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1.4 went in without a hitch.
Downloaded from XDA to Xoom.
Used root explorer to move it from sdcard to sdcard2.
Used Clockworks to go into recovery
Mounted USB (not sure this was needed as I had it already had it on the external sdcard.)
Flashed from zip
Everything looks good. Third Quadrant score 3285 1.504mhz
One issue I wanted to point out. The new kernel flash somehow completely wiped my external SD card!!! All the folders and files gone. I have not gone and reread to see if I was supposed to do something to prevent this but I do not think so. I wish I could post this in the thread in Dec but I just recently joined and read alot before I post so as to not ask questionsthat have already been answered.
Does anyone have any info on the SD card being wiped from the tiamat 1.4 flash?
So wanted to let people know that having a backup of your SD cards data might be a good idea.
This Forum is awesome with some great very gifted members!!! BigRushDog and those helping him are fantastic to do this work to move this platform forward! Thank you very much. Donation will be sent.
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its in a new folder created on xoom called "external"...nothings gone, just moved to a more realistic location... use a file explorer, go to sd card, and its there.
ok now I feel stupid!?!
Thank you!!
Not sure how I missed that.
Thanks again
ok yes its all there of course lol
So is 'external' now the root of the external sd card and sdcard2 is now only an internal folder on the Zoom in the sdcard folder?
OK this 1.4.0 kernel is nice. I am getting my best Quadrant scores yet. Set at 1.504 and govern: performance. I hit an all time high of 3389. With some tweaks 3500 could be doable. Now if they would publish honeycomb source as promised.
bigeasy911 said:
ok yes its all there of course lol
So is 'external' now the root of the external sd card and sdcard2 is now only an internal folder on the Zoom in the sdcard folder?
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Tested by me on the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit only. (I'm told it works on the Galaxy W). If your device's /system/etc/vold.fstab file matches the attached original Galaxy Exhibit fstab file, it may work for you as well. Note: This app is not compatible with CyanogenMod. Root is required.
A common complaint about some Samsung Gingerbread phones is the fact that they mount the relatively small internal sd memory as /mnt/sdcard and this memory is treated as the phone's primary removable storage by some apps, ignoring the "real" removable sd card that Samsung refers to as "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd".
This simple gui allows you to swap the two so your larger "external sd" is mounted as "/mnt/sdcard/" and the smaller sd internal memory is mounted as "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd".
This is done by changing a file called vold.fstab in your phone's /etc folder. The original device vold.fstab file is backed up to /etc/vold.fstab.backup when this app first runs. Your data on /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/sdcard/external_sd is not touched in any way whatsoever. Root is required. Easy install: copy the apk file to your SD card and open with a file manager.
Please nandroid backup before testing!
If you get "Unknown Error, Contact Developer" you are more than likely not properly rooted! This app requires Superuser and Busybox to properly function!
Please note that if you've already moved existing apps to SD or existing apps have placed support files on SD, swapping mount points is not a good idea. Uninstall these apps, then reinstall after swapping.
jocala said:
Tested on the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit only. If your device's /system/etc/vold.fstab file matches the attached fstab file, it may work for you as well.
Please nandroid backup before testing!
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So has anyone had success using this on the Exhibit II/4G or is it really just for the older Exhibit or am I just mis-reading the title?
I'd like to make the switch since the "internal" sd situation is rather silly and I just picked up a new SDHC card for my phone.
so the app is for swapping
and wt abt the txt ??? is it the original or the custom for swapping ??????
Works on any rom?
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willynatedgreat said:
So has anyone had success using this on the Exhibit II/4G or is it really just for the older Exhibit or am I just mis-reading the title?
I'd like to make the switch since the "internal" sd situation is rather silly and I just picked up a new SDHC card for my phone.
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The Galaxy Exhibit 4G was formerly known as the Exhibit II 4G
mosta_9741 said:
so the app is for swapping
and wt abt the txt ??? is it the original or the custom for swapping ??????
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The fstab.txt is the original from the Galaxy Exhibit. It's attached so you can compare it to the /system/etc/vold.fstab on your phone. If the two match, this app may work for you.
Karmalot said:
Works on any rom?
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So far.
Ok, a question as I learn more and more about the Galaxy Exhibit.
I am testing one, have some time to return if the coverage is not what I need, so I have installed my apps from my other phone, and just moved the SD card over, since it had some zips and apks that I wanted.
