Hello, I will try to explain how I got myself into my current situation which is kinda helpless and it ends up with the SGS II Logo on screen.
I rooted my phone - no problem
Flashed an Insecure Kernel - no problem
Flashed - CWM - no problem
Then I tryed to put the Ressurecion ICS mode.
Started CWM mode, wiped all data but for some reason soon afterwards my phone
turned off. When I started it again it always ended up at samsung logo screen :/
I can put it in download mode. I tryed to flash roms, with or without pit files.
When I do so I get this screen like terminal with many signs like "failed to load booth catche" etc, unable to mount,etc. Then I get the option to either reboot,to wipe data catche or factory reset. No matter what I choose I always end up at logo screen. Please,I beg of you help me !!
SinisterHatred said:
Hello, I will try to explain how I got myself into my current situation which is kinda helpless and it ends up with the SGS II Logo on screen.
I rooted my phone - no problem
Flashed an Insecure Kernel - no problem
Flashed - CWM - no problem
Then I tryed to put the Ressurecion ICS mode.
Started CWM mode, wiped all data but for some reason soon afterwards my phone
turned off. When I started it again it always ended up at samsung logo screen :/
I can put it in download mode. I tryed to flash roms, with or without pit files.
When I do so I get this screen like terminal with many signs like "failed to load booth catche" etc, unable to mount,etc. Then I get the option to either reboot,to wipe data catche or factory reset. No matter what I choose I always end up at logo screen. Please,I beg of you help me !!
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Have you tried returning it to stock with a one-click return to stock ? you will lose your root permissions but they are easy to get back lol
I havent tryed it. Isnt it just for nexus too ? And I cant enter my phone so I could just USB debugging :X
SinisterHatred said:
I havent tryed it. Isnt it just for nexus too ? And I cant enter my phone so I could just USB debugging :X
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yea alot of samsung phones have one click return to stock
you just need to get it into download mode (probably by holding volume down and power at the same time then connecting ur usb i can provide links just PM me
I flashed the Cyanogen mod 10.1 nightlies for 2013-01-05. The boot animation was running for an abornomally long time so I pulled the battery and booted up and now the boot animation will not stop running. I tried searching for help but with no avail I have not found it too fix this problem. Also I made a CWM backup.
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I flashed the Cyanogen mod 10.1 nightlies for 2013-01-05. The boot animation was running for an abornomally long time so I pulled the battery and booted up and now the boot animation will not stop running. I tried searching for help but with no avail I have not found it too fix this problem. Also I made a CWM backup.
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Also after trying too restore it, I just get the error Couldn't find directory no files found.
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Also after trying too restore it, I just get the error Couldn't find directory no files found.
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Nevermind fixed it.
How did you fix it? rh
How did u fix it? I am facing a similar problem.
and when i tried to upgrade from cm10 to cm10.1 i was stuck at "Android is upgrading - Starting apps" screen. and a fresh installation of cm10.1 was stuck at the boot animation.
I am using Siyah Kernel 1.8.7 and having cyanogenmod as my secondary rom.
Plz help somebody
utsav7r said:
How did u fix it? I am facing a similar problem.
and when i tried to upgrade from cm10 to cm10.1 i was stuck at "Android is upgrading - Starting apps" screen. and a fresh installation of cm10.1 was stuck at the boot animation.
I am using Siyah Kernel 1.8.7 and having cyanogenmod as my secondary rom.
Plz help somebody
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SiyahKernel s3-v1.8.8
Posted on January 13, 2013
Changelog
rebased on i9300 update7 sources (sudden-death issue is supposedly fixed in this source drop)
reverted temporary fix for exynos-mem exploit as i9300-update7 sources already fix that
cm10.1 is now supported in dual-boot configurations
1.8.7->1.8.8: fixed cm10.1 not booting when installed as 2ndROM (a tiny typo in ramfs)
BUT,it doesn't work anyway (just trying now at it's stuck on the boot screen)
Just try it and report back! :good:
You do realize that the siyah kernel is for the international S3 which has different hardware then our s3? If you are using a kernel for a different phone then of course it wont boot....
