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Secondary phone to buy

Hello all,
I want to buy a new phone, because I always do some experiments to my G3 and don't have sometimes enough time to recover it from bootloop or something... I also don't want to leave G3 comunity because you're the best friends now
So I ask, which phone would you recommend to me? As daily driver... I would keep my g3 for developing and tweaking . My requirements are the same as for this phone + root-friendly (if you know what I mean ) + CM available for it... Also it shouldn't be as expensive as sgs3 or galaxy nexus, etc... It also should have bigger screen...
So, what do you guys think? I thought about byuing sgs i9000 as it has almost fully working JB...
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twinky444 said:
Hello all,
I want to buy a new phone, because I always do some experiments to my G3 and don't have sometimes enough time to recover it from bootloop or something... I also don't want to leave G3 comunity because you're the best friends now
So I ask, which phone would you recommend to me? As daily driver... I would keep my g3 for developing and tweaking . My requirements are the same as for this phone + root-friendly (if you know what I mean ) + CM available for it... Also it shouldn't be as expensive as sgs3 or galaxy nexus, etc... It also should have bigger screen...
So, what do you guys think? I thought about byuing sgs i9000 as it has almost fully working JB...
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hi buddy this is just my suggestion as quadcore phones are already there and getting better every day and single core phone are about to vanish so i feel it would be better if you think about dual core phone as it will not only provide your better performance that single core processor but also will be future proof and supported with future editions of android phones.

tanmoyc said:
hi buddy this is just my suggestion as quadcore phones are already there and getting better every day and single core phone are about to vanish so i feel it would be better if you think about dual core phone as it will not only provide your better performance that single core processor but also will be future proof and supported with future editions of android phones.
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Thanks, so, I'm going to save some more money, I'm sure it will be worth it then. I also don't want to go for SGSII because it has MMC_CAP_ERASE bug :silly:

Galaxy nexus is amazing and the development on their forums is amazing although you probably wont need to flash any rom or root the phone because it is already awesome and no bloatware since its a nexus
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twinky444 said:
Thanks, so, I'm going to save some more money, I'm sure it will be worth it then. I also don't want to go for SGSII because it has MMC_CAP_ERASE bug :silly:
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But if you will be working on the kernel, which have DISABLED CAP_ERASE (No superbrick bug), flashing ROMs, wiping data, Nandroid Backup is completely safe

I thought about buying the Asus Padfone (you will get tablet, keyboard and phone together), what do you think about it?

buy an another g3...
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Nah, galaxy nexus would be the best phone you could buy IMO
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karipari95 said:
buy an another g3...
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I wont sell my G3! Never! As you said, I would by my g3 again, but now its the era of multi-core processors... And I thaught about buying something universal, just like Asus Padfone. Because it is someway just like notebook if I buy keyboard, so I will not need PC... (102 hours of battery with keyboard and tablet + phone together..)
Btw... THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR OPINIONS
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twinky444 said:
I wont sell my G3! Never! As you said, I would by my g3 again, but now its the era of multi-core processors... And I thaught about buying something universal, just like Asus Padfone. Because it is someway just like notebook if I buy keyboard, so I will not need PC... (102 hours of battery with keyboard and tablet + phone together..)
Btw... THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR OPINIONS
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hahaha....:laugh:
nice choice btw..:good:
lookin frwrd for ur more dev for our epic fone...:angel: G3 :angel:
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twinky444 said:
Hello all,
I want to buy a new phone, because I always do some experiments to my G3 and don't have sometimes enough time to recover it from bootloop or something... I also don't want to leave G3 comunity because you're the best friends now
So I ask, which phone would you recommend to me? As daily driver... I would keep my g3 for developing and tweaking . My requirements are the same as for this phone + root-friendly (if you know what I mean ) + CM available for it... Also it shouldn't be as expensive as sgs3 or galaxy nexus, etc... It also should have bigger screen...
So, what do you guys think? I thought about byuing sgs i9000 as it has almost fully working JB...
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try Nexus or SGII. i'm also thinking of it )))))

twinky444 said:
I thought about buying the Asus Padfone (you will get tablet, keyboard and phone together), what do you think about it?
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But Asus Padfone is more expensive than the Nexus or SII
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Nah, galaxy nexus would be the best phone you could buy IMO
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Well, not fully agree
First - Nexus doesn't have slot for microsd card.
Secondly, the GPU is worse than the SII.
Thirdly - SII is more efficient.
Fourth - SII has better camera (8Mpix), Nexus - 5Mpix.
Nexus has higher screen resolution - 1280 × 720, but made in pentile technology.
Also, I'm wondering about these two phones, but more convinces me - Samsung Galaxy SII.