Since some of the directories exist already and are used by apps, while others have been recreated on the internal sd of the phone. My thought was to install the swapsd apk, immediately physically move all files from the internal sd to the actual sd card by activating the USB connection. Then disable USB, the swap is active, the media scanner will run, and the phone should see everything on /sdcard and the /ext_sdcard will be clean, except for what I left in the /usb_storage directory.
I tried mounting in recovery under mounts, mount usb storage, but it can only see one virtual drive and not both, whereas activating from the phone, both show.
Is that correct, or am I missing something? And obviously, in recovery, the partitions stay they same since the script is not running.
Pkt_Lnt said:
Ok, a question as I learn more and more about the Galaxy Exhibit.
I am testing one, have some time to return if the coverage is not what I need, so I have installed my apps from my other phone, and just moved the SD card over, since it had some zips and apks that I wanted.
Since some of the directories exist already and are used by apps, while others have been recreated on the internal sd of the phone. My thought was to install the swapsd apk, immediately physically move all files from the internal sd to the actual sd card by activating the USB connection. Then disable USB, the swap is active, the media scanner will run, and the phone should see everything on /sdcard and the /ext_sdcard will be clean, except for what I left in the /usb_storage directory.
I tried mounting in recovery under mounts, mount usb storage, but it can only see one virtual drive and not both, whereas activating from the phone, both show.
Is that correct, or am I missing something? And obviously, in recovery, the partitions stay they same since the script is not running.
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Samsung's stock recovery only sees the internal storage, not removable. ClockworkMod sees both. You can get cwm here.
jocala said:
Samsung's stock recovery only sees the internal storage, not removable. ClockworkMod sees both. You can get cwm here.
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That is from within CWM from that link, maybe my old XP laptop is playing games. Is that implying that I should move files in recovery?
I also find a swapsd01.zip and a swapsd.apk, same, just different application method?
sd/swap beta
hi jocala ,was wondering if you could fully explain how to do the swpp sd in full ?
thanks
sean
Pkt_Lnt said:
That is from within CWM from that link, maybe my old XP laptop is playing games. Is that implying that I should move files in recovery?
I also find a swapsd01.zip and a swapsd.apk, same, just different application method?
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The swapsd.apk in this thread is the app. Disregard any links to zips, they are outdated.
roto rooter said:
hi jocala ,was wondering if you could fully explain how to do the swpp sd in full ?
thanks
sean
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I've attached a screenshot to the OP, hopefully that will help. It's pretty simple:
Root is required. Run the app, you'll see four buttons, Help, Default, Swap, Reboot.
To swap sd and external_sd press Swap.
To return to default, press Default.
Once you press either of the buttons above, press Reboot.
For instructions, press Help.
Pkt_Lnt said:
That is from within CWM from that link, maybe my old XP laptop is playing games. Is that implying that I should move files in recovery?
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No. I misunderstood your post. To mount your /sdcard (internal) in cwm mount /sdcard. To mount your removable sd do mount /emmc.
jocala said:
No. I misunderstood your post. To mount your /sdcard (internal) in cwm mount /sdcard. To mount your removable sd do mount /emmc.
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Well, I got it done. I had to do it a little different, more lengthy, more secure. Backed up both partitions to my computer. Activated swapsd, rebooted to recovery, but could not mount both simultaneously. So I mounted the new /sdcard that is removable and moved what was backed up on the computer from the previous internal card to it. Rebooted and then cleaned up everything for duplicates. Thanks for the help again.
Pkt_Lnt said:
Well, I got it done. I had to do it a little different, more lengthy, more secure. Backed up both partitions to my computer. Activated swapsd, rebooted to recovery, but could not mount both simultaneously. So I mounted the new /sdcard that is removable and moved what was backed up on the computer from the previous internal card to it. Rebooted and then cleaned up everything for duplicates. Thanks for the help again.
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Glad it worked out for you. Good luck with your Galaxy Exhibit
jocala said:
Tested by me on the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit only. (I'm told it works on the Galaxy W). If your device's /system/etc/vold.fstab file matches the attached original Galaxy Exhibit fstab file, it may work for you as well.
A common complaint about some Samsung Gingerbread phones is the fact that they mount the relatively small internal sd memory as /mnt/sdcard and this memory is treated as the phone's primary removable storage by some apps, ignoring the "real" removable sd card that Samsung refers to as "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd".