R: [Q] Flashed cyanogen mod 10.1, stuck at boot animation
By "International", you mean the exynox version unlocked right?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
R: [Q] Flashed cyanogen mod 10.1, stuck at boot animation
Whatever, it's been released v1.8.9 and it's said to fix the CM10.1 issues
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Flash problems
I've had installs stick at the boot animation or shortly thereafter several times. Usually it's because of a dumb mistake. The only thing that's consistently worked for me is flashing back to stock VZ firmware via Odin and doing the whole process over from root through installation. It sucks but it always works.
Howdy.
I've just flashed CyanogenMod 10.1 - 20130315 to my droid 4 with Safestrap, and I haven't been able to boot into it; the cyanogenmod splash screen with the rotating wheel graphic shows up, but it spins for upwards of 40 minutes without doing anything.
I followed the guide on the cyanogenmod wiki for the droid 4 device. The forum won't let me post a link to it.
Before I installed I wiped / factory reset, and after install I wiped cache/dalvik; still no dice. I've tried doing the same process several times (even wiking the system before trying to reflash), but the same result has always occurred: ever unhelpful eternal wheel...
I'm a bit at my wits end; I haven't been able to find any other information about this that wasn't solved by wiping cache / dalvik, so I turn to y'all for help.
Same here
I installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 with CWM the link:[Recovery/Bootstrap][5-sep-2012] CWM Touch recovery v6.0.1.1 - xda-developers and i went ahead and installed the mod: cm-10.1-20130211 all went fine untill i noticed that my camera is not working (not a big deal) but then i noticed that my phone only saw 488MB out of my 32GB this was un acceptable after i found how to connect my phone to my pc so it showed up as a storage device do that i copied the same mob but a different version (cm-10.1-20130129_v2) so i went ahead and booted into Android system recovery <3e> and i did a factory reset and then i said oh f*** i need CWMR to install the thing so i just waited for it to do its thing and then reboted the device thinking after i boot up i will reinstall CWMR but i was never able to boot because im stuck on the boot animation. Been waiting for +20min or so and nothing please help me what can i do this is my only phone please help
help with CM10.1 ROM issue
Hi folks,
this is my first post on XDA. I have a Sprint htc EVO 4G LTE phone which was running on JB.
Thought of root and flash with CM. So, first I unlocked the bootloader using htc dev and installed TWRP custom recovery and then rooted.
Then I flashed the stable CM 10 then flashed gapps which is compatible for CM 10 version. so far so good. oh, btw I did nandroid backup before flash and also wiped to factory reset, cache and Delvic cache.
After the flash i clicked on reboot system and I see the Cyanogenmod boot, but its stuck at that stage and I waited for more than an hour. No luck.
Thank god I did back up before this, otherwise not sure what I'm gonna do.
But, could someone tell me why it gets stuck at this point. I know some of you guys had this problem. I searched everywhere but didn't get help. I thought of posting this in android development forum, but as a newbie I can't do that.
Please help me out.
P.S: when I'm on boot screen (power button + vol down button) I see unlocked at the top but I also have TAMPERED in red color on top of that. Was this normal? or do you think that is causing the problem? and what should I do now?
(First of all I am not an expert)
It happens sometimes about 1/10 of every flashes I did with cm10
It might because some files didn't get copied or got corrupted.
Just try this method
Format data
Format system
Format cache
Wipe dalvick cache and factory reset
Now flash the ROM
Hit thanks if I helped
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(First of all I am not an expert)
First wipe every thing(system,data,cache,dalvick,android secure....)
