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SIM restrictions on unlocked European Note3

Latest News - Oct 9th 2013 - Clove, who specialise in sim-free/unlocked phones have suggested
that the Russian unlocking service at:
http://puman.ru/?selectlanguage=English
may be a solution for those concerned about the regional lock.
More info in the Clove blog at:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/09/25/samsung-galaxy-note-3-sim-limitations/
Whether or not the Note 3 Verizon (US) "Developer Edition" will be regionally locked remains to be seen,
At least the bootloader will, according to reports, be unlocked.
More skimpy details at the Samsung/Verizon page at: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW
More Recent News - Oct 6th 2013 - Chainfire appears to have created an app to
get round region locking for the Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 (MI7 firmware) and rooted
You can buy Chainfire a beer (£1.99) by downloading the app from the Play Store at:
http://pkg.to/eu.chainfire.regionlockaway
There is also a thread started by Chainfire at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46187852 where meanies(!) can download it free.
Recent News (01:30 Oct 3rd 2013)
Android Authority: Galaxy Note 3 region lock is an issue after all, Android 4.4 update may lock older Galaxy handsets http://goo.gl/KjgVwc
Previous news (1st Oct 2013)
A significant number of users still claim they can't use "out of region" sims despite having first used a sim for the region the Note 3 was intended for which is the way Samsung have said is the way to 'unlock' the regional sim lock.
A number of users in this thread who found their Note3 was still region locked despite following the Samsung advice have successfully unlocked their Note3 regional lock using a Russian unlocking web site at http://puman.ru/ Although I am the OP of this thread, I do not have an out of region Sim to test this out myself - so no guarantees but read the posts!
Pics say it all. The Note 3 "unlocked" models are still locked to regions like DVD's and thus not very attractive to globetrotters or international purchasers who are being asked to pay £600 or so for a crippled device.
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htc6500uk said:
Pic says it all. Will not work with USA, Australia etc. sim cards either of course.
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That better not be the case, mine will be delivered today and i'm in the U.S. next week. If it doesn't work out there like my Note 2 does, it's going straight back.

It will only accept European sim cards. As long as your UK mobile opeator has a roaming arrangement with a US carrier, you will still be able to use the phone but you won't have the option of using a sim card from Verizon, Sprint etc.
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I thought i was right to cancell my order from negrielectronics and order from clove.co.uk and it just feels stupid to be informed about this today.
I cancelled my order from clove and they sent an email for refund... no more ordering from uk or europe.

htc6500uk said:
It will only accept European sim cards. As long as your UK mobile opeator has a roaming arrangement with a US carrier, you will still be able to use the phone but you won't have the option of using a sim card from Verizon, Sprint etc.
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i'm using a sim from https://www.ulyssemobile.com/UK/index.php once i get into the states so i guess i better find out if its going to work.

Such a surprise restriction..... I'm waiting for the bad news from handtec.
I wonder what will happen to the Australian sites selling imported note 3's.

beasty54 said:
i'm using a sim from https://www.ulyssemobile.com/UK/index.php once i get into the states so i guess i better find out if its going to work.
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Will be interested to hear how you get on. Please report back!
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I am waiting for Handtec to fully refund me, already requested for a refund, this is really foolish of Samsung....
Guess I have to wait for australian stock.

Koguchi9 said:
Such a surprise restriction..... I'm waiting for the bad news from handtec.
I wonder what will happen to the Australian sites selling imported note 3's.
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I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before. All we used to have to worry aboit were the radio GSM/3G/4G/LTE bands.
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I think this is an absolute disgrace to be honest, why have an unlocked, tri-band phone that wont work when you go on holiday unless you pay the absolutely disgusting roaming prices that UK networks charge?? I'm so annoyed about this, who the hell are Samsung to decide that i cant put a U.S. sim in a phone I've paid over £600 for

htc6500uk said:
I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before. All we used to have to worry aboit were the radio GSM/3G/4G/LTE bands.
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Logically its all bluff, but im thinking of a way if they could actually do that. I mean restricting the phone not accepting any carrier unless its from europe region that means samsung have full access on europe database or certain information that they could use it on their software.
99% the restriction is being applied from the software side and 99% the pro devs on here will find a way to remove that restriction. But even though ive canceled my order and just called them to confirm my cancellation. Many negative feedbacks will follow up very soon.

