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One S vs SIII

'sup folks.
This thread is dedicated to my lovely wife who just couldn't make up her mind between One S ("kinda looks nice"), Galaxy SIII ("oh nice screen"), and iPhone5 ("when is it coming out? my 3GS feels old"). And between all 3 of them, "can i unlock them?" (in Canada, phones are locked to their ISP, so if I buy it from, say, Rogers, I can't just pop another SIM card from, say, Bell.)
So what do u guys think?
Personally, I'm an Android guy through and through. Can't fix it? Find a ROM to restore it. Boot another ROM. Root it on day one. So iPhone is out of the question. But I tend to like the look of One S better than SIII. and i had good experience with HTC phones. and SIII costs $100 more.
But she's been using iPhone3GS, love the simplicity, has no idea what 'rooting' is and why its necessary no matter how many times I explained that it's necessary for TiBackup to work... But she plays around with my Nexus7 and loves to stream Korean drama and check Facebook with it. And last time we went to Costco she saw the SIII on display and goes "oh wow, that's a nice screen. does it work like ur Nexus? I kinda want it." So mainly for her, OneS is the cheaper phone, but SIII's screen looks amazing, and she'll only be using her phone for;
a. take photos
b. facebook
c. browse the latest grocery flyers and baby product review
d. stream korean dramas
e. whatsapp
What do you think she should pick up? Or she should just wait for the next iPhone in a month or two?
Any input?

I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.

clubkevin11 said:
I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6

R3dbeaver said:
thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
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the RAZR and the HOS have the same screen, Pentile AMOLED 960x540. But i have seen many people state that the RAZR can have a yellow tint while the colors are more balanced on the HOS

Terminator19 said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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nice. thanks!
so for my wife's sake, i can safely say "its like my RAZR, but the color is abit better".

I'd say 1S for your wife. Main reasons would be the superior camera and slim, sleek form factor. Honestly as much as I love my 1S I want to trade and get an S3, my hands are just too big for this thing!:screwy: but I think this is the best android phone for a woman hands down, it's a sexy device that's for sure.
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1S the best for sure...
To be hones I have not realy used the S3 myself... I have had it in my hands and just new it is way to big... I had the One X to start of with but then changed it for a 1S mainly because of the size... Why would I need a "mobile PHONE" with a quadcore anyway...?!

i just traded my tmobile GS3 for a htc one s plus cash. the GS3 camera sucks at night. i can post photos in a few. my buddy has the evo 4g lte which should be the same camera as the one s. u will see a big difference in quality. also the GS3 was pretty big. i thought it would be cool but i didnt like it cause it was hard to use with just one hand. unless u got some big hands u might like it. plus the one s just feels better in the hand and it feels lighter. oh and HTC Sense 4.0 over Touchwiz anyday lol.
1st Pic: GS3
2nd Pic: Evo 4G LTE
3rd Pic: GS3
4th Pic: Evo 4G LTE

Comprehensive breakdown because I feel like doing one to refresh the mind.
CPU/GPU: Known quantity. One S isn't as fast as the GS3 here (international to international) but the reduced resolution of the One S hides the GPU deficit and the CPUs are basically equal. The US GS3 is same for CPU, slightly slower on GPU because they use the same chipset.
Display: One S is MUCH better in terms of calibration. The white point is accurate and gamma stays constant. Brightness is essentially only limited by hard protection, but you should never need to turn it up to that point. Overall, the One S has the better colors, GS3 has the better pixel density. Pick your poison.
Camera: Stock to stock, GS3 might win because the One S has pretty heavy compression on both video and photos. Once you get an HQ camera mod though, even the very best that the GS3 can produce is not as sharp as the One S. The One S doesn't use flash for focusing though, so that's something the GS3 wins on for low light flash photos.
Software: Sense is nice for people who know it, and looks nice too. Touchwiz is more functional but doesn't look as good. Once you get rid of Sense's 3D effects it runs much better on the home screen. Elsewhere is a matter of ROM optimization, and is basically close enough to not be worth discussing
Battery: The One S CAN be much better for battery life than the GS3, but requires much more management to do so, because even small battery drainers can lead to big loss of battery because the One S has a much smaller battery capacity compared to the GS3. GS3 is generally less efficient because of the very blue display, and the fact that it's a HUGE display. Exynos might draw more power too.
Design: Subjective. If you like metal, I guess the One S wins.
Decisive winners: If you care about expandable storage and removable battery enough to swing your decision, GS3 will probably be the one you want.

