Hi, as you know HTC (and all others) disallow call recording in their phones since the times of Windows Mobile 2003. This problem is now on the Android devices too. There are many opened issues on Google code for this problem, that gained a lot of stars, especially this one code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117 (sorry, I'm new and not allowed to post links)
There are workarounds like recording trough loudspeaker, but as you know this is far from useful.
However, there is no official answer from Google about this "issue". However, last week the Koreans released a ROM for Samsung Galaxy S, that has built-in native call recorder.
This is from the Samsung's Hub:
Samsung has released a new update for South Korean Galaxy S (SHW-M110S) owners. The update DH09 is not a Froyo update but it does bring worthy additions to the handset. Few visible features are the inclusion of Swype keyboard, ability to record conversations and an app to detects the slope of the magnetic field sensor.
Other than that, the DH09 features RAM management, includes a 3G data widget, downloadable fonts and improves on many other fronts like Allshare, Google Maps software, call quality etc.
The update is available via Kies.
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There is a screenshot as attachment (it's in Chinese):
Is there any way to break apart this ROM (DH09) and bring this or similar functionality to Froyo for Desire or Nexus or anything...?
Could you explain me where exactly is the problem for successful two-way call recording? Some say it's in the hardware, other think it's in the ROMs of the manufactures or in Android in general. However in Android emulators it works perfectly!
waooooo....someone please extract it
Anyone? Any answer? At least people who hacked WM ROM's to explain me where exactly is the problem for two-way call recording.
Call Recording is something very useful and I think is a "must have" function in today's world. However big companies and carriers are afraid letting people do that for legal reasons. That's why I think they will never allow us to do that out of the box, so we (the users) have to make it reality with custom hacked ROMs, like we did previously for Windows Mobile devices!
Anybody say something, please
The voice streams were handled by the baseband processor, it's that the baseband firmware aren't setup to offer the streams to the application processor that's limiting the ability to truly record a call. The Android system long has the API implemented, but it can do nothing in this case.
I remember there was an explanation in the Google code issue report mentioned above.
Here it's: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117#c226
Since the baseband firmware is close sourced and available in binary only, I doubt if the brilliant hackers here can do anything about this.
So, get a Galaxy S (the true one, not even those US variants) if you really want this feature.
Thanks for the reply. So, the bad guy is the baseband processor. iPhone guys hack the baseband processor of the iPhone to unlock it for different carriers. So, I guess it's doable to hack the firmware for two-way recording too.
I read here in XDA Devs that someone found a "cure" for HD2 very easily, just by editing the registry - xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/two-way-in-call-recording-on-hd2-fixed/
HD2 uses the Qualcomm’s Snapdragon QSD8250 processor with built-in baseband processor. The same is used by HTC Desire, HTC Dragon, HTC Mozart, Nexus One, Dell Streak, SE Xperia X10 and many more.
So, why with HD2 is so easily, but with Nexus is not? What is the difference when they use the same CPU with the same baseband processor built-in? Is the baseband firmware different for Android OS and Windows Mobile? If so, how they run Android on HD2 and the cellular is working?
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I found TotalRecall on the Android Market and it records both sides of my conversations.
jamesmannes said:
I found TotalRecall on the Android Market and it records both sides of my conversations.
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Many call recorders can record both-way, but only with the use of speakerphone. I suspect it's the same for TotalRecall, judging by the ratings of the 14-day demo (http://www.appbrain.com/app/total-recall-call-recorder/com.killermobile.totalrecall.trial)...?
mishoboss said:
Thanks for the reply. So, the bad guy is the baseband processor. iPhone guys hack the baseband processor of the iPhone to unlock it for different carriers. So, I guess it's doable to hack the firmware for two-way recording too.
I read here in XDA Devs that someone found a "cure" for HD2 very easily, just by editing the registry - xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/two-way-in-call-recording-on-hd2-fixed/
HD2 uses the Qualcomm’s Snapdragon QSD8250 processor with built-in baseband processor. The same is used by HTC Desire, HTC Dragon, HTC Mozart, Nexus One, Dell Streak, SE Xperia X10 and many more.