I wonder why, I do remember reading an article stating Samsung wanted to stop retailers selling a German device in the UK for example.
For those affected, hopefully something simple could be found to alleviate the problem, like flashing a modem from the respective country perhaps (yeah I know, wishful thinking haha).
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I am really angry about this. This is a BUSINESS phone, so many business users would have a local sim to EACH country they visit!!!
I travel to the USA a lot and always use a local SIM there, which saves thousands! Now I cannot do this?!?!?!
If I cannot unlock this "unlocked/sim-free" phone, then this is certainly the LAST Samsung I will ever buy.

Luckily got mine from O2 didnt get any such warning on box. Requested unlock code will be issed next few days.
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I believe it would just be a software restriction based on the IMSI of the SIM card inserted.

I posted about this awhile back and saw the image on this thread confirmed it. Clove.co.uk were the first to post the announcement about the restriction and it truly is a disaster for Samsung to do such a thing with the Note 3. There currently is no law Europe demanding such action so really does question their reasoning for this.
I have already contacted Samsung and I'm awaiting any comments regarding this.
I will update here and my article http://geektech.ie/index.php/europe...ote-3-reported-to-not-work-outside-of-europe/

My note 3 has just shown up, big sim restriction sticker included. Do you guys think its worth keeping the phone and waiting for a software fix to the restriction or should i send it back? I'm just annoyed about that i'm in the U.S. next week and i wont be able to use the £40 sim card i've ordered because its american. I'll also be in the U.S. again next year so while it may only be a small issue, its still an issue. Worst case scenario is that i get the girlfriend to take her iphone and put the sim card in that so i can tether.

beasty54 said:
My note 3 has just shown up, big sim restriction sticker included. Do you guys think its worth keeping the phone and waiting for a software fix to the restriction or should i send it back? I'm just annoyed about that i'm in the U.S. next week and i wont be able to use the £40 sim card i've ordered because its american. I'll also be in the U.S. again next year so while it may only be a small issue, its still an issue. Worst case scenario is that i get the girlfriend to take her iphone and put the sim card in that so i can tether.
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Id say return it to show them we are not abide by their rules and restrictions that's totally a ripoff.

htc6500uk said:
I daresay there will be frustrated customers. I havr not heard of such a restriction on a "sim-free" "unlocked" device before.
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I'm one of them.

The E.U. wants to eliminate the roaming cost for.all countries across. Maybe has to do with that. Nobody with Note 3 here with a foreign sim card ( non Eu) can try to see what's happening?
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Are all Nexus 5's unlocked?

Might be a lame question, but want to make sure I don't get burned before I buy this. Found a craigslist post for an almost brand new Nexus 5, apparently from Tmobile. Here is the title "GOOGLE NEXUS 5 BY LG T-MOBILE 16GB"
Will I be able to use this Straight Talk? Could this somehow be locked to Tmobile under contract? That is my only concern.
Thanks for any help

Yes. Although you'll need to buy the right one for your country (D820 for North America, D821 for everywhere else)

So far, no Nexus 5's have come locked so it looks like they're all unlocked.
Some older Nexus' did turn up locked though, but so far no one has seen a locked N5 so the assumption that all N5's are unlocked is a safe one.

So I picked up a N5, 16GB black with box, no charger which is no big deal for $260. I get back to work and the phone isn't wiped, lots of d**k pics. I can't believe some people.

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idigg said:
So I picked up a N5, 16GB black with box, no charger which is no big deal for $260. I get back to work and the phone isn't wiped, lots of d**k pics. I can't believe some people.
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Some would say you got your moneys worth. :laugh:

So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?

idigg said:
So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
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make sure u have the right apns?

idigg said:
So I swapped my active Tmobile SIM to the Nexus 5 I just bought and I can't get it registered to Tmobile. Am I screwed or do I just need a new SIM?
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Phone could be blacklisted and stolen which would explain no charger or box.
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expertzero1 said:
make sure u have the right apns?
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This. Make sure you check APN settings otherwise you won't get any data
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Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.

idigg said:
Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
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i was about to get N5 off craigslist lol im glad i seen this ill just pay full price

I have one that is clean and barely used if you are still interested. Woman switched to the iPhone 5s today. Inbox me if you are interested.

idigg said:
Just got off Tmobile Chat and the IMEI is blocked. I'm so f'ing pissed. Tmobile said to contact the owner and have them call Tmobile. I'm so confused and I got majorly ripped off. Good times.
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Do you have any info of the person you bought if from. I always try to get a license plate of their vehicle just in case.
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You are screwed if the guy you bought it from isn't the original owner, that could be the reason why it wasn't wiped.
From what I hear the only way to get it delisted is to have the original owner, the one that reported it stolen call in. If he is the guy that you bought it from have the police make him call T-Mobile or give you a refund.

THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.

pkny said:
THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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I'm pretty sure the north American one has more frequencies. Wikipedia is a good place to look.
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pkny said:
THis is going off topic, but speaking of unlock phones.
What frequency is the Northamerican one missing that makes it can't work over seas?
Google play store shows that is has almost every frequency band needed.
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Most information on Bands for the D820 is taken from google's info, which I'm sure you won't believe but is actually not accurate. The maximum LTE bands the WTR1605L included in the MSM8794 of the snapdragon 800 is 7, which is actually the most any chip today can do - BUT teh google site and many other sites list 9 bands - which isn't quite right.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131705
The D821 does:
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
The D820 is reported to do:
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
However, looking at the box of the N5, you'll only see 7 listed:
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If T-Mobile works well in your area and your not in a contact use straight talk
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Frontier LTE (ATT) Switching Providers

The ATT site says they're currently not unlocking the Gear S3 even if the full purchase price is paid:
"This watch is designed to work on our AT&T network with 4G-LTE Bands 2 and 5 and 3G-UMTS 850/1900MHz. At this time smartwatches are not eligible for unlock to use with other carriers."
and
"Due to the nature of the smartwatch devices, it’s not possible for these to be unlocked. In order to do so, you would need to be able to remove and replace the SIM card. With any smartwatch, the SIM is integrated into the device itself and therefore not removable."
Does anyone know if both of these statements are entirely accurate? I've never used a device with an embedded SIM but I know that devices with a SIM slot can be unlocked regardless of what the carrier states. Will I be able to unlock a Gear S3 Frontier with LTE from ATT to work on other carriers?

I think until people start getting them and messing with them it's tough to answer. Mine is shipping for the 18th. I will have it in the next few days. Not the same, but I did use ADB and unlock the bootloader on my Huawei watch and even installed TWRP and a custom rom. Being this will be an AT&T device I am doubtful things will be unlockable. The e-sim excuse they told you does sound plausible. If you can't change the Sim, I doubt you can change carrier. Time will tell.

wdgolden said:
The ATT site says they're currently not unlocking the Gear S3 even if the full purchase price is paid:
"This watch is designed to work on our AT&T network with 4G-LTE Bands 2 and 5 and 3G-UMTS 850/1900MHz. At this time smartwatches are not eligible for unlock to use with other carriers."
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"Due to the nature of the smartwatch devices, it’s not possible for these to be unlocked. In order to do so, you would need to be able to remove and replace the SIM card. With any smartwatch, the SIM is integrated into the device itself and therefore not removable."
Does anyone know if both of these statements are entirely accurate? I've never used a device with an embedded SIM but I know that devices with a SIM slot can be unlocked regardless of what the carrier states. Will I be able to unlock a Gear S3 Frontier with LTE from ATT to work on other carriers?
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My understanding is that these watches have an esim which is software. With that in mind, I doubt the phone is actually locked in the same way our phones are. The issue might be that they can't erase the network values which are written to the esim. They might be written to ROM which might explain why it would be a bit more difficult to erase. Of course this is just a guess so time will tell.
Swordfish

It's an interesting question. First we'd need to know if the ICCID and SIM number used in carrier versions is customized and unique by carrier. For example, did AT&T provide Samsung with a sequence of SIM numbers to pre-load on all "their" phones? Second do any or all of the carriers have the ability to input foreign (generic Samsung or from another carrier) SIM numbers in to their system? For example, if all AT&T's SIMs start with 88888 can they manually input a SIM provided to them that starts 12345? As far as I know you need an AT&T provided SIM to access their network from any device. I have no clue but if the first item is yes and the second no an AT&T Gear would only work on AT&T's network. It could roam on another network as an AT&T device but couldn't be used natively on that network.
If the above ends up being true a non-carrier LTE Gear bought from Samsung couldn't be registered on AT&T's network. Same thing with an AT&T Gear on T-Mobile's network. What were people's experiences with the LG Urbane LTE and Gear S2 3G? Whatever applied to those devices would seemingly apply here.