Now install ROM,
Wait don't install gapps
Now find an extended cm10.1 kernel or lupus kernel(or such kernels) for your device and flash it via pc
I prefer flashing kernel after installing the rom
Hit thanks if I helped
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NEED HELP Cm9
OK so i have xperia x10 mini i have root long time so i decided since there is no update from 2.1 that am gona manualy put new software.I watched youtube video on how to do cyanogenmod 9 so i did everything(flash,bootloader....) and after all that the screen started and i got stuck on that blue screen i tried to turn phone off that didnt work i can only restart the phone and when i plug in it doesnt say anything i cant open sd card or anything its just stuck like that pls help.SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH
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OK so i have xperia x10 mini i have root long time so i decided since there is no update from 2.1 that am gona manualy put new software.I watched youtube video on how to do cyanogenmod 9 so i did everything(flash,bootloader....) and after all that the screen started and i got stuck on that blue screen i tried to turn phone off that didnt work i can only restart the phone and when i plug in it doesnt say anything i cant open sd card or anything its just stuck like that pls help.SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH
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Ask in the Xperia X10 mini forums.
Three-finger salute
Ran into this situation today when I tried to restore a backup and I couldn't get past the CM10 logo on bootup. Holding down all three buttons, power, volume up and down, got me back to the Clockworkmod boot screen.
ETA: Sorry, posted in wrong forum. My situation pertained to a Samsung Galaxy 5 Media Player.
neso97 said:
OK so i have xperia x10 mini i have root long time so i decided since there is no update from 2.1 that am gona manualy put new software.I watched youtube video on how to do cyanogenmod 9 so i did everything(flash,bootloader....) and after all that the screen started and i got stuck on that blue screen i tried to turn phone off that didnt work i can only restart the phone and when i plug in it doesnt say anything i cant open sd card or anything its just stuck like that pls help.SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH
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Hi...i just happened to flash my x10 mini to cm9-robyn yesterday...same thing happpened to me...boot the animation until run of battery....i accidently booted it to recovery and just leave it...fortunately after sometime it booted by itself and run as normal. The cm9 run ok except the wifi is not working. Hope that will help. I am not an expert.
last nigh i was browsing then my tablet was frozen fro too long .. the physical buttons (power and volume) is not working as well as the whole screen .. i managed to turn it off by pressing the power button for about a minute.. i did turned it ON but i was stuck in SAMSUNG LOGO ..
so i went to cwm recovery, wipe the cache and restart nothing happens .. still stuck in bootloader .. i wipe data/factory reset and it didnt finish wiping and the tablet restart itself .. so i thought that my tab was brick and now i tried to revive it using ODIN and JellyBean Firmware from SamMobile ME1 Philippines .. after flashing using Odin, the phone restart itself and after the SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB PLUS logo appears it turned to Black screen and nothing is happening ..
i cant access the stuck recovery as well ..
any help please .. i really need to revive this tablet badly
i thing the bootloader is the main problem because it wasnt able to go through .. .
I NEED HELP PLEASE!
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last nigh i was browsing then my tablet was frozen fro too long .. the physical buttons (power and volume) is not working as well as the whole screen .. i managed to turn it off by pressing the power button for about a minute.. i did turned it ON but i was stuck in SAMSUNG LOGO ..
so i went to cwm recovery, wipe the cache and restart nothing happens .. still stuck in bootloader .. i wipe data/factory reset and it didnt finish wiping and the tablet restart itself .. so i thought that my tab was brick and now i tried to revive it using ODIN and JellyBean Firmware from SamMobile ME1 Philippines .. after flashing using Odin, the phone restart itself and after the SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB PLUS logo appears it turned to Black screen and nothing is happening ..
i cant access the stuck recovery as well ..
any help please .. i really need to revive this tablet badly
i thing the bootloader is the main problem because it wasnt able to go through .. .
I NEED HELP PLEASE!
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Did you flash it again? sometimes you need to flash it again for it to work, if it doesnt work what i did at that time last year when I experienced it was flashing stock HC using odin then to ics using heimdall then to jb using odin,why dont you try it maybe it helps on yours..
