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[APP] NoLED v6.0.19 - Use the AMOLED screen for incoming notifications

Before asking questions, please read the FAQ.
Introduction:
I saw the idea posted somewhere previously that instead of getting the capacitive lights on, we really should be putting the phone's AMOLED screen to work ! specially that it doesn't consume any backlight energy when displaying a black screen. So I developed an app that does just that: upon receiving a notification, it will display a black screen with a dot or icon somewhere in the screen. I really should put these in bullet points..
Description:
the application does the following:
1. When your phone receives a notification, it switches the screen on and displays a notification. The notification bounces around every 3 seconds (changeable via an option). This will guarantee using different LEDs so that the same ones won't be burned out.
2. You can customize whether to have a dot or an icon for each type of supported notification. Users may also customize the colors of these icons/dots.
3. NoLED will work with SMS/MMS, Gtalk, Gmail, Missed calls, Voicemail, Calendar and K-9 (email client) without any additional permissions. Any other 3rd party software (e.g. Whatsapp, Email app, Yahoo Mail and Hotmail) will need to be checked under Monitored Apps and will require granting Accessibility rights to NoLED.
4. The app runs as a service, after installing, you have two ways to activate the app. (a) by restarting. (b) by loading the widget into your home screen and clicking on it.
5. To get rid of the notification screen, you may use the home or the back key. You can enable dismissal via more keys in the Miscellaneous submenu. Once your notifications are dismissed, all notifications disappear and will not come back up.
I have also logged the touch drivers and saw that although I'm displaying a black screen and setting flags to not respond to touch messages, android is still receiving touch messages when you touch any spot on the screen. This, I imagine, consumes resources! So I disabled the touch drivers when the black screen is active. Dismissing the notifications should reactive the touch drivers. If your screen is unresponsive to touch even after the notification screen is dismissed, a simple restart should take care of it. There is also an option to completely disable that feature. The touch drivers are only disabled on the Samsung Galaxy S variants, all other devices are still receptive to touch events.
Now the touchscreen drivers were a lot easier to mess around with. The sourcecode given by samsung helped me achieve the activation/deactivation of the screen. Things are not the same with the capacitive buttons. You'll notice that when the black screen is on, if you touch any of the soft buttons, they'll light up (although am suppressing them programatically). On some other devices like the Nexus S, these backlights cannot be switched off once the screen is turned on programatically. This is a bug from Google and more info is in the FAQ.
Video review:
Thank you totallydubbedHD for giving us this neat preview of the app:
Themes:
Want to change the default icons that ship with NoLED?
Check out Themes:
http://www.devasque.com/noled/themes.php
Official web site:
http://www.devasque.com/noled/
Translations:
NoLED is translated into several languages thanks to our army of volunteers ! More details can be found at: http://www.devasque.com/noled/translations.php
If you think you can help expand that list, please see this link
I appreciate all the help we can get on this.
Enjoy ! Comments and feedback will be appreciated
Update 8/11/2010: Application is now on the Android Market.
If you like this work and want to motivate and encourage further development, please consider a donation
Thanks

Change log
v6.0.19 6/5/2013
Added Vietnamese, updated Italian and Ukranian (Thanks nhh1994, 4lex and Olex)
Support Gmail 4.5 and new tabbed inbox
NoLED will insert a .nomedia in the custom themes folder so as not to show these themes in your Gallery app
Please go to http://www.devasque.com/noled/change.php for the complete change log.
NoLED Weather
v0.8 10/23/2012
Weather should now reflect current city more accurately; it will choose the first returned search result.
v0.7 10/10/2012
Weather was not automatically updating after a restart. Now it does.
v0.5 9/13/2012
Fixed an issue where geolocator was causing auto-update to stop working.
v0.4 9/6/2012
Updated language files
Changed weather provider to MSN. Google just quietly killed their APIs
Changed geolocator timeout to 90 seconds (used to be 20 seconds)
v0.3 1/26/2012
Added Geolocation using Wireless networks (no physical GPS will be used).
-it will give up wireless location discovery after 20 seconds (will release all wakelocks).
-if timedout, weather will query the latest weather location on record.
Removed the noled weather icon from the app launcher (i personally found it so ugly and useless). Instead, you access the weather app/plug-in via the NoLED settings under toggle notifications (requires NoLED > v5.0.1b).
FAQ
Please go to http://www.devasque.com/noled/FAQ.php.

