I just read, for rooting unlocked bootloader we flash a specific kernel, then root using doom-lord's method, flash back stock ROM.
So y do that if you go for custom ROM?
I mean, if I flash custom kernel directly, then it will provide me root access?
Or after root, instead of flashing stock ROM and then installing custom ROM can't we just directly flash custom ROM?
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Custom kernel may not give root permission.
Because there for root permission you need superuser app to be installed.Which may be given through custom rom .
So custom rom will give root permission.
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So what it actually do?
I flash a kernel that makes rooting easy,
Then I root it.
So what is it changing?
I mean if I flash cm directly, will it not give me root access? Cos the kernel and ROM are already changed.
If root doesn't modify kernel or ROM, then what does it modify?
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Just don't confuse.
After flashing anything,like may be rom or kernel.using root checker.apk ,check the mobile rooted.If no root,if yes say thank god.
Good luck.
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Its not like that dear,
I just want to know what actually rooting does?
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07et842 said:
I just read, for rooting unlocked bootloader we flash a specific kernel, then root using doom-lord's method, flash back stock ROM.
So y do that if you go for custom ROM?
I mean, if I flash custom kernel directly, then it will provide me root access?
Or after root, instead of flashing stock ROM and then installing custom ROM can't we just directly flash custom ROM?
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07et842 said:
So what it actually do?
I flash a kernel that makes rooting easy,
Then I root it.
So what is it changing?
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In some phones, like the Galaxy S2, the bootloader comes unlocked. Hence, it is possible to root directly by flashing a custom kernel. Rooting can also be done without flashing a custom kernel also.
But in other phones, the bootloader would be locked. To unlock it, we would have to flash a vulnerable kernel first. Then root it. Then restore the previous kernel.
Or sometimes, the bootloader would be unlockable. In which case we would have to go for a SafeStrap recovery and stuff.
07et842 said:
I mean if I flash cm directly, will it not give me root access? Cos the kernel and ROM are already changed.
If root doesn't modify kernel or ROM, then what does it modify?
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As for flashing custom ROMs, you need to be rooted and have a custom recovery. Because the stock recovery doesn't allow flashing non-official ROMs. :good:
07et842 said:
Its not like that dear,
I just want to know what actually rooting does?
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Rooting doesn't modify anything mate. Simply put, rooting means injecting two binaries (su and busybox) into the system folder, and installing a Superuser app. This gives the user administrative access. :good:
07et842 said:
Its not like that dear,
I just want to know what actually rooting does?
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Then ask it directly know.
Root does these below things.
1.Install superuser.apk to system/app.
2.Put su files to lib folder.
This task ,kernel will not dnly costum rom can do.
I think I was up to your point.
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Is it not possible to code a custom ROM so as to then flash it the same way an official ROM is flashed?
Greetings, fellow Oklahoman.
What do you mean "the official way"? RUU? PD98IMG.zip?
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inconceeeivable said:
Greetings, fellow Oklahoman.
What do you mean "the official way"? RUU? PD98IMG.zip?
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Hi. Thanks for the reply. What I mean is how an official ROM is flashed when an upgrade is issued. A notice is given that there is an upgrade and you download and install the upgrade. Can a custom ROM not be installed this way? Rather than having to go through the process of rooting the phone and then flashing one of the available custom ROMs. I would think it would be possible to issue a rooted ROM as an upgrade flash.
Wow. U must be truly a noob. The only way u can flash a custom rom is that u have to be rooted and have s off achieved first. And once u achieve that, you are talking about an over the air update. Which that only can happen from an unrooted totally stock phone. The only thing that comes close to that is an update from rom manager, in which u have to be rooted first before rom manager will work properly, which will download and install a custom rom of your choosing.
In other words, you have to be rooted and s off in order for u to do anything outside of stock
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Bro, very nicely stated.
cavsoldier19d said:
Wow. U must be truly a noob. The only way u can flash a custom rom is that u have to be rooted and have s off achieved first. And once u achieve that, you are talking about an over the air update. Which that only can happen from an unrooted totally stock phone. The only thing that comes close to that is an update from rom manager, in which u have to be rooted first before rom manager will work properly, which will download and install a custom rom of your choosing.
In other words, you have to be rooted and s off in order for u to do anything outside of stock
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cavsoldier19d said:
Wow. U must be truly a noob. The only way u can flash a custom rom is that u have to be rooted and have s off achieved first. And once u achieve that, you are talking about an over the air update. Which that only can happen from an unrooted totally stock phone. The only thing that comes close to that is an update from rom manager, in which u have to be rooted first before rom manager will work properly, which will download and install a custom rom of your choosing.
In other words, you have to be rooted and s off in order for u to do anything outside of stock
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I think the OP was asking if its in anyway possible to flash a custom rom via RUU not OTA. In the same way that ROMS for Samsung devices can be cooked to flash via ODIN as opposed to CWM...
