As the main discussion thread for the Samsung Galaxy S4 i9502 has now been closed, due to the original question being answered, I thought that I would start a new one, since we need somewhere where i9502 owners can talk. I am happy to keep this post updated with important information regarding the i9502.
For those wanting to install Google Play on the mobile, and to resolve issues relating to caller ID, I recommend installing SVA ROM v2.5 on your device. I have written up a guide on how to do this, at the link below:
If the ROM helps you, be sure to thank _SVA_
Thanks MarrkDaviid for creating a new thread, I just saw the closed thread and was worried that i9502 users won't be able to share info with each others.
First Thanks to Marrk !
I hope we can go on to discuss, help and develope for the 9502.
Like on Marrk's blog i made an illustrated guidance for installation of CWM, ROOT, remowing bloadware, updating STOCK-ROM
like Marrk does but it is in german speech. I will see to make it in english too.
goes like hell
No worries, direct links are good.
goes_like_hell said:
Like on Marrk's blog i made an illustrated guidance for installation of CWM, ROOT, remowing bloadware, updating STOCK-ROM
like Marrk does but it is in german speech. I will see to make it in english too.
Thanks Goes Like Hell. You may like to double check your link, it isn't working for me.
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Thanks for this new thread.
Thanks to Marrk to create this new thread!!
As him and Goes Like Hell me too I had written a "Step by Step" tutorial in Italian language in order to help in flashing roms on Samsung Galaxy gt-i9502.
Below is the link to the most followed Italian Android Forum:
In the previous page of the Italian thread (post #121) I also recognized credits specifying that they provide all the contents and I only organized, merged and translated their guides for italian users.
Ciao!
HI,
I checked your new thread. Good tutorial.
Thanks for new thread.
One thing I cannot get out of my mind is - described this in the older thread - when or if the caller recognition (match number to address book) really be fixed.
The caller recognition in SVA ROM (it must be the radio stack in Stock Rom causing it) is matching the number in a strange way, in most of Europe (at least) it cannot handle a contact stored in a different way compared to how the operators sends it (prefix or not).
I got explanation from European guy that normally for caller recognition a phone tries to match, starting from the last, nine numbers from last position to the left. So, if matched the last ones, it get the name. Don't know if it is true, source not confirmed.
Anyway, the method used on these firmwares seems to work everywhere, have been traveling with my European i9505 in Europe, Asia and US with no issues. So why implement another behavior on the i9502- I just don't get why an operator request this from cell manufacturers.
Last post on this issue. I wait and see if it ever will get fixed. I can live with phone numbers stored in double format.
PS - I can use any number length on the SVA caller id, no difference at all, phone can still and only match my contacts as long as I store them in correct format.
qlaz said:
Thanks for new thread.
One thing I cannot get out of my mind is - described this in the older thread - when or if the caller recognition (match number to address book) really be fixed.
The caller recognition in SVA ROM (it must be the radio stack in Stock Rom causing it) is matching the number in a strange way, in most of Europe (at least) it cannot handle a contact stored in a different way compared to how the operators sends it (prefix or not).
I got explanation from European guy that normally for caller recognition a phone tries to match, starting from the last, nine numbers from last position to the left. So, if matched the last ones, it get the name. Don't know if it is true, source not confirmed.
Anyway, the method used on these firmwares seems to work everywhere, have been traveling with my European i9505 in Europe, Asia and US with no issues. So why implement another behavior on the i9502- I just don't get why an operator request this from cell manufacturers.
Last post on this issue. I wait and see if it ever will get fixed. I can live with phone numbers stored in double format.
PS - I can use any number length on the SVA caller id, no difference at all, phone can still and only match my contacts as long as I store them in correct format.
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I live in Italy and in my contact list I have some numbers stored with Country prefix, some other numbers without Country prefix... and i do not notice missmatch with caller id... Often enough I receive call by customers living abroad Italy and if I do not have their number stored in the contact list, instead of their name, it appear the name of the city from where the call is coming (e.g. Seoul, London, Washington D.C. etc. etc.).