Can this dot be made to look like a mail icon for SMS ... "!" for missed call etc?

Perfect, BIG thanks. One less issue with SGS

this is a very clever idea.
I tried it out, but it isnt working for me on my Samsung Captivate

andy2na said:
this is a very clever idea.
I tried it out, but it isnt working for me on my Samsung Captivate
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Strange, it really should work.
Did you lock the screen and unlock once after installation ? Try sending a sms to yourself from another phone while the screen is off. Then wait for about 10 seconds (enough time for the whole screen to light up, go off, and then show a notification). Let me know if this still doesn't work, the captivate might have different screen timeouts than our galaxy S.

No working
Its now working on my SGS.
The reason could be > I have lost my default notifications after sd card fix. I do have a media folder on my sdcard/sd with default samsung tones which i copied before the fix on to my ext sd.
Any solutions ?

rkadve said:
Its now working on my SGS.
The reason could be > I have lost my default notifications after sd card fix. I do have a media folder on my sdcard/sd with default samsung tones which i copied before the fix on to my ext sd.
Any solutions ?
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I would say try to sms from another phone, or give yourself a missed call to see if the application is running. These should work regardless of where you placed your notification tones.
If these do work, then make sure you place your notification tones in /sdcard/sd/media/audio/notifications , playing any of them should trigger the notification.

Unfortunatly not working for me too. Using JG1 and modaco´s r2. All default ringtones selected.
Would love to get this working.

Bajo76 said:
Unfortunatly not working for me too. Using JG1 and modaco´s r2. All default ringtones selected.
Would love to get this working.
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Can you go to Settings > Applications > Running Services and see whether NoLED is listed there ?

suggestions that i don't think would consume too much power:
Have different images for different notifications, as suggested before: phone icon for call, mail icon for mail, sms icon for sms etc.
Also make possible to have all the different icons at once, so if i have missed a text message and a mail, there would be 2 icons on the screen at the same time.
Also have a number for how many of missed text's, mails i have missed on the corresponding icon.
Make the image jump to a different random spot every few second, so it won't just stay in one place and so be bad for the panel. (dunno if this would consume too much energy).

madmack said:
Can you go to Settings > Applications > Running Services and see whether NoLED is listed there ?
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yes it is listed

yep, locked and unlocked it. it is also listed in the running services

buddy01 said:
suggestions that i don't think would consume too much power:
Have different images for different notifications, as suggested before: phone icon for call, mail icon for mail, sms icon for sms etc.
Make the image jump to a different random spot every few second, so it won't just stay in one place and so be bad for the panel. (dunno if this would consume too much energy).
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I think these are two great ideas. I'll try to implement them if I get sometime. I will try to set a different icon/color for each notification, and make them move around every few seconds. This might have a hit on cpu utilization, but its well worth a try.
Bajo76 said:
yes it is listed
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With what are you testing the application btw ? Are you sending an email to yourself ? If you turn the screen off, send an email that has a default samsung ringtone, do you receive anything?

I tested it with my phone at home calling my mobile. And i´m getting emails all the way but unfortunatly no red dot on screen.

Is this app in the market? I can't see it in the op on the xda app.

Now it is working. Changed the ringtone (the old one selected was also a dtandard ringtone) and rebooted.
Now it works!

How come this method got so quickly made, but the other method still isn't functional? (talking about the other thread)

INeedYourHelp said:
How come this method got so quickly made, but the other method still isn't functional? (talking about the other thread)
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well, the android SDK allows for programs like this to exist, the SDK has no APIs to support lighting up the soft buttons. that's why.
also, the drivers for the backlight are disabled and enabled in ways that we don't fully understand yet.

Very impressed so far! Definitely something I'll donate to in the future if it gets a few more features.
What I'd like to see:
- Custom colours for different notifications/multiple notifications.
- The dot slightly higher up or have it configurable where the dot is/how big it is.
That's about all I can think of for now, great work .

