Hey there!
I am quite new on this but am getting really tired of my tf700 being sluggish and slow, so I decided to flash a new rom and try to make a NVflash backup first just to be safe. But before doing all this I wanted to make a backup of all my app data which I can do easily with a rooted tablet and a backup app. Problem is, I am on 10.6.1.14.10 right now and I need 10.6.1.14.8 to be able to root it. So I decided that I should root it before making a backup, so here's my question, does a downgrade of stock rom require a clean wipe or wipe data at all? Or is it safe for me to downgrade, install a backup app for app data and then unlock make NVflash-blob and so on?
tl;dr Does downgrading from 10.6.1.14.10->10.6.1.14.8 require a data wipe?
kotidoti said:
Hey there!
I am quite new on this but am getting really tired of my tf700 being sluggish and slow, so I decided to flash a new rom and try to make a NVflash backup first just to be safe. But before doing all this I wanted to make a backup of all my app data which I can do easily with a rooted tablet and a backup app. Problem is, I am on 10.6.1.14.10 right now and I need 10.6.1.14.8 to be able to root it. So I decided that I should root it before making a backup, so here's my question, does a downgrade of stock rom require a clean wipe or wipe data at all? Or is it safe for me to downgrade, install a backup app for app data and then unlock make NVflash-blob and so on?
tl;dr Does downgrading from 10.6.1.14.10->10.6.1.14.8 require a data wipe?
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This is easy: No
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kotidoti said:
Hey there!
I am quite new on this but am getting really tired of my tf700 being sluggish and slow, so I decided to flash a new rom and try to make a NVflash backup first just to be safe. But before doing all this I wanted to make a backup of all my app data which I can do easily with a rooted tablet and a backup app. Problem is, I am on 10.6.1.14.10 right now and I need 10.6.1.14.8 to be able to root it. So I decided that I should root it before making a backup, so here's my question, does a downgrade of stock rom require a clean wipe or wipe data at all? Or is it safe for me to downgrade, install a backup app for app data and then unlock make NVflash-blob and so on?
tl;dr Does downgrading from 10.6.1.14.10->10.6.1.14.8 require a data wipe?
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When you install the full firmware from Asus, it will wipe everything on you sd before installing. In another word, you will loose your personal data if you downgrade your firmware. Backup everything that you need before downgrading. I am very sure that is the case...
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When you install the full firmware from Asus, it will wipe everything on you sd before installing. In another word, you will your personal data if you downgrade your firmware. Backup everything that you need before downgrading. I am very sure that is the case...
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That's why he/she doesn't need to wipe anything - the firmware flash will do it
But you make a very good point there....
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berndblb said:
That's why he/she doesn't need to wipe anything - the firmware flash will do it
But you make a very good point there....
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How are you? I have been busy lately and don't have time to help out new users, ah I don't know much any way, hahaha.. I do remember that you helped me out a lot when I first got here.. greatly appreciated... :good:
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When you install the full firmware from Asus, it will wipe everything on you sd before installing. In another word, you will loose your personal data if you downgrade your firmware. Backup everything that you need before downgrading. I am very sure that is the case...
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Ah okay, thanks. That means that I can't do a backup after downgrading. Does an unlock of the tablet wipe data though? The problem I'm having is that I want to save app data before doing anything and the only way to do that without root that I've found is through helium (aka carbon) but I have yet to make Helium work, I've done a backup but not succeeded to restore the app data that I did a backup on.
Is it possible to unlock and install TWRP and do a backup that way? Or does that involve a wipe in any of the steps too?
kotidoti said:
Ah okay, thanks. That means that I can't do a backup after downgrading. Does an unlock of the tablet wipe data though? The problem I'm having is that I want to save app data before doing anything and the only way to do that without root that I've found is through helium (aka carbon) but I have yet to make Helium work, I've done a backup but not succeeded to restore the app data that I did a backup on.
Is it possible to unlock and install TWRP and do a backup that way? Or does that involve a wipe in any of the steps too?
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Unlock is only touched your bootloader and do not wipe your system or data. You are safe on that case..