I agree with most of the above apart from:
CPU/GPU - The CPU in the one S is the better one overall as the performance per core is quite a bit better than the exynos quad in the GS 3 and at this stage currently with android and apps, it is far more important than having an additional 2 cores. Not only is it better for performance, but it is also better for power efficiency and the amount of heat given out
The GPU in the int. GS 3 is far better. Although as you said there isn't much difference in real world use especially as the S has the inferior res. so games etc. won't be as stressful.
Also the One S does beat the GS 3 in quite a few benchmark tests, the GS 3 only really beats it in tests that use/are dependant on the GPU i.e. quadrant (also quadrant gives quad core a better score just due to it having 2 extra cores)
In real world usage though, there isn't a huge amount of difference, I personally found the one S to be more snappy/instant feel and the GS 3 more smoother overall (there should be very little to virtually no difference when JB comes to both phones officially)
Camera - GS 3 100 times over the one S for 1080P video recording quality (however, the one s 100 times over the GS 3 for stereo audio recording ), however, the camera for photos is more or less equal, some shots look better on the GS 3 and likewise for the S, however, the camera UI and features are far better on the S
Battery - The battery life is better on the S overall (personally I didn't do much tweaking to it, just turned stuff like auto brightness off, wifi max performance off etc.
However, with the GS 3 you can have the option to use spares and an extended battery at some point.......due to it being removable
Whilst the GS 3 does have a bigger battery, it needs it due to the bigger and 720P screen as well as a more power hungry CPU
Imagine how long the S would last with one full charge on a 2100mAh battery!
And yup, exactly, the extra storage of the GS 3 and removable battery are 2 of the main deciding factors IMO.
Honestly think your wife will prefer the one S due to size, sense (you really don't need to faff about with rooting and replacing every app with 3rd party ones, sense apps are great and they also look "pretty" )

very informative, guys! thanks!
i think 1S wins for her due to smaller size and (arguably) better/faster camera. she's quite a petite lady. and i dont think she cares about battery replacement or storage. haha, storage... all the years she owns 3G and 3GS, she downloaded a total of probably 10 apps. 7 she removed on the first day. (i know she kept the Economist, Whatsapp, and BBC News....)
but if she does wants the bigger "nicer" (in her own words) screen, then all bets are off... i'll talk to her again tonight

[Q] Why would you choose an HTC One S over the Samsung Galaxy S3?

Just a simple question, why would choose an HTC One S over the Samsung Galaxy S3? I'm considering buying one of those, but i don't know which aspect of the One S is better than the S3..

Because it fits in the hand like no other phone,it's not too big and not too small,simply perfect,the phone is quite fast
And if u are buying a One S,buy it with the S4 chip
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Far far far far nicer looking and way better build quality and of course perceived quality, the looks of the gs3 is the main thing that puts me of it
Better chipset (s4)
IMO sense is miles better for the stock apps, ui, colour scheme
Better battery life
The camera is better overall in terms of features/options and camera ui which make photography far better

If we're talking stock, Sense >>>> Touchwiz. Touchwiz feels so sluggish.
On the One S, I keep going back to stock from custom roms because I love how it feels and the battery life is great.
Only benefit of the SGS3 IMO is NFC.

Build quality, build quality and erm.. build quality.

Fluent usage! The GS3 is not running as smooth as Sense on my HOS!
Sent by baked One S

...and even more build quality

PcFish said:
If we're talking stock, Sense >>>> Touchwiz. Touchwiz feels so sluggish.
On the One S, I keep going back to stock from custom roms because I love how it feels and the battery life is great.
Only benefit of the SGS3 IMO is NFC.
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if i'm not wrong, the battery life in S3 is actually better than the One S. also, it does have the option to expand memory (up to 64GB). other than that i'd lean towards the One S.

Build quality and form factor. High end specs in a smaller package.
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dorezen said:
if i'm not wrong, the battery life in S3 is actually better than the One S. also, it does have the option to expand memory (up to 64GB). other than that i'd lean towards the One S.
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You can't really count storage as a plus or a con for either device, it's all personal preference. ~9Gb is plenty for me

dorezen said:
if i'm not wrong, the battery life in S3 is actually better than the One S. also, it does have the option to expand memory (up to 64GB). other than that i'd lean towards the One S.
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There isn't a huge difference in battery life, however, i have yet to see a GS 3 get the same sort of battery life with similar usage to what i and others get, which is about 4-5 hours on screen time spread across 1-3 days with heavy usage especially for browsing (out of the box), which kills battery life on Samoled screen mobiles particularly ours.
Plus it shouldn't be to any surprise anyway as we have the smaller display with a lower res. As well as a far more power efficient CPU chipset.
As said storage is personal preference, 16gb is enough for me, even if I had a 64g SD card i doubt that i would even use 5gb of that on top of the 16gb internal storage.

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Build quality is definitely a big one. Much better build quality with htc. Also gonna have to say size, sgs3 is practically a tablet.

Terminator19 said:
There isn't a huge difference in battery life, however, i have yet to see a GS 3 get the same sort of battery life with similar usage to what i and others get, which is about 4-5 hours on screen time spread across 1-3 days with heavy usage especially for browsing (out of the box), which kills battery life on Samoled screen mobiles particularly ours.
Plus it shouldn't be to any surprise anyway as we have the smaller display with a lower res. As well as a far more power efficient CPU chipset.
As said storage is personal preference, 16gb is enough for me, even if I had a 64g SD card i doubt that i would even use 5gb of that on top of the 16gb internal storage.
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I own a galaxy 3 and I get 5-6 hours screen time easily with just web browsing/text with games I get around 3-4 hours. As for build quality I don't know anybody who doesn't get a case for these higher end phones and most of them like the otter box cases make it feel as sturdy as any phone can be.
As for CPU they both have the same s4 chip if it is the lte variant and if its international it has the the quad core exynos so the better CPU argument kind of confuses me.
Expandable storage is extremely nice too have but that is just my opinion. Touchwiz 5.0 has added way to many features to list but i'd suggest you look it up its worth the watch. The camera also has a plethora of features that HTC phones do not. Also the lte variant comes with 2 gigs of ram which actually makes the CPU run more efficiently because it doesn't have to manage the memory as much.
All in all I would take a good look at the reviews on both phones before you make your decisions. One more thing before I forget is the amount of accessories available for the s3 is pretty nice.
Hope I helped
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pierrenp said:
I'm considering buying one of those, but i don't know which aspect of the One S is better than the S3..
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Go to a shop that has both, and hold them in your hand.

