[Q] Charging decharges w/data on - T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide

My phone's battery goes down if it's charging and the data is on until the phone dies. I'm using miktouch and Hyperion's extended battery. It also doesn't seem to charge fast at all (12+ hours). Once it's "dead"it will power off, then randomly go back to 100% battery (orange light to green light).
Anyone else have this issue?
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GiftigDegen said:
My phone's battery goes down if it's charging and the data is on until the phone dies. I'm using miktouch and Hyperion's extended battery. It also doesn't seem to charge fast at all (12+ hours). Once it's "dead"it will power off, then randomly go back to 100% battery (orange light to green light).
Anyone else have this issue?
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First guess is you have a defective battery. Draining while connected to the charger should never happen with a good battery.

I guessed as much too. These Hyperion batteries go bad quickly. I've had five since January.
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Fuzi0719 said:
First guess is you have a defective battery. Draining while connected to the charger should never happen with a good battery.
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Have you ever used the Anker batteries?
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GiftigDegen said:
Have you ever used the Anker batteries?
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I've not used them, but everyone I've talked to says they're the best.

Fuzi0719 said:
I've not used them, but everyone I've talked to says they're the best.
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I just got mine. It says to not use more than 4.2V to charge it. My chargers are all 5.0V. What kind of danger am I playing with buy not buying a compatible charger?

GiftigDegen said:
I just got mine. It says to not use more than 4.2V to charge it. My chargers are all 5.0V. What kind of danger am I playing with buy not buying a compatible charger?
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With LiPo batteries there is the danger of explosion/fire. I have an Anker universal charger and note that the output when plugged in is 4.2V. However, USB ports output 5V, so I would think the Anker battery can tolerate that otherwise you would not be able to charge the phone by plugging into a USB port.

Fuzi0719 said:
With LiPo batteries there is the danger of explosion/fire. I have an Anker universal charger and note that the output when plugged in is 4.2V. However, USB ports output 5V, so I would think the Anker battery can tolerate that otherwise you would not be able to charge the phone by plugging into a USB port.
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I hope so too.
So, brand new anker and the battery still decharges when plugged in and goes full charge once the phone is off. I'm thinking there's something broken with the phone and not so much the batteries.
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From a lot of the comments in this forum, I suspect the phone has a charging circuit controlled by software rather than hardware. Before you do anything hardware drastic, you might try flashing a different kernel.
Also, you report that the battery leaps to 'full' when you disconnect the charger. Have you tried measuring the battery voltage physically with a multimeter to see if the battery is charging at all. Should be 4.2V when fully charged. Something like 3.6V when empty. Obviously if you put the battery in for half an hour and the voltage goes up, it's charging no matter what the UI says!

I've not tried either of those. I don't completely understand what the kernel is. I'm using Miktouch rom, but I don't know how much that has to do with the kernel. I know the battery is being charged because if I leave it plugged in for a good 8 hours it holds its charge for the day. And if I leave it plugged in for say, half a day, and turn off data/wifi, it will slowly show increased charge, like a percentage per half hours of charging.
What do I need to know and do to flash a new kernel on here?
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GiftigDegen said:
I've not tried either of those. I don't completely understand what the kernel is. I'm using Miktouch rom, but I don't know how much that has to do with the kernel. I know the battery is being charged because if I leave it plugged in for a good 8 hours it holds its charge for the day. And if I leave it plugged in for say, half a day, and turn off data/wifi, it will slowly show increased charge, like a percentage per half hours of charging.
What do I need to know and do to flash a new kernel on here?
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Your the only one of my users to ever have this issue, including me. And the doubleshot was my last device before going Nexus last February.
What I would do is:
1. Backup all your user downloaded apps with Titanium Backup.
2. *Do a full wipe from recovery*
*Wipe data/factory reset
*Format system
*Format Data
*Format cache
3. Flash MikTouch and reboot.
4. Once rebooted don't go cramming apps and settings back into your phone just yet. Make sure its going to charge and drain like its supposed to. If all is well, then start 1 by 1 with your apps, making sure each of them are not causing your issues. If all tests are passed then something in the ROM its self went stupid.
Sounds like hardware though.
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Charging phone at overnight is bad?