Since you are on the latest firmware, you can unlock first and try to learn fastboot to install the latest TWRP. When you have TWRP installed, you can backup your apps from there. Good luck. :fingers-crossed:
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How are you? I have been busy lately and don't have time to help out new users, ah I don't know much any way, hahaha.. I do remember that you helped me out a lot when I first got here.. greatly appreciated... :good:
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Yes, I noticed you have been busy with your ETs. Good work! And don't hide your light - you know plenty! Finally I have time and leisure and to flash 504
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Unlock is only touched your bootloader and do not wipe your system or data. You are safe on that case..
Since you are on the latest firmware, you can unlock first and try to learn fastboot to install the latest TWRP. When you have TWRP installed, you can backup your apps from there. Good luck. :fingers-crossed:
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Thank you so much for this information, I'll use Scotts tool (or something like that?) to install twrp without root and then backup and then flash Cromi-x :victory:
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Unlock is only touched your bootloader and do not wipe your system or data. You are safe on that case..
Since you are on the latest firmware, you can unlock first and try to learn fastboot to install the latest TWRP. When you have TWRP installed, you can backup your apps from there. Good luck. :fingers-crossed:
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Ahem... LMK - what do you mean by backing up apps in TWRP? Making a nandroid? A little different than what he was asking about - no?
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kotidoti said:
Thank you so much for this information, I'll use Scotts tool (or something like that?) to install twrp without root and then backup and then flash Cromi-x :victory:
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I do not know what kind of app data you want to back up.
Without using TiBu (for which you would need root) I got a pretty seamless transition by just copying everything in my "/storage/emulated/0" directory to my PC and copying it back after wiping/formatting the data partition and installing the same apps I had before.
Don't know what firmware you are coming from, but if you are on JB 4.2 already and follow the steps you mentioned in your last post, and you do not format your data partition, your app data should be intact anyway even after flashing CROMi-X.
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Ahem... LMK - what do you mean by backing up apps in TWRP? Making a nandroid? A little different than what he was asking about - no?
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Yes, it works on the same rom but I don't know if you nandroid from stock and restore them on cromi x... Are we talking on the same things? Maybe I misunderstand what is the definition of app data... Any way, if you know a better way, he/she will be more than happy to follow your helps.. That is all know and I will follow this post to learn a better method... thanks..
Use the backup app from ASUS
kotidoti said:
Thank you so much for this information, I'll use Scotts tool (or something like that?) to install twrp without root and then backup and then flash Cromi-x :victory:
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I just did this last week after the OTA update to 10.6.1.14.10 so I had to downgrade to .08.
I made a app+data backup with the stock backup and moved the backup folder to my microSD card, then used another microSD card to do the downgrade, your card must be formatted fat32, after downgrade restore your backup, all apps and data was fine. Then I unlocked and used Scotts tool to install TWRP, goomanager dose not work, and follow the info in "ASUS TF700T unlock and root JB 4.2.1 stock" the CromiX install went smooth as silk. There are a lot of choices to make during the install I chose the default the first time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
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Hi Folks.
Ok here is my situation, I have a rooted and unlocked TF700.
I flashed Zeus 4 and all worked well, then flashed (after full wipe) PARANOIDANDROID 2.15 and again everything was great,
Yesterday I flashed Baked Bean 4 (again after a full wipe) and apart from some SD issues all seemed ok,
I then decided to restore my TWRP backup of Zeus as I needed to use my 64gig msd card.
After a full wipe and restore Zeus started up but the dpi was messed up (160) I think (way small)
I was seeing loads of FC's and file manager showed my internal SD as being empty. Rebooted to recovery and tried the "Format Data" option
It failed right away with this message "E: Unable to format data."
I have tried flashing the stock .26 rom via TWRP and I have the same issue, dpi set to 160 and internal sd not mounted.
It seems my Internal sd is corrupt
What is the procedure to reformat it via ADB or fastboot? (I have searched but the results I found relate to other devices and I dont want to simply follow instructions that might cause further harm to my TF700)
I have followed the NVflash brick proof procedure and have all relevant files backed up (I did this before flashing the last 2 roms)
Please can some one point me in the right direction
Thanks a lot
Jules
I always wipe cache, system, internal, davic and then do a factory reset.
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When you said that you tried to flash the stock .26 you meant installing not restoring a backup, right? What rom you have on your device right now?