What do you think about Snapdragon S4 CPU and Adreno 225 CHIPSET? Just wondering how this will perform in Asus Padfone... I like the fact that this phone will get JB officially, but no forums here at xda...
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@up
This is a very good summary
Here you have nicely described:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/3

I have used the Galaxy s2 and galaxy nexus and i just prefer the feel of the nexus. It is very well built and the speed is very good. Also, its a nexus and nexus phones always get amazing development forums :good:

if someone want to do more reasearch with i-5801 phone and can't digest other models,
Its now Available thru vodafone @ Rs.4900/- which is 92 USD approx.

Did you buy a phone twinky444?
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SamG3apollo said:
Did you buy a phone twinky444?
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Not yet, instead of it I have HP Probook 4540s as for the price of Galaxy S3 here in Czech Republic. It's for school now. I'm happy with it I'm now writing on this notebook. Perfect keyboard!
However, galaxy nexus will probably follow. I don't want the Nexus 4 for the "bad screen responsiveness" bug.
PS: I won't EVER sell my Galaxy 3! Love this phone

twinky444 said:
Not yet, instead of it I have HP Probook 4540s as for the price of Galaxy S3 here in Czech Republic. It's for school now. I'm happy with it I'm now writing on this notebook. Perfect keyboard!
However, galaxy nexus will probably follow. I don't want the Nexus 4 for the "bad screen responsiveness" bug.
PS: I won't EVER sell my Galaxy 3! Love this phone
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The pro book looks great and I also feel the same way about my g3 lol. I was thinking of getting a new phone but i decided to wait until marcelluse says if he's going to continue with cm10 development or any development on the g3. My parents gave me a tab 2 for Christmas so I'm not in a rush for a newer phone. I wished I could have donated to the devs for their work on the g3 for Christmas but I don't have a job I'm a student. I will try in the future
Happy new years by the way.
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I have a Nexus 4 and the dev over there is amazing. Yes if the micro-sd card slot and removal battery is a bumper, then this phone isn't for you. I would suggest the S2 or the Note 1. The Asus Padfone is a good choice but it makes sense when you have the tablet as well as the phone.
PS My Nexus 4 dosen't have any bugs.

i9500 Vs. i9505

Hi all ,
I know that question maybe already posted many times here in the forums but still can't find an answer
I might give my little brother the Galaxy Note II i have now - which is the best device i ever used BTW - and start searching for a new device to get ,,, although i like HTC ONE and Xperia Z but Samsung devices has another taste with the ton of features they put into the phone
as the Note 3 expected to be around 1000USD which is a very high price and won't get a better price soon so i have to stick with Galaxy S4
The question is , Which one shall i get ? 9500 or 9505
4G isn't available yet at my country and don't care about it that much ,,, most reviews said that the 9500 Octa is slightly better than SD600 one , also found that camera in 9500 is better than 9505 but i guess that this is all software issues
Which one gets official updates from Samsung 1st ??!! which one is supported more from developers here in XDA ??!!
Please help me with your experience with both devices
Thanks

MohamedYousri said:
Hi all ,
I know that question maybe already posted many times here in the forums but still can't find an answer
I might give my little brother the Galaxy Note II i have now - which is the best device i ever used BTW - and start searching for a new device to get ,,, although i like HTC ONE and Xperia Z but Samsung devices has another taste with the ton of features they put into the phone
as the Note 3 expected to be around 1000USD which is a very high price and won't get a better price soon so i have to stick with Galaxy S4
The question is , Which one shall i get ? 9500 or 9505
4G isn't available yet at my country and don't care about it that much ,,, most reviews said that the 9500 Octa is slightly better than SD600 one , also found that camera in 9500 is better than 9505 but i guess that this is all software issues
Which one gets official updates from Samsung 1st ??!! which one is supported more from developers here in XDA ??!!
Please help me with your experience with both devices
Thanks
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It really depends on how you plan to use the device, but if you plan on running CM or AOSP ROMs the choice is clear: 9505 all the way. The Exynos Octa is a bad joke at this point (no flames please) because of the problems inherent in the hardware that cannot and will not be fixed. I will never touch another Exynos based device with a ten foot pole.