This simple gui allows you to swap the two so your larger "external sd" is mounted as "/mnt/sdcard/" and the smaller sd internal memory is mounted as "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd".
This is done by changing a file called vold.fstab in your phone's /etc folder. The original device vold.fstab file is backed up to /etc/vold.fstab.backup when this app first runs. Your data on /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/sdcard/external_sd is not touched in any way whatsoever. Root is required.
Please nandroid backup before testing!
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How to change the file?
Many thanks
NOLAchick said:
How to change the file?
Many thanks
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Install the apk in the OP, and choose the swap button, then the reboot button. Sorry to be so technical..........
Pkt_Lnt said:
Install the apk in the OP, and choose the swap button, then the reboot button. Sorry to be so technical..........
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That's the big question....for us noobies
Tanks though...
NOLAchick said:
That's the big question....for us noobies
Tanks though...
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Copy the file to your SD card. Open it in your file manager.
I still havent seen an answer for this issue, but I have over 6GB of Miscellaneous Files in Setting->Storage. nothing in there shows that much info, so I know its from loading different ROMs. I have no idea how to get rid of these files. I've been looking all around CWM for something to clear, but I'm not too confident about messing with that.
Does anyone have an idea of how to clear up this stuff?
Do you have a few nandroid backups? Those will register there. If you're using TWRP, there's a TWRP folder and you can remove them or archive them off. Clockwork is the same, I just don't remember offhand where it stores them.
If this isn't it, you can install busybox, and then either adb shell, or use a terminal emulator on the phone and run `du /mnt/sdcard -hl -d 1` you can then drill down to the directories which are the biggest offenders. Changing the 1 to another number increases the depth that it reports.
Coop9 said:
Do you have a few nandroid backups? Those will register there. If you're using TWRP, there's a TWRP folder and you can remove them or archive them off. Clockwork is the same, I just don't remember offhand where it stores them.
If this isn't it, you can install busybox, and then either adb shell, or use a terminal emulator on the phone and run `du /mnt/sdcard -hl -d 1` you can then drill down to the directories which are the biggest offenders. Changing the 1 to another number increases the depth that it reports.
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Okay. I finally managed to get this started. I went through terminal emulator and found that the /sdcard is only 7.6GB while the number in the main settings says over 10. /android has 2GB from some games, but I can't find anything showing where the 6GB of miscellaneous file is at. Even cwm is only 1.7GB from the one backup I have.
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I've been fiddling with this for the last day or so and found that under miscellaneous file, System Memory now shows up as taking 3.67 GB of data. I've been looking everywhere to see where that much info could be, but I'm kinda stuck now.
I now know where that extra space has gone, but I have no idea how to free it up.
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Galaxy S4 Miscellaneous Files: what and where are they?
So I'm getting a warning that the internal SD is out of memory, I've moved all movable apps to external SD, photos, music too.
Rooted and have TWIP as recovery *BUT* before I install a custom ROM, I want a backup *BUT* there's no room as the backup wants to use internal SD (not external)
Somehow Miscellaneous Files show over 8GB but in My Files it only shows about 200MB addressable (erasable). I deleted all Dropbox files and saved 200MB.
Where the heck are the other 7.8GB of files? How can I see them please?
Thanks in advance.
greenja said:
So I'm getting a warning that the internal SD is out of memory, I've moved all movable apps to external SD, photos, music too.
Rooted and have TWIP as recovery *BUT* before I install a custom ROM, I want a backup *BUT* there's no room as the backup wants to use internal SD (not external)
Somehow Miscellaneous Files show over 8GB but in My Files it only shows about 200MB addressable (erasable). I deleted all Dropbox files and saved 200MB.
Where the heck are the other 7.8GB of files? How can I see them please?
Thanks in advance.
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I am in the same boat with no solution
I fixed it
jinan said:
I am in the same boat with no solution
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backup *everything* and reformat *internal* SD card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44217580#post44217580
hope it helps
greenja said:
backup *everything* and reformat *internal* SD card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44217580#post44217580
hope it helps
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I did this but didn't solve the problem for me. However, I did find a solution which worked for me. I used CWM, went in to the >Backup and Restore>Delete> and chose to delete all backups in the internal SD. Solved my problem
jinan said:
I did this but didn't solve the problem for me. However, I did find a solution which worked for me. I used CWM, went in to the >Backup and Restore>Delete> and chose to delete all backups in the internal SD. Solved my problem
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WOW!!!!
i am so happy i found your tip. finally i managed to clean the mysterious 9Gb in my storage.
thank you very much!!!