BarryH_GEG said:
What were people's experiences with the LG Urbane LTE and Gear S2 3G? Whatever applied to those devices would seemingly apply here.
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The Gear S3 and S2 are significantly different from the LG. The Urbane 2 uses an physical SIM (not an eSIM). Furthermore, it isn't carrier locked. Also, there are folks using it on prepaid service providers like Cricket. I don't think that any of this is true for the S2.

Art gear s3 frontier unlock
I received an approved unlock from AT&T but cannot figure out how to use it as it tells me the sim is not provisioned. The process as explained is to enter #0111*+unlock code+#. Any help would be appreciated.
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Fyi I got unlock for two of them. I simply went to their unlock site and indicated I was not an AT&T customer and filled in the imei, my name and email. It took about 3 days.
Link: https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/request/#/status

DevDoc said:
I received an approved unlock from AT&T but cannot figure out how to use it as it tells me the sim is not provisioned. The process as explained is to enter #0111*+unlock code+#. Any help would be appreciated.
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Fyi I got unlock for two of them. I simply went to their unlock site and indicated I was not an AT&T customer and filled in the imei, my name and email. It took about 3 days.
Link: https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/request/#/status
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Hey, I was looking in to the possibilities of getting an ATT gear s3 and bringing it to T-Mobile. And you seem to have cracked it. I have been looking hours to find something that said it was possible. So did you buy it from att for the full price and then requested unlock? And u are not an att customer right?

May I advise that the two variants (TMo and at&t) do not *exactly* have the same supported bands. That may mean spotty coverage in standalone mode, depending on your network location.
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I to have requested the code from At&t which they have sent me but the instructions state to remove sim before entering code?

vagelis said:
May I advise that the two variants (TMo and at&t) do not *exactly* have the same supported bands. That may mean spotty coverage in standalone mode, depending on your network location.
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Well. I looked into Samsung site for tech specs and both versions -R765T(t Mobile) and R765A (ATT) support same LTE bands -
B2 1900, B5 850.

It's the mix of AWS and LTE bands that is different. Though the frequencies are the same, what type of network they support on these bands is different. And that may lead to having service in an area or not.
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So was anyone able to switch from AT&T to TMO? i requested my unlock code Sunday so it should be here today.

bagsofcole said:
So was anyone able to switch from AT&T to TMO? i requested my unlock code Sunday so it should be here today.
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Any news? Did it work for you?

DevDoc said:
I received an approved unlock from AT&T but cannot figure out how to use it as it tells me the sim is not provisioned. The process as explained is to enter #0111*+unlock code+#. Any help would be appreciated.
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Fyi I got unlock for two of them. I simply went to their unlock site and indicated I was not an AT&T customer and filled in the imei, my name and email. It took about 3 days.
Link: https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/request/#/status
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Yes but, did you actually get it unlocked? That's the question

I have also received an unlock code from AT&T, but haven't figured out yet how to unlock the device. I'm going to call AT&T tomorrow and see how to go about doing it. I'll post back when I do.
Also, any thoughts from anyone on using QPST/similar software to edit the radio? I know we're still a ways away from root, but I'm surprised nobody has done this with the S2 yet (that I know of). Seeing as its a Samsung device, I would imagine that its possible just like with the S4/S5/S6. I'm going to try it and see eventually.

slapshot2286 said:
I have also received an unlock code from AT&T, but haven't figured out yet how to unlock the device. I'm going to call AT&T tomorrow and see how to go about doing it. I'll post back when I do.
Also, any thoughts from anyone on using QPST/similar software to edit the radio? I know we're still a ways away from root, but I'm surprised nobody has done this with the S2 yet (that I know of). Seeing as its a Samsung device, I would imagine that its possible just like with the S4/S5/S6. I'm going to try it and see eventually.
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Pease keep us informed.

SUCCESS!!! I have successfully carrier unlocked the S3 Frontier. I know that simply by posting this people will be freaking out until I post the how-to. I WILL post the how-to when I can recreate the process and get some pics - I don't want to do it until I can verify that its done.

slapshot2286 said:
SUCCESS!!! I have successfully carrier unlocked the S3 Frontier. I know that simply by posting this people will be freaking out until I post the how-to. I WILL post the how-to when I can recreate the process and get some pics - I don't want to do it until I can verify that its done.
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You may have unlocked it but I don't see how your going to activate it on another service or have you done that? My understanding is that the S3 has an esim and its not like a phone where you can put in another providers Sim card and if I understand Sim. Cards and Sim numbers are tied to the carrier so how are you going to transfer a esim number from one carrier to another?