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i upgraded my note N8000 via odin mobile pro with success and everything was smooth and the root was not intact
I tried to flash a theme via mobile odin but was not success, but note was still ok
then 2 days later I tried to enter the recovery mode , i found the note stuck on samsung boot screen and dose not reboot, I can enter download mode but can not enter recovery mode to reflash even the stock rom
what to do?
should i reflash the CWM as 1st time? then reflash the root if i found it is gone?
or i have to reflash the stock rom first via odin desk top since i can not reboot the note? problem is the stock rom is on the note and do not have it on PC
the note now is on Samsung boot screen, how to turn it off since note can not remove the battery?
EDIT 1::good:
Flashed a stock recovery via odin desk top, and rebooted
Note is back alive , no wipes, every thing still there, root still here
Rebooted once again with success
rebooted into recovery (stock since I lost my CWM) with success
EDIT 2
Flashed CWM and my note is back for my modifications
:fingers-crossed:
Stock Recovery File?
thermax04 said:
i upgraded my note N8000 via odin mobile pro with success and everything was smooth and the root was not intact
I tried to flash a theme via mobile odin but was not success, but note was still ok
then 2 days later I tried to enter the recovery mode , i found the note stuck on samsung boot screen and dose not reboot, I can enter download mode but can not enter recovery mode to reflash even the stock rom
what to do?
should i reflash the CWM as 1st time? then reflash the root if i found it is gone?
or i have to reflash the stock rom first via odin desk top since i can not reboot the note? problem is the stock rom is on the note and do not have it on PC
the note now is on Samsung boot screen, how to turn it off since note can not remove the battery?
EDIT 1::good:
Flashed a stock recovery via odin desk top, and rebooted
Note is back alive , no wipes, every thing still there, root still here
Rebooted once again with success
rebooted into recovery (stock since I lost my CWM) with success
EDIT 2
Flashed CWM and my note is back for my modifications
:fingers-crossed:
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Do you have a link to where you found the stock recovery rom/image? And how did you flash it? I am having a similar problem right now.
kyleschepis said:
Do you have a link to where you found the stock recovery rom/image? And how did you flash it? I am having a similar problem right now.
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do u mean the stock rom? I got it from samobile.com
or u mean u want the stock recovery?
try this
http://mirror21.downloadandroidrom....e10.1/recovery/N8000_StockRecovery.tar?token=
Will reflashing the tablet to stock, delete all of my files off of it? Is there a way to retrieve the files through download mode somehow?
kyleschepis said:
Will reflashing the tablet to stock, delete all of my files off of it? Is there a way to retrieve the files through download mode somehow?
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in my post i wrote that reflashing the stock rom did not wipe (delete) any thing, u will find all your stuff undeleted
thermax04 said:
in my post i wrote that reflashing the stock rom did not wipe (delete) any thing, u will find all your stuff undeleted
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It says you flashed a stock recovery. Is it the same case for a stock ROM?
kyleschepis said:
It says you flashed a stock recovery. Is it the same case for a stock ROM?
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sorry, my mistake, flashing the stock rom will not delete your stuff, just be sure to flash the same rom or higher, not lower one
So, I tried flashing the stock recovery and that did not work. And then I tried flashing the stock rom (multiple times with different roms) and that did not work either. My tablet is still stuck on the screen that says "Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1". Do you have any other suggestions?
can u write some details about what was before and reason for problem, to think together about a solution
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can u write some details about what was before and reason for problem, to think together about a solution
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My Note 10.1 N8013 was rooted, had TWRP, and Cyanogenmod 10.2 Nightly on it. I hadn't touched it in two days and went to turn it on. It wouldn't turn on, so I assumed it was dead. I charge it overnight and try to turn it on in the morning, but it just goes into a boot loop. The tablet says "Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" and stays that way until it dies. If I boot into recovery mode, the Teamwin (TWRP) title screen pops up and then immediately disappears. The tablet then shows the battery loading icon if it is plugged in. The icon shows up, then disappears and the shows up again and repeats this a few times. I could only boot into download mode successfully.
