a hybrid of the HTC One with its ultrapixel sensor and Nokia Lumia 1020 41MP camera, the unlocked stock Andriod of a Nexus and the smoothness/design of iOS/iPhone.....
Sigh............
Is kitkat good for rooting
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the devs can root them all
I wouldn't get you hopes up for anything before late next year...
TheAxman said:
I wouldn't get you hopes up for anything before late next year...
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We'll get 4.4 aosp builds in a few weeks no doubt, since 4.4 is coming to the Google Play Edition S4.
chaosclarity said:
We'll get 4.4 aosp builds in a few weeks no doubt, since 4.4 is coming to the Google Play Edition S4.
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Hmm, they can't even get to the G4's we have, you may see it in aosp, but it will still have the bugs that have haunted those roms for years.
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Is kitkat good for rooting
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No .its good to eat
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better sell your i9506 and look for alternative

i guess we wont be able to customize our s4 i9506 .nothing is happening in i9506 thread till date.and i dont wnt to get stuck with original firmware forever.so i just sold my i9506 and got new htc one.:highfive:
If you wanted a community of modders
Then buy a phone other people have
If you are in the UK, you should have got the 9505.
You should buy a second hand one
theunderling said:
If you are in the UK, you should have got the 9505.
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even the i9505 has a lack of mods/modders, especially kernels, dunno why...?
ICECOLDKILLAH said:
even the i9505 has a lack of mods/modders, especially kernels, dunno why...?
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I noticed this when upgrading from sgs3 to sgs4 last month.
I've noticed it as well. I miss the days of the S2 and siyah kernel. KT is the closest kernel were going to get to that kind of features. With the S5 due out soon a lot if devs are going to move on. This will be my last samsung. I'm tired of Sammy's ugly and bloated FWs
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Jrhoop said:
I noticed this when upgrading from sgs3 to sgs4 last month.
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yeah me too m8, when i upgraded from the s2 to the s3 i was happy afterwards, but now after the upgrade from the s3 to the s4...
symondo12 said:
I've noticed it as well. I miss the days of the S2 and siyah kernel. KT is the closest kernel were going to get to that kind of features. With the S5 due out soon a lot if devs are going to move on. This will be my last samsung. I'm tired of Sammy's ugly and bloated FWs
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yeah i remember the old s2 days with the siyah kernel too
actually i am also thinking about switching to anything else than samsung...
well I just bought the Xperia Z1, but still keeping the i9506 as second phone in case something happens, or if I don't like the Z1...
I too miss the sgs2 and sgs3 days. This will also be my last galaxy phone... All this knox-bulls* and bloated firmwares. But which manufacturer should I go to? HTC? Where's most developer activity?
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Where's most developer activity?
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Nexus devices.
oldblue910 said:
Nexus devices.
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Hmm.. the biggest advantage, from my point of view, of nexus devices are, they'll rather have support for upcoming OSs such as Ubuntu, Mozilla etc. because of AOSP(drivers etc.). Samsung/HTC/Sony on the other side have always their customized Android OS, which is also a good thing because they have to be absolutely stable.
My SHV-E330S(same as I9506) has not less mods than my old S2. I would say, it has much more mods than S2.
The only difference - you wait when someone will do this for you, while i do it by myself.
Actually, i don't see what is interesting in using already made custom ROM which has be made in someone's specific taste.
Today, there are much more devices than before. Thus, concentration of developers for particular device is less and less. If you want to get something interesting for particular device, you have to become one of such developers.
Otherwise, just get Nexus - it already has naked Android which most people here is looking for.
The only thing i miss for my I9506 is the kernel developement.But if you think better why would you OC the Krait 400?Isn`t the fastest CPU avalaible on the market?A kernel with udervoltage feature enabled would be perfect.For the rest...if you have root you can make it all by yourself.There are a lot of tutorials on the market explaining how you can port a custom ROM and a lot of mods and themes ar compatible for this phone from I9505 thread and Note 3.For short...i`m very satisfied with my I9506.Way faster and less battery draining than I9505.I have them both!
If no-one is porting a rom from either the Xperia Z1, or from the Note 3 wich at least have the same CPU, i will probably look into how to do this myself.. I bought the i9506 yesterday and thought there would be a custom rom allready, but no.. My old Optimus 4X HD is still in use, cause i really hate the Samsung menu system!
I9506
I am from India. My friend is getting me a I9506 from US for 490 dollars. is it a good deal? Will I get OTA updates on it?
toxicneo said:
I am from India. My friend is getting me a I9506 from US for 490 dollars. is it a good deal? Will I get OTA updates on it?
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Think no.. New samsung devices have a region lock by default..
If its a new device and is unlocked maybe, but u need to activate in your region for first use..
Dont know if device only run in US if ur friend activate the phone there..
If not, you'll need to unlock it and pray..
Other thing will be flash ur own firmwares but this will flag a 1 on knox void warranty efuse and cant receive OTAs..
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faiyo said:
If you wanted a community of modders
Then buy a phone other people have
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Yeah i just sold my s4i9506 and got htc one.which is much better than so called s4 with 800 snapdragon processer.it is weird that samsung having much more powerful processer than htc one is laggy;and the knox thing is pissing everyone off!!
I have been using htc one for last one week and i havent seen any lag yet.
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Sadly the data plan network on our country have no HTC One supplies, i would to get hands on it really. Also I am shock by the mods and also CM, i though Galaxy Line are the modfest.
Yes, I agree on this also.
I had an S3 before and I have to say that Devs were going crazy making new Roms/Tweaks and kernels almost every day!
I thought the GS4 would be even more crazier but turns out that it isn't. Should've got that Nexus 5 :|
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