Sirdragonx said:
You may have unlocked it but I don't see how your going to activate it on another service or have you done that? My understanding is that the S3 has an esim and its not like a phone where you can put in another providers Sim card and if I understand Sim. Cards and Sim numbers are tied to the carrier so how are you going to transfer a esim number from one carrier to another?
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S3 doesn't use sim card at least not the good old sim "card" It has an e-sim built in that can be reprogrammed using the pins under the lower band.
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S3 doesn't use sim card at least not the good old sim "card" It has an e-sim built in that can be reprogrammed using the pins under the lower band.
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And who's going to reprogram it? Is there an adapter to hook the pins to? So what your saying is to get a simple card and program that number?

T-Mobile McLaren - Dual Sim Hack Theory

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The One Plus 7 5G McLaren international supports dual SIM. However the T-Mobile version supports 1 sim card, or so they say....
I have a strong suspicion that it actually has the hardware to support dual Sims. Here's how;
The sim card tray on the T-Mobile McLaren only supports 1. However the international version supports 2. The sim card trays appear to be the same size but different design.
I suspect that if you take a dual sided sim card tray like the international version and put that in the McLaren that it will detect both Sims. I think T-Mobile just used a 1 sided Sim card tray instead of a two sided sim tray..
Try it...

jadensmith said:
Read below for full hack details
The One Plus 7 5G McLaren international supports dual SIM. However the T-Mobile version supports 1 sim card, or so they say....
I have a strong suspicion that it actually has the hardware to support dual Sims. Here's how;
The sim card tray on the T-Mobile McLaren only supports 1. However the international version supports 2. The sim card trays appear to be the same size but different design.
I suspect that if you take a dual sided sim card tray like the international version and put that in the McLaren that it will detect both Sims. I think T-Mobile just used a 1 sided Sim card tray instead of a two sided sim tray..
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I can confirm that both SIMs are working.

Awesome thank you for confirming. Did you use the stock sim card tray for dual Sims with the T-Mobile 5G McLaren?
I was only able to look at it briefly and couldn't decern if it supported dual Sims with the stock sim card tray given the limited time I had to look at it.

The op7pro dual SIM tray fits in the T-Mobile 5G just fine. I didn't throw 2 sims in it but that's how I set mine up while testing briefly.

JedixJarf said:
The op7pro dual SIM tray fits in the T-Mobile 5G just fine. I didn't throw 2 sims in it but that's how I set mine up while testing briefly.
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I got dual sim tray on 7t pro 5g mclaren , but second sim doesn't show up.

jacklivehere said:
I got dual sim tray on 7t pro 5g mclaren , but second sim doesn't show up.
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I doubt TMobile allows an IMEI for it

The use idea would be to have dual sims so that you could have multi carrier options. For example you would have T-Mobile as your daily driver , but then have Verizon for when you travel to places like Alaska for example where Verizon is dominate up in that area. So It should work just fine. Just may need a mod or a magisk module to enable dual sim functionality.

Some one point me to the dual sim tray so I can buy one for the phone? Please and Thank you.

Maybe you can flash the dual SIM firmware? Read about that on the forum somewhere already..

I saw someone bought one on Ebay. I dont remember where I saw it though.
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Just off the phone with OnePlus customer support. According to the individual I spoke with, 7T Pro McLarens produced for T-Mobile only support one SIM. The representative stated that even if the phone is unlocked it will still only support one SIM because the phone only has one IMEI.
The question then becomes, is the hardware produced for T-Mobile actually unique with only one IMEI or was it a firmware mod that only exposes one IMEI? My guess is that this is a firmware modification. I suspect that if one were to unlock the 7T Pro McLaren and could then get a hold of the International firmware the T-Mobile hardware would magically discover that it actually has that second IMEI and is capable of supporting two SIMs.
I bought the T-Mobile phone because I thought it could support dual SIMs. I'm extremely disappointed that it does not.

Dual Sim cards work.
Tmobile is just selfish and required OnePlus to provide a single Sim.
That's why when you flash international the slot reads both cards.
This is why I hate flag shipped phones, they limit you and force you down a single path.
They didn't change any hardware just software to make it seem like it wasn't supported.
- OnePlus 7 pro.