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I have 2 Samsung Infuse 4g. One is 2.2 and the other 2.3.6. I rooted the 2.2 with superoneclick...no problem. But the 2.3.6 will not root, with or without debug on. Could someone please help? And once rooted, how do you unlock, or do I even need to since I switched AT&T sim for Straighttalk sim and it works fine in both. I would appreciate any help. Thanks guys.
There is no way to root the new kernel...you have to flash a rooted kernel
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dman3285 said:
There is no way to root the new kernel...you have to flash a rooted kernel
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How to flash the root kernel without root?
Thanks!
Droidrookie said:
How to flash the root kernel without root?
Thanks!
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Flash with SGS flasher. Now sure if that works without root. If not flash in CWM. Boom. Done.
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If you have cwm you likely have root and if you don't have root(entropy dd kernel has root removed so you can update it) you can root through cwm with an su updater package. if you don't have root you can't use kernel flasher.
you will need to flash the rooting kernel remotely with either Odin or heimdall.
How to root without using PC or flashing kernals ? in my SGS2 there is a zip that I can flash through stock recovery without having to flash unsecure kernal and CWM and then back to stock
with the last official update I've lost the root permission
so is it possible to have root installed through temporarily custom recovery via the stock one ? i.e without having to change anything in the rom except for root ?
thanks in advance .
Use ExynosAbuse.
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asalah0923 said:
How to root without using PC or flashing kernals ? in my SGS2 there is a zip that I can flash through stock recovery without having to flash unsecure kernal and CWM and then back to stock
with the last official update I've lost the root permission
so is it possible to have root installed through temporarily custom recovery via the stock one ? i.e without having to change anything in the rom except for root ?
thanks in advance .
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So... that worked for you?
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
So... that worked for you?
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yes , thanks alot
Just be aware that the new 4.1.2 JB official rom from Germany no longer allows you to use the exynos exploit. It's better to download the rom then install using Mobile ODIN. This allows you to tick ever root and keep root...
Ok, so i have a n8013, and i have rooted with the method here,
http://www.ibtimes.com/root-samsung...jelly-bean-ueucma3-official-firmware-tutorial
I have root, but i don't have clockwork mod, so i need to know how i can get it? i just got this tablet, and have browsed the android development, but i would rather be safe than sorry, so what is the appropriate method to install clockwork mod when you have root already? i am stock 4.1.2
mcluvin1065 said:
Ok, so i have a n8013, and i have rooted with the method here,
http://www.ibtimes.com/root-samsung...jelly-bean-ueucma3-official-firmware-tutorial
I have root, but i don't have clockwork mod, so i need to know how i can get it? i just got this tablet, and have browsed the android development, but i would rather be safe than sorry, so what is the appropriate method to install clockwork mod when you have root already? i am stock 4.1.2
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If youre already rooted all u shoukd need to do is download rom manager from play and itll give u an option to install
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fach1708 said:
If youre already rooted all u shoukd need to do is download rom manager from play and itll give u an option to install
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i tried that, but apparently my device is not supported by rom manager....
mcluvin1065 said:
Ok, so i have a n8013, and i have rooted with the method here,
http://www.ibtimes.com/root-samsung...jelly-bean-ueucma3-official-firmware-tutorial
I have root, but i don't have clockwork mod, so i need to know how i can get it? i just got this tablet, and have browsed the android development, but i would rather be safe than sorry, so what is the appropriate method to install clockwork mod when you have root already? i am stock 4.1.2
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Try this page .......... ClockworkMod Recovery by Zedomax. Download his "HighOnAndroid v1 ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.1.1" and flash with Odin. The Download link is on the page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831173
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Or better yet, use Mobile odin and install using only your tablet....
I'm trying to restore the ability to do OTA updates after I've rooted my device. I;ve tried unrooting but that doesn't solve the problem.
How does the OS check that you have rooted the device in the past? I don't have access to a stock rom (Yet) to check if a firmware flash might restore everything to normal.
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist.
You need to be on stock ROM and stock recovery. Also preferably unrooted and without any system modifications like xposed and such. That's all you need to have to be able to get OTAs.
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Thanks for the reply
I am on stock rom, I also think that i'm on a stock recovery, since I never flashed the recovery. I used Kingo root to root the device, dont know if that flashed a custom recovery. I'm also not aware of any modifications.
Murdakah said:
Thanks for the reply
I am on stock rom, I also think that i'm on a stock recovery, since I never flashed the recovery. I used Kingo root to root the device, dont know if that flashed a custom recovery. I'm also not aware of any modifications.
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May I know what device you have?
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It is a Hisense Infinity H6 (U800).
Murdakah said:
It is a Hisense Infinity H6 (U800).
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The question was actually answered in a previous thread, no?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/hisense-u800-infinity-h6-restore-ota-t3129478
Anyway, XDA Doesn't have a dedicated forum for that device, so either try and boot to recovery and see if it's stock or custom (custom probably is either CWM or TWRP or Philz), or try asking the same thing over at the Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting.
Thank you.
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