I have tried flashing different stock roms and recoveries through odin, including the one that you have linked on here. None of them have worked. I have also tried repartitioning the tablet, which passed on Odin, but did not solve the problem.
Other forums say that I should do a factory reset or wipe the data, but I do not know how to do this without being able to boot into recovery or the OS itself.
Thanks
P.S. I also brought it to Best Buy to see if the Samsung guy could reflash the stock rom, but his rom did not work either. They are all passing on Odin, so it isn't an error in that case.
I read that a lot of people got problems with Cyano roms. I did not like it and never used it, sorry can not help you
thermax04 said:
I read that a lot of people got problems with Cyano roms. I did not like it and never used it, sorry can not help you
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Could it be because of the Cyanogen rom? I didn't update recently... I probably updated it a week before it died. Would you happen to know how to do a factory reset / wipe the data from the tablet, if I can't get into recovery mode or the OS?
I don't think that there is any other way, sorry about that.
try to put your problem in the Cyano rom thread, may others had the same and solved it
Ok thank you
Let me know if you get it fixed
Hi kyleschepis,
Let me know if you find a solution. I have a very similar issue . . . the difference is, I am not using a custom ROM. I have the stock ROM that came with the GT-N8013.
My issue started about 5 days ago. My Galaxy Note had been having occasional issues with the external SD card. A warning would appear saying that the SD card had been removed, and a couple of seconds later it would re-mount and every thing was fine.
But 5 days ago, I picked up my note and turned the screen on (it was already started) and noticed the warning message while the screen was still locked. Then, as the second message was still being displayed letting me know that the SD card had been mounted, I swipe the screen to unlock. But instead of unlocking, my Note completely rebooted. It got as far as the logo screen (displaying "Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1"), but would go no further.
I am able to get into the Odin download mode but cannot get into recovery mode no matter what I do/
I have tried re-flashing the stock ROM ("KIES_HOME_N8013UEUCMI3_N8013XARCMI3_813049_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5") several times, as well as trying to install customer recovery modes like CWM and TWRP, as well as the stock recovery. But the power + volume up combination does not get me into recovery mode. Even if, as many have suggested, I continue holding the button combination until the logo screen displays a second or a third time.
I have been without my Note for 5 days now, and I use it for everything. So, any help I can get would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob
robb-x said:
Hi kyleschepis,
Let me know if you find a solution. I have a very similar issue . . . the difference is, I am not using a custom ROM. I have the stock ROM that came with the GT-N8013.
My issue started about 5 days ago. My Galaxy Note had been having occasional issues with the external SD card. A warning would appear saying that the SD card had been removed, and a couple of seconds later it would re-mount and every thing was fine.
But 5 days ago, I picked up my note and turned the screen on (it was already started) and noticed the warning message while the screen was still locked. Then, as the second message was still being displayed letting me know that the SD card had been mounted, I swipe the screen to unlock. But instead of unlocking, my Note completely rebooted. It got as far as the logo screen (displaying "Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1"), but would go no further.
I am able to get into the Odin download mode but cannot get into recovery mode no matter what I do/
I have tried re-flashing the stock ROM ("KIES_HOME_N8013UEUCMI3_N8013XARCMI3_813049_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5") several times, as well as trying to install customer recovery modes like CWM and TWRP, as well as the stock recovery. But the power + volume up combination does not get me into recovery mode. Even if, as many have suggested, I continue holding the button combination until the logo screen displays a second or a third time.
I have been without my Note for 5 days now, and I use it for everything. So, any help I can get would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob
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Did you try removing the sd card and reboot again ?
DId you fix your tablet
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Ok thank you
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Hi Kysleschepis,
Were you able to fix the problem with your phone.
I have exact same problem....my Gt-n8000 tablet is stuck on "Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" logo. And i cant access the recovery mode.
Let me know if you found a solution to this problem.