I already have the new Nexus 7 , so i can taste the pure JB & Kitkat at it
I like the features that Samsung added in top of Android and TouchWiz UI
I remeber that i tried CM at S3 and Note II for a few days and i was back to the stock ROM so i guess that i will note use the CM or AOSP that much
Is this the only problem with 9500 and Exynos or do you recommend 9505 in general for other reasons

MohamedYousri said:
I already have the new Nexus 7 , so i can taste the pure JB & Kitkat at it
I like the features that Samsung added in top of Android and TouchWiz UI
I remeber that i tried CM at S3 and Note II for a few days and i was back to the stock ROM so i guess that i will note use the CM or AOSP that much
Is this the only problem with 9500 and Exynos or do you recommend 9505 in general for other reasons
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That's it, the hardware problem he mentioned is the cpu's inability to use all 8 cores at the same time, only 4 at once, but the performance is still super fast and it has better gaming performance than the 9505(that's what i've heard at least)
But the 9505 always gets updates before the 9500 as far as i know
But if i were you i would be saving for the note 3, its the best option for you, i know it might be too expensive but if you find any other way to get it cheaper then dont hesitate, i dont think you will be comfortable going from a galaxy note 2 to an s4
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negrobembon said:
That's it, the hardware problem he mentioned is the cpu's inability to use all 8 cores at the same time, only 4 at once, but the performance is still super fast and it has better gaming performance than the 9505(that's what i've heard at least)
But the 9505 always gets updates before the 9500 as far as i know
But if i were you i would be saving for the note 3, its the best option for you, i know it might be too expensive but if you find any other way to get it cheaper then dont hesitate, i dont think you will be comfortable going from a galaxy note 2 to an s4
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i already feel that moving from Note 2 to S4 isn't a good decision ,,, although the 1080p Screen and faster performance in general but there is something strange about Note that u can't imagine yourself using other device :good: but right know it's the only option for me
i will have to wait at least 3~4 months to get the Note 3 in a reasonable price ,, if i can live with the Xperia Mini and New Nexus 7 i will till i can get the Note 3
9505 is getting the official updates before 9500 ??!! interesting , i thought that Samsung keep both updated at the same schedule or with month or month and half max or 9500 is updated first as it's the international version
still can't decide which one shall i get
i hate Samsung for this kind of thing

MohamedYousri said:
i already feel that moving from Note 2 to S4 isn't a good decision ,,, although the 1080p Screen and faster performance in general but there is something strange about Note that u can't imagine yourself using other device :good: but right know it's the only option for me
i will have to wait at least 3~4 months to get the Note 3 in a reasonable price ,, if i can live with the Xperia Mini and New Nexus 7 i will till i can get the Note 3
9505 is getting the official updates before 9500 ??!! interesting , i thought that Samsung keep both updated at the same schedule or with month or month and half max or 9500 is updated first as it's the international version
still can't decide which one shall i get
i hate Samsung for this kind of thing
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No, the difference in updates its like a week or two, and youre right there is something about using notes that makes it hard to use smaller devices
Its definitely the screen size, i personally wont buy a phone with a screen size smaller than 4.7, ive been spoiled lol
And the performance difference between the note 2 and the s4 wont be that big
Now the performance difference between the note 2 and the note 3 will be enormous, if youre going to upgrade then that's an upgrade
I would keep the note 2 until the 3 gets cheaper or sell the 2 to buy the 3
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negrobembon said:
No, the difference in updates its like a week or two, and youre right there is something about using notes that makes it hard to use smaller devices
Its definitely the screen size, i personally wont buy a phone with a screen size smaller than 4.7, ive been spoiled lol
And the performance difference between the note 2 and the s4 wont be that big
Now the performance difference between the note 2 and the note 3 will be enormous, if youre going to upgrade then that's an upgrade
I would keep the note 2 until the 3 gets cheaper or sell the 2 to buy the 3
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i am forced to leave the Note 2 to my brother as he needs a new device and mine still as new and i found that it's a chance to get a new phone ,, he will pay me of-course for the Note 2 and don't like that we both have the same device if i or him got another Note 2
but still the Note 3 is double the price as Note 2 and it will be a waste for money to get it while it's launch and watching it's price drops in front of my eyes
i was thinking that i can get S4 for now and after while when Note 3 price is good enough i sell the S4 for Note 3 but i found myself can't choose between 9500 and 9505

