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I use my Touch Pro 2 to share internet with my laptop and I dont pay any extra for it with my current t-mobile plan. I avg about 200-250kb per second downloads (pretty decent) and when teathered with my gaming pc I play Battleground Europe online and get an avg ping time of 150ms so its great but t-mobile is telling me I will have to pay an additional $15 per month to teather with the G2x which I dont want to do since I dont have to now for internet. I'm using a custom Energy Windows Mobile 6.5 rom currently and it also works great with bluetooth internet sharing so I dont even need to teather using my bluetooth adapter on my laptop. Is there anyway to have the same data teathering with the G2x without having to pay the extra $15 per month to t-mobile? Is this just a matter of installing the necessary applications to make that work as it does on my Touch Pro 2?
Not sure this adds too much to the conversation but I had been able to tether with my Vibrant for free until a couple weeks ago when I got a text advising I would need to purchase the plan, the next time I tethered it blocked tethering, I think this is happnening to all ther phones now that they offer a tethering plan. Would be interested in hearing if there is a work around though, I may use mine 1x a month for a limited amount of data so I can't justify the extra $15.
I did some searching and found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840539&highlight=t-mobile+teather&page=15
Sorry should have searched before posting. Plenty of information on this issue. But since I am eyeballing the G2x as my next phone and have very little experience with Android phones I would like to know if anyone that has this phone is teathering with it with no issues and of course not paying the additional $15 fee.
from what i have found is if you use the default tethering in the options you will see this happen. I have been using the Wifi Tether app http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ and have yet to see a problem. I used with my N1 as well as with my G2X right now and haven't got a text yet.
I've been tethering for the past year using Easy Tether with no problems. If they end up catching me I'll just do one of the many work arounds.
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Good to know. Thanks for the info.
I think it's extra just for Tethering. I think HotSpot is included with Data plan. At least that's what the T-Mobile Website says.
I heard the wifi hotspot that is built in the phone has like a trial period or something (you'll suddenly get a tmobile page on your browser when you hit the limit) and I tried the wireless tether for root 2.0.7 & 3 beta... but doesn't work.
Any other options to wifi tether for my laptop & Iconia A500 with MT4GS?
I've been using the Wifi Tether app -- http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- with no problems. Can you elaborate on how this was not functioning properly for you?
HebrewToYou said:
I've been using the Wifi Tether app -- http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- with no problems. Can you elaborate on how this was not functioning properly for you?
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I used the old one and it seem like it was getting a fail on accessing the wifi (when looking at the log).
When I use 3.0beta, everything loaded fine in the log... but when my laptop connected I get the yellow yield sign and no internet signal supposedly. let me download the latest one from your link and see what happens
what settings are you using? I just tried again and same problem. I tried connecting with my Iconia tab and it just kept saying "Obtaining IP address" and didn't do anything.
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nevermind, got it to work. keep playing with the settings.
Device Profile: AUTO
Setup Method: AUTO
Enable Wifi Encryption: CHECK
Change Channel: 01
Wifi Driver Reload: CHECK
Routing Fix: CHECK
Disable Wake Lock: CHECK
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I heard the wifi hotspot that is built in the phone has like a trial period or something (you'll suddenly get a tmobile page on your browser when you hit the limit) and I tried the wireless tether for root 2.0.7 & 3 beta... but doesn't work.
Any other options to wifi tether for my laptop & Iconia A500 with MT4GS?
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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I thought T-Mobile charges a *fee* to your account when using that app?
See this support discussion: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/6272
Also, go try and sign-up for a new plan on T-Mobile and check out this add-on service I've screen-capped...
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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Free ... assuming you've paid the monthly fee for tethering, right? The TMobile hotspot app pre-installed is only for those paying customers. Right? Or am I missing something here?
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Free ... assuming you've paid the monthly fee for tethering, right? The TMobile hotspot app pre-installed is only for those paying customers. Right? Or am I missing something here?
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No monthy fee for the app itself. You can have it but without a data plan or a wifi it won't connect. I'm not sure if it would run on another phone as a droid x etc.
. I could try to find the apk and let you try it?
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No it doesnt. WI FI app is 100% free. When you reach your limit you get a text saying you reached your limit and you connection has slowed down.
I've maxed it several times. No need for an outside app.
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I got the wireless tether app to work already.. so I'll just use that.
ok our native Tethering app works for FREE, as long as you dont abuse it, that tethering option fee only if you abuse it constantly and are constantly going over your set amount of data, so 1 you are hitting your data cap, so now your web is slower than a snail, two if you are constantly tethering T-mo is going to make you pay for tethering, and three, STOP ABUSING! i only use tethering for checking email every once in a while on my Laptop, and have never payed for the tethering option, i even spoke with a t-mo rep, and he said its basically only for abusers that tmo makes pay the $15 for tethering. hope this clears things up a bit.