Have a nice day! ; )
Lexo1972 said:
I live in Italy and in my contact list I have some numbers stored with Country prefix, some other numbers without Country prefix... and i do not notice missmatch with caller id... Often enough I receive call by customers living abroad Italy and if I do not have their number stored in the contact list, instead of their name, it appear the name of the city from where the call is coming (e.g. Seoul, London, Washington D.C. etc. etc.).
Have a nice day! ; )
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OK - Will test it in Italy next time I am there.
The thing is when the carrier sends the number without country code it is impossible for the caller id to be matched if contact is stored with country code - the caller id match from left to right it seems and it will then be a conflict with the prefix/country code when doing so. From right to left, it would probably work fine.
Hi, I've got a galaxy s4 i9502 arriving soon. I was wondering what the difference is between the procedure shown on video and the sva procedure for installing Google play? The video one seems easier. Any major differences?
Thanks
qlaz said:
I wait and see if it ever will get fixed. I can live with phone numbers stored in double format.
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It would be great if someone could fix this issue, the problem is that ROM developers would rather work on the i9505 and the i9500, rather than the i9502, due to them being more common devices with a larger community, with no issues due to being sourced from China.
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I was wondering what the difference is between the procedure shown on video and the sva procedure for installing Google play? The video one seems easier. Any major differences?
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You are better off following my new procedure:
The main differences are that Caller ID works better, SVA ROM v2.5 is already rooted and you don't have to manually remove Chinese bloatware. The new procedure is actually quicker, after you have downloaded the initial files.
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It would be great if someone could fix this issue, the problem is that ROM developers would rather work on the i9505 and the i9500, rather than the i9502, due to them being more common devices with a larger community, with no issues due to being sourced from China.
The main differences are that Caller ID works better, SVA ROM v2.5 is already rooted and you don't have to manually remove Chinese bloatware. The new procedure is actually quicker, after you have downloaded the initial files.
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Thanks. Which procedure would be more closer to the original rom?
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Thanks. Which procedure would be more closer to the original rom?
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The differences in terms of appearance and functionality are minimal between the two procedures. I recommend following the new procedure, otherwise you will have caller ID issues.
Hi folks,
like i promised i made my guidance "How to make CWM, Root and SVA on the GT-I9502" in english.
I tried to make it a little bit more step by step so that newbies can use it.
If you have questions or remarks please fell free to answer/ask in the thread that everyone can read it.
No support via PM etc.
Regards
goes like hell
What is the charging port like on the 9502? Can someone please post a close up photo of it?
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What is the charging port like on the 9502? Can someone please post a close up photo of it?
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It's the same as your I9505 (uses MicroUSB port)
dumb4ever said:
It's the same as your I9505 (uses MicroUSB port)
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That's weird. There's someone selling one on eBay and he says it has a different port.
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AMoosa said:
That's weird. There's someone selling one on eBay and he says it has a different port.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4
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Maybe it is a clone. Can you post here the link?
Enviado do meu GT-I9300 utilizando Tapatalk 4
nfribeiro said:
Maybe it is a clone. Can you post here the link?
Enviado do meu GT-I9300 utilizando Tapatalk 4
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He says the charger is like the one in this picture...
http://img.25pp.com/uploadfile/news/2013/0918/20130918041817461.jpg
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Hello guys, with your help, i think we could pressure samsung to release their ICS test builds (with RAM issues) - if they even exist in the first place.
To help, you just have to follow extremely simple steps:
STEP 1:
Enter this website..
STEP 2:
Fill all the required fields.
And insert the following in the message section (Credits to Hetalk):
Dear customer service representative
From previous conversations and official samsung updates, I understand Samsung did try to get ICS working for this device(Samsung S LCD GT-I9003).
It would be really helpful to developers, who are helping a lot of device owners, have a taste of this wonderful version of android, if samsung can help supply whatever source code they had when they tried to get ICS working for this phone.
It will also underline samsung's commitment to their customers of providing them best experience and support.
Hopefully, you will look into this and do the correct thing by supplying source codes, to make sure we stay samsung customer when we plan a new device.
Regards
<insert name here>
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Or you could be more rude (no swearing, just more aggressive), you can edit that message to suit your needs, and level of anger
STEP 3:
You'll receive an answer in about 24/48 hours.