Thanks.
same here but didn't work
i have same problem with my Note 10.1 N8000 stuck in bootloop problem but i didn't do anything like upgrading or install new app ... its stuck by him self and i tried the following and all not working :
1, Hard Reset with software menu (not working)"only if the device is working".
2, Hard Reset with Dial secret code key(not working) "only if the device is working".
3, Hard Reset with Hardware Key Button(Factory recovery screen not working).
4, installing recovery philz_touch_6.07.9-n8000.tar with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
5, installing recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.4.1.0-p4notewifi_3 with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
6, installing recovery CF-Auto-Root-p4noterf-p4noterfxx-gtn8000.tar with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
7, installing recovery twrp-2.6.3.1-n8000.tar with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
8, installing recovery Samsung_N8000_Hard_Reset_File_JB in "CSC" field with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
9, installing "N8000XXUDNE5_N8000OLBDNE3_N8000DXUDND1_HOME.tar" full new Android OS with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
Finlay there is No Samsung Service Center in my country, i need to send it by mail to nearest country have Samsung Service Center and will cost me a lot .. what i have to do
Weeshi said:
i have same problem with my Note 10.1 N8000 stuck in bootloop problem but i didn't do anything like upgrading or install new app ... its stuck by him self and i tried the following and all not working :
1, Hard Reset with software menu (not working)"only if the device is working".
2, Hard Reset with Dial secret code key(not working) "only if the device is working".
3, Hard Reset with Hardware Key Button(Factory recovery screen not working).
4, installing recovery philz_touch_6.07.9-n8000.tar with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
5, installing recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.4.1.0-p4notewifi_3 with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
6, installing recovery CF-Auto-Root-p4noterf-p4noterfxx-gtn8000.tar with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
7, installing recovery twrp-2.6.3.1-n8000.tar with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
8, installing recovery Samsung_N8000_Hard_Reset_File_JB in "CSC" field with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
9, installing "N8000XXUDNE5_N8000OLBDNE3_N8000DXUDND1_HOME.tar" full new Android OS with Odin (passed installed successfully but still not working).
Finlay there is No Samsung Service Center in my country, i need to send it by mail to nearest country have Samsung Service Center and will cost me a lot .. what i have to do
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I have the same problem. I was just playing a game when it suddenly turned off and went to the boot screen. Also tried installing N8000XXUDNE5_N8000OLBDNE3_N8000DXUDND1_HOME.tar.md5 (success but also didn't work). Still stuck at the "Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" screen.
Also can't access recovery, or do a wipe before installing firmware (I think USB debugging isn't turned on).
Did you find any solutions yet?
Thanks.
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I have the same problem. I was just playing a game when it suddenly turned off and went to the boot screen. Also tried installing N8000XXUDNE5_N8000OLBDNE3_N8000DXUDND1_HOME.tar.md5 (success but also didn't work). Still stuck at the "Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" screen.
Also can't access recovery, or do a wipe before installing firmware (I think USB debugging isn't turned on).
Did you find any solutions yet?
Thanks.
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Sorry till now no solutions ... If you have warranty on the device go to the samsung maintenance center i think its wrong factory made
Hello, Today while I was surfing the net suddenly my Note froze, restarted itself and from that moment is stuck in the Note 10.1 logo and refuses to boot to the OS. I tried flashing the stock rom via oding. The odin says pass but nothing happens.... Still stuck on the logo. I tried wiping the device via CWR but when ti says erasing sdcard(the internal memory) it crashes and restarts itself!! Please give a solution as I think it is bricked for good.(I had rooted the device but it had no custom rom or any other kernel.all stocks)
Read .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/help/help-10-1-stuck-samsung-logo-t2818420
JJEgan said:
Read .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/help/help-10-1-stuck-samsung-logo-t2818420
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I have already done everything suggested and have not fixed my problem!
PLEASE anyone that could help???
Idk if that thread said this but I solved a similar problem by going into recovery mode and doing a factory reset (wipe data etc)