If you use touchwiz then buy the i9500, if you use any other rom then the 9505
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negrobembon said:
If you use touchwiz then buy the i9500, if you use any other rom then the 9505
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Used SIII for 6 months and now Note II for 5 months all with Stock ROM , Just Root

negrobembon said:
That's it, the hardware problem he mentioned is the cpu's inability to use all 8 cores at the same time, only 4 at once, but the performance is still super fast and it has better gaming performance than the 9505(that's what i've heard at least)
But the 9505 always gets updates before the 9500 as far as i know
But if i were you i would be saving for the note 3, its the best option for you, i know it might be too expensive but if you find any other way to get it cheaper then dont hesitate, i dont think you will be comfortable going from a galaxy note 2 to an s4
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The hardware problem (CCI-400 issue) is what the SoC runs on cluster migration and not on core migration.
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i9505 has LTE & a lot custom ROM see the forums

MohamedYousri said:
Used SIII for 6 months and now Note II for 5 months all with Stock ROM , Just Root
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You'll be very happy with the I9500 then. Thoroughly enjoying mine, not bothered about custom ROMs and all that personally, ran stock with no issue on both my GS2 and GS3, doing the same with the GS4, although I did experiment with the GS2 a bit, but went back to stock.
The benefits of I9500:
Sony Exmor RS camera sensor with [email protected] slo-mo vid
HEVC H.265 codec support
Wolfson DAC audio chip
Very powerful
Great batt life

will it's still confusing , some reviews says that the SD600 is better others says that the Octa is better
almost all reviews agrees that the Octa is better in Camera , Sound and overall performance , after Samsung software updates the heat was gone from the Octa version and device performance is more better now
Battery is better at the 9505 but i guess it's OK with me ,, moving from Note 2 3100 to S4 2600 battery is a disaster any way so it's not a big deal the difference between 2 devices
still can't find info about software updates , Which device receives updates first ??! 9500 or 9505 ?!
the difference in price isn't that much it's around 50~60USD so it's not a big deal
Confused
Update :
Found articles stating that Exynos 5 Octa uses an Imagination PowerVR GPU and this GPU doesn't support OpenGL ES 3.0 which is supported in Android 4.3 but the SD600 Adreno 320 is fully OpenGL 3.0 compatible and i guess that this will have a differance in games that needs OpenGL ES 3.0 and overall graphic performance

I had white 9500 from june, two days ago i decided to take the balck colour, soo this time i went with 9505, all i can say they are almost the same on daily use, didnt try hard games on 9505 yet, 9500 was great device, i havent any issue with that, reason why i took 9505: open gl 3.0 support, more devs, open source SOC, but i can never say 9500 is bad, both are awesome
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xhaniGS2 said:
I had white 9500 from june, two days ago i decided to take the balck colour, soo this time i went with 9505, all i can say they are almost the same on daily use, didnt try hard games on 9505 yet, 9500 was great device, i havent any issue with that, reason why i took 9505: open gl 3.0 support, more devs, open source SOC, but i can never say 9500 is bad, both are awesome
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What about camera performance ??!! is it the same after software updates , or as most reviews says that the Octa is better than the SD600 ?!

I really dont know, i used 9500 a lot, awesome camera, i took some with 9505, for me its the same, but im not a profesional photografer to see diferences between those two. For me they are the same.
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xhaniGS2 said:
I really dont know, i used 9500 a lot, awesome camera, i took some with 9505, for me its the same, but im not a profesional photografer to see diferences between those two. For me they are the same.
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may you please upload a photo from each device to compare the quality
it's really annoying choosing from both versions , it seems like choosing from a two difference devices !!

MohamedYousri said:
may you please upload a photo from each device to compare the quality
it's really annoying choosing from both versions , it seems like choosing from a two difference devices !!
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Actually these are completely different devices
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Grarak said:
Actually these are completely different devices
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Yes, they are not the same devices, their look is same and perform almost the same, maybe im wrong.
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i9500
*Better Camera
*Better Performance
-No OpenGL ES 3.0 Support
-Battery consumption higher than 9505
i9505
*Better Battery Life
*OpenGL ES 3.0 Supported
*Better Dev. Support
*Easy to be modified to 9505G Google Edition
*4G Support
-Lower performance than 9500
-Camera is not as good as 9500