Hey forums, very simple question is charging the phone overnight bad for the infuse? I always get a warning to plug out the phone in the morning. Can overcharging be bad for my battery? Merci.
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No, charging overnight is fine.
Sarius24 said:
Hey forums, very simple question is charging the phone overnight bad for the infuse? I always get a warning to plug out the phone in the morning. Can overcharging be bad for my battery? Merci.
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Do you mean that you get a warning after leaving it plugged in all night?
If so, check to make sure that your cable is connected properly. On some cables, the connectors are not fully touching.
What I was trying to say is. Usually the battery is able to charge fully overnight. But then it probably just sits there with the charger in until morning when I pull it out. I was wondering if the extra time its charging on full battery is bad.
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Nope, its not bad, whenever the phone reaches 100% it disconnects the charger till it drops to 95%,then it starts charging again and so on,at least that's the case with my phone on official and custom roms
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Nope i've had 20 diff phones and never followed charging cycles and all that let your battery run down and charge it up nonsense. Never had any battery issues ever with any of my phones
GGXtreme said:
No, charging overnight is fine.
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I put it on charge when I go to bed, and unplug it when I wake up. Just make sure to keep it in open where the phone isn't covered.
Thanks for the responses! I wont worry about this anymore.
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Make sure to always use quality, reputable chargers and not the ones you buy at the flea market that say "Made in the Democratic Republic of the Congo".
Lol no problem. I still have the charger that came with it
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Yes it is bad, because it will overcharge your battery. It takes a while, but if you overcharge your battery constantly then the battery life slowly starts decreasing until it dies.
SSBB freak said:
Yes it is bad, because it will overcharge your battery. It takes a while, but if you overcharge your battery constantly then the battery life slowly starts decreasing until it dies.
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In a sense this is correct as the same as playing on your phone while its charging I wonder if we have a unplug app when I was on the evo we had a app that would disconnected the charger when full and wouldn't read it until the battery was at 80%
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Yes it is bad, because it will overcharge your battery. It takes a while, but if you overcharge your battery constantly then the battery life slowly starts decreasing until it dies.
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The phone doesn't actually charge the battery to 100% unless you're using an SBC kernel. You can leave it on the charger as long as you want and it will never overcharge unless you have some kind of malfunction.
Been only charging overnight since I got the phone last May.
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I use my phone as alarm and it charges every night since I've had it. No issues with battery unless I flash a rom that is a battery hog.
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Infuse charging stopped

I had the infuse on the AC charger the other day, when I took it off, it had a message stating charging stopped because of battery temperature. Now battery will only charge to 35% no matter how long its plugged in. Also when phone is off the charger, phone is getting very warm to the touch and the phone is not being used. Do you think I need a new battery or is the charging circuit messed up? Thanks for any input!!!
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If your able to plug it in and it shows it's charging then there is noting wrong with the circuitry. Your gonna need to replace the battery.
A new battery is much cheaper than a new phone.
Batteries heat up as the internal resistance increases over time. As Axiomkid suggests, get another battery. Do it soon. Old (or defective batteries) overheating run the risk of shorting, leaking, or exploding.
Better yet get two batteries and maintain them properly ie discharge to 10%, recharge to 100%, then swap out with another battery and let the recharged battery cool down.
Tried a new battery, it charged to 100%... but drained 50% in one hour. When I charged it again same problem is still happening. Thanks for all that helped.
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You might need a new charger too. are you using the original Samsung charger? Try charging it from a PC too. The 50% drop in the charge could be a calibration issue too. It would improve that reading over the first few charges with the new battery.
yes i am using original charger, i have use a captivate phone charger as well. i think they are both the same. i'm thinking something is wrong with the phone because after charging and taking the phone off, the phone is getting really hot without being on the charger. like the phone is being used but it's not. could maybe the rom cause an issue like this? i'm thinking maybe trying to flash the phone with a stock rom and see how much the battery drains
Problem solved!!! Reflashed ROM and all is good
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Glad to hear your problem is solved! Was that the root cause with your first battery as well?