Pretoriano80 said:
When you said that you tried to flash the stock .26 you meant installing not restoring a backup, right. What rom you have on your device right now?
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Yip extracted the zip from the zip file and copied it to my ext sd and flashed it via TWRP
I have an unusable Zeus4,
Im about to try a full wipe again and then flash .26 again
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After flashing .26 and selecting reboot I get the "No OS installed! Are you sure you wish to reboot?" message
Looks like the system partition is corrupted, but i'm not sure. I think you should come here on IRC and maybe someone with more experience will help you - - http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=asus-transformer
Thanks so much Pretoriano80!
With his help on IRC I was able to solve the problem,
In the end I had to return to complete stock, It seems CM10 caused some problems,
You are a a legend dude Thanks!!
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ZaJules said:
Thanks so much Pretoriano80!
With his help on IRC I was able to solve the problem,
In the end I had to return to complete stock, It seems CM10 caused some problems,
You are a a legend dude Thanks!!
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This same thing happened to me with my Prime when I was getting ready to send it off for RMA because of a broken HDMI port. Since I was unlocked I was advised to restore to stock before sending it in. However, before I got the chance to do that I started getting the "E: Unable to format data." error that you were. I ended up erasing all partitions from fastboot and putting a note in the box that it wouldn't boot after an OTA. I managed to get away with it and wasn't charged for fixing it
For future reference it would be really helpful to know how you fixed this. Did you do something like what is in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803343.
Did you ever figure out how CM10 messed up your Infinity? I was running CM9 on my Prime when I got this error. Thanks!
It's hard to say if it was CM10 (or any other custom rom) or TWRP to mess the things up but we managed to get back to stock by replacing the twrp with CWM recovery and installing a modified .30 update package. Was a tricky one but we didn't had to mess with the partitions and that's good.
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It's hard to say if it was CM10 (or any other custom rom) or TWRP to mess the things up but we managed to get back to stock by replacing the twrp with CWM recovery and installing a modified .30 update package. Was a tricky one but we didn't had to mess with the partitions and that's good.
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Why did you switch to CWM? Do you have any thoughts on the advantages and disadvantages of TWRP vs CWM?
paddycr said:
Why did you switch to CWM? Do you have any thoughts on the advantages and disadvantages of TWRP vs CWM?
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Switched to CWM just to make sure it wasn't twrp recovery that somehow was failing to flash the partitions correctly. Tbh so far both do their job and both share the same limitation so far, meaning both fail to restore the boot partition (kernel) so in order to restore successfully (from a nandroid backup) you need to flash the right kernel after restoring is done. Otherwise i like TWRP better and never had issues with it, but i miss the advanced option from CWM, the one that let you format each partition individually.
Pretoriano80 said:
Switched to CWM just to make sure it wasn't twrp recovery that somehow was failing to flash the partitions correctly. Tbh so far both do their job and both share the same limitation so far, meaning both fail to restore the boot partition (kernel) so in order to restore successfully (from a nandroid backup) you need to flash the right kernel after restoring is done. Otherwise i like TWRP better and never had issues with it, but i miss the advanced option from CWM, the one that let you format each partition individually.
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I'm not certain what you're referring to here. I've restored many times from different TWRP backups (for each custom rom that successfully boots and is half-decent, I make and keep a backup in case I want to jump around and try new things) and I've never had any issues. I am still on the .26 firmware update because I plan to do the nvflash thing. Are you saying that between Zeus v4 (ICS) and various Jelly Bean roms I've been on the same kernel? I gues I just haven't checked.
Anyway, I really love the TWRP recovery and use it with Xoom and Nexus 7 as well. It's so easy to use and always has been reliable.
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I'm not certain what you're referring to here. I've restored many times from different TWRP backups (for each custom rom that successfully boots and is half-decent, I make and keep a backup in case I want to jump around and try new things) and I've never had any issues. I am still on the .26 firmware update because I plan to do the nvflash thing. Are you saying that between Zeus v4 (ICS) and various Jelly Bean roms I've been on the same kernel? I gues I just haven't checked.
Anyway, I really love the TWRP recovery and use it with Xoom and Nexus 7 as well. It's so easy to use and always has been reliable.