The answer will *probably* be "We don't have plans to update the GT-I9003 to ICS.
Post the answer in this topic so we take a look at how they're reacting to the huge requests.
Now, reply to that message with the following (Credits to Hetalk):
Dear representative
Your response didn't even remotely answer my query or request.
Please read again and advise.
Regards
<insert name here>
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Here, you can also edit it to suit your needs.
STEP 4:
Wait for their answer again and post it here.
*Will update when someone reaches this step).
STEP 5:
Please share this topic with anyone that cares, upload the link in your signature, tell your friends and family!
The main key of success here is numbers, huge complaints = Samsung will probably notice us.
Good luck.
-Skander.
Worth a try.
We have nothing to lose. So we should try.
Sent from my GT-I9003 using xda premium
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
♦ classification : Mobile Phone ♦
♦ model name : GT-I9003 ♦
Dear customer,
There is not any plan to ICS upgrade for GT-I9003.
It is just file name mistake.
(These days, there are lots of ICS version that publish on website. It affect us.)
Sorry again for the confusion.
Thank you!
Sincerely yours,
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That didn't answer my question.
They want to get away from this really bad
Alright! pressure time, contact em all.
Nice idea. Give me their email id to contact them.
Less ram is just a fake reason for not providing ICS. If we observe carefully Nexus S which was produced by samsung itself has nearly same specs, same ram etc. but still it gets jellybean update officially by google. Then why not our phone...???
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Nice idea. Give me their email id to contact them.
Less ram is just a fake reason for not providing ICS. If we observe carefully Nexus S which was produced by samsung itself has nearly same specs, same ram etc. but still it gets jellybean update officially by google. Then why not our phone...???
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The problem is that ugly touchwiz.
Anyways, here's the link: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=inquiry
As per my personal experience touch wizard takes less ram as compared to go launcher ex which I always use. But still I always get nearly 220 mb free ram for usage.
Samsung is just giving us excuses for not giving ICS.
vishal24387 said:
As per my personal experience touch wizard takes less ram as compared to go launcher ex which I always use. But still I always get nearly 220 mb free ram for usage.
Samsung is just giving us excuses for not giving ICS.
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That depends, in new valuepacks, touchwiz itself shows how bad it's optimized.
They simply don't want to waste their time with our device, so getting the things they already worked on for developers is enough i guess.
Skander1998, just copy paste your question here and whoever wants to email samsung, will send that same email thru the link.
I'll change it a bit to make sure it goes thru if they could make something that would filter the standard text out.
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Email sent, albeit a fairly polite one, for a start.
Message:
According to Samsung the device won't receive an ICS update because of RAM issues, but did samsung even develop a working (or partially working) ICS build to find out the RAM issues in the first place ?
If so is there any possibilities for making those source codes open source for download?
Developers in XDA are currently porting CM9 to this device, and those sources (If even available) might be helpful to finally get a working ICS custom ROM.
I do understand that it's not Samsung's job to help with such stuff, but if the work is there sharing it would be helpful.
You can refer to this thread for the development topic on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449649
Thanks
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I tried to be polite.
I liked Hetalk's version even more, it's better, use his version below this post.
Good one. Mine wasn't that polite.
Dear customer service representative
From previous conversations and official samsung updates, I understand Samsung did try to get ICS working for this device(Samsung S LCD GT-I9003).
It would be really helpful to developers, who are helping a lot of device owners, have a taste of this wonderful version of android, if samsung can help supply whatever source code they had when they tried to get ICS working for this phone.
It will also underline samsung's commitment to their customers of providing them best experience and support.
Hopefully, you will look into this and do the correct thing by supplying source codes, to make sure we stay samsung customer when we plan a new device.
Regards
<insert name here>
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Skander1998 said:
That depends, in new valuepacks, touchwiz itself shows how bad it's optimized.
They simply don't want to waste their time with our device, so getting the things they already worked on for developers is enough i guess.