Help! Phone won't charge

This has been a somewhat recurring problem since I got my phone. Some nights when I put it on the charger the battery icon will show that it is charging, but when I wake up it will be at 30%. I have to take the battery out several times before it actually charges. It did this a few nights when I first got it, but then it got better for the next couple months and now it's doing it again. I'm running CM7 with Da_G's kernel and haven't changed anything since the first successful flash. I'm also using the same battery and charger that came in the box.
I noticed that the battery is rated 1850 mAh and the sticker on the inside cover of my phone is rated for 1500 mAh, would that be a problem?
Maybe you just have a junk Battery? I would try another one. (and that way at a minimum, you have a spare)
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Try this: go to your dialer and dial *#*#4636#*#* and tap battery information. There's a couple things to look at on this screen, first of which would be battery health. If it says anything other than good, try resetting your phone. If it says good, then plug in your charger and look at the battery status field. It should say charging. If it says discharging, try a different charger. If it's still discharging on a different charger, do a master reset and try again. If it still discharges after the master reset, you should look at getting your phone replaced.
It says the battery is in good health and that it's charging, but it's been stuck on 29% for about 30 minutes now. I'm thoroughly confused.
Did you try a different charger?
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If you tried a different charger and the factory reset didn't make a difference you should look at replacement.
Yup, try a different charger. Samsung oem usb cables have had some issues.
And if that's the case you should get a free replacement from AT&T. And get a replacement battery while you're at it, always good to have a spare...
Firedcylinder said:
Did you try a different charger?
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I used my charger from my old phone and also my car charger and it just seems to be random when the battery decides to charge. There's no definite way to get it to charge, I just have to plug it in and hope for the best and maybe do a few battery pulls. Sounds like I'll have to buy a new battery.
Don't buy one, that's a warranty replacement. And if that doesn't work get a replacement device. Something is defective.
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skrambled said:
Don't buy one, that's a warranty replacement. And if that doesn't work get a replacement device. Something is defective.
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Talking with support now, thanks for the heads up.
I had the same problem this morning. I am on ICS 7.4 stock and I recently added some mods from dark kobalt theme. First my phone died while charging, so I turned it back on and I received a message about too many things running and before I could stop the tasks it turned off again. After a couple tries, I was able to close all background data etc. At this point it still wouldnt take a charge but it would stay on while plugged into charger...15 mins later it started charging normally again!