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For me moving between various roms by just restoring a backup never worked like it should. Let's say i'm on CM10 and i want to restore from a stock rom backup, the restore process is done, after reboot the device gets stuck to the first Asus screen and will stay there. Now if i get back to recovery and flash an update. zip containing the stock kernel the device will boot just fine, so definitely the boot image doesn't get restored in my case (with . 26 bootloader ).
Edit: @okantomi: You are using the internal storage or a MicroSD for backup / restoring? I'm really curious how this could work for some and not work for others, i mean same device, same recovery, same bootloader version...
Pretoriano80 said:
For me moving between various roms by just restoring a backup never worked like it should. Let's say i'm on CM10 and i want to restore from a stock rom backup, the restore process is done, after reboot the device gets stuck to the first Asus screen and will stay there. Now if i get back to recovery and flash an update. zip containing the stock kernel the device will boot just fine, so definitely the boot image doesn't get restored in my case (with . 26 bootloader ).
Edit: @okantomi: You are using the internal storage or a MicroSD for backup / restoring? I'm really curious how this could work for some and not work for others, i mean same device, same recovery, same bootloader version...
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Ok, I only flash a new zip from the internal storage...made myself a "Flashworthy" folder which I keep stocked with newest versions of roms/gapps. I save my TWRP backups to my external microsdcard, as well as my TiBu backups. I have never had a problem restoring from TWRP this way, honestly.
okantomi said:
Ok, I only flash a new zip from the internal storage...made myself a "Flashworthy" folder which I keep stocked with newest versions of roms/gapps. I save my TWRP backups to my external microsdcard, as well as my TiBu backups. I have never had a problem restoring from TWRP this way, honestly.
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Well, in this case i really have no clue why restoring works for some users but not for all.Dees_Troy, the dev behind Twrp recovery told me that .26 bootloader is to blame for the recovery failing to restore the boot partition, but looks like you have that bootloader version and restoring works good for you... interesting.
Pretoriano80 said:
Well, in this case i really have no clue why restoring works for some users but not for all.Dees_Troy, the dev behind Twrp recovery told me that .26 bootloader is to blame for the recovery failing to restore the boot partition, but looks like you have that bootloader version and restoring works good for you... interesting.
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It is a mystery. Is there any other info that might be relevant to see why the difference in results? I ask because I would like to understand this device better, as well as potentially help others.
okantomi said:
It is a mystery. Is there any other info that might be relevant to see why the difference in results? I ask because I would like to understand this device better, as well as potentially help others.
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I don't know, maybe the twrp version and the backup options, like if you are using compression or not, which partitions do you backup (boot, system, data, recovery, cache)...
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I don't know, maybe the twrp version and the backup options, like if you are using compression or not, which partitions do you backup (boot, system, data, recovery, cache)...
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I'm using TWRP 2.2.2.1, I back up boot, system and data only, and I don't use compression.
Hello, long time lurker here. Thinking about finally making the plunge to a custom rom.
I have a lot of apps with my saved data, high scores, etc.
Wondering if it's possible to unlock, root, install custom rom and retain my apps and their data.
Will Titanium Backup do this, or should I suck it up and reinstall everything?
Titanium is perfect for such things. But TB requires root. If you are on the 2.20 firmware, I'm not sure whether the new temp root exploit will allow you to run TB or not. If not, your data will be wiped out when you unlock the bootloader (before permanent root is achieved).
unlock --> root --> backup all apps including app data using tit backup batch mode --> flash custom ROM --> restore apps including app data using tit backup batch restore.. jsut ensure that you are not trying to backup & restore /system apps
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Titanium is perfect for such things. But TB requires root. If you are on the 2.20 firmware, I'm not sure whether the new temp root exploit will allow you to run TB or not. If not, your data will be wiped out when you unlock the bootloader (before permanent root is achieved).
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Telus version, so don't need to exploit, but I know unlocking the bootloader will factory reset my device, trying to see if there's a way to do this before I unlock
kancherlapraneeth said:
unlock --> root --> backup all apps including app data using tit backup batch mode --> flash custom ROM --> restore apps including app data using tit backup batch restore.. jsut ensure that you are not trying to backup & restore /system apps
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That won't work. Unlocking the bootloader wipes data.