[Q] Is this normal?

I am a new Z3 owner (D6603, rooted, locked BL on 23.0.1.A.5.77) coming from a long list of Samsung devices. I've noticed two small things that bug me and wanted to ask if these are normal.
The first thing is, for lack of a better word, keeping apps in the background. For instance, if I am in the twitter app, click on a link to a story which opens in Chrome, then share the story via email by way of chrome's share function, it then opens my email app. When I'm done sending the email and hit the back button, instead of taking me back to Chrome, it returns me to the home screen. This is different than every other Samsung device I have. Those will return me to chrome, then hitting the back button again returns me to twitter app. Basically it reverses the complete path. I'll admit this might seem silly but given my normal workflow of going from app to app, returning on the same path is important. Is there some setting on the Z3 that I need to set to enable this behavior?
The second has to do with notifications. If I have multiple notifications, as expected, the icons for each notification appear in the notification bar when the notification window is collapsed, but as soon as I click on any one of the notifications, the icons disappear from the collapsed notification bar. If I expand the notification bar, all the notifications are still there, but the icons don't show when the notification bar is collapsed. Is this normal for the Z3?
Thank you in advance for your help!

Hi there
Regarding your first problem: I actually just tried this with Facebook (clicking a link), open Chrome and sharing it via Gmail
and it behaves just as you said you wanted it to, it brought me back to Chrome and then back to FB.
That notifications disappear from the status bar (collapsed notification bar?) is really unusual.
Never happened to me before, neither did I hear/read about such problems.
I'd suggest to either check if some apps are causing this (like apps which handle notifications)
or reflash the firmware through recovery (but a different, maybe your own created zip) as I think
the first problem is a system failure.
Maybe someone else can help you better, just wanted to let you know that this isn't usual for the Z3

Settings, Personalisation, Clear viewed notifications
Edit: The default setting is unticked btw, so I guess you must have changed it.

Newt182 said:
Settings, Personalisation, Clear viewed notifications
Edit: The default setting is unticked btw, so I guess you must have changed it.
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Thank you! That took care of the notification problem.

So I just noticed the back glass panel on my phone wasn't fully glued at the factory. Kind of a major defect for a waterproof phone. Shame, I really like the phone but sending it back for replacement. Hopefully the new one doesn't have the recents problem. Thanks everyone.

How do we fix notifcations and not app shutting down ?

This reminds me a lot of older Huawei days I hate with my Mate 8...so I am little bit familiar.. that we have to whitelist.
But can some one tell me what I need to do for the apps that have push notifications ?
Is it 2 or 3 places I need to white list ???
From what I remember from my Huawei days was... I did only whitelist apps that used push notifcation or that was a multimedia app for video or audio, the others dont need to run in the background really..
so the concept are not wrong.. but.. I think vivo software should detect if the app want to use push notifications and ask the user if we want to allow that or not...it would make the set up more simple.
I could probably figure it out myself but this would save time..and also its good information for other new owners of the device. Besides this I am super happy with this Vivo Device, its clear to me that Vivo is the next Huawei, the only bad thing about vivo is their pricing, Vivos brand is not strong outside china so it will take time for them to build up same brand as huawei.

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blackinfinity said:
This reminds me a lot of older Huawei days I hate with my Mate 8...so I am little bit familiar.. that we have to whitelist.
But can some one tell me what I need to do for the apps that have push notifications ?
Is it 2 or 3 places I need to white list ???
From what I remember from my Huawei days was... I did only whitelist apps that used push notifcation or that was a multimedia app for video or audio, the others dont need to run in the background really..
so the concept are not wrong.. but.. I think vivo software should detect if the app want to use push notifications and ask the user if we want to allow that or not...it would make the set up more simple.
I could probably figure it out myself but this would save time..and also its good information for other new owners of the device. Besides this I am super happy with this Vivo Device, its clear to me that Vivo is the next Huawei, the only bad thing about vivo is their pricing, Vivos brand is not strong outside china so it will take time for them to build up same brand as huawei.
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We need to Allow Apps to AutoStart & Run in the Background
Funtouch OS Kills most apps in the background in order to achieve better battery life and you would often find yourself missing notifications from your apps like whatsapp, telegram, instagram, twitter etc. You have to allow them to Autostart & Whitelist them/Allow to run in the background if you want to receive timely notifications. To do so follow the below:
* Settings > More Settings > Permission Management > Autostart (Select your preferred apps)
* Settings > Battery > High Background Power Consumption > Select apps
Allow the apps to continue running in the background so keep receiving notifications instantly.
I recommend most social media apps and messenger apps like Whatsapp, Telegram, Instagram, Twitter along with your Widgets and any other applications that are important for you to keep active.
Hope this helps :fingers-crossed:

that is OK...try using the SofaScore application but not with home wifi network...try with mobile network, I think the notifications in this case are not coming regularly

One more thing I figured out is to make sure background data is on. It is hard to find in the settings. I wasn't getting my email notifications for the stock email app even with all the settings correct.
i somehow found that the background data was off for some reason for that app. Turned it on now everything works great.

RoccoN4 said:
One more thing I figured out is to make sure background data is on. It is hard to find in the settings. I wasn't getting my email notifications for the stock email app even with all the settings correct.
i somehow found that the background data was off for some reason for that app. Turned it on now everything works great.
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can you guide us, how do we find this setting ?

blackinfinity said:
can you guide us, how do we find this setting ?
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I have Nova Launcher. Press and hold the settings spp. You should see a pop up that says battery, data and wifi. Go to data. In there go to data usage. Find the app you are not getting notifications. Check to see if background data is enabled. I don't know how to find this setting by not using Nova Launcher.
Hope this helps.

RoccoN4 said:
I have Nova Launcher. Press and hold the settings spp. You should see a pop up that says battery, data and wifi. Go to data. In there go to data usage. Find the app you are not getting notifications. Check to see if background data is enabled. I don't know how to find this setting by not using Nova Launcher.
Hope this helps.
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Sorry this did not help me to find the setting.

blackinfinity said:
Sorry this did not help me to find the setting.
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What setting couldn't you find? The man settings icon in your app drawer. Press and hold. A pop up should appear. Should say Battery, Data and Wifi. Hit the data. On this page, go to Mobile Data Used. There should be a list of apps that have used data. Find the app you are looking for and make sure background data is on. Or even go through the list and turn off background data to apps you don't want. If the app you are looking for isn't there, try again after you have used the phone for a while. Give the app some time to show up.
This is the only way I know of getting to this setting.

RoccoN4 said:
What setting couldn't you find? The man settings icon in your app drawer. Press and hold. A pop up should appear. Should say Battery, Data and Wifi. Hit the data. On this page, go to Mobile Data Used. There should be a list of apps that have used data. Find the app you are looking for and make sure background data is on. Or even go through the list and turn off background data to apps you don't want. If the app you are looking for isn't there, try again after you have used the phone for a while. Give the app some time to show up.
This is the only way I know of getting to this setting.
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I found it now... it seem all have background data enabled.. I think this get enabled when you allow high background consumption.

blackinfinity said:
I found it now... it seem all have background data enabled.. I think this get enabled when you allow high background consumption.
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What app are you having issuea with out of curiosity?
I keep having issues with the stock email app. Third party email apps work properly.

Ok, I have a problem with notifications.
It's annoying that you can't drag the notifications screen down from the top in the lockscreen, it only works after you unlock the phone.
Also, some notifications in the lock screen don't fully show, they are also not responsove to touch(as to expanding the notification in the lockscreen to show more info)
I can only see what they say after I unlock the phone, drag the top down and press the little arrow that now appears on the right side of google notifications as in the example pics below
The arrow is not there in lock screen, I can't "expand" notifications in lockscreen...
You understand what I mean???
Lockscreen notification 1 st pic and unlocked screen notification second after I press the little arrow
Same for example when I got multiple whatsapp messages, in other phones in the lock screen I touch the notification in the lockscreen and "drag" it down, it expands to show me the messages, in the Nex this is not possible
Any fix? Thanks

Try remove com.vivo.pem in adb shell.