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Actually they have wasted so much time to give updates from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6 firmware update. Actually they just dont want to work on building kernel 3.x on OPAM 3630 chipset which they have rarely used for android devices. Anyway I have mailed them. I dont know how to mail in correct manner but I have used little rude language so that they should understand how much people are frustrated with samsung attitude.
Used Hetalk's version. Lets get more people to do this!
Have typed the letter in the above link...but how do i send?? Do i need to sign up??
Plz reply fast..
Sent from my GT-I9003 using xda app-developers app
skander has a link to request form few post ago
woow thats nice idea ,, i try i hope it work >>
Sent!
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Samsung's answer:
Dear customer,
Thank you for your interest in our product.
There is no plan to ICS update for GT-I9003. Because of RAM issue, we release 'Value Pack' version instead of ICS.
We forward your opinion to our developer, but please do not disappoint it will be not reflected.
Thank you! Sincerely yours,
I added a few lines more...I don't care if its rude...
Dear customer service representative
From previous conversations and official samsung updates, I understand Samsung did try to get ICS working for this device(Samsung S LCD GT-I9003). It would be really helpful to developers, who are helping a lot of device owners, have a taste of this wonderful version of android, if samsung can help supply whatever source code they had when they tried to get ICS working for this phone. It will also underline samsung's commitment to their customers of providing them best experience and support. ""We have uttermost respect for you people as one of the best developers in the world. we are not regretting the fact that you could not provide us with ics due to some insufficiency. but it will be definitely frustrating if you deny us of any help in this regard,to make a working alternate solution for this device Hopefully, you will look into this and do the correct thing by supplying source codes,so that not only we choose Samsung over apple/HTC/Acer/or any other brands but also can motivate others to move into Samsung"""....Regards
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I got a same response that skander got.
Replied with
Dear representative
Your response didn't even remotely answer my query or request.
Please read again and advise.
Regards
<insert name here>
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I would suggest you to ask for a stable value pack.
Means the stock launcher should be worked out.
I saw video of value pack for galaxy s.
That is better than us.
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Hi All
For a while I've being trying to learn the art of themming by example. Like Curious George, I try browsing the diverse works and learn from them. Unfortunately I've found some glitches that could be corrected with simple and quick actions.
Let's see one example extracted from a "XDA Recognized Themer" distribution package:
ZIP Size: 117 Mb
Unpacked: 144 Mb
"Thumbs.db": 132 files accounting for 77 Mb
53% of the distribution are useless junk files that are being flashed on users devices. This is wrong!
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We all know that themming is hard, laborious and a huge time consuming. Nevertheless is important that we do take care about what we are distributing. There are cases too where graphics that never existed on that app are being injected.
My shallow knowledge on android app's don't give me any authority to say but it I wonder if this injections are increasing the apps footprint on memory/caches slowing down the systems.
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The increase of app's size has been already corroborated with this experiment. At moment, lasts the question if this can be harmful indeed. For devices with limited memory space, wouldn't this compromise the system performance?
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As pat of the research, the following question was made and with the usual supportiveness, Master @JustArchi provided the final enlightenment to the matter
[KERNEL DEV ANALYSIS] Does 'Junked' APKs Affects Performance ?
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APK is some kind of an archive, which contains precompiled source (classes.dex) and resources (resources.arsc and everything else).
Not-loaded parts of the archive (f.e. thumbs.db) are not affecting ram, neither performance because Android doesn't load them at all.
In the best scenario, apk may load a bit longer, but this "a bit" is less than 0.1 sec. This is ONLY due to uncompressing apk needed for loading classes and resources.
So yeah, mostly we're talking about storage space here.
Hope it helps .
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Motivated by this assumption, a tiny tool to help developers and users get their themes clean of these files, was developed:
[THEME][TOOL WIN][DEV & END-USER] The Dethumber™ Pro (as seen on TV)
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Conclusion
As the matter were previously plainly unknown, just this shallow discussion has been suffice to enlighten the main points and create a piece of the knowledge base that future developers may consider useful.
We could determine that:
> "Thumbs.db" like files are been created by unnoticed themers using the Windows operating system and distributed inside their theme packages.
> Users are flashing these files without noticing their existence.