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That won't work. Unlocking the bootloader wipes data.
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thanks for correcting
Oh wait, forgot about this little gem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671746
Follow that procedure, unlock the bootloader, restore data.
Now the trick is, on your version to get root you need to flash a rooted ROM (if I understand correctly). If you flash a stock rooted ROM, you may be able to do so without wiping data (which is normally recommended). Then you can run Titanium, and backup your app data.
Wiping data (factory reset) is normally advised when flashing ROMs. But if you flash a stock rooted ROM, it might be similar enough that it won't cause any serious bugs. Enough to get Titanium running. Then wipe, and flash a ROM of your choice.
That's just my thought anyway. Not 100% on any of that, since I didn't have to do it this way, personally.
Thanks! That sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.
Does it matter which stock rooted rom I use?
Such as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920424
So I would unlock, install recovery, install this rom. run titanium backup. install custom rom, restore with titanium backup?
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Telus version, so don't need to exploit, but I know unlocking the bootloader will factory reset my device, trying to see if there's a way to do this before I unlock
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I guess not a nandroid data backup. Since it requires twrp or cwm but u can use apps for backup that dont require root. Such as share cloud backup. Backup all apps and transfer them to pc the do what u have 2 do and then use apk manager app to batch install the apk files. But this backs up apps only not data not files.
Hi guys, I have rooted and unlocked my TF700 few days ago. Currently with CWM recovery and CM10.1. I would like to change to Cromi-X for its faster performance. I am pretty new to this kind of stuff. From the Cromi-x TF700 developer page, it says TF700 user should be on stock 4.2.1. before flashing this ROM. Is there other way of doing it? What are the instructions to do so? Factory reset using custom recovery? install TWRP and bootloader? Step-by-Step instructions would be the best! Thank you so much! Would really appreciate it.:laugh::laugh:
FIY: I was on stock 4.2.1 before flashing CM10.1.
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Hi guys, I have rooted and unlocked my TF700 few days ago. Currently with CWM recovery and CM10.1. I would like to change to Cromi-X for its faster performance. I am pretty new to this kind of stuff. From the Cromi-x TF700 developer page, it says TF700 user should be on stock 4.2.1. before flashing this ROM. Is there other way of doing it? What are the instructions to do so? Factory reset using custom recovery? install TWRP and bootloader? Step-by-Step instructions would be the best! Thank you so much! Would really appreciate it.:laugh::laugh:
FIY: I was on stock 4.2.1 before flashing CM10.1.
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This post has all the information and instructions that you need and all the Cromi X downloads... Good luck and have fun..
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223492
Thanks a lot for your swift reply LetMeKnow! Yea that was the forum I was talking about. Just that I am not quite sure about few things in the OP.
From the OP:
"STEP 2 TF700 ONLY – I have a custom recovery installed but not the latest bootloader
If you are currently unlocked and on a JB 4.1.1/10.4.4.25 based custom rom like CleanROM Inheritance 3.x and have a custom recovery installed:
I recommend you install the appropriate Bootloader Recovery package below as the safest route to upgrade to CROMi-X. This can be flashed from any custom recovery "
1) I am on 4.2.1, can I still proceed with the same method?
2) So I am supposed to flash TWRP and bootloader using the CWM recovery that I already have? Or should I use the fastboot command method? Just to make sure as I don't wanna brick my tablet.
Appreciate your help! :good::good::good:
LexGoh said:
Thanks a lot for your swift reply LetMeKnow! Yea that was the forum I was talking about. Just that I am not quite sure about few things in the OP.
From the OP:
"STEP 2 TF700 ONLY – I have a custom recovery installed but not the latest bootloader
If you are currently unlocked and on a JB 4.1.1/10.4.4.25 based custom rom like CleanROM Inheritance 3.x and have a custom recovery installed:
I recommend you install the appropriate Bootloader Recovery package below as the safest route to upgrade to CROMi-X. This can be flashed from any custom recovery "
1) I am on 4.2.1, can I still proceed with the same method?
2) So I am supposed to flash TWRP and bootloader using the CWM recovery that I already have? Or should I use the fastboot command method? Just to make sure as I don't wanna brick my tablet.