CapraSebi said:
Ok, I have a problem with notifications.
It's annoying that you can't drag the notifications screen down from the top in the lockscreen, it only works after you unlock the phone.
Also, some notifications in the lock screen don't fully show, they are also not responsove to touch(as to expanding the notification in the lockscreen to show more info)
I can only see what they say after I unlock the phone, drag the top down and press the little arrow that now appears on the right side of google notifications as in the example pics below
The arrow is not there in lock screen, I can't "expand" notifications in lockscreen...
You understand what I mean???
Lockscreen notification 1 st pic and unlocked screen notification second after I press the little arrow
Same for example when I got multiple whatsapp messages, in other phones in the lock screen I touch the notification in the lockscreen and "drag" it down, it expands to show me the messages, in the Nex this is not possible
Any fix? Thanks
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This is very common issue between Chinese software iOS style like Funtouch,MIUI,EMIU.
They don’t support expandable notifications on lock screen neither option like reply or delete from various app like Viber,WhatsApp,outlook,messenger,Gmail.
You can’t resolve it even with third party app because Google remove with Oreo overlays management on lock screen from third party app.
Only when native being supported by OEM.
Unfortunately Chinese OEM interact badly to core Android OS by removing basic features like expandable notifications.
All other non Chinese skin support this feature(Samsung,LG,Sony etc)
The only Chinese OEM support it is OnePlus because of Oxygen skin being stock based.
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paatha13 said:
This is very common issue between Chinese software iOS style like Funtouch,MIUI,EMIU.
They don’t support expandable notifications on lock screen neither option like reply or delete from various app like Viber,WhatsApp,outlook,messenger,Gmail.
You can’t resolve it even with third party app because Google remove with Oreo overlays management on lock screen from third party app.
Only when native being supported by OEM.
Unfortunately Chinese OEM interact badly to core Android OS by removing basic features like expandable notifications.
All other non Chinese skin support this feature(Samsung,LG,Sony etc)
The only Chinese OEM support it is OnePlus because of Oxygen skin being stock based.
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Thanks for the reply. I made a side by side comparison vixeo with a samsung s 6 and sent it to Vivo on Facebook. Customer service has been amazing I must say

I have the Chinese version of the NEX. Settings\Status Bar and Notifications\Manage Notifications. On my list I have apps listed including my Android messaging app, which lets me select detailed message info on my lock screen.

Saloei said:
I have the Chinese version of the NEX. Settings\Status Bar and Notifications\Manage Notifications. On my list I have apps listed including my Android messaging app, which lets me select detailed message info on my lock screen.
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But you can’t reply or delete a massage(WhatsApp Viber,Facebook messenger etc)or email(Gmail,outlook)through lock screen since does not let you expand on it.
And if you get long massage with many words characters you can’t read all of the massage but half only, unless unlocked the screen and pull down notifications center.
Vivo software does not support expand notifications on lock screen just like non Chinese android skin.
I had the same issue with Huawei and Xiaomi device when I had it.
Take a look at this screenshot.
I’ve got 3 emails from outlook but I can’t read the details each one also not having option of reply or delete each massage.
The same with Gmail I can’t expand so I can’t read the whole message and just like outlook I can’t delete or reply directly through lock screen.
In both situations I have to unlocked the phone and the pull down notifications center and only then let me do that.
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paatha13 said:
But you can’t reply or delete a massage(WhatsApp Viber,Facebook messenger etc)or email(Gmail,outlook)through lock screen since does not let you expand on it.
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i have solution for the lockscreen reply i use this app my self over 3 months now, even buyed the pro version but right now i´m in the beta phase, i like this app alot it´s a nice little app to solve the problem ava lockscreen, you can even change the look and shape of the messanges on the lockscreen like android or ios style, try it out. if someone knew better app to reply messages on lockscreen please let me know.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jamworks.alpha&hl=gsw

Physical World App

This app has appeared on my home screen after I updated numerous apps from Google Play.
I can find no information about it. No idea what it does. It does not appear in Settings - Apps nor does it have a widget. I've attached a screenshot of my home screen when the app is started. It adds a curved set of lines across the lower part of the screen and a icon in top right corner that when pressed, returns the screen to its original form.
Can anyone share information about this app?