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ok our native Tethering app works for FREE, as long as you dont abuse it, that tethering option fee only if you abuse it constantly and are constantly going over your set amount of data, so 1 you are hitting your data cap, so now your web is slower than a snail, two if you are constantly tethering T-mo is going to make you pay for tethering, and three, STOP ABUSING! i only use tethering for checking email every once in a while on my Laptop, and have never payed for the tethering option, i even spoke with a t-mo rep, and he said its basically only for abusers that tmo makes pay the $15 for tethering. hope this clears things up a bit.
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Errrrr...
Not calling your integrity into question, but I wouldn't believe this for a second. T-Mobile is a business and it doesn't seem likely that they would give their services away for free when they have an explicit add-on service they charge for.
Why run the risk when you can *easily* just install the Android Wifi Tether app and use that service a bit further off of T-Mobile's radar? It just seems far, far safer.
Just use Barnacle to wifi tether.
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No monthy fee for the app itself.
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Well of course not. The app came installed on the phone. The data service that it requires to be able to work is $15 monthly. Rip off.
I've used the android wifi tether app but can't seem to get anything to work with it. Not many ad hoc compatible devices, I guess?
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Well of course not. The app came installed on the phone. The data service that it requires to be able to work is $15 monthly. Rip off.
I've used the android wifi tether app but can't seem to get anything to work with it. Not many ad hoc compatible devices, I guess?
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It works with my android tablet (nook color) and all my Macs, so not sure what to tell ya.
I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
Techlvr said:
I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
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Barnacle works and it won't alert T-Mobile.
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I have been using the built in tethering for a long time but just a couple of days ago I got redirected to T-Mobiles site and asked to pay 14.95 a month to continue to tether. I hardly ever used it so looks like they are starting to crack down.
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This has been happening to me for a while, I even started a thread about it, but no one responded....if you change your user agent to the same one your phone uses, then you will be fine, but it will take you to the mobile version of some sites.
Have you tried one of these 3rd party apps? Does it still happen?
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Have you tried one of these 3rd party apps? Does it still happen?
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Yes I have tried Barnacle several times, and it will still direct me to the the Tmobile warning screen....but if you just change your user agent on what ever you are trying to tether to (computer, tablet, ect..) change it to the same one on your phone, and the stock app and 3rd party apps work fine, but occasionally it will take you to a mobile version of the site you are trying to view.
Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet. So can I safely go nuts tethering to my tablet as if it was my phone due to it looking like I'm using my phone or am I way off and can Verizon tell I'm tethering and using my tablet. I really just want tot tether the hell out f my tablet when I need it. Anyways as this is XDA can I hide it safely? I have an unlimited data plan so the whole OK to tether thing since that lawsuit doesn't apply to me with this.
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Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet.
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I don't know about the packet size issue you mentioned.
Otherwise, I have read that if*your Verizon tethering indicator turns on or your usage suddenly goes quite high for a month or more, they might suspect you of tethering without a plan and look into it. It's also said that apps like PDAnet make it very difficult for the service provider to figure out if you are tethering or not - regardless of what you're connected to.
- ooofest
VZW can no longer block tethering on 4g phones. Due to FCC saying so. Simple Google search will fond multiple articles.
There is no restrictions on unlimited versus tiered data plan. What counts is that you have a 4g phone. Check out this article ans the tether away.
http://www.zdnet.com/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-for-wi-fi-tethering-7000001916/
Rocking T2 on the unlocked VSG3!
I've read differently. It sounds like if you have an unlimited data plan you can only use that data plan for a single device meaning that you can't tether the unlimited data. I read multiple places that this is part of the terms of service and it doesn't apply to unlimited data plan users... M
aybe somebody can clarify this for me because it would be great to use my unlimited data for tethering when on vacations.
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Tethering
Its like not paying you bill. You get a warning. You can always deny it or ignore it. Modern PDANet if thats what you are boing to use has some countermeasures. At least 2 I think. Don't know if they are effective. You can just use Orobot to tunnel your traffic and I'm pretty certain that would work. I don't know what you plan to do but I wouldn't go download something shady from some torrent site though. Web browsing and getting email is probably fine.
I've been tethering my laptop to my phone since I first figured out how to do it with the Droid X. Meaning basically since I rooted it and found a decent tether app. Out of 5 people on a business share plan(business version of family plan - add a line for 9.99 etc) I've always had significantly highest usage. 5 gigs at a bare minimum, and not once has verizon figured out I'm tethering.