Appreciate your help! :good::good::good:
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I would love to help you further but I never use CWM. Therefore, it would be safe if someone has a better knowledge to help you out. _that, Sbdags, and others will have a good answer for you. They are very active in helping others users like you and me..
You can flash latest Cromix on top of CM10.1 even if you are using CWM (btw using CWM for CM roms is not mandatory,TWRP will work fine too).
I do recommend a clean install ( factory restore before flashing Cromi) but you could also try a "dirty" flash ( so your apps are not wiped) first and see if all works fine.
On a side note you should also try the CM10.2 experimental build,it's working nice here .
peace estreew
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You can flash latest Cromix on top of CM10.1 even if you are using CWM (btw using CWM for CM roms is not mandatory,TWRP will work fine too).
I do recommend a clean install ( factory restore before flashing Cromi) but you could also try a "dirty" flash ( so your apps are not wiped) first and see if all works fine.
On a side note you should also try the CM10.2 experimental build,it's working nice here .
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Thank you so much Pretoriano! Would carefully proceed to flash it tonight, hopefully nothing will go wrong. In your opinion, do you think Cromi-X has better performance(in terms of speed and smoothness) over CM? Because I still find lags and what not in CM10.1.
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Thank you so much Pretoriano! Would carefully proceed to flash it tonight, hopefully nothing will go wrong. In your opinion, do you think Cromi-X has better performance(in terms of speed and smoothness) over CM? Because I still find lags and what not in CM10.1.
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Not using Cromi-X so i can't tell but you should try different roms yourself, trust me on that.But don't expect miracles from any rom,this device it is what it is.sometimes works nice then at some point starts to lag,self-reboot and act like crap.Latest CM10.2 looks good so far but the best way to prove it is to install all your usual apps and use it for some time,then decide if it's a keeper.
As for Cromi-X or other roms,i don't know if Journaling is disabled by default,but if it is keep in mind that is just a workaroud which trade stability for performance.
Personally i've build a custom rom for myself based on Asus firmware,removed some bloatware,patched to have the advanced power menu,used some init.d scripts wich you can find here on XDA and honestly performs just fine,no dangerous tweaks applied or task manager.
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Thank you so much Pretoriano! Would carefully proceed to flash it tonight, hopefully nothing will go wrong. In your opinion, do you think Cromi-X has better performance(in terms of speed and smoothness) over CM? Because I still find lags and what not in CM10.1.
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You definitely should switch to TWRP recovery. It's working fine with both CM and stock based roms like CROMi-X, whereas there have been issues if you use CWM with stock based roms.
You do have to do a clean install if you go from CM to CROMi-X.
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You definitely should switch to TWRP recovery. It's working fine with both CM and stock based roms like CROMi-X, whereas there have been issues if you use CWM with stock based roms.
You do have to do a clean install if you go from CM to CROMi-X.
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Appreciate your help berndblb! By the way do I have to do clean install using "backup&reset" or wipe/factory reset using custom recovery?
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Appreciate your help berndblb! By the way do I have to do clean install using "backup&reset" or wipe/factory reset using custom recovery?
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You always should do a nandroid backup of your old setup/rom before you flash anything new.
In TWRP 'Factory Reset' is the default selection under the 'Wipe' menu. It will wipe your /data partition except for your /data/media/ folder where your personal stuff lives.
Naturally, you should have a backup of all your stuff anyway!
Data nor backed up is data not yet lost
Edit: To literally answer your question: A clean install is wiping data and system partitions as well as cache and Dalvik. If you flash CROMi-X (and I believe that's true for most custom roms), the system partition will get formatted before the new rom installation as part of the installation process. Wiping Cache and Dalvik is the default when installing CROMi-X, so you don't need to do that either. Just factory reset before flashing and you'll be good.
If you want to go squeaky clean, you would do a format data in TWRP (under the Wipe > Advanced menu). But that will erase your entire data partition, so you definitely have to have everything you care about backed up.
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berndblb said:
You always should do a nandroid backup of your old setup/rom before you flash anything new.
In TWRP 'Factory Reset' is the default selection under the 'Wipe' menu. It will wipe your /data partition except for your /data/media/ folder where your personal stuff lives.