Here is the listing I found on Ebay
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RanchHacks said:
Just off the phone with OnePlus customer support. According to the individual I spoke with, 7T Pro McLarens produced for T-Mobile only support one SIM. The representative stated that even if the phone is unlocked it will still only support one SIM because the phone only has one IMEI.
The question then becomes, is the hardware produced for T-Mobile actually unique with only one IMEI or was it a firmware mod that only exposes one IMEI? My guess is that this is a firmware modification. I suspect that if one were to unlock the 7T Pro McLaren and could then get a hold of the International firmware the T-Mobile hardware would magically discover that it actually has that second IMEI and is capable of supporting two SIMs.
I bought the T-Mobile phone because I thought it could support dual SIMs. I'm extremely disappointed that it does not.
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I signed up with T-mobile when the 6T was new. Later on I also purchased the Oneplus 7 Pro also from T-Mobile. The hardware for dual sims is built into each of the phones. I know for a fact bc I bought a dual sim tray for both phones on Amazon. It is true that each of these phones only has the one IMEI number. But I can tell you I was able to successfully convert both phones to dual sim using msm tool. I only followed in other peoples footsteps. Relying on forums such as this and youtube. I currently still use the Oneplus 7 Pro that I converted. I use both T-Mobile and Verizon sim cards. It works flawlessly. I had no intention of getting a 7T Pro Mclaren. However, one fell in my lap that I couldnt pass up. I expect to receive it in the mail tomorrow. If I can't convert it, its not worthing keeping in my eyes.

oneplus.seven.pro said:
I signed up with T-mobile when the 6T was new. Later on I also purchased the Oneplus 7 Pro also from T-Mobile. The hardware for dual sims is built into each of the phones. I know for a fact bc I bought a dual sim tray for both phones on Amazon. It is true that each of these phones only has the one IMEI number. But I can tell you I was able to successfully convert both phones to dual sim using msm tool. I only followed in other peoples footsteps. Relying on forums such as this and youtube. I currently still use the Oneplus 7 Pro that I converted. I use both T-Mobile and Verizon sim cards. It works flawlessly. I had no intention of getting a 7T Pro Mclaren. However, one fell in my lap that I couldnt pass up. I expect to receive it in the mail tomorrow. If I can't convert it, its not worthing keeping in my eyes.
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I did the same, I can use both TMobile and Verizon to make/receive calls/data, can send text message.on Verizon, but cannot receive text messages on Verizon. Do you need to activate the phone at Verizon website to receive text messages?

oh god. it took me forever to figure that out. It comes down to a feature called "cdma-less" provisioning. Once Verizon adds that to your account it will work. A lot of Verizon employees have no clue what that is. So you may have to call multiple times.
I found this article saved in my favorites: https://www.droid-life.com/2018/11/...etails?id=com.argus.sava.networkmode&hl=en_US

This literally just happened to me. (I have the T-Mobile Oneplus 7T Pro 5G Mclaren)
Oneplus emailed me the unlock token today.
I decided to get on Oneplus chat to confirm instructions.
(In the past I converted my T-Mobille OP6T and OP7 PRo to international rom.)
On the chat I got connected to a guy named Steve Gilbert.
I explained to him what I had done in the past converting phones to dual sim.
I told him I knew that there was no internation rom.
But I still want to activate the other sim. He told me to contact T-Mobile.
From here the conversation got pretty heated and he said fine, I'm going to connect with your computer.
FIrst I need name, addresss, phone, imei, build, and proof of purchase.
Here I am feeding him all the info and i told him to give me a sec to send proof of purchase.
Then suddenly the chat disconnected saying we haven't heard from you in a while.,..............
I keep trying to connect to there chat but there system says its down.
So, according to Steve Gilbert. It is possible to activate the second sim. I mean the guy literally said he was going to connect to me and install the rom.

I have a factory unlocked TMobile OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G. I would be willing to try a dual SIM to check if it supports dual SIM. I'll order one soon and report back.

is this thread dead alrdy ? anyone found out a way to use second sim on op7t pro mclaren? i searched everywhere and no clue how to active it, anyone can help ? thanks in advanced

Unlocked on sprint?

Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.

Kidmet said:
Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.
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I believe Sprint merged with T-mobile and all branded phones will be T-mobile but to answer your question, yes you will be able to use tmobile and unlocked version on the sprint network.