I honestly dont think they can really tell if you are or arent tehtering. 4g or 3g.
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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I believe you can if you turn it on through the notification toggles...Why tho? The WiFi for Root Users is a lot more customizable...
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Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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atm no. the software is still there to keep you from doing that. IF you root, the world is your oyster though... and they aren't actually allowed to do anything to do. They just aren't rushing to open everyone up to free hotspotting.
For some reason, I am getting an error when I try using t0mmy (found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261) one click tether enabler. I've done some searching and cannot find anyone else who has had this issue. What the heck am I missing (screenshots attached)?! Any ideas?
Info:
- Stock AT&T ROM
- Rooted
- Android 4.0.4
- Used on StraightTalk... all APNs are setup correctly... data works on the phone.
For solution, SEE BELOW
One other thing I should mention is that even when I am using `android-wifi-tether` it will not work. It just shows up as a device on my computer when it is turned on as a wifi hotspot.
I've downloaded SQLite Browser and have changed all fields with "broadband" to "pta". Still no go.
I don't understand what you need that program for...
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When I click to activate the native wifi hotspot, it says that I cannot have a hotspot and to call 611. So I am trying Android Wifi Tether, which works for a little bit then after about 3 seconds, says "what the hell, your phone is taking over. shutting down wifi." Something like that. I'm just trying to get this phone setup so my friend can use it as a hotspot.
SQLite is to edit my `telephony.db`
Well, I do believe that it could be because you are using a stock rom, so att bulit in securities could be taking over. Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering. it is the way the apn connects. now you can try to change your apn to BROADBAND, which is tethering, but again, but warned. if your data plan changes (esepcially if you are grandfathered into one), then that's on you...
so here are my suggestions: change the APN to broadband, get off the stock, and im sure there are a plethora of apps in the play market that should work
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Also, I do want you to know that ATT does have advanced technology to detect tethering. without notice, they can upgrade you data plan to 5gb ($50) because you were caught tethering.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
The days when you could easily pirate tethering may be coming to an end. AT&T has really cracked down on it and improved their methods of detection. Even if you get this working, you will get caught if you start tethering regularly.
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They will send you a warning (physical letter or SMS, can't remember which exactly) notifying you have been caught tethering without the appropriate data plan. Then, if you are caught again, they will change you plan.
Probably nobody except folks at AT&T know the exact methods they use to monitor for tethering. But the thought here is that a high amount of usage will raise red flags, then they will examine data packets for the signs of tethering.
Some folks (myself included) have been able to tether without getting caught, by just doing it occasionally, and keeping the data usage low. But even then, the system seems far from consistent. I've seen a couple of folks report on here getting the tethering warning from AT&T, despite having never even tethered.
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I do apologize, you are right. You will get a notice first. And then if you continue, then you will still bumped out. It is an email AND a SMS. Using small amount of data is usually the way to go. But if you trying to tether a computer, then most likely the data usage will be high. As I mentioned in other posts, as a former AT&T employee, if you want to tether, just upgrade your data plan. If you are on unlimited data, you will already get throttled at 3gb, so the Unlimited data and 3gb are basically the same thing, which is why the price is the same.
I have seem some accounts when excessive tethering is done, that the data is actually suspended, no matter what the case is. It's weird that AT&T can do that, but it is in their wireless agreement, which is at section 6 i think.
Thanks for the heads up about AT&T clamping down on this. It is good to know. I am doing this for an elderly couple who rarely use the internet. This is their first smart phone. They are savvy enough to know what that message means if they get it. I will let them know about it too.
They mainly will be accessing on the device itself but wanted the option to use it as a hotspot as well. They are already paying for data... they purchased the phone used and are under no contract (on Straight Talk). They want to use something they own, however they want. It's too bad AT&T is so mean.
It's like buying a computer and then the manufacturer says you cannot use bluetooth unless you pay them a monthly service charge.
[SOLUTION]
Oh yeah, I forgot to post that I figured a way out to get 'android-wifi-tether.apk' to work on the stock AT&T ROM.... here we go:
Get "Proxoid" from the Google Play Store
Get WiFi Tether from the Google Play Store (or from here [QR Codes in link]: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/)
Get a mobile data widget
Once you have them installed, get them all lined up somewhere you can easily run them one after the other.
Make sure mobile data OFF before you turn anything on.
Open Proxoid and check the box to start/stop Proxoid... you want it ON
Open WiFi Tether and turn on tethering
Now you can turn on mobile data
This worked successful for me. I tested it for about 10-15 minutes, playing YouTube videos, reading some blogs, checked out some google image searches and so on. If you do not turn Proxoid on before mobile data is on, this will NOT work.