Sensation takes 6 hours to charge from 1% to 100%

Hi all,
ever since i rooted my phone and flashed another ROM, i have been having this problem of very very long charging to 100%. I did attempt to calibrate the battery after flashing the ROM by the way.
First CM7, then Virtuous Inquisition, now Ordroid.
From 1% to 70% it would be quicker. Then from 71% and onward, it will take hours to move. I am using the original usb cable n adapter for charging, i can't seem to figure out what can be wrong.
Or did i calibrate the battery in a wrong way?
You charging via a power socket or a USB port in a device like a computer or something?
I think he was implying he's using the usb with wall charger
Mine takes almost 3 hours, more if i'm using it a lot while charging -- all stock with ICS
Hi, I'm on ordroid too and it takes me two to three hours to fully charge with my wall charger. I'm using a different battery, extended life Anker battery. My stock battery was so bad it took too long to charge and ran out so quickly! Are you using stock battery still or a another battery? If it's stock, you might want to consider a long lasting battery. I've found it charges faster and lasts longer. I hope this helps
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It is intended to do that, i think.... I read before somewhere, too lazy to look for it though lol... It slows down the charging when its near completion to avoid battery damage.... Mine does the same thing, i give my phone atleast 7 or 8 hours from as low as 15 to 10 percent
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Hi,
this not normal. My Sensation takes between 1 or 2 hours to full charge from empty.
After charging, how long you can run on battery?
When charging, is screen on or off? any application draining battery?
Regards
I think you just might have an issue with your charger. Go get a new one and see how that works out for you. If that doesnt fix it - get an anker battery
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ypsmav said:
Hi,
this not normal. My Sensation takes between 1 or 2 hours to full charge from empty.
After charging, how long you can run on battery?
When charging, is screen on or off? any application draining battery?
Regards
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Honestly this seems more likely to be not normal. 0 to 100 in one hour with this phone would blow me away.
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If you all want faster charging get an ipad 2 charger and plug in your usb cord in instead !
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It might be the usb cord or usb wall plug... The one that came with the phone works the best for me. All the other ones usually give me a problem...
realsis said:
Hi, I'm on ordroid too and it takes me two to three hours to fully charge with my wall charger. I'm using a different battery, extended life Anker battery. My stock battery was so bad it took too long to charge and ran out so quickly! Are you using stock battery still or a another battery? If it's stock, you might want to consider a long lasting battery. I've found it charges faster and lasts longer. I hope this helps
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I am using stock battery, stock USB cable and stock adapter.
AndroidNeophyte said:
It is intended to do that, i think.... I read before somewhere, too lazy to look for it though lol... It slows down the charging when its near completion to avoid battery damage.... Mine does the same thing, i give my phone atleast 7 or 8 hours from as low as 15 to 10 percent
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Are you serious..? I always thought something is wrong with my phone because of the long charging time. Many in the forum of custom ROM will feedback they charge for 2-3 hrs to full battery though..
ypsmav said:
Hi,
this not normal. My Sensation takes between 1 or 2 hours to full charge from empty.
After charging, how long you can run on battery?
When charging, is screen on or off? any application draining battery?
Regards
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My battery can last for 4-5 hours under constant usage of data and apps, before going to less than 10%.
Any apple wall charger*
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Try to use different usb cord and wall charger, if it still giving you problem, i suggest u either do a fresh install your current rom or install a different rom.
try a different wall charger if the problem is the same then u need to consider a other battery
thanks for the advices..
it just came to my mind, that before I flashed any ROMs, when i was still using stock HTC Sense 3.0, it used to only take 2-3 hrs to full charge. Now it's 6.
Doubt that, mine charges to 100 in about an hour and a half (Running HyperNonSense).
If you're using a USB charger, make sure the phone knows the power source is (AC) and not USB. USB will charge a lot slower. Dial *#*#4636#*#* for testing info and look under battery information (There's probably another spot in settings but this is my favorite).
Also use the original power adpater that came with the device, or one that came with another similar device.
Mine takes 4-8 hours to charge in any ROM. Last night it was almost 9 hours from 3% to 100%
When it reaches 60 more or less it's like 100% if you reboot. I do reboot everytime to stop the wait. I don't know if that's bad but this phone charges very slow after some percentage is reached.
My phone take 1hr.45mins
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Sensation-al! said:
Any apple wall charger*
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IPad charger outputs more voltage...
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KCuadrado said:
When it reaches 60 more or less it's like 100% if you reboot. I do reboot everytime to stop the wait. I don't know if that's bad but this phone charges very slow after some percentage is reached.
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This is crap, what you´re doing!
If you charge the battery, the phone doesn´t know how much capacity it got. (Could be an old battery or a bigger/smaller non-stock battery) So the device will recorgnice how fast the battery adopt the power and estimate when it slows down on a specific value when to stop and show 100%.
If you will restart the device during the loading sequence, it makes a battery calibration and thinks your on 100%. But of course it is still on 60%.
Your just fooling yourself