I've had this exact same thing happen. Weirdly, this posting is the only thing I can find *anywhere* on the internet. It doesn't show up when I display the apps in Application Manager, which is pretty bizarre (and it's not sorted in alphabetical order in my app drawer).
Do you use GoLauncher? They've been touting something about making icons dance when you shake the phone, though that's not *quite* the behavior we see here.
Interestingly (and a bit scarily), when I long-pressed on it to delete it - it disappeared rather than displaying with the 'x' in the corner that would let me uninstall it.

An update: I re-sorted my app drawer again and it appeared. When I long-pressed and then pressed the X to uninstall it, I got a message saying "You will not be able to use the shortcut in App Drawer anymore, sure to delete it?".
I'm 99.999% sure this is more odd behavior from Go Launcher - which has become more annoying with every new release, to the point where I'm considering getting rid of it (sudden ads on lockscreen? Sudden pulldown notifications blocking the screen with no way to get rid of 'em?).
I can't imagine a *less* useful shortcut for them to offer, honestly!

I Agee. I have Go Launcher also and I have the same mystery app on my home screen. My daughter thinks it's pretty cool!

Question Display standby cover notifications

Hi,
I have an annoying problem: the display standby (hour with blurring background) covers notifications randomly.
e.g.: I receive a notification, the display turns on (i've this option enabled), I see the notification for a while, then the display goes to standby and I can't read anymore (see the attached photo).
Is it a privacy option? I've searched in all settings and I can't find anything to solve it
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
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It's a pain for me on covering any app! I would like to turn it off....

ok, after more tests I can say that it's definitely a privacy option: every time I rotate the wrist anticlockwise (watch is in my left arm), display goes to standby covering the notification.
There is no option to disable it, I checked every single menu...
The only way to reduce the pain is by activating "display on every wrist rotation" option, so with a wrist movement the display uncovers the notification
Any other ideas?

Come on, no other goes crazy about this thing?
Even after the last update, XXU1DUJA, no change at all: I receive a notification, I see the icon (not the message) of the app notificated, then blurred display and finally it goes off.
How can I read the notification without tap the display? Maybe it's because, due to Samsung Pay, I have lockscreen enabled (only for paments)?
EDIT: "show with details" under notification settings was off, now I see the message. but the blurred screen is still here....

tcpma said:
Come on, no other goes crazy about this thing?
Even after the last update, XXU1DUJA, no change at all: I receive a notification, I see the icon (not the message) of the app notificated, then blurred display and finally it goes off.
How can I read the notification without tap the display? Maybe it's because, due to Samsung Pay, I have lockscreen enabled (only for paments)?
EDIT: "show with details" under notification settings was off, now I see the message. but the blurred screen is still here....
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Turn on 'Raise Wrist to Wake' if you don't want to touch the display. Or, turn off AOD if you don't want that clock over your blurred notification. *Edit*: I see one commenter on Reddit suggested that updating the Messages app solves this - can't hurt to try that.

tcpma said:
Come on, no other goes crazy about this thing?
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Yes, you may include me. At first it didn't bother me, now it is just plain annoying. I have AOD on and wouldn't expect such nonsense. I get a message, I look at the watch, I am reading the screen, and bam, it puts that damn thing overtop. There is some sort of delay before it is displayed, but I can't quite determine how long or under what circumstances.
Why there is no option to turn that stupid digital clock overlay with blur thing OFF is a mystery to me. It seems to do this randomly on many screens- looking at notifications the most, but it is not restricted to that. I don't have Samsung or any other "Pay" on, I don't use a lockscreen on the watch.

crxssi said:
Yes, you may include me. At first it didn't bother me, now it is just plain annoying. I have AOD on and wouldn't expect such nonsense. I get a message, I look at the watch, I am reading the screen, and bam, it puts that damn thing overtop. There is some sort of delay before it is displayed, but I can't quite determine how long or under what circumstances.
Why there is no option to turn that stupid digital clock overlay with blur thing OFF is a mystery to me. It seems to do this randomly on many screens- looking at notifications the most, but it is not restricted to that. I don't have Samsung or any other "Pay" on, I don't use a lockscreen on the watch.
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Yeh, that AOD sux Big time!I can't look at anything without the clock overlay interruptions!