So, why with HD2 is so easily, but with Nexus is not? What is the difference when they use the same CPU with the same baseband processor built-in? Is the baseband firmware different for Android OS and Windows Mobile? If so, how they run Android on HD2 and the cellular is working?
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I hope I have an answer but, getting the Galaxy S is still the most fool-proof way thus far.
jamesmannes said:
I found TotalRecall on the Android Market and it records both sides of my conversations.
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Which phone you use? Which Android version? I hope you record the conversation without speaker turned on, right?
999phonebug said:
I hope I have an answer but, getting the Galaxy S is still the most fool-proof way thus far.
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OK, does somebody tested the Galaxy S with TotalRecall or other call recording software? Is it working out of the box or do I have to preflash the ROM with the korean's one? And if I do, could I continue to use my phone normally and in English language?
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OK, does somebody tested the Galaxy S with TotalRecall or other call recording software? Is it working out of the box or do I have to preflash the ROM with the korean's one? And if I do, could I continue to use my phone normally and in English language?
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Ooops... I wasn't aware only the South Korean firmware has native support for call recording... I wonder if it's available in the latest 2.2/Froyo global release...?
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Ooops... I wasn't aware only the South Korean firmware has native support for call recording... I wonder if it's available in the latest 2.2/Froyo global release...?
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Any one know how to get the "real" Galaxy S? I have been searching the internet to no avail?
Can some Genius please tell me how to flash the new Korean Froyo http://translate.google.at/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatpclub.com%2Fboard%2Findex.html%3Fid%3Duser9%26no%3D5203 onto a European Galaxy S ? Thanks
airplus said:
Any one know how to get the "real" Galaxy S? I have been searching the internet to no avail?
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Tried ebay?
dillovic said:
Can some Genius please tell me how to flash the new Korean Froyo http://translate.google.at/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatpclub.com%2Fboard%2Findex.html%3Fid%3Duser9%26no%3D5203 onto a European Galaxy S ? Thanks
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Anyone????
there's an utility called AirVoice which claims to support voice recording without speakerphone on rooted g2 (htc magic) and g3 (htc hero) with certain ROM versions.
http://www.airrunner.cn/wordpress/
999phonebug said:
Ooops... I wasn't aware only the South Korean firmware has native support for call recording... I wonder if it's available in the latest 2.2/Froyo global release...?
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No, it's not available in Froyo. This is only for Koreans. However the important thing here is that CALL RECORDING IS POSSIBLE on Galaxy S. As you stated in your first post, to record a call Android needs access to the baseband processor. Galaxy S uses own CPU called S5PC110 (ARM Cortex A8) with built-in baseband processor, which is different from the baseband that is used in the new HTC devices, SE Xperia and Droid. As we all know these devices doesn't work with the call recording apps on the Market. Samsung Galaxy S has really good chances to work properly with these apps!
SO, SOMEBODY PLEASE TEST!
999phonebug said:
there's an utility called AirVoice which claims to support voice recording without speakerphone on rooted g2 (htc magic) and g3 (htc hero) with certain ROM versions.
http://www.airrunner.cn/wordpress/
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Nice! However for the EPIC STUPIDITY of the most users who gave low app rating, the author unpublished it from Market.
His app clearly shows that two-way call recording IS POSSIBLE, even on certain hardware and rooted Android. The author notes that his app only works on Hero and Magic. They use Qualcomm® MSM7000 and MSM7200, probably with the same baseband processor and he found a way to access it. I will try to contact him for more info and I hope some source code...
Hi,
I tried some apps like Ultimate Voice Recorder, Total Recall, Call Recorder, they all pick up sounds from the second you press dial so that you hear on the recording the phone ringing at the other side, and they stop a few seconds after the conversation starts. I cold hear on the recordings bouth sides, but no recording is over 10 seconds, no matter what settings I choosed. I didn't use the speaker mode.