Android 4.4 to target lower-memory devices

Hey guys,
I stumbled across an article today, clearly stating that all phones with 512MB of RAM should run KitKat perfectly. Who knows? Maybe when Google releases their source-code, Samsung will open their eyes and update a large series of low-end devices including Ace Plus?
If you're interested in it, see thread here : http://android-developers.blogspot.com.es/2013/10/android-44-kitkat-and-updated-developer.html

I don't think so there is single hope for ace plus to get future KK update,
even if google release source code for 512 mb ram device samsung will probably give update to those device which currently running on JB.
Like galaxy young, fame etc...
the only thing that gives KK to this device is some dev will develop rom from google build or from CM. ​

Forget it :thumbdown:
Samsung Dropped support of S2 ,they have hundreds of devices WAAAAY better than trebon ,so you think they'll pay attention for trebon?
Please come on ,sincerely forget it
If I'll buy another phone ,surely it won't be Samsung ,just because of the lack of the suppprt :screwy:
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blinqipa said:
Forget it :thumbdown:
Samsung Dropped support of S2 ,they have hundreds of devices WAAAAY better than trebon ,so you think they'll pay attention for trebon?
Please come on ,sincerely forget it
If I'll buy another phone ,surely it won't be Samsung ,just because of the lack of the suppprt :screwy:
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nexus 5 is what you want

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nexus 5 is what you want
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if someone gave me 400$ (approx.) I'd go with it , are there any donator for me :cyclops:

Yea, the nexus 5 is the thing to go for. It looks amazing

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if someone gave me 400$ (approx.) I'd go with it , are there any donator for me :cyclops:
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i bought my lg with 500, and i had to chose between lg, s4, one and nexus 4.
but this was the best i saw in terms of design.
its not everything about updates, you have to like that phone
i had in my hands a s4 and its the worst phone i saw in a while, and i didn't saw any differences between the quad and octa core version

Would porting KitKat be harder than CM10.2? :S

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Would porting KitKat be harder than CM10.2? :S
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i asked in that and they told me wait the source or build the source

khaledreno said:
i asked in that and they told me wait the source or build the source
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Basically, DIY!
I think (in my ignorance) that there would be a lot less trouble managing to port kitkat. I mean, the kernel may make things harder, but hey, the performance would be much better than on CM10.1...
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Google launched KK with this few requirements trying to reduce the fragmentation on Android. Hopefully they'll encourage makers to try to update the most devices to this new version, but there's no doubt not all will comply and not everyone wants to continue supporting old devices that no longer generate money for them.
Still, if anyone plans or wants to buy a new device, why not donate your old one to TheWisp so he can continue with his great work.

better sell your i9506 and look for alternative

i guess we wont be able to customize our s4 i9506 .nothing is happening in i9506 thread till date.and i dont wnt to get stuck with original firmware forever.so i just sold my i9506 and got new htc one.:highfive:

If you wanted a community of modders
Then buy a phone other people have

If you are in the UK, you should have got the 9505.

You should buy a second hand one

theunderling said:
If you are in the UK, you should have got the 9505.
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even the i9505 has a lack of mods/modders, especially kernels, dunno why...?

ICECOLDKILLAH said:
even the i9505 has a lack of mods/modders, especially kernels, dunno why...?
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I noticed this when upgrading from sgs3 to sgs4 last month.

I've noticed it as well. I miss the days of the S2 and siyah kernel. KT is the closest kernel were going to get to that kind of features. With the S5 due out soon a lot if devs are going to move on. This will be my last samsung. I'm tired of Sammy's ugly and bloated FWs
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Jrhoop said:
I noticed this when upgrading from sgs3 to sgs4 last month.
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yeah me too m8, when i upgraded from the s2 to the s3 i was happy afterwards, but now after the upgrade from the s3 to the s4...
symondo12 said:
I've noticed it as well. I miss the days of the S2 and siyah kernel. KT is the closest kernel were going to get to that kind of features. With the S5 due out soon a lot if devs are going to move on. This will be my last samsung. I'm tired of Sammy's ugly and bloated FWs
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yeah i remember the old s2 days with the siyah kernel too
actually i am also thinking about switching to anything else than samsung...

well I just bought the Xperia Z1, but still keeping the i9506 as second phone in case something happens, or if I don't like the Z1...