crxssi said:
Yes, you may include me. At first it didn't bother me, now it is just plain annoying. I have AOD on and wouldn't expect such nonsense. I get a message, I look at the watch, I am reading the screen, and bam, it puts that damn thing overtop. There is some sort of delay before it is displayed, but I can't quite determine how long or under what circumstances.
Why there is no option to turn that stupid digital clock overlay with blur thing OFF is a mystery to me. It seems to do this randomly on many screens- looking at notifications the most, but it is not restricted to that. I don't have Samsung or any other "Pay" on, I don't use a lockscreen on the watch.
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Have you tried turning off 'Hide Information' under the Security > Lock settings? And updating the Messages app (from Google Play on the watch)?

jtOttawa said:
Have you tried turning off 'Hide Information' under the Security > Lock settings? And updating the Messages app (from Google Play on the watch)?
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Right when I went into Wear app on the phone, there was message to update "Galaxy Wearable" 102.3MB. So I went ahead and did that, first. Then checked the Google Play app on phone, went into updates. There are no updates for any app. I checked installed apps, I have nothing named "Messages" installed. Checked Play on watch. Again, nothing to update and no app named "Messages" installed. I then checked security settings on watch, there is only one option called "lock" which is not on. There are no options except "Type" which is set to "none."
So, essentially, I can't do either of your suggestions... they don't appear to be valid on my watch/setup.

crxssi said:
Right when I went into Wear app on the phone, there was message to update "Galaxy Wearable" 102.3MB. So I went ahead and did that, first. Then checked the Google Play app on phone, went into updates. There are no updates for any app. I checked installed apps, I have nothing named "Messages" installed. Checked Play on watch. Again, nothing to update and no app named "Messages" installed. I then checked security settings on watch, there is only one option called "lock" which is not on. There are no options except "Type" which is set to "none."
So, essentially, I can't do either of your suggestions... they don't appear to be valid on my watch/setup.
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That's weird - right underneath 'Type', mine shows 'Hide Information.' It's in the manual too (page 70): https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/...R89X_R88X_R87X_R86X_EN_UM_071621_FINAL_AC.pdf *Edit*: And if you don't have a Messages app, what do you use for messages?

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That's weird - right underneath 'Type', mine shows 'Hide Information.' It's in the manual too (page 70): https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/...R89X_R88X_R87X_R86X_EN_UM_071621_FINAL_AC.pdf *Edit*: And if you don't have a Messages app, what do you use for messages?
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I can't explain why my options are different than what you describe or what is in that PDF (nice link to the manual, though). But there is nothing that says "hide information." Maybe it is tied to some other option you have turned on that I don't have on?
For text messages, I use Textra on my phone. I never installed any text or message-related app on the watch. It just works with texting. When I get a text message, it shows me their icon and/or the message, I can click on it and reply or mark it as "read" so I don't get repeat reminders. I can also compose a new text message by clicking on a contact on the watch contact tile. If I click on the "Messages" icon in the apps drawer, it says "To To use samsung messages, you need to make it the default messaging app on your phone" with a yes/no option (of course I am not going to say yes). By the way, while I was in the middle of transcribing that message, the damn digital clock blur overlay covered the display and I had to touch the screen so I could finish reading it.
When I go into Play on the phone and look at Textra, there is no indication that it had installed anything on the watch or that it has a WearOS component. So I don't know what I am using when interacting with text messages on the watch. Perhaps it is just something built-into WearOS?