pyroemaniac said:
I own a galaxy 3 and I get 5-6 hours screen time easily with just web browsing/text with games I get around 3-4 hours. As for build quality I don't know anybody who doesn't get a case for these higher end phones and most of them like the otter box cases make it feel as sturdy as any phone can be.
As for CPU they both have the same s4 chip if it is the lte variant and if its international it has the the quad core exynos so the better CPU argument kind of confuses me.
Expandable storage is extremely nice too have but that is just my opinion. Touchwiz 5.0 has added way to many features to list but i'd suggest you look it up its worth the watch. The camera also has a plethora of features that HTC phones do not. Also the lte variant comes with 2 gigs of ram which actually makes the CPU run more efficiently because it doesn't have to manage the memory as much.
All in all I would take a good look at the reviews on both phones before you make your decisions. One more thing before I forget is the amount of accessories available for the s3 is pretty nice.
Hope I helped
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With other usage like mine below?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
Also would need to see screenshots and info. like in the above link.
Quite a lot of people don't actually use cases, I always had the intention of using one with my S (have like 4 cases) especially given that the MAO layer can chip easily, but it so good that I don't use any case at all now unless going out for the night or something, if it was any other phone like the GS 3 then I have no problem using a case) IMO the otterbox cases are butt ugly and add a stupid amount of bulk.
Yeah the USA GS 3 has the S4 chipset although touchwiz seems to be very poorly optimised with it as the XL (using this as it has the same screen res.) easily beats it. The international is quad exynos, but just because it is quad does not mean that it is better, the S4 has way more performance per core (this is far better than having an additional 2 cores as android and apps doesn't fully utilise 2 cores let alone 4, they just aren't optimised in order to properly make use of the cores), a lot more power efficient and better for heat.
Eh? What features is the HTC one series phone lacking compared to the GS 3? The GS 3 has nothing at all really, only the standard stuff like HDR, panorama etc.. With the one series/sense V4 you have a load of effects, depth of field, vintage warm and cold, aqua, distortion amongst a ton of other things as well as slow motion recording, 16.9 aspect ratio amongst other things. The touchwiz software on the note II has a lot of features that are comparable to the one series phones, not the GS 3....
2GB of RAM (only 1GB on the international GS 3 although the LTE variant for the UK has 2GB) is a nice touch but it doesn't really provide much of an advantage, only good thing that it brings is you can switch from a demanding game to the browser, which would have 3 or so tabs open without them reloading. With a chip like the S4, apps launch pretty much immediately anyway.

S III all day.
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Y.G. said:
S III all day.
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No... probably the number one reason people go for the One S over the GS3 (or One X, or Galaxy Nexus) is the form factor, and the build quality. Really, with the feature sets being similar (and unless you want to quibble), the only REAL difference is size, and there are a lot of people that think a 4.7+" phone is too big. I have the Galaxy Nexus, and am lucky enough to have a plan that lets me update my phone yearly with no penalty. I'm getting the One S - the damn thing is speedy, the perfect size and is the most comfortable phone I've ever picked up.

Just ordered a HTC One S to replace my S3. I always get the latest phones and I bought the S3 to replace my Galaxy Nexus that was stolen. I almost immediately regretted buying the S3 because of its size. I'm a big guy, have big hands but nevertheless, the S3 is just too big. 4,3 Inch is more than enough for me. A few weeks ago I helped buying a friend a new phone and he wanted to stick to HTC coming from an old HTC Desire. The moment I took the phone in my hands it instantly fell in its place and I was amazed by the difference in build quality. It's a HUGE difference! So, tomorrow my S3 will go online and I cannot wait to lay my hands on my new One S.
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Terminator19 said:
With other usage like mine below?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
Also would need to see screenshots and info. like in the above link.
Quite a lot of people don't actually use cases, I always had the intention of using one with my S (have like 4 cases) especially given that the MAO layer can chip easily, but it so good that I don't use any case at all now unless going out for the night or something, if it was any other phone like the GS 3 then I have no problem using a case) IMO the otterbox cases are butt ugly and add a stupid amount of bulk.
Yeah the USA GS 3 has the S4 chipset although touchwiz seems to be very poorly optimised with it as the XL (using this as it has the same screen res.) easily beats it. The international is quad exynos, but just because it is quad does not mean that it is better, the S4 has way more performance per core (this is far better than having an additional 2 cores as android and apps doesn't fully utilise 2 cores let alone 4, they just aren't optimised in order to properly make use of the cores), a lot more power efficient and better for heat.
Eh? What features is the HTC one series phone lacking compared to the GS 3? The GS 3 has nothing at all really, only the standard stuff like HDR, panorama etc.. With the one series/sense V4 you have a load of effects, depth of field, vintage warm and cold, aqua, distortion amongst a ton of other things as well as slow motion recording, 16.9 aspect ratio amongst other things. The touchwiz software on the note II has a lot of features that are comparable to the one series phones, not the GS 3....
2GB of RAM (only 1GB on the international GS 3 although the LTE variant for the UK has 2GB) is a nice touch but it doesn't really provide much of an advantage, only good thing that it brings is you can switch from a demanding game to the browser, which would have 3 or so tabs open without them reloading. With a chip like the S4, apps launch pretty much immediately anyway.
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Here are some comparisons of the international galaxy s3 and the HTC one s
http://smartphones.techcrunch.com/compare/245-252/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-vs-HTC-One-S
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III,HTC-One-S/phones/6330,6579
And here are some reviews and comparisons of the USA galaxy s3 and the HTC one s.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-S,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Verizon/phones/6579,7114
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PiPo M9 Review / Discussion