I too miss the sgs2 and sgs3 days. This will also be my last galaxy phone... All this knox-bulls* and bloated firmwares. But which manufacturer should I go to? HTC? Where's most developer activity?
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sackynuts said:
Where's most developer activity?
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Nexus devices.

oldblue910 said:
Nexus devices.
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Hmm.. the biggest advantage, from my point of view, of nexus devices are, they'll rather have support for upcoming OSs such as Ubuntu, Mozilla etc. because of AOSP(drivers etc.). Samsung/HTC/Sony on the other side have always their customized Android OS, which is also a good thing because they have to be absolutely stable.

My SHV-E330S(same as I9506) has not less mods than my old S2. I would say, it has much more mods than S2.
The only difference - you wait when someone will do this for you, while i do it by myself.
Actually, i don't see what is interesting in using already made custom ROM which has be made in someone's specific taste.
Today, there are much more devices than before. Thus, concentration of developers for particular device is less and less. If you want to get something interesting for particular device, you have to become one of such developers.
Otherwise, just get Nexus - it already has naked Android which most people here is looking for.

The only thing i miss for my I9506 is the kernel developement.But if you think better why would you OC the Krait 400?Isn`t the fastest CPU avalaible on the market?A kernel with udervoltage feature enabled would be perfect.For the rest...if you have root you can make it all by yourself.There are a lot of tutorials on the market explaining how you can port a custom ROM and a lot of mods and themes ar compatible for this phone from I9505 thread and Note 3.For short...i`m very satisfied with my I9506.Way faster and less battery draining than I9505.I have them both!

If no-one is porting a rom from either the Xperia Z1, or from the Note 3 wich at least have the same CPU, i will probably look into how to do this myself.. I bought the i9506 yesterday and thought there would be a custom rom allready, but no.. My old Optimus 4X HD is still in use, cause i really hate the Samsung menu system!

I9506
I am from India. My friend is getting me a I9506 from US for 490 dollars. is it a good deal? Will I get OTA updates on it?

toxicneo said:
I am from India. My friend is getting me a I9506 from US for 490 dollars. is it a good deal? Will I get OTA updates on it?
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Think no.. New samsung devices have a region lock by default..
If its a new device and is unlocked maybe, but u need to activate in your region for first use..
Dont know if device only run in US if ur friend activate the phone there..
If not, you'll need to unlock it and pray..
Other thing will be flash ur own firmwares but this will flag a 1 on knox void warranty efuse and cant receive OTAs..
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faiyo said:
If you wanted a community of modders
Then buy a phone other people have
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Yeah i just sold my s4i9506 and got htc one.which is much better than so called s4 with 800 snapdragon processer.it is weird that samsung having much more powerful processer than htc one is laggy;and the knox thing is pissing everyone off!!
I have been using htc one for last one week and i havent seen any lag yet.
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Sadly the data plan network on our country have no HTC One supplies, i would to get hands on it really. Also I am shock by the mods and also CM, i though Galaxy Line are the modfest.

Yes, I agree on this also.
I had an S3 before and I have to say that Devs were going crazy making new Roms/Tweaks and kernels almost every day!
I thought the GS4 would be even more crazier but turns out that it isn't. Should've got that Nexus 5 :|
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where are the developers?

Hello
I got my Note 3 on 01/12/2013, I was quite excited to own such a powerful device with specs that no competitor can match. So naturally I assumed that the device will attract a lot a of developer support, I did notice that the forums were running short of AOSP based ROMs and there were only a few TW based ROMS. However I thought things would pick up in the new year and more developers would come to the party......but that hasn't happened!!
So I have to ask, why is the Note 3 not getting enough developer support/interest? There is no OMNI, PA, AOKP, PAC, Slim ROMS. Even CM seems to be taking forever to officially release a nightly.
Why is nobody even interested in porting the above custom Roms? WHAT THE H3LL IS WRONG WITH THE NOTE 3?
At this point I am considering selling or swapping it for even a LG G2 or Nexus 5..... And i don't care about the stupid warranty if that's why most people are afraid. If i could port and maintain OMNI or PA or AOKP I would.....