> Villain Flash System (vrtheme) is the most used tool by themers to distribute their works and, as expected, insert those files into the apk's regardless their previous existence. A fork project Universal Theme Flasher can the desired behaviour but ONLY if the UFT.config flag CLEAN_MORPHING is set to YES.
> As previously stated, what regard devices performance there is no perceivable compromise.
> Until the quality of the releases improves, the problem is restrict to storage and distribution sizes.
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So, if you really care about your "customers" please take this problem seriously. It won't take you more than 30 seconds to correct.
Source and Solutions to the problem:
Wikipedia: Windows thumbnail cache
What are Thumbs.db Files and Can I Delete Them?
How to Switch Off the Thumbs.db Image Cache File in Windows
Users: Please reinforce this information with your fellow Theme Developer to guarantee the quality of the work you are receiving. The voice of the customer can and will make the difference.
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Nice regards and good work.
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Kdio said:
"Thumbs.db": 132 files accounting for 77 Mb
53% of the distribution are useless junk files that are being flashed on users devices. This is wrong!
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I've already seen these files within several themes here on the forum ... I thought it was OK.
Will try to pay more attention on what I'm flashing on mu device.
Tks for the notice.
Just my two cents here....now a days a Theme is almost never for a single device. what is redundant to you is actually themable and frequently used in another phone, say the GN3.
Now, when a themer makes a theme, he won't work separately on SGS4 and the GN3, or the Xperia Z and the ZL,ZR etc. He will release a composite theme for all.
Heres my solution since you have taken so much pain to actually unzip and look into the themables, use some photo editing software (like paint.net, if you want a lightweight alternative) to chalk out the unneeded themed pngs and chuck them out (or delete them altogether) and then clear off the vr-theme data from your internal memory.
this is just my opinion.
and oh, another thing! the themers here are no "VENDORS".The themers devote time for "free" and mostly as a hobby. so, in case something is not liked, taking the theme and modifying to the liking is the optimal solution.
just my two cents, have been around xda for quite sometime and felt like something to be said here.
sorry if I bothered someone, didn't mean to.
regards,
Achyut.
Hi achyut
Tks a lot for your words. As a xda rule of thumb, this is and always will be an open discussion and every different opinion is important.
achyut said:
now a days a Theme is almost never for a single device. what is redundant to you is actually themable and frequently used in another phone, say the GN3.
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This is not the central point but I'm really skeptical on submitting to my users things that will never be used. Just to illustrate, it's like you bought a brand new S4 and the seller gives you a wonderful S3 cover. What's for? That is junk for you and you will get rid of it as soon as possible. That's just my point and, as I've said, theming is difficult.
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... since you have taken so much pain to actually unzip and look into the themables, ...
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Think you misunderstood me. I don't call it "pain". I call it learning.
achyut said:
use some photo editing software (like paint.net, if you want a lightweight alternative) to chalk out the unneeded themed pngs and chuck them out (or delete them altogether) and then clear off the vr-theme data from your internal memory.
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I do prefer Gimp but I think that again you misunderstood me. I don't browse others themers works to copy. It's just learning. You may, if you wish, verify that on my attempts on theming.
achyut said:
and oh, another thing! the themers here are no "VENDORS".The themers devote time for "free" and mostly as a hobby. so, in case something is not liked, taking the theme and modifying to the liking is the optimal solution.
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Third time but this is on me. I didn't quite made myself clear to you.
What I've meant about "Customers" is the approach you have with your users. The work I do here on xda is completely altruist as I do have the support from my outside paid Customers. Nevertheless, I do interact with my xda users as they were real Customers because as a 50 years old IT engineer, I can't deal with them differently (don't know how to). This is my point of view but isn't the main subject here.
If you could express yourself about the "Thumbs.db" files problem, I would be very thankful.
Nice regards.
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@op (kdio):
I'll reply to you here instead of by pm (sorry I have no time for myself these days...)
The thumbs.db problem you've seen -where more than half the packaged theme data consists of those Microsoft thumbnails database files- is just plain unbelievable to me. How can someone -who is surely an experienced themer in making a 100MB+ theme- not realize this issue? I wonder.