Rooting instructions:
Type into google:
HTML:
site:pipo.cn upgrading procedure
Design and feel:
The tablet feels great, its one of the lightest tablets out on the market, only being beaten by the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, the build quality is great despite the weight, it feels solid, doesn’t bend under tension and is in my opinion one of the best Chinese tablets build quality wise.
One negative note is that the speakers are on the back and sometimes you can accidently put your hands over them, or have them facing down on a table and therefore sound isn’t as loud, but once the speakers aren’t covered they are one of the best quality speakers on the market.
In my opinion I don’t really like the design on the back, though my PiPo M9 will be in a fulltime case when it arrives. Its just a personal opinion as I’m not a fan of the Toshiba like backing.
Gaming:
Gaming is great overall, I tested apps such as Citadel, Real Racing 3, Bejeweled, Temple run 2 etc. I didn’t notice any lag in the actual gameplay while playing, but I did notice some lag which wasn’t noticeable to the normal person on the cut scenes of Real Racing 3, which only lasted about half a second, and were fixed once I rooted the device and overclocked it a bit.
Web browsing / PDF browsing:
Web browsing is pretty fast and snappy, but most of it is dependent on your internet speeds. Websites such as cnn.com loaded fine, zooming in and out there was no lag, watching online videos no lag, but some poorly coded websites like perthnow.com struggled, but this would have been the same on every single tablet.
PDF browsing is also lag free apart from zooming in really far, where it takes a second to focus the text so it looks crisp. This wouldn’t be an issue on a high resolution screen like the Nexus 10 or iPad 4, but for the price is pretty good. I’m not sure why you would be zooming in that much in real life though.
Battery life:
Generally the battery has been one of the impressive sides of this tablet. With wifi off, it loses about 1% every 8 hours on standby, with wireless on while in standby it loses about 5-10% every 8 hours. My first day with the tablet doing benchmarks and other stuff, after about 4-6 hours it was only down to about 45% which is pretty impressive. There was no issue with drainage etc. but bare in mind I’m on the newer March 19 firmware.
Android Experience:
Its snappy, works great. I used the Nova Launcher on mine as I was sick of clicking the top right corner to get to the list of apps. Most apps work great, I rooted the device so I could download mobile apps, as there still isn’t much tablet made apps or websites in general.
Price:
$250 for a quad core, 2GB ram, semi high resolution screen? This tablet is defiantly a good buy, and beats most tablets out there on the market. It will shine past high resolution tablets such as the Onda V972 which lags in HD mode and its only real competition is past the $300 mark.
Overall:
8/10 – A great buy for the price. A 10.1 inch quad core 2Gb tablet, what more could you ask for? Though 1 wish is that I hope 4.2 Android comes out with the new tablet features. Camera shouldn’t be an issue as most phone camera beat the tablets out there anyways.
It’s a great buy for almost everyone, but I wouldn’t recommend buying it for a geek or a tech savvy person as they will quickly pick up the small amounts of lag which might happen, which isn’t just isolated to this device.
Good points:
Minimalistic design
Great speakers
Android 4.1.1 Jellybean
Fast and responsive
Bad points:
Poor camera quality
Speakers on the back
If you're interested in where I bought my tablet from its from spemall
If you have any questions, or tests you would like me to do, please don't hesitate to ask and when I have time I will do those tests.

Hi. What speed do you overclock it to and what app do you use to overclock it? Are you using the stock firmware, only rooted?
I've seen some video showing it lagging in Real Racing 3, worse than the Onda V972 which has a larger resolution albeit with more powerful GPU. You said you do not experience any lag in gameplay?
If you have the time, maybe post some benchmark score of Antutu and 3DMark

spectra9 said:
Hi. What speed do you overclock it to and what app do you use to overclock it? Are you using the stock firmware, only rooted?
I've seen some video showing it lagging in Real Racing 3, worse than the Onda V972 which has a larger resolution albeit with more powerful GPU. You said you do not experience any lag in gameplay?
If you have the time, maybe post some benchmark score of Antutu and 3DMark
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I actually have it on 1.6ghz using rom toolbox or something. I'm using the 19th of March firmware.
I noticed lag on the cut scenes of Real Racing 3 which wasn't an issue when I changed the CPU to performance instead of on demand. But the actual driving gameplay is no lag, but sometimes the cutscenes have lag... but thats mainly because real racing 3 is badly coded.
thlmobile said:
A little expensive, I in this site bicgate.com buy a quad-core tablet, spent only $ 120, up to now have not any problems,I am very satisfied.
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Strong advertising your website blatantly.