ENJOY! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
UPDATE: This only worked on my Mac and Android phone. Mac picked up the HOX as a "device" instead of a wifi connection but it worked. Windows cannot find the connection at all. If someone knows how to get Windows to find the device and use it as a hotspot please let me know.
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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exad said:
While tethering is a feature of the phone they own, the data being used is a service that is not owned and while I don't agree with what at&t does, I can understand why they would discourage tethering and it is technically within their right to limit how their data is used. They/you could have picked another company that allows tethering but as a consequence you may face saturation from all those heavy tether users.
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Which is the reason behind the detection. Same as throttling. With the explosion of bandwidth needed, the big companies cannot keep up. Hence why smaller companies offer unlimited data.
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I have been a customer of Virgin Mobile for years. When I purchase my new LG Volt they said I had to move to a new plan that went from $25/mo to $35/mo because it uses 3G or 4G or some such thing. The plan was for 300 minutes a month and unlimited data and supposedly stayed the same when moving to the new plan.
Anyway, on my old phone I could tether and since I had unlimited data in both cases I thought that I could tether my new phone to my pc like I did the old one. Didn't happen. Seems VM is now blocking tethering unless you purchase something call HOTSPOT for more money.
So my question is:
Is it possible to override the blocking of tethering on a phone and use your data plan with your pc tethered to your phone? I would think with a rooted phone there would be a way to fake out the phone to make it think the data is from the phone rather than a tethered device.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I have been a customer of Virgin Mobile for years. When I purchase my new LG Volt they said I had to move to a new plan that went from $25/mo to $35/mo because it uses 3G or 4G or some such thing. The plan was for 300 minutes a month and unlimited data and supposedly stayed the same when moving to the new plan.
Anyway, on my old phone I could tether and since I had unlimited data in both cases I thought that I could tether my new phone to my pc like I did the old one. Didn't happen. Seems VM is now blocking tethering unless you purchase something call HOTSPOT for more money.
So my question is:
Is it possible to override the blocking of tethering on a phone and use your data plan with your pc tethered to your phone? I would think with a rooted phone there would be a way to fake out the phone to make it think the data is from the phone rather than a tethered device.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Pda net can be used for tethering.. If ur phone doesn't support tethering...
Yes pda net will be perfect for you but its a pc software and it will be perfect for you only then if your phone doesn't support tethering
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JimReid said:
I have been a customer of Virgin Mobile for years. When I purchase my new LG Volt they said I had to move to a new plan that went from $25/mo to $35/mo because it uses 3G or 4G or some such thing. The plan was for 300 minutes a month and unlimited data and supposedly stayed the same when moving to the new plan.
Anyway, on my old phone I could tether and since I had unlimited data in both cases I thought that I could tether my new phone to my pc like I did the old one. Didn't happen. Seems VM is now blocking tethering unless you purchase something call HOTSPOT for more money.
So my question is:
Is it possible to override the blocking of tethering on a phone and use your data plan with your pc tethered to your phone? I would think with a rooted phone there would be a way to fake out the phone to make it think the data is from the phone rather than a tethered device.
Anyone have any ideas?
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There's a few different options, but USB tethering with PdaNet is the easiest and probably the best, so long as you only need the one connection. It doesn't require root, and USB tethering takes far less juice than wifi tethering does. It uses a companion app on your PC, and there's an option to "hide tether usage", which creates a sorta VPN which prevents the provider from knowing how you're using the data. This should work for you, but I can't confirm for certain. PdaNet is $8 (well worth it), but there's a free trial version so you can test before purchasing (it cuts your connection off after ~10 minutes and you have to reload the app).
Any method to bypass wifi tether provisioning will require root plus using the hotspot generates a ton of heat and will nuke your battery in very short order. Which is all well and good if you want to root anyway. I use Fabio Grasso's Wifi Tether Router. It's $2.50 (and well worth it). It can be a bit tricky to set up, as different phones require different settings. Plus he's Italian, so his English isn't the best. But he'll respond to an email if you're having difficulty, and it's regularly updated for new Android versions, new devices, and bug fixes. PdaNet should be your main method, but it never hurts to have both in case you need a hotspot for a laptop or tablet while away from home. You can actually use both simultaneously, which I do at home to provide a connection to my PC, tablet, and any phone that doesn't have the SIM card in.
Thanks to all of you responding. It seems to work find with USB tethering which will serve my purposes but the wifi tethering didn't seem to work right off so I'll have to play with it. It gave the same error about contacting my provider because it doesn't support HotSpots and I need to purchase that option. But the like I said the USB option seems to work fine and will serve me well. Thanks again to all of your responses.
Jim