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->[Q] Tablet with digital audio out [tablet->optical(toslink or coax)cable->DAC]
Hello,
I've tried the search and couldn't find anything relating to my issue.
I need a portable device/music player that has the ability to stream digital audio to my DAC (digital to analog converter).
I would like to listen to my music in my car using this tablet/music player. I have a DAC/Signal prosessor which has both optical coax and toslink inputs to recieve the signal so either one is fine.
Here is the signal path explained once again:
tablet -> optical toslink or coax cable -> DAC -> any given audio system (In my case also car audio system)
Please help me choose a tablet or help me find a way to do this. I know that some tablets have hdmi out, but it gets a little too tricky to seperate the digital audio signal from hdmi port to spdif, am I right?
Any help is greatly appreciated,
-Tersi
Guys, I don't mean to be impatient but I thought this was the place to get some answers to my problem.
Is there a way to send digital audio via usb port? I think there are ways to convert digital audio from usb to spdif..
Or could there maybe be a docking station, that has a digital audio output?
Please share your knowlage of the tablet world!
I am also looking for this too! I want to use a tablet as a car pc and run the audio out of it digitally to prevent all noise and ground loop headaches.
Did anyone ever get anywhere with this. I'm looking to do the exact same thing and the HDMI converter kit I bought is useless so I'm looking for another go around.
ainol novo basic
I just received an ainol novo basic w/ ICS (mcbub.com from LA). It uses a MIPS processor so not all apps are 100% compatible, however I am able to use it as intended (music player). If you tether you can use pandora, slacker, etc.
I take the HDMI out into a monoprice 5557 (sorry no url)
HDMI converter which outputs toslink, analog, RCA.
I use this in a home application (110v), however they are low power and you can use it in a car.
Be careful you need the Ainol Basic because it has the HDMI output. The paladin (which I also have) does not.
I'm sure there are others but for $130 I doubt you will do better, especially because it's running ICS also.
I use RCA optical into my Fiio DAC (sounds better). Toslink works too.
Monoprice switch uses ~3W on 5V, the Ainol is powered by miniusb.
I'm sure you have an onboard DAC (Fiio is excellent tho), but if you dont I recommend it. It has issues w/ 5.1 audio tho, so only pass it stereo.
I haven't tested 5.1 sound on it, although the specs say it will pass it. Your DAC will probably be the issue.
HTH.
Is this the only tablet that can do that? I was also considering this. Doing digital to the back of the car and then running it to a powerful car audio system.
I am also looking for this tablet or solution to this problem. Anybody knows?
usb dac optical out
I know rhis thread is old but for anyone looking for optical out via usb samsung note2 3 8 pro line s line nexus 7 both. Nexus 10. All of these tested w a behringer uca 202 dac w optical out. And I love it. Almost any newer andoid tablet that supports usb host will work.
b3ltazar said:
I know rhis thread is old but for anyone looking for optical out via usb samsung note2 3 8 pro line s line nexus 7 both. Nexus 10. All of these tested w a behringer uca 202 dac w optical out. And I love it. Almost any newer andoid tablet that supports usb host will work.
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Yep !!ok!!But the problem is (for car install) the charging (in the same time):crying::crying:
Even the older samsung tablets with the multi-pin connectors have the ability to conect and charge .
This make me mad...
tito1231 said:
Yep !!ok!!But the problem is (for car install) the charging (in the same time):crying::crying:
Even the older samsung tablets with the multi-pin connectors have the ability to conect and charge .
This make me mad...
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What kind of tablet do you have there are otg and charging kernels for most of the popular tablets and a few tricks for any samsung that supports otg...and if ur tablet doesn't support it u can wire a relay to a moded cable that will charge when the car is off and otg when car is on.. if u need details let me know.
b3ltazar said:
What kind of tablet do you have there are otg and charging kernels for most of the popular tablets and a few tricks for any samsung that supports otg...and if ur tablet doesn't support it u can wire a relay to a moded cable that will charge when the car is off and otg when car is on.. if u need details let me know.
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Ī¤hank's for answer , i have see your threads for otg and charging .
Your suggestions is very valuable but ....
I have a tab pro 8.4" wi-fi EU ,but i dont have luck with resistanse (88kohm i thing)
Relay is very nice solution-i have use one already for delay the 12v current to my HU.
any battery drain for the next morning??
For the next step ... Behringer U-CONTROL UCA222 ?? ru sure??coz i go for it!!.
Works with no external power???
I can get audio from rca output to??
I would like the easiest in car audio possible while charging. I have a couple of questions related to the audio output of the razr hd:
1. Would a y cable work with this phone? Im thinking something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Charger...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item53f0a73387
1a. If so is the audio out a line-out or would it be the same as the headphone audio?
2. Is the bluetooth audio out a line-out signal or is it compressed like the headphone audio?
3. Any ever try something like this? http://gromaudio.com/store/usb_adapters/vw_seat_skoda_usb_ipod_adapter_direct_digital_interface.html I only have mtp mode on via usb now so I dont know if this would work as a direct connection.
JBmfG said:
I would like the easiest in car audio possible while charging. I have a couple of questions related to the audio output of the razr hd:
1. Would a y cable work with this phone? Im thinking something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Charger...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item53f0a73387
1a. If so is the audio out a line-out or would it be the same as the headphone audio?
2. Is the bluetooth audio out a line-out signal or is it compressed like the headphone audio?
3. Any ever try something like this? http://gromaudio.com/store/usb_adapters/vw_seat_skoda_usb_ipod_adapter_direct_digital_interface.html I only have mtp mode on via usb now so I dont know if this would work as a direct connection.