Maybe some files need to be run as administrator...don't know... I'm new to android and don't know much about linux.
The other apps that claim to be able to record calls are designed for Android 1.6 so it may be possible but not with 2.1 or 2.2
As far as I understood from what I've read, the korean version of I9000 has also a different hardware not just firmware, so it might be more than just a software adjustment needed.
ccris said:
Hi,
I tried some apps like Ultimate Voice Recorder, Total Recall, Call Recorder, they all pick up sounds from the second you press dial so that you hear on the recording the phone ringing at the other side, and they stop a few seconds after the conversation starts. I cold hear on the recordings bouth sides, but no recording is over 10 seconds, no matter what settings I choosed. I didn't use the speaker mode.
Maybe some files need to be run as administrator...don't know... I'm new to android and don't know much about linux.
The other apps that claim to be able to record calls are designed for Android 1.6 so it may be possible but not with 2.1 or 2.2
As far as I understood from what I've read, the korean version of I9000 has also a different hardware not just firmware, so it might be more than just a software adjustment needed.
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I presume you use Galaxy S, right? That what you said is really interesting! The fact that recordings contain both sides is very encouraging! The 10 seconds bug I guess is due to some rights or something. I don't own Galaxy S to do further investigation of this problem, but I hope somebody who own it and is deep in Android to do it.
I don't think the Koreans version has different hardware. At least it uses the same CPU, and that means the same baseband processor.
Any news...?
Hey guys.
Is there any way to gain Over the Air FM functionality back on the xperia xz?
Xperias cheaper than the xz have it but sony decided to remove an essential feature from a pricier device... And they wonder why they aren't making profits.
They have removed a whole bunch of features from the XZ unfortunately. Not much you can do about a hardware change like that.
Can always listen to the online version or via an app.
Not sure it's removed, just suppressed. I believe all the Qualcomm chips have this functionality built in. I realize this doesn't solve the problem, just adding to the conversation.
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fm radio
Fm Radio is on the 820
http://www.androidauthority.com/t-mobile-galaxy-s7-s7-edge-gained-fm-radio-latest-update-690893/
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They have removed a whole bunch of features from the XZ unfortunately. Not much you can do about a hardware change like that.
Can always listen to the online version or via an app.
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With the development being what it is, there isn't really much that can be done about it. Online radio isn't really pocket friendly. Data plans ain't cheap here.
Hi Everyone.
I am curious as to why Dual Audio seen on Samsung Galaxy flagships is not really found on other brands or Samsung's mid-rangers. I have a few portable BT speakers and it would be really nice to combine their sound for a more room filling experience.
Dual Audio was first introduced on the S8 along with Bluetooth 5. It is touted as a BT5 feature, but as Gary from Android Authority explains, the advancements of BT5 is only applicable to BTLE and supported devices. Samsung's Dual Audio works with devices that stream over BT Classic.
I am thinking that a BT5 radio in a source device has the hardware capability to stream audio to two devices over BT Classic. This makes me think that Dual Audio is a software implementation which can be done through the driver or an app. Speaking of which, Tempow developed a BT profile, TAP, which can do Dual Audio. Motorola and TCL has adopted TAP into their phones.
There are suggestions that Samsung has 2 BT radios in their devices to enable Dual audio, but I don't think it's likely, since Tempow seems keen on bringing their TAP to the masses with nothing to suggest a 2 radio requirement.
So now I am really curious about why it isn't implemented on more phones? Or better yet, on custom ROMs?
Hello i m trying to search the same question i have a old j4 plus that have dual audio but the half off the screen is busted
SooBCooL said:
Hello i m trying to search the same question i have a old j4 plus that have dual audio but the half off the screen is busted
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Same, i have tried various threads and sites but nowhere there's answer for this....
No developer have worked on it since 2017, there are requests over this feature but no help over it till now.
I'm waiting for it