I know they merged, but you can't use tmobile phones on a sprint account yet. Which is why i was asking.

Kidmet said:
I know they merged, but you can't use tmobile phones on a sprint account yet. Which is why i was asking.
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From my experience, I've had a tmobile branded note 10 plus on the sprint network for 8 months. This is how I know but you can do your own research.

Kidmet said:
Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.
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I had the same thought as I have Sprint. I pre-ordered the unlocked version.

labnotes said:
From my experience, I've had a tmobile branded note 10 plus on the sprint network for 8 months. This is how I know but you can do your own research.
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Awesome, everything works as it should?

Wondering Same thing
I was wondering the same thng because im on sprint and with the surface duo you need a tmobile sim card to use that phone. On Bestbuy website it says Sprint Version coming soon.

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On Best Buy it shows unlocked can be activated for ATT, Verizon, and Sprint.

I had a Sprint account but ordered the T-Mobile version thinking they were connected -- but they're not yet. After 22 years with Sprint, I decided to move to T-Mobile and now I have 5G service (don't think Sprint itself does yet until they merge the networks) and my Spring phone number transferred in about 10 minutes. I'm not looking back.

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I had the same thought as I have Sprint. I pre-ordered the unlocked version.
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I received my unlocked Z Fold 2 from Samsung, picked up a 4 pack of sim cards from the Sprint store, which I was told included the one I needed. Couldn't activate it online. Called Sprint, gave them my IMEI and was told it could not be activated on the Sprint network. They are sending me another sim card, but couldn't guarantee it would work. Curious how this is possible.

dyoung33 said:
I received my unlocked Z Fold 2 from Samsung, picked up a 4 pack of sim cards from the Sprint store, which I was told included the one I needed. Couldn't activate it online. Called Sprint, gave them my IMEI and was told it could not be activated on the Sprint network. They are sending me another sim card, but couldn't guarantee it would work. Curious how this is possible.
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Oh wow. Sorry to hear that. I received my device yesterday. I went into a Sprint/tmobile store this morning and got a SIM/iccid . Phone was activated by a rep. Everything works including the 5G.

Mingy12 said:
I had the same thought as I have Sprint. I pre-ordered the unlocked version.
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Mingy12 said:
Oh wow. Sorry to hear that. I received my device yesterday. I went into a Sprint/tmobile store this morning and got a SIM/iccid . Phone was activated by a rep. Everything works including the 5G.
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Well, that is encouraging. You ordered your unlocked version from Samsung and the Sprint/tm store was able to get it activated? Thank you for the update...

dyoung33 said:
Well, that is encouraging. You ordered your unlocked version from Samsung and the Sprint/tm store was able to get it activated? Thank you for the update...
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Yup. I walked in and said i needed a SIM. The guy found the right one and activated it on the spot.

Mingy12 said:
Yup. I walked in and said i needed a SIM. The guy found the right one and activated it on the spot.
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Brilliant... Thanks again.

dyoung33 said:
Brilliant... Thanks again.
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Yup. I walked in and said i needed a SIM. The guy found the right one and activated it on the spot.
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I spent an hour at the Sprint/tm store. They tried all 4 sim cards in the pack, called their tech support and still couldn't get it activated on Sprint. When checking the IEMI on the Sprint checker it says clean. They could get it to work with a T-Mobile sim card. Yours is activated on Sprint? Was the sim card used labeled A,B,C or D? Thanks?

dyoung33 said:
I received my unlocked Z Fold 2 from Samsung, picked up a 4 pack of sim cards from the Sprint store, which I was told included the one I needed. Couldn't activate it online. Called Sprint, gave them my IMEI and was told it could not be activated on the Sprint network. They are sending me another sim card, but couldn't guarantee it would work. Curious how this is possible.
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Once when I called and gave them the IMEI number, he said he couldn't find it. Since it's so new -- and even released earlier than expected, he thought it wasn't in the database yet.
He told me he'd look into getting it added and would call me back the next day, but never did. Bye, Sprint.

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Will the unlocked version from Samsung work on the Sprint network?
I see all other carriers supporting, but no Sprint.
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In case anyone is still wondering. Yes. You will need the Sprint sim card ending in 416TQ. It does not however come in the Sprint 4-1 sim kit. Finally, got one from Best Buy after dealing with Sprint directly for a week.

Ordered online from Best Buy. Already had SIM in it. Had to chat with Sprint to get it activated, but works great.