Clean Data folder
DaemonAshra said:
I still havent seen an answer for this issue, but I have over 6GB of Miscellaneous Files in Setting->Storage. nothing in there shows that much info, so I know its from loading different ROMs. I have no idea how to get rid of these files. I've been looking all around CWM for something to clear, but I'm not too confident about messing with that.
Does anyone have an idea of how to clear up this stuff?
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Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me. Don't forget to thank me
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
A lot of that is cached data for apps. If you use apps like gmusic, it caches music files to the device and that cache folder will grow. Root access will allow you to clear all your data es, including hidden files and that size will drop.
Adjetey Boye said:
Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me.
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
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There's nothing in that folder.
So not that simple.
If you're rooted, get Cache Cleaner NG and let it wipe all that unnecessary data. I run it weekly.
With roms like gummy, you can click on Misc and see which app has all the data... It's likely something like Vine (it had a huuuuuuuge cache) or another app like gmusic.
beepea206 said:
If you're rooted, get Cache Cleaner NG and let it wipe all that unnecessary data. I run it weekly.
With roms like gummy, you can click on Misc and see which app has all the data... It's likely something like Vine (it had a huuuuuuuge cache) or another app like gmusic.
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Sir (or madam).
I need you to fully understand exactly how amazing of a person you are. I don't know where the data was or what ate it all, but this app got it all back and you are awesome for recommending it.
Adjetey Boye said:
Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me.
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
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It worked for me, I have deleted the folder /data/media entirely。
Tks very much.
I recently ran into a similar issue with my rooted nook tablet. It was killing my sd cards. When I put the sd cards in my laptop, I erased all partitions and that fixed them.
I used to be a moderator in a forum that helped people with car trouble. I have accumulated some good karma. please help me
Eastsun said:
It worked for me, I have deleted the folder /data/media entirely。
Tks very much.
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glad to be of help
Adjetey Boye said:
Yes its kinda simple, at least it worked for me. Don't forget to thank me
Download ES Explorer
and go into the /data/media folder.
the troublesome files are there. Careful what you delete tho. For myself I had old remnants from another ROM and the entire rom zip file.
Don't forget the thanx button.
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Six and a half years later on XIAOMI redmi note 8T I habe finally found 6GB of data in orangenfox folder that I dont need ( for miui ota ). Thank you.
I am a semi noob. I have a lot of flashing pretty much down pat. I have a question about the external sdcard. I know that pictures and such will not save to it unless you convert it over. My question is instead of downloading mods and such to invert the two couldn't one just rename the two sdcards so that external sdcard becomes internal and vice versa? Just a thought and if not maybe someone could clarify what I need to do to make it happen.
bairste said:
I am a semi noob. I have a lot of flashing pretty much down pat. I have a question about the external sdcard. I know that pictures and such will not save to it unless you convert it over. My question is instead of downloading mods and such to invert the two couldn't one just rename the two sdcards so that external sdcard becomes internal and vice versa? Just a thought and if not maybe someone could clarify what I need to do to make it happen.
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you can change the default save location so pictures will save to ext. the only reason the card would need converted to fat32 is so cwm can see it.
droidstyle said:
you can change the default save location so pictures will save to ext. the only reason the card would need converted to fat32 is so cwm can see it.
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how do you change default location? If i go to gallery and hit menu then click settings I get a black screen. I am on paranoidandroid rom.
bairste said:
how do you change default location? If i go to gallery and hit menu then click settings I get a black screen. I am on paranoidandroid rom.
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you should be able to open the camera app/settings/ scroll down to storage location. it should have the option phone or memory card.
Its not giving me that option
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bairste said:
Its not giving me that option
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Oh ok Im on Beans Touchwiz right now and the camera app has those options...couldnt remember if aosp camera did or not. One other thing you can try is reformatting the sd fat32 and moving the camera/dcim folder to external from internal sd.
If Paranoid Android is anything like CM10 you're stuck using the internal for now unless you find a camera app that will change it to external. Renaming the cards like that, if it would even work to fool the camera, would mess up everything else that uses the internal card.