Naturally, you should have a backup of all your stuff anyway!
Data nor backed up is data not yet lost
Edit: To literally answer your question: A clean install is wiping data and system partitions as well as cache and Dalvik. If you flash CROMi-X (and I believe that's true for most custom roms), the system partition will get formatted before the new rom installation as part of the installation process. Wiping Cache and Dalvik is the default when installing CROMi-X, so you don't need to do that either. Just factory reset before flashing and you'll be good.
If you want to go squeaky clean, you would do a format data in TWRP (under the Wipe > Advanced menu). But that will erase your entire data partition, so you definitely have to have everything you care about backed up.
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That's a very clear explanation from you!:good::good: Certainly helps me a lot. One last question berndblb, can I flash TWRP over my current CWM directly(worry that it will cause or brick or whatsoever) before doing a factory reset? Or it is advisable to do a factory reset using CWM only then I flash the TWRP? Sorry if my question sounds dumb, because I am really new to all these stuff.
LexGoh said:
That's a very clear explanation from you!:good::good: Certainly helps me a lot. One last question berndblb, can I flash TWRP over my current CWM directly(worry that it will cause or brick or whatsoever) before doing a factory reset? Or it is advisable to do a factory reset using CWM only then I flash the TWRP? Sorry if my question sounds dumb, because I am really new to all these stuff.
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Your first step should be to replace the CWM recovery. A factory reset only affects your data partition - no need to do that in CWM.
The main thing is that you have at all times a compatible bootloader/recovery combination. If you have the 10.6.1.14.4 or 10.6.1.14.8 bootloader, you can download GooManager, tap the 3 dots in the upper right corner and select "Install Open Recovery Script". It will install the latest TWRP version 2.6 over CWM. I am not sure if your CM version is compatible with TWRP 2.6 - so better check on that.
But once you have TWRP installed, you can proceed as described earlier.
Your questions are absolutely fine. Read everything you can find 5 times, ask 3 times, flash once - if and when you're sure! :Good:
One more thing: If you decide you do a factory reset or format data in TWRP, make sure you have the rom you want to flash (and I highly recommend CROMi-X 4.7) on your external microSD - it's safer that way. You may have to navigate to your microSD in TWRP under the 'Install' menu. By default TWRP shows your internal SD. Just tap that field and navigate to your external, select the CROMi-X zip and flash it.
The microSD has to be FAT32. It you never changed the factory format, you're good.
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You can flash twrp on top of cwm no probs. I do it all the time. CROMi-X does work fine on cwm 6.0.3.0+
You will 100% need to wipe data (factory wipe good enough) before flashing CROMi-X. Good luck.
LexGoh said:
That's a very clear explanation from you!:good::good: Certainly helps me a lot. One last question berndblb, can I flash TWRP over my current CWM directly(worry that it will cause or brick or whatsoever) before doing a factory reset? Or it is advisable to do a factory reset using CWM only then I flash the TWRP? Sorry if my question sounds dumb, because I am really new to all these stuff.
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You are a lucky person. All the people are trying to help you out are all experts around here. You will be safe if you are following their advices. You will be happy with Cromi X. Cromi X is running very smooth IMO... :good:
LetMeKnow said:
You are a lucky person. All the people are trying to help you out are all experts around here. You will be safe if you are following their advices. You will be happy with Cromi X. Cromi X is running very smooth IMO... :good:
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You make me blush...
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berndblb said:
Your first step should be to replace the CWM recovery. A factory reset only affects your data partition - no need to do that in CWM.
The main thing is that you have at all times a compatible bootloader/recovery combination. If you have the 10.6.1.14.4 or 10.6.1.14.8 bootloader, you can download GooManager, tap the 3 dots in the upper right corner and select "Install Open Recovery Script". It will install the latest TWRP version 2.6 over CWM. I am not sure if your CM version is compatible with TWRP 2.6 - so better check on that.
But once you have TWRP installed, you can proceed as described earlier.
Your questions are absolutely fine. Read everything you can find 5 times, ask 3 times, flash once - if and when you're sure! :Good:
One more thing: If you decide you do a factory reset or format data in TWRP, make sure you have the rom you want to flash (and I highly recommend CROMi-X 4.7) on your external microSD - it's safer that way. You may have to navigate to your microSD in TWRP under the 'Install' menu. By default TWRP shows your internal SD. Just tap that field and navigate to your external, select the CROMi-X zip and flash it.