Anyhow, I do agree to a certain extent with achyut in the sense we should not complain too much about stuff that is given to us for free. I'm not accusing you to do so, but posting this post at three different places on xda and addressing the issue in a general/public way might not be the best way to tackle the issue.
Btw, I remember while being at my very firsts steps in theming, I did post something very similar on a popular xda theme engine guide thread (I might have deleted it since though - will look for link later..) : suggesting the author to add a note on the OP about those files and how to remove them. Well, no one on that thread cared to reply/comment on it - like if it was a non-issue... So I gave up thinking that it only bothered me....
Themes are usually not open-source and are just shared "as is". They are also much easier to "inspect" than apks and having a look at/into whatever we install on our phones is surely a good practice and also always highly advisable... And so is accepting users' critics and bug reports positively for the themers/developers.
So that was going to be my suggestion to you anyway: whenever something like this is noted, it would be better to first try to see with the themer if this can be corrected. If that turns out to be unsuccessful or ignored, one could then try to ask a forum moderator and ask his/her view on it. Maybe, he/she can then add a special note/warning on the theme's OP or take any other action they might deem appropriate in the circumstances.
Again, I do not want to go against what you've done here; I understand that you have good intentions. But I think that there's no need to tackle this fight globally and singlehandedly; better go on a case by case basis.
The good news is that I believe that thumbs.db files will 'eventually' not be an issue with themes. I'd have to triple check this, but I believe that since I've switched to Windows 8, I no longer have to delete those files before compiling my personal theme and I haven't seen any such files within my signed apk either...
Anyhow, long answer for not much valuable input from me in the end, but that's how I see it anyway...
Good luck, happy new year and keep on theming!!
Cheers,
/AL
[to all: please do not full-quote my long posts - ty]
Hi @[] AL []
Thank you very much for yours valuable words. From my view it's a milestone reached.
Before posting here, For a long time I'm trying to elucidate this issue. My first action was on 30th July when I've posted this question regarding exactly the same issue. No answers (0). I've tried too PM's to the dev's and even posting in the respective threads. I've just got these effectless responses (same as you've did):
I mean no harm.
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I don't see them.
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Next step, as you've suggested, I've PM'ed 2 Recognized users (one was you) about the issue and this thread was only opened after I've been suggested to. Placed those 3 because S3 and S4 forums are where I have my relationships and it would be nice to the 'buddies'. Android Theme is the main. Nevertheless, there are only few cross-forum-readers in here so...
Please, be welcome to, if considered inappropriate, delete these threads. I, by myself, know what is happening and would never flash something like this on my devices. My main concern is with the ones with shallow knowledge that will continue blind to the matter. As we both had already experienced, no one is given a damn to it.
Just forgive an old man that after 28 years as a software developers struggling hard to create quality code, thought that the professionalism should had already permeated all the IT world. I was wrong.
Even if this thread goes off, please keep my sincerely thanks.
Nice regards.
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OFF TOPIC
Just wanna place 2 question here to all IT workers ... no need for answers as this should be considered OT
- Call Can we really be foolish as this with IT resources ?
- Can't we learn a bit from the mess we did with the real life ?
Nice regards.
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@Kdio:
Well, I didn't know that you did try to ask the themers and that they did nothing about it. Saying that they don't see them tells me that they must know ****e about many things... Might be worth to try again by explaining them how to show Windows hidden and system protected files this time....
I'm curious to see such a theme; any link you could give me?
Regarding the 3 identical posts, I do not care much about that; I've just mentioned it because this is part of xda guidelines and so is the one suggesting to not take matters in our own hands. Although, that last one is more intended for times when there are disagreements/arguments between users.
What I suggested you to contact a thread moderator, not recognised users. Recognized themers and contributors have no special authority or powers here; they're just regular users that have been nominated by their fellow members as 'special' participants. There is nothing more that they can do other than preaching by example...
To contact a mod, the easiest way is to view the incriminating thread on a desktop browser and hit the top right button "report" while on the OP. You can then explain what the issue is and see what the moderator will choose to do about it.