I have been having similar issues. If I were you, I would flash to a different rom until they get the camera and sd card issues fixed. I love that rom also, but I can't even get wifi to work on it in hybrid mode. Give it a little while and I'm sure the devs will come up with a fix
Thanks guys for the speedy responses
So I was on CleanROM 5.6 and wanted to give 10.1 a shot. I made a backup and downloaded it to my computer via the ROMManager tool. I ran into 2 issues with 10.1 and decided I'd try again later, so I wanted to flash back to my CleanROM backup that I'd just made. Whether via ROMManager or going straight into recovery the process says it can't open the path to the file. I say the path, as this has occurred with the zip image on internal memory and when I've tried on the SD card.
Soooo, now I'm pretty stuck. Thoughts? I felt like it must have related to the new 4.2 file structure but again, this was an issue whether my zip was on internal memory or the card.
Thanks,
BH
The exact process is:
installing [path]
finding update package.
opending update package.
e: cant open [path] (bad)
installation aborted
CWM says it's leaving a log file but I am not seeing it.
Sounds like your filesystem is like this: "/sdcard/0" and if it is, then do the following:
use Root Explorer or a similar program and navigate to /sdcard/0/ press Menu should give you an option for Multi-Select, select all the folders/files in the /0/ directory, hit menu or down on the bottom choose Move (again depends on the browser) back up one level to the main /sdcard/ directory, and hit Paste. It will tell you there is files with the same information (because the ROM rebuilt the file structure) choose Merge, and let it do its thing. Depending on how many files you have, it may take a little while, just be patient.
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taken verbatim from here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/37316-protip-42-and-recoveries/
I'm going to give it a shot now. I wouldn't have thought this would be an issue restoring since the zip was accessible and I even tried flashing from internal mem, but perhaps it's not as much as issue of reading the file as knowing where to extract the data? We'll see.
All in all, if I could just get 10.1 to stop giving me market errors (920) I'd probably just stick with that at the moment. Alas, have tried all of the interweb's solutions for that too.
Will update, thanks.
So I don't have a /0/ dir on the card, but I do have a /1/. Tried moving the contents of /1/ but it failed. May try another file explorer app (this was via CMs). Interestingly, I was able to flash a ClearnROM install zip, which is 4.1.1 based. Why would that work but the constructed backups wouldn't?
update: I can flash anything else regardless of location, and I am using the latest recovery. def seems like something specific to zip backups made/downloaded via the newest means in ROM Manager
monorailmedic said:
So I don't have a /0/ dir on the card, but I do have a /1/. Tried moving the contents of /1/ but it failed. May try another file explorer app (this was via CMs). Interestingly, I was able to flash a ClearnROM install zip, which is 4.1.1 based. Why would that work but the constructed backups wouldn't?
update: I can flash anything else regardless of location, and I am using the latest recovery. def seems like something specific to zip backups made/downloaded via the newest means in ROM Manager
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Well if the rom zip is on /sdcard or /extsdcard then it will flash fine. If your backups are on /sdcard/1/ then that's literally the same as /0/. Recovery is looking for your Nandroid backup on /sdcard but it's not there, it's actually been unnecessarily moved to /sdcard/1/ if I'm understanding you correctly. You will not be able to restore a nandroid until you get those files moved back to the proper file path.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Well if the rom zip is on /sdcard or /extsdcard then it will flash fine. If your backups are on /sdcard/1/ then that's literally the same as /0/. Recovery is looking for your Nandroid backup on /sdcard but it's not there, it's actually been unnecessarily moved to /sdcard/1/ if I'm understanding you correctly. You will not be able to restore a nandroid until you get those files moved back to the proper file path.
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I have a similar problem with my file system after flashing from 4.2 back to 4.1 that has me confused.
I flashed to a TW rom after being on CM10.1, and I was using the most recent TWRP when I originally flashed CM10.1. I had the usual problem that everybody seems to have being that the "0" folder was located on my card. I copied the fold over to my normal sdcard folder (unfortunately I used root browser instead of root explorer, which made this much more painful as it does not have the "merge" ability. Root Explorer - accept no substitutes)
After doing the merge though, I have 2 problems.
#1 - My external SDcard is now listed under "storage."
#2 - There is an Sdcard there called "sdcard0 as well as a "extSdCard" in this storage folder with all the same information as the original "0" folder that was on the internal sdcard. Also a bunch of folders named UsbDriveA, UsbDriveB, etc.