The microSD has to be FAT32. It you never changed the factory format, you're good.
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sbdags said:
You can flash twrp on top of cwm no probs. I do it all the time. CROMi-X does work fine on cwm 6.0.3.0+
You will 100% need to wipe data (factory wipe good enough) before flashing CROMi-X. Good luck.
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Thanks to all experts that help me a lot!!!:good::good::good: Really really appreciate it! :laugh::laugh:
Earlier, I was on the Elix-R ROM. I was going to upgrade to the newest version of it and made a nandroid backup but forgot to make a TiBu of all my apps. Would it be safe and possible for me to restore all of my app data from the nandroid backup by doing an advanced restore of my data?
you were upgrading the rom that you were using.. why would you wipe data?? if you are upgrading a rom, you never have to wipe anything. all you do is flash the updated rom(and gapps) on top of what youre running without wiping anything.
simms22 said:
you were upgrading the rom that you were using.. why would you wipe data?? if you are upgrading a rom, you never have to wipe anything. all you do is flash the updated rom(and gapps) on top of what youre running without wiping anything.
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I always prefer doing clean flashes of all of the ROMs I run.
absoluterebirth said:
I always prefer doing clean flashes of all of the ROMs I run.
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cool, your choice it is
i dont remember the last time i actually wiped my n5, if i ever did. lol
simms22 said:
cool, your choice it is
i dont remember the last time i actually wiped my n5, if i ever did. lol
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also, another question: should making a TiBu and then erasing the system to flash a new ROM affect the backup of apps or no?
You could practice restoring your nandroid backup, then 'dirty' flashing the ROM upgrade straight over the top.
Once you get used to it, dirty flashing isn't so bad. Saves a ton of time. Plus you have the nandroid just in case .
In answer to your query though, you can extract apps and app data using the appropriately named Nandroid Manager. I used it before on a now sold Nexus 7 when it decided to not boot up but could get to recovery and make a backup.
absoluterebirth said:
Earlier, I was on the Elix-R ROM. I was going to upgrade to the newest version of it and made a nandroid backup but forgot to make a TiBu of all my apps. Would it be safe and possible for me to restore all of my app data from the nandroid backup by doing an advanced restore of my data?
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Yes. Its the same as having never wiped in the first place
absoluterebirth said:
also, another question: should making a TiBu and then erasing the system to flash a new ROM affect the backup of apps or no?
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Eh? I don't understand the problem
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Hi, ive just rooted my phone and want to install xposed framework. I dont have a custom recovery so the question is can i flash xposed framework using flashfire without losing anything? Any answered would be appriciated.
I would say it's risky
Hi-TechUp said:
I would say it's risky
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I thought so too, do you know if its possible to flash a custom recovery, twrp without loosing data?
coios84 said:
I thought so too, do you know if its possible to flash a custom recovery, twrp without loosing data?
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No, twrp needs a wipe, but since you have root you can backup everything anyway.
Why not try flashfire anyway, i though that was its purpose.
peachpuff said:
No, twrp needs a wipe, but since you have root you can backup everything anyway.
Why not try flashfire anyway, i though that was its purpose.
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Alright i actually have everything backed up with titanium backup but i have not tried to restore from backup after a wipe and im not sure that if my phone is going to be in exactly the same state as it was before, with sms phone contacts apps etc.
The FlashFire thing is because im worried that i will brick my phone.!
If you have root you can backup with Titanium. Make sure that you have your SDCARD set as your backup location in preferences.
Once you do your Titanium backup to your SD card, then do the TWRP install.
Then flash ROM, etc.
Then restore from Titanium.
coios84 said:
Alright i actually have everything backed up with titanium backup but i have not tried to restore from backup after a wipe and im not sure that if my phone is going to be in exactly the same state as it was before, with sms phone contacts apps etc.
The FlashFire thing is because im worried that i will brick my phone.!
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And also do a samsung cloud backup so it can restore the apps and homescreen and all. After that you can restore your app data with TB