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I can't explain why my options are different than what you describe or what is in that PDF (nice link to the manual, though). But there is nothing that says "hide information." Maybe it is tied to some other option you have turned on that I don't have on?
For text messages, I use Textra on my phone. I never installed any text or message-related app on the watch. It just works with texting. When I get a text message, it shows me their icon and/or the message, I can click on it and reply or mark it as "read" so I don't get repeat reminders. I can also compose a new text message by clicking on a contact on the watch contact tile. If I click on the "Messages" icon in the apps drawer, it says "To To use samsung messages, you need to make it the default messaging app on your phone" with a yes/no option (of course I am not going to say yes). By the way, while I was in the middle of transcribing that message, the damn digital clock blur overlay covered the display and I had to touch the screen so I could finish reading it.
When I go into Play on the phone and look at Textra, there is no indication that it had installed anything on the watch or that it has a WearOS component. So I don't know what I am using when interacting with text messages on the watch. Perhaps it is just something built-into WearOS?
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Ah, maybe that's it - it shows up because I have a PIN set, whereas if I understand correctly, you don't have any lock set (does that mean you can't use Samsung pay on the watch?). As for messages, I do use Samsung Messages. Your Textra message notifications clearly show up on the watch, even without an installed app - but then, doesn't that mean you can't compose a message from the watch?

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Ah, maybe that's it - it shows up because I have a PIN set, whereas if I understand correctly, you don't have any lock set (does that mean you can't use Samsung pay on the watch?). As for messages, I do use Samsung Messages. Your Textra message notifications clearly show up on the watch, even without an installed app - but then, doesn't that mean you can't compose a message from the watch?
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I have no lock screen and no PIN set. Also have no interest in "Pay", so I don't know if that would work or not.
As I mentioned above: "I can also compose a new text message by clicking on a contact on the watch contact tile."
In any case, my experience shows that this digital clock blur overlay thing is not related to "Messages" or lock screens. It seems to be inherent to all use cases.

OK, I feel pretty stupid now. The digital clock blur overlay thing is what appears when the screen "times out" and it is controlled under Settings> Display> Screen Timeout. Mine was set to 15 seconds. So even with AOD on, it still would do the blur thing in 15 seconds. I changed it to 30 seconds and now it does the blur thing in 30 seconds, instead.
Silly me, thinking that with AOD on, there wouldn't be a "screen timeout."

The AOD is not truly "Always On", it is just "ambient mode". If you turn AOD on, and the app doesn't support ambient mode, then after screen timeout or rotate the wrist, screen will be blurred and switch to watch face finally. Only if the app itself support ambient mode and AOD is on, that is truly "Always On". It is not privacy about, but a power save policy.

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The AOD is not truly "Always On", it is just "ambient mode". If you turn AOD on, and the app doesn't support ambient mode, then after screen timeout or rotate the wrist, screen will be blurred and switch to watch face finally. Only if the app itself support ambient mode and AOD is on, that is truly "Always On". It is not privacy about, but a power save policy.
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Good to know, that's the weird behavior I've been experiencing.... cheers

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OK, I feel pretty stupid now. The digital clock blur overlay thing is what appears when the screen "times out" and it is controlled under Settings> Display> Screen Timeout. Mine was set to 15 seconds. So even with AOD on, it still would do the blur thing in 15 seconds. I changed it to 30 seconds and now it does the blur thing in 30 seconds, instead.
Silly me, thinking that with AOD on, there wouldn't be a "screen timeout."
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Thanks! Now we have a little workaroung
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The AOD is not truly "Always On", it is just "ambient mode". If you turn AOD on, and the app doesn't support ambient mode, then after screen timeout or rotate the wrist, screen will be blurred and switch to watch face finally. Only if the app itself support ambient mode and AOD is on, that is truly "Always On". It is not privacy about, but a power save policy.
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Thanks! Now we have a better understanding of the problem.
But I have very few apps installed and the blur screen happens even after a notification: e.g. whatsapp or telegram. So the problem is in an hypothetical "notification" system app that doesn't support ambient mode. Not the best for a system app...
1) I feel GW4 vibration: a notification is arrived 2) I rotate the wrist to read the display 3) if I rotate out a little my wrist, display goes blur 4) If I rotate again the wrist in my direction, display returns readable
I keep thinking it's a privacy setting: after rotating the wrist out (point 3 in the example), I can't see the display and blurring it prevents other people to see my notification
My settings: always on display: enabled; screen timeout 30 sec (even with 15, same behaviour); display on when rotating wrist: enabled; display on when a notification arrives: enabled.