Why did this happen? And how should I set up my folders so that it behaves properly? In other words, what does a normal file system look like?
SlimSnoopOS said:
...Recovery is looking for your Nandroid backup on /sdcard but it's not there, it's actually been unnecessarily moved to /sdcard/1/ if I'm understanding you correctly. You will not be able to restore a nandroid until you get those files moved back to the proper file path...
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So this is where I am confused, does the zip not contain all of the appropriate backup data within itself, and it is looking elsewhere (in the wrong path) for backup data? This seems odd based on the whole idea as well as the size of the file. If this is not the case, when why is whatever scripting is included in the backup looking for an absolute and not a relative path to the data? It should always be relative to the location of the zip file itself.
I really want to try and understand this.
PeterGunz said:
I have a similar problem with my file system after flashing from 4.2 back to 4.1 that has me confused.
I flashed to a TW rom after being on CM10.1, and I was using the most recent TWRP when I originally flashed CM10.1. I had the usual problem that everybody seems to have being that the "0" folder was located on my card. I copied the fold over to my normal sdcard folder (unfortunately I used root browser instead of root explorer, which made this much more painful as it does not have the "merge" ability. Root Explorer - accept no substitutes)
After doing the merge though, I have 2 problems.
#1 - My external SDcard is now listed under "storage."
#2 - There is an Sdcard there called "sdcard0 as well as a "extSdCard" in this storage folder with all the same information as the original "0" folder that was on the internal sdcard. Also a bunch of folders named UsbDriveA, UsbDriveB, etc.
Why did this happen? And how should I set up my folders so that it behaves properly? In other words, what does a normal file system look like?
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See my attached photo for what your file system should look like. I'm using ES File Explorer and that's my file system.
What do you mean your external SDcard is listed under Settings/Storage? Both of mine are listed, internal storage is first then my external sd card is second. Care to screenshot what you mean?
monorailmedic said:
So this is where I am confused, does the zip not contain all of the appropriate backup data within itself, and it is looking elsewhere (in the wrong path) for backup data? This seems odd based on the whole idea as well as the size of the file. If this is not the case, when why is whatever scripting is included in the backup looking for an absolute and not a relative path to the data? It should always be relative to the location of the zip file itself.
I really want to try and understand this.
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If you're using CWM, it saves your backups for internal sd card in: /sdcard/CWM/backup and blobs. For your external sd card, it's saved /extsdcard/CWM/backups and blobs. If you flashed any AOSP 4.2 rom, it moves EVERYTHING from your /sdcard/ path to /sdcard/0. See the difference? Example, your music should be in this path /sdcard/Music but instead it's been moved to /sdcard/0/Music on AOSP 4.2. I get what you're saying how it should be looking for where the zip is BUT the multi-user support completely disrupts our entire thinking of how our file system should be because one user could be "rooted" whereas the other user would be completely stock depending on who signed in. It's too early to expect this to just work since Google introduced this in 4.2. It's a take it or leave it thing.
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For a standard backup that makes total sense. My confusion is how this happens with a zip, when all of the backup data is confined to that one archive file (or at least should be).
monorailmedic said:
For a standard backup that makes total sense. My confusion is how this happens with a zip, when all of the backup data is confined to that one archive file (or at least should be).
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When you made a backup with Rom Manager, it saved to /sdcard, since flashing 4.2, everything on /sdcard moved to /sdcard/1/... Rom Manager and any app honestly would have issues when the file location has changed suddenly and without its express permission. It's not the fault of Rom Manager that it can't find the file to restore your backup. Having an updated TWRP or CWM is supposed to help prevent the /sdcard contents from being merged to /sdcard/0, its not supposed to continue looking for the "new" file destination.
SlimSnoopOS said:
See my attached photo for what your file system should look like. I'm using ES File Explorer and that's my file system.
What do you mean your external SDcard is listed under Settings/Storage? Both of mine are listed, internal storage is first then my external sd card is second. Care to screenshot what you mean?
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Sorry, I can see what I said was confusing.
On the root of my device, among the usual folders, there is one named "sdcard" and another named "storage."
In the "sdcard" folder, all of the folders were empty; however, there is a folder named "0" which contained all of my sdcard contents from my internal sdcard.