What "method" do u use to charge your Captivate

Hello !
I have read several articles in where people use different methods to charge theyr battery.Maybe it has been talken in XDA too but i havent found nothing that regards charging
How do u charge the battery ?U keep the level from 90 % to 50 % and once a month u fully discharge and than fully charge ?
Or u fully charge it after it shuts off cause of low battery?
Thanks
I'm a bit of a battery abuser, I tend to charge randomly when I think it will be under heavy load such as long drive in the car listening to music I will plug it in with my cigarette usb adapter thingy..
Most other times just plug it into my laptop. My habit for discharging and turning it on until it dont turn back on is maybe every couple weeks to a month if I remember to. Bout that time is when I start cycling out old apps I don't use and just maintaining clean phone status.
...Wall charger every night, all night, while still on, while I sleep. Been doing it this way for 2 years and still using the original battery.
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I just charge it whenever it's anywhere between 40-50% and have access to an outlet.
I use USB to charge my phone I plug it in at night around 9 and it's good around 10am then I unhook it. It stays good till about 6 or 7 pm
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Lithium Ion batteries don't have memory effect, so the only reason to run a complete drain and recharge is if the battery fuel gage needs calibration.
I leave mine on the AC or USB charger everynight. The Captivate's power management chip reduces the charging current when the battery approaches full. After becoming fully charged, it stops charging for an hour or two, waiting until the voltage has dropped about 0.1 V, then resumes the small trickle charge until full again.
You want to avoid getting the battery too hot, because that will reduce battery life (life= number of battery charge cycles). I have an alarm set in battery monitor widget (bmw) when the battery temp is 45 degrees C or higher. you can get bmw or other battery tools on Google Play.
you can read more about charging Li Ion batteries here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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It is my second time that i fully drain and fully charge my battery.
It is wrong what im doing ?
I don't think of it as right or wrong. You don't need to drain it all the way or charge it to 100% if it is not convenient.
I put my phone on the charger at night even if the battery is 60% or more full, with the phone on. I want it at 100% in the morning. During the day, it often gets charged while I am driving or when I am using my laptop. Is is seldom fully charged during the day, and it rarely gets drained all the way.
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Hamsters...
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Lol !
And the hard part was that it took ya 2 months to train the one hamster to say, "Beeeep ! Fully charged !"
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4-2ndtwin said:
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Lol !
And the hard part was that it took ya 2 months to train the one hamster to say, "Beeeep ! Fully charged !"
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Exactly! But we're still having issues with his timing!
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I just plug it into a wall socket when it drops below 50% ... been doing it that way for a couple of years and haven't had any issues.
on a normal day, my cappy gets to 10% and under and then i charge it everynight
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Hamsters...
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Yeah, and you want to give 'em hummingbird food for faster charging and best compatability with the captivate's cpu. With this charging method, you can even hear the hummingbird hum if you put your phone in a conch shell and hold it up to your ear.
I use a potato battery.
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I use a potato battery.
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Good to see you still popping your head in the cappy forums
I charge my phone whenever the hell I feel like it. No thought to it, always have. Battery still holds a charge perfectly fine.
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I use a potato battery.
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how many potatoes in series does it take to get 5 Volts?
one potato, two potato,
three potato, four?
five potato, six potato,
seven potato, more?
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how many potatoes in series does it take to get 5 Volts?
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42.
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I have four batteries for my Captivate, because the original seemed sorta crappy, and I found supposed-OEM batteries pretty cheap on Amazon.
My micro-USB port seems to have taken a crap, and the phone will no longer charge via that method. So basically, I have an extra-battery wall charger going all the time, and I swap batteries whenever the battery in the phone dies.
I just connect the usb cable port from my Xbox to the phone when I'm at the man-cave table. At night to my computer's usb port since it still power's up when the computer's off which is convenient :laugh:

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