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I'd probably recommend the motorola cable such as this: http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...icle-Docks/m-Custom-Audio-Cable,en_US,pd.html
Keep in mind that any motorola car docks will have the separation build into the dock, so it'll have a microusb port for charging and a headphone jack for connection to a car stereo. That way you can keep the dock connected and not worry about plugging in cables. As for signal type through the usb, I really have no idea. Maybe someone else can answer that.
Edit: According to this post: http://forums.androidcentral.com/bionic-accessories/118004-bionic-car-mount-y-cable.html#post1318683 there's no volume control on the usb line out, which leads me to believe it's a line level output and not amplified like the headphone jack.
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JBmfG said:
I would like the easiest in car audio possible while charging. I have a couple of questions related to the audio output of the razr hd:
1. Would a y cable work with this phone? Im thinking something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Charger...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item53f0a73387
1a. If so is the audio out a line-out or would it be the same as the headphone audio?
2. Is the bluetooth audio out a line-out signal or is it compressed like the headphone audio?
3. Any ever try something like this? http://gromaudio.com/store/usb_adapters/vw_seat_skoda_usb_ipod_adapter_direct_digital_interface.html I only have mtp mode on via usb now so I dont know if this would work as a direct connection.
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I had great success with a FM transmitter powered by a cigarette charge. It also had a an extra mini usb cable to charge the phone. The FM transmitter is connected to the 3.5 mm jack. I streamed music with Spotify and used Google Maps for navigation. I did not try to connect the phone for calls with bluetooth!
EdwardN said:
I'd probably recommend the motorola cable such as this: http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...icle-Docks/m-Custom-Audio-Cable,en_US,pd.html
Keep in mind that any motorola car docks will have the separation build into the dock, so it'll have a microusb port for charging and a headphone jack for connection to a car stereo. That way you can keep the dock connected and not worry about plugging in cables. As for signal type through the usb, I really have no idea. Maybe someone else can answer that.
Edit: According to this post: http://forums.androidcentral.com/bionic-accessories/118004-bionic-car-mount-y-cable.html#post1318683 there's no volume control on the usb line out, which leads me to believe it's a line level output and not amplified like the headphone jack.
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Thanks for that. I guess in the end it doesnt really matter as if its not a line-out there isnt anything i can do about it. The only thing i wonder now is if there are any direct usb connections that that will allow me to control the music from my in dash cd player. Thatd be the tits.
I have my S3 on stock software. Bought this pioneer deck that says its android compatible. Could use the headphone aux in but wanted to use the USB audio. Is there something I'm missing. I put the phone in "media mode" and the deck says na USB audio when I connect it.. so its recognized but when I play something on the phone it just plays through the phone speakers. I'm new to this integration. Searched the forum with no avail. Any help greatly appreciated.
www.ryanhortonmusic.com
unique77 said:
I have my S3 on stock software. Bought this pioneer deck that says its android compatible. Could use the headphone aux in but wanted to use the USB audio. Is there something I'm missing. I put the phone in "media mode" and the deck says na USB audio when I connect it.. so its recognized but when I play something on the phone it just plays through the phone speakers. I'm new to this integration. Searched the forum with no avail. Any help greatly appreciated.
www.ryanhortonmusic.com
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Most decks are "android compatible" by either reading the phone as a usb device or by bluetooth. Since the S3 doesn't present itself as a usb storage device, it won't work via usb. The only ways to connect it is either through aux cable or bluetooth connection. Btw have the same deck as you lol
Ha thanks for the reply. Aux it is since no Bluetooth on it. I bet you like those colors don't you.
www.ryanhortonmusic.com
unique77 said:
Ha thanks for the reply. Aux it is since no Bluetooth on it. I bet you like those colors don't you.
www.ryanhortonmusic.com
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Haha, yeah the colors look sick. If you want to have a bluetooth connection, you can do a round about way. If you want a kind of iphone/ipod touch experience (changing songs/volume from the phone) with the S3, get a bluetooth adapter such as the auris. You connect the bluetooth adapter to the iphone cable and then just sync up the bluetooth to the phone. Bluetooth 4.0 aptx quality supposedly equivalent to usb.
My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes
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If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
eregev said:
If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
brotherj0nes said:
One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes
I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016
I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.
I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
Mgrev said:
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.
Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0
Did the amazon converter end up working for you?
My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.
What I want to achieve is to use my device as a speaker to connect it to an HDMI adapter via a connector cable jack
I have my device rooting I would like to know some form or app
Dekih said:
What I want to achieve is to use my device as a speaker to connect it to an HDMI adapter via a connector cable jack
I have my device rooting I would like to know some form or app
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I don't know But it may help
[technologywindow DOT com/use-android-phone-speaker-pc/ ]
Dekih said:
What I want to achieve is to use my device as a speaker to connect it to an HDMI adapter via a connector cable jack
I have my device rooting I would like to know some form or app
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I don't think that is possible, the media is running on what device? so let me get this clear, you want the to use the phone as a speaker by connecting the phone to an HDMI cable? I don't think it's possible. You can use phone as a speaker connected to a PC, just load the media to a laptop connect the laptop to the TV using hdmi, set the audio such a way that audio is played on laptop speaker and then use this https://www.ilovefreesoftware.com/04/android-2/how-to-use-android-phone-as-pc-speakers.html
to make it play on the phone, I can't guarantee it will work or not but you can try. I did the above stuff yesterday to play my media on TV but connected the laptop's sound to a BT speaker, here instead of a BT speaker you are using a phone that's the difference I see