In the "storage" folder from the root of my file system, it resembles what you have in your screenshot, except there are no asec and obb folders. In the sdcard folder is a replica of the 0 folder. It contains everything that was in my original internal sdcard. The extsdcard contains everything normally found on my external sd card.
When download something with the stock browser, it defaults to the sdcard folder on the root of file system.
I've attached some screenshots. Let me know what you think and thank you for the help.
PeterGunz said:
Sorry, I can see what I said was confusing.
On the root of my device, among the usual folders, there is one named "sdcard" and another named "storage."
In the "sdcard" folder, all of the folders were empty; however, there is a folder named "0" which contained all of my sdcard contents from my internal sdcard.
In the "storage" folder from the root of my file system, it resembles what you have in your screenshot, except there are no asec and obb folders. In the sdcard folder is a replica of the 0 folder. It contains everything that was in my original internal sdcard. The extsdcard contains everything normally found on my external sd card.
When download something with the stock browser, it defaults to the sdcard folder on the root of file system.
I've attached some screenshots. Let me know what you think and thank you for the help.
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Oh! This is actually funny, we've been looking at the same thing from two different viewpoints. I see what you mean, /Storage and /sdcard are perfectly normal when you see them on the absolute root file system: "/". I always go to /mnt, that's where I have my file explorer default to open when I launch the app. Sdcard0 = sdcard, and various apps will use the names interchangeably. I have exactly the same paths /sdcard and /Storage, and I do see /Storage/sdcard0 and /Storage/extsdcard along with the same empty USB Drive folders. This is just how the "/" directory is split up. There isn't a duplication of files taking up more space than necessary, it's just showing you another path to get to those files. To reiterate, on "/" you can get to your sdcard contents in at least three paths: /mnt, /sdcard, and also /Storage/sdcard0
All that matters is the /sdcard/0 aka /Storage/sdcard0/0 is GONE. Which, in your original post you said no longer exists correct?
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I am still not understanding how there is a problem with executing a zip file that contains all the backup data. It doesn't matter where I move this zip file, as it seems it should be all inclusive of the backup data. Why does it matter the path of this file? What is the script looking for during restoration? Shouldn't it be looking within the archive?
I'm sorry, I feel like a tool, but again, I'm obviously missing some very basic part of what is happening when the file is accessed. As it is all inclusive, why is recovery looking for content anywhere outside of the archive?
monorailmedic said:
I am still not understanding how there is a problem with executing a zip file that contains all the backup data. It doesn't matter where I move this zip file, as it seems it should be all inclusive of the backup data. Why does it matter the path of this file? What is the script looking for during restoration? Shouldn't it be looking within the archive?
I'm sorry, I feel like a tool, but again, I'm obviously missing some very basic part of what is happening when the file is accessed. As it is all inclusive, why is recovery looking for content anywhere outside of the archive?
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Backups cannot be flashed like other ZIP files. They need to be restored using the restore function of your recovery. The problem is that the CWM restore function is looking for its backups where it puts them (not surprisingly). Android 4.2 moved them to another location and you need to move them back.
SlimSnoopOS said:
Oh! This is actually funny, we've been looking at the same thing from two different viewpoints. I see what you mean, /Storage and /sdcard are perfectly normal when you see them on the absolute root file system: "/". I always go to /mnt, that's where I have my file explorer default to open when I launch the app. Sdcard0 = sdcard, and various apps will use the names interchangeably. I have exactly the same paths /sdcard and /Storage, and I do see /Storage/sdcard0 and /Storage/extsdcard along with the same empty USB Drive folders. This is just how the "/" directory is split up. There isn't a duplication of files taking up more space than necessary, it's just showing you another path to get to those files. To reiterate, on "/" you can get to your sdcard contents in at least three paths: /mnt, /sdcard, and also /Storage/sdcard0
All that matters is the /sdcard/0 aka /Storage/sdcard0/0 is GONE. Which, in your original post you said no longer exists correct?
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Correct!
You helped me solve my problem. I was so confused for awhile there.
What should I rename my sdcard after copying everything over from "0"?
I just flashed back to 4.2.1 (AOLP) and I cannot find the contents of my internal sdcard anywhere. In fact, when I check storage on the system settings it only shows that I have a little over 12gbs total space on the internal sdcard. The 8gb I have on TW on the internal sdcard are not recognized by the rom. Any thoughts?