I checked again earlier while updating my theme, and again on Win8, I do not see any such files. Does that explain the answers you got from the themer? I don't know but that's one more reason why I'm curious to download such a theme to find out. But if the files are in there, I'd guess that they did use WinXP or something prior to Win8 anyway as those ought to be created before the theme is compiled....
I'm kind of worry though about the very few (and the kind of) responses you got; what would it be if it was malware included? People would also keep a blind eye? Scarry!! But I have to say that lately I did see a xda moderator closing down a custom rom thread until further revew over concerns of included spyware/adware... So my suggestion still holds and it shows they (mods) do care about (and can act upon) such issue...
Nevertheless, it's nice to see that some people worry about such issues (so thanks for that) and I hope that your journey will bring positive results... even if it has to be one themer at a time...
/AL
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Might be worth to try again by explaining them how to show Windows hidden and system protected files this time...
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It's at OP
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I'm curious to see such a theme; any link you could give me?
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PM'ed you ... but it got worst ... now the distribution package is composed of 67% of those useless junkies
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What I suggested you to contact a thread moderator, ...
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Sent you a Moderator thread with those junkies too ... Should this be considered a dead end ?
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I checked again earlier while updating my theme, and again on Win8, ...
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Sorry AL but I don't quite see this as an solution. Shall we wait untill then ?
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I'm kind of worry though about the very few (and the kind of) responses you got;
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I'm frighten dude. The 3 thread together sum 876 views and we've got only these replies here !!! The only themer that, al least, thanked the OP was @HS™ !!! (not even you !!! )
But I'm confident that, as the matter had never been openly addressed here on xda, at least now it has. Not for my profile but sure it will be good for the community.
And one more thought: One would never accept useless parts inside his device. This same one would never accept an app with junk code inside. Why themes should be different?
For a long time I've been seeing here on xda the incubation of great developers. So I ask myself how these theme designers are being prepared to the professional world. Will they, in their future works, act like that or this disregard for a minimum quality control is just the result of the gratuity?
Nice regards.
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I hope that your journey will bring positive results...
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Hi [] AL [] and all
Just to let you all know that I've just released a tool to windows themers that somewhat can be useful on this matter:
[THEME][TOOL WINDOWS][FREE] The Dethumber™ Pro (as seen on TV)
Nice regards.
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Hello mr. @Kdio
I see all your post since#1 and love your response and your objective to help everyone get rid of some junks away from their work (themer) or their phone (users)
Want to thank you for this. And hope you will keep on. I will tell all my friends to see this thread .
best regards..
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Hello mr. @Kdio
I see all your post since#1 and love your response and your objective to help everyone get rid of some junks away from their work (themer) or their phone (users)
Want to thank you for this. And hope you will keep on. I will tell all my friends to see this thread .
best regards..
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Hi pas2001
Your words are very appreciated and makes me believe that there will be some light at the end of the tunnel.
I've been following your amazing work with batts and boot animations so, these words coming from you are a real honour for me.
Thank you very much sir.
Nice regards.
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There is a point that needs to be made here, while I agree that everyone wants to and should be flashing clean error free files, whether its PNG.9s or XMLS.........
BUT regarding "junk files" or files that are not needed, it doesn't really matter to much if your using VRTheme (which most of us do), this method will only flash files that match stock system files, you could have 100 useless PNGS for example but unless they match the stock ones they will simply be overlooked by the script and wont flash, this method causes way less errors and makes it almost universal too (excluding xmls of course).
A themer should really tidy his files up (no excuse for 100 files dragged over from another device theme for example) but the only real downside, apart from been untidy would be the actual size of the file and the extra unnecessary time it takes to download.
Just a side note, Im going to move this to general soon as only actual themes or apps are allowed in this sub forum.
Very nice topic thread though :good:
Hi Rixta
Thank you for your supportive words.
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BUT regarding "junk files" or files that are not needed, it doesn't really matter to much if your using VRTheme (which most of us do), this method will only flash files that match stock system files, you could have 100 useless PNGS for example but unless they match the stock ones they will simply be overlooked by the script and wont flash, this method causes way less errors and makes it almost universal too (excluding xmls of course).