mzobe7 said:
Hello
I got my Note 3 on 01/12/2013, I was quite excited to own such a powerful device with specs that no competitor can match. So naturally I assumed that the device will attract a lot a of developer support, I did notice that the forums were running short of AOSP based ROMs and there were only a few TW based ROMS. However I thought things would pick up in the new year and more developers would come to the party......but that hasn't happened!!
So I have to ask, why is the Note 3 not getting enough developer support/interest? There is no OMNI, PA, AOKP, PAC, Slim ROMS. Even CM seems to be taking forever to officially release a nightly.
Why is nobody even interested in porting the above custom Roms? WHAT THE H3LL IS WRONG WITH THE NOTE 3?
At this point I am considering selling or swapping it for even a LG G2 or Nexus 5..... And i don't care about the stupid warranty if that's why most people are afraid. If i could port and maintain OMNI or PA or AOKP I would.....
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There is a daily build being done by temasek and boy is it stable.. battery life is excellent also.
Pong has built a few daily builds also... he is doing well.
ProBAM AOSB is smooooth as.
PACMAN was pulled. BAM is still there... There's enough for now... Remember CM is still at a very very early stage for the Note, sources only been out a couple of weeks man give it time.

Maybe not a lot of devs would want to spend that much money on a phone. Maybe when it becomes more affordable then more devs will join in on the fun.

It's pointless to flash AOSP or CM or AOKP on this phone, since you lose so much functionality. The pen becomes dead weight. You lose multi window on apps. If you have flip cover, it just becomes a standard cover. etc. etc.
If you are going to use this phone, you are going to use Samsung's OS. That's it.

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Maybe not a lot of devs would want to spend that much money on a phone. Maybe when it becomes more affordable then more devs will join in on the fun.
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I doubt it's a money issue. i believe samsung really ruined it's relationship with the community, looking at the bricking bug that plagued the Note 1, i know @Entropy512 and @XpLoDWilD got pissed and left Samsung devices (no more team Hacksung) but i thought others would come to the party....

aydc said:
It's pointless to flash AOSP or CM or AOKP on this phone, since you lose so much functionality. The pen becomes dead weight. You lose multi window on apps. If you have flip cover, it just becomes a standard cover. etc. etc.
If you are going to use this phone, you are going to use Samsung's OS. That's it.
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Let's see if you'll still be thinking like that when Samsung stops rolling out updates to the N3..... I have a Galaxy Note 10.1 I know what Samsung is capable of. The device is still on 4.1.2

mzobe7 said:
Let's see if you'll still be thinking like that when Samsung stops rolling out updates to the N3..... I have a Galaxy Note 10.1 I know what Samsung is capable of. The device is still on 4.1.2
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LOL! I have a Galaxy Note 10.1 too. But with the battery life I'm getting with that thing (I flew from Istanbul to USA for 12 hours, I used it non-stop and when I landed, I still had 25% left), I'll never flash another ROM on it.

Not much people will flash CM/AOKP/AOSP/PA and etc in Note series as it is downgrade the phone. Thus not many such developer on it.

Andrewtst said:
Not much people will flash CM/AOKP/AOSP/PA and etc in Note series as it is downgrade the phone. Thus not many such developer on it.
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Exactly. I only flash "enhanced" stock roms on my Note (2 or 3) and am really happy with it

This is one phone that I probably won't want to "mess with" for a while. First time I'm content with a stock phone. Using Nova Prime over TWH
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murphy504 said:
This is one phone that I probably won't want to "mess with" for a while. First time I'm content with a stock phone. Using Nova Prime over TWH
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Same as to me...only note3 still stock phone that i using because of knox thing. My other phone like s3 s4 note2 and Motorola RAZR all rooted
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*points finger at samsung*
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Note 2 had awesome development and perhaps its not equal good on note 3. Mainy bcz some devs are still enjoying note 2 as other people and they think its not a worthy upgrade.
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sohebq said:
Note 2 had awesome development and perhaps its not equal good on note 3. Mainy bcz some devs are still enjoying note 2 as other people and they think its not a worthy upgrade.
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Agreed sir, still love note 2 and its development roms and mod.

sohebq said:
Note 2 had awesome development and perhaps its not equal good on note 3. Mainy bcz some devs are still enjoying note 2 as other people and they think its not a worthy upgrade.
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That may very well be so but for F's sake the Note 4 will be out in middle of this year :/
Personally I just the old MJ3 battery life back... been grumpy and mad ever since...
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I miss only one thing here: Perseus kernel!

with xposed, doubt i need any development on note 3

This phones only 3 months old and believe it or not, a vast majority of people that get this phone actually do prefer touchwiz modified Roms.
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I'm a MIUI lover, been with that ROM on all my note's and S devices. I have strong hope it will come eventually, for now CM with MiLauncher. Gotta love CM too because it really makes this device really snappy.

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*points finger at samsung*
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+1
Most likely be my last Samsung - not liking the knox c**p.
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