Jerry158 said:
I actually have it on 1.6ghz using rom toolbox or something. I'm using the 19th of March firmware.
I noticed lag on the cut scenes of Real Racing 3 which wasn't an issue when I changed the CPU to performance instead of on demand. But the actual driving gameplay is no lag, but sometimes the cutscenes have lag... but thats mainly because real racing 3 is badly coded.
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Thanks for the info. So changing the governor to performance is enough to make it run smoother. Have you tried actually overclocking it just for kicks? . IIRC, the RK3188 is initially rated at 1.8 GHz
I'm very interested in buying this tablet, but rather concerned about the initial performance review. I realize RR3 is not a good benchmark, but seeing some tablets using the Exynos 4412, which use the same Mali GPU with lower clock can run RR3 better makes me a bit worried. Hopefully it'll get better as the firmware matures.
Anyway, just saw that JB 4.2 update is in the works at http://blog.geekbuying.com/, interesting

spectra9 said:
Thanks for the info. So changing the governor to performance is enough to make it run smoother. Have you tried actually overclocking it just for kicks? . IIRC, the RK3188 is initially rated at 1.8 GHz
I'm very interested in buying this tablet, but rather concerned about the initial performance review. I realize RR3 is not a good benchmark, but seeing some tablets using the Exynos 4412, which use the same Mali GPU with lower clock can run RR3 better makes me a bit worried. Hopefully it'll get better as the firmware matures.
Anyway, just saw that JB 4.2 update is in the works at
Great news about 4.2! Yeh, RR3 is poorly optimized and coded for MOST devices... the Exynos 4412 is a popular Samsung CPU used in its tablets which is why RR3 runs better on that... because its optmized for it... (the amount of Samsung users who would be mad - haha). So yeh, its not because its a bad CPU, its bad relative to the popular ones which most games are optimized for.
Waiting for a custom kernel to come out before overclocking.
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Jerry158 said:
Great news about 4.2! Yeh, RR3 is poorly optimized and coded for MOST devices... the Exynos 4412 is a popular Samsung CPU used in its tablets which is why RR3 runs better on that... because its optmized for it... (the amount of Samsung users who would be mad - haha). So yeh, its not because its a bad CPU, its bad relative to the popular ones which most games are optimized for.
Waiting for a custom kernel to come out before overclocking.
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What's strange to me is, the RK3188 beats the Exynos hands down in both CPU and GPU department. I'm no expert on this but, just by comparing raw power, the RK3188 should beat the exynos in every apps. I think Samsung just got a much more mature and solid firmware at this point

I'm waiting for a group buy to end to acquire one of these tablets.
I have a question regarding the screen performance while in the street with day light. How does it behave?
Is it like most smartphones that when we step outside we can see a thing?
I have seen many reviews but non speaks about this...

Djuganight said:
I'm waiting for a group buy to end to acquire one of these tablets.
I have a question regarding the screen performance while in the street with day light. How does it behave?
Is it like most smartphones that when we step outside we can see a thing?
I have seen many reviews but non speaks about this...
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Its pretty standard with mobiles... on brightest setting, in direct sunlight, like every other device you won't be able to see much.

With Samsung's and HTC's mobiles this doesn't happen...

I'm a bit disappointed with these Android compilation they install in Pipo M9.
It’s missing a ton of features that are native of Android ICS and JB.
For example:
1. Shortcut widgets from pull down menu should work to turn on/off the respective features.
Instead when clicked they take us to settings.
2. We should also be able to select, add or remove which widgets to show in that “pull down” menu.
We don't have this option
3. No Auto rotation on home screens with native launcher.
With 3rd party launcher this is possible....
4. Using the native launcher, not possible do we add/remove home screens?
Actually the native launcher does not allow a single customization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5. Native camera app is extremely poor and almost don't have any options.
Also, no option to choose where to save the photos and videos, such as on External SD Card.
6. No battery percentage icon as alternative as we have natively in ICS and JB roms.
7. On look screen the slide to unlock feature only allow the option to unlock.
In ICS and JB this "circle" has more options and in some cases we can also customize it. Here is just to unlock.
8. Honestly I just can't understand the system folder hierarchy nor the files and their settings, therefore I tried to do some changes and just don't know what to do. I do some MOD and DEV with Huawei and Samsung but this **** I never see!!
And so on and so on and so on....
Overall I'm extremely happy with the tablet but completely disappointed with this ****y and completely Android firmware they have INVENTED to install in this tablet.
This screems for real Dev works

Good for the girls

thlmobile said:
There have been reports PiPo M9 launch the white version.
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Can you send a picture?

Augustine02 said:
Can you send a picture?
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Just found it here

I've had this tablet for a good 3+ months now and so far no issues. I have rooted the phone following the process the OP mentioned above (Pipo instructions on how to upgrade firmware) and used this firmware (JB 4.2.2) ---> M9 software_english version_20130529（no need key); it's actually the third link posted.
I also have Nova Launcher and I will have to say the price I paid for it is very much well worth it. It's actually bang for the buck one of the best out there. It's one of the few Chinese tablets with (as of now) with bluetooth and a pseudo GPS (E-Compass). The OTG function also gives it 3G capability among other things.
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Here's the instructions on how to upgrade the firmware straight from the Pipo Website:
Upgrading Procedure
I personally used moborobo to download and install all the drivers you need in order to root it properly, then I followed the instructions given above.

looks good but for a 10" would like a higher resolution screen, although that brings other issues like higher power consumption for the screen, and requiring a faster GPU which again uses more power.

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looks good but for a 10" would like a higher resolution screen, although that brings other issues like higher power consumption for the screen, and requiring a faster GPU which again uses more power.
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I use my Pipo M9 a lot for reading e-books and watching videos and it's actually very good. I was on the fence for the same reasons you bring up; but seriously for the size, the resolution is good enough. Technically a 10" screen with a 720p resolution is good enough since I also game and I know that a 1080p screen on a 24" is good enough as well. I also know that anything higher than 24"; 1200p and 1440p are the best options, but that's another topic all together.
Of course, this is just my opinion and everyone will have their preference.

DOVahFeyN said:
I've had this tablet for a good 3+ months now and so far no issues. I have rooted the phone following the process the OP mentioned above (Pipo instructions on how to upgrade firmware) and used this firmware (JB 4.2.2) ---> M9 software_english version_20130529（no need key); it's actually the third link posted.
I also have Nova Launcher and I will have to say the price I paid for it is very much well worth it. It's actually bang for the buck one of the best out there. It's one of the few Chinese tablets with (as of now) with bluetooth and a pseudo GPS (E-Compass). The OTG function also gives it 3G capability among other things.
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Here's the instructions on how to upgrade the firmware straight from the Pipo Website:
Upgrading Procedure
I personally used moborobo to download and install all the drivers you need in order to root it properly, then I followed the instructions given above.
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What is the e-compass that pipo so much talk about it?
Because gps= zero

I've a 3g Pipo M9 ,32gig and would love to know how to root it.
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Jerry158 said:
I actually have it on 1.6ghz using rom toolbox or something. I'm using the 19th of March firmware.
I noticed lag on the cut scenes of Real Racing 3 which wasn't an issue when I changed the CPU to performance instead of on demand. But the actual driving gameplay is no lag, but sometimes the cutscenes have lag... but thats mainly because real racing 3 is badly coded.
Strong advertising your website blatantly.
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You can't get a 2gig ram 32 gig rom tab with 3g sum card slot on your crappy site. BTW your add should be removed and a 2 week bar for your freaking abuse of the site
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I've a 3g Pipo M9 ,32gig and would love to know how to root it.
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They way I did it was by flashing a pre-rooted rom (riley rom 1.7 with sdk 2.0). In the meantime, I had to ditch riley rom 1.7 and flashed riley rom 1.6 cause I had an annoying flickering display issue. With this rom, the issue is still there, but only occurs if I set brightness lower than 20 or 25%.
I honestly didn't keep the tablet with stock rom long enough to see if the flickering was already there... anyone else having flickering?
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santini069 said:
howard bamber said:
I've a 3g Pipo M9 ,32gig and would love to know how to root it.
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They way I did it was by flashing a pre-rooted rom (riley rom 1.7 with sdk 2.0). In the meantime, I had to ditch riley rom 1.7 and flashed riley rom 1.6 cause I had an annoying flickering display issue. With this rom, the issue is still there, but only occurs if I set brightness lower than 20 or 25%.
I honestly didn't keep the tablet with stock rom long enough to see if the flickering was already there... anyone else having flickering?
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I use Sumvision Cyclone Voyager 2 4.2 v1 (GB, Incl. Root) by Hejira , and the flickering issue is in alot of roms to be honest, at moment anything lower than 50% causes the flickering for me, but that aside , this is a fantastic tablet.
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Just received my N9005

I received my Note 3 N9005 (LTE Qualcomm version) this morning and so far it's blown me away. I had an S4 (also Qualcomm LTE quad core) for a few weeks before ditching it and going back to my Note 2 due to the lag and various performance and heat issues, but I'm glad to say they're gone completely on the new Note 3. Under heavy load the back does get warm obviously, it's a fast processor and high-end GPU after all, but it stays cooler than the S4 and takes longer to heat up in general. Everything in the UI is utterly smooth and lag free, launching the camera app and taking a snap is near instant compared to the ~2 second lag on the S4 between pressing the shutter button and an image being captured. [email protected] videos look stunning, I was seriously impressed at the phone's ability to keep up and maintain the frame rate, and when in this mode the screen updates at 60fps as well so you get a good preview. [email protected] is likewise excellent, although just be sure to select 1/4 speed rather than the default 1/8 speed, as this still captures at 120fps (1/4 speed), but encodes and plays it back at 15fps (1/8 speed) which is not smooth at all. The display is absolutely beautiful, coming from the Note 2 the step up in resolution and colour presentation are immediately obvious, and even outdoors it still looks great. This is the nicest phone display I've ever laid eyes upon, and I've had a good look at most of 'em. Gone is the black crush effect, the purple redraw artefacts and the grittiness of the S4's panel, and being sAMOLED contrast is exceptional. In the hand it feels light compared to the Note 2, but at the same time sturdier, better built and there is zero flex or creaking unlike it's predecessor. USB 3.0 file transfers are noticeably quicker than USB 2, except of course if you're writing to the external MicroSD card as it's write speed is the bottleneck there. The faux-leather effect back still feels like plastic, but there's better grip and being matte, no fingerprints.
So far it feels like it justifies the high price (£604.96 from www.unlocked-mobiles.com including shipping), and time will tell on the battery life. Despite the bump in resolution I'm expecting good things there, the more efficient SOC and slightly larger capacity cell should hopefully offset the draw of running all 2,073,600 of those tiny little LEDs. So yeah, so far I love it and can easily recommend the upgrade from the Note 2, and especially the S4. If anyone wants more details, just ask

Nice little review.. what you think about the speakers? any better than the note 2? the note 2 speakers were better than s4 or any other samsung phone previously so maybe this one is a tad bit better? coming from the htc one, I know im going to miss those speakers but hopefully i dont cringe in pain from the experience on the note 3 (speaker wise) lol ..no one seems to do a review of the speakers on youtube and when i get the phone, thats the first thing i will do for people

As far as the speakers are concerned I just want them to be louder. I hate it when it is so quiet you can barely hear anything.
So can you give us an update on the loudness for the speakers please.

Don't worry about the battery life, it's pretty decent. I have posted detailed battery usage on my thread if you're interested. And the charging speed is around 48%/hour so you can topple it up pretty quickly compared to other phones.
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Nice little review.. what you think about the speakers? any better than the note 2? the note 2 speakers were better than s4 or any other samsung phone previously so maybe this one is a tad bit better? coming from the htc one, I know im going to miss those speakers but hopefully i dont cringe in pain from the experience on the note 3 (speaker wise) lol ..no one seems to do a review of the speakers on youtube and when i get the phone, thats the first thing i will do for people
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The sound is louder than Note2's I think. I sold my note2 already so can't compare them side by side.
This video shows the audio compared to the new Sony Z1 ... hope it helps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0

stepinmyworld said:
Nice little review.. what you think about the speakers? any better than the note 2? the note 2 speakers were better than s4 or any other samsung phone previously so maybe this one is a tad bit better? coming from the htc one, I know im going to miss those speakers but hopefully i dont cringe in pain from the experience on the note 3 (speaker wise) lol ..no one seems to do a review of the speakers on youtube and when i get the phone, thats the first thing i will do for people
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The loud speaker is definitely an improvement on the Note 2, and being positioned on the bottom edge doesn't get obscured merely by putting the phone down on a soft surface such as the arm of my sofa. In terms of volume it's clearly louder and has less distortion than the Note 2 and S4, but it won't match the experience of the HTC One with it's dual front-facing speakers. Quality wise, it's still a tiny phone speaker so you won't be doing any serious listening with it, but it's loud and clear enough to be heard in noisy environments within limits, not in a club or near a runway obviously, but it's acceptable in the car and walking around the city. The headphone output however is I think my favourite improvement. Audio output via a decent set of headphones is simply incredible. Not just incredible for a phone, but bona fide excellent. I'm not claiming it'll best a Linn reference set up, but I've heard poorer audio from home setups and dedicated headphone amps costing many times the price of this phone. PowerAmp seems to downsample anything above 48khz, but the stock player renders 192KHz 24-bit flac files beautifully.

MohJee said:
Don't worry about the battery life, it's pretty decent. I have posted detailed battery usage on my thread if you're interested. And the charging speed is around 48%/hour so you can topple it up pretty quickly compared to other phones.
The sound is louder than Note2's I think. I sold my note2 already so can't compare them side by side.
This video shows the audio compared to the new Sony Z1 ... hope it helps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0
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can you type the name of the video here? I'm unable to click the link at work lol... but i can search the video via youtube..
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MohJee said:
Don't worry about the battery life, it's pretty decent. I have posted detailed battery usage on my thread if you're interested. And the charging speed is around 48%/hour so you can topple it up pretty quickly compared to other phones.
The sound is louder than Note2's I think. I sold my note2 already so can't compare them side by side.
This video shows the audio compared to the new Sony Z1 ... hope it helps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0
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vanButton said:
The loud speaker is definitely an improvement on the Note 2, and being positioned on the bottom edge doesn't get obscured merely by putting the phone down on a soft surface such as the arm of my sofa. In terms of volume it's clearly louder and has less distortion than the Note 2 and S4, but it won't match the experience of the HTC One with it's dual front-facing speakers. Quality wise, it's still a tiny phone speaker so you won't be doing any serious listening with it, but it's loud and clear enough to be heard in noisy environments within limits, not in a club or near a runway obviously, but it's acceptable in the car and walking around the city. The headphone output however is I think my favourite improvement. Audio output via a decent set of headphones is simply incredible. Not just incredible for a phone, but bona fide excellent. I'm not claiming it'll best a Linn reference set up, but I've heard poorer audio from home setups and dedicated headphone amps costing many times the price of this phone. PowerAmp seems to downsample anything above 48khz, but the stock player renders 192KHz 24-bit flac files beautifully.
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well that sounds promising... from the tones of the notifications, it sounds strong

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can you type the name of the video here? I'm unable to click the link at work lol... but i can search the video via youtube..
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ePrice - Xperia Z1 與 Note 3 |擴音喇叭表現比較
It's in chinese The channel name is ePrice HK

MohJee said:
ePrice - Xperia Z1 與 Note 3 |擴音喇叭表現比較
It's in chinese The channel name is ePrice HK
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o wow! i like how much louder it is than the z1 i hear a tiny bit of base coming through the note 3 lollll
thanks a lot for posting the video name

How does the screen look under direct sun light? Thanks.
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Got mine today loving it what a nice phone

testrider said:
How does the screen look under direct sun light? Thanks.
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I live in Scotland, I don't know what anything looks like under direct sunlight :laugh: It's fairly bright outside just now but overcast, and the screen remains clearly legible and bright. Indoors under LED bulbs it looks great too, and reflection is not as much of an issue as it was on the Note 2.

Thanks! I'm in SoCal and it's sunny almost everyday of the year so that's a concern
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How come my screen gets very warm quite quickly?
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Quick/stupid question. The sticker on the site of the box that states what region sim you can use. Does it state North America and the Caribbean?
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Xshinobi said:
Quick/stupid question. The sticker on the site of the box that states what region sim you can use. Does it state North America and the Caribbean?
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Mine's the European version, so it doesn't mention either of them.

vanButton said:
... slightly larger capacity cell should hopefully offset the draw of running all 2,073,600 of those tiny little LEDs.
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Shouldn't that be 4,147,200 LEDs?

dscline said:
Shouldn't that be 4,147,200 LEDs?
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Indeed it should :silly: I realised my mistake after posting. 4,147,204 if you wanna count the notification RGB and the IR blaster

Is there any difference hardware wise between this model and the AT&T version?
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Is there any difference hardware wise between this model and the AT&T version?
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The only difference I can see is the ATT version comes with a slightly different back cover, which features a rather tacky (in my opinion) stylised "Galaxy Note 3" in silver near the bottom.

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The only difference I can see is the ATT version comes with a slightly different back cover, which features a rather tacky (in my opinion) stylised "Galaxy Note 3" in silver near the bottom.
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And AT&T version comes with the bands to support their LTE.

Some Questions before buying

I’m currently using a Xs Max.I want to ask how is haptics compared to iPhone.I heard that they improved in Note 10+. Also how is gaming in exynos compared to snapdragon. I play Pes 2020 a lot can anyone confirm the performance on High graphics & 60 fps setting?Any other issue I should be aware of?

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I’m currently using a Xs Max.I want to ask how is haptics compared to iPhone.I heard that they improved in Note 10+. Also how is gaming in exynos compared to snapdragon. I play Pes 2020 a lot can anyone confirm the performance on High graphics & 60 fps setting?Any other issue I should be aware of?
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Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAG1NE7JwKY

What’s your experience?How are the haptics?

I've just moved from iphone xs max to note 10 plus you will not regret it
You have the haptics menu but you can hardly feel the push
Android now is so liberating , the camera in my opinion runs rings around apple .. and the firmware is buttery smooth
I lost my faith my apple after iOS 13 and also the new mac operating system it's like apple have gone back 10 years
If you have your pictures on apple photo use Google own photos and it will if you add the software to your computer transfer them
Music whilst it wont sync with iTunes I just drag my music onto an USB c memory stick and shove it in the phone and copy it over
I've got a 512gb memory card and I have loads of music and pics on it
Go for it you wont regret it if it puts it in perspective I've been with apple since the iphone 4 and i don't regret the move one minute except iMessage but can live with that

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I lost my faith my apple after iOS 13 and also the new mac operating system it's like apple have gone back 10 years
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Hey just curious, but I'm really interested in why you think this?

absinthex said:
Hey just curious, but I'm really interested in why you think this?
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iOS 13 made even the newest iphone less buttery smooth regularly had app failures and lock ups
The new mac software Carolina is like a bad version of windows ME
If you want to be able to make changes to the home launcher / and calendars etc on your home screen then android is the way forward I've not looked back since making the move

you forgot to mention that XS MAX is in it's own league regarding battery life and dynamic range

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you forgot to mention that XS MAX is in it's own league regarding battery life and dynamic range
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I had the XS Max Pro and I get more battery life from my note 10 plus 5g
Apple to me is so behind the times they have only just put on their new phones ultra wide ...
It's down to individual choice but as a life long apple user I love android

i have both and i can guarantee you that in real-life usage Samsung is way behind, they dropped the ball this year with exynos, look at what Xperia 5 achieves with smaller batteries - best optimized phone of the year

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i have both and i can guarantee you that in real-life usage Samsung is way behind, they dropped the ball this year with exynos, look at what Xperia 5 achieves with smaller batteries - best optimized phone of the year
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Do you have exynos model?

yes it's a power-hog whereas my backup cheap Note 7 with 4000mah lasts the entire day with heavy usage

RISHI RAJ said:
I’m currently using a Xs Max.I want to ask how is haptics compared to iPhone.I heard that they improved in Note 10+. Also how is gaming in exynos compared to snapdragon. I play Pes 2020 a lot can anyone confirm the performance on High graphics & 60 fps setting?Any other issue I should be aware of?
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So i have used both Android and Apple and have switched in between. My last phone was iPhone 7 Plus and have been using it since 2016. I switched to the Note 10 Plus last month after waiting to see what the new iPhone would bring. The camera layout is horrible and ios13 has had no major update apart from Dark Mode. I also had been looking up reviews and opinions for S10+ and Note10+ and eventually went for the Note due to larger battery, faster charging and that gorgeous display. My last android was the Note 4 and even that was way ahead of iPhone 7 Plus, it had a freaking QHD Amoled screen! Go for the Note 10+ you will not regret it. I have the Exynos variant and performance is smooth, games dont lag. Battery life could have been a BIT better, however it is still very good and should last you a day (morning to night) and the 25W charger helps you top up your battery during the day if needed really fast, but you won't need to. I am probably never going back to Apple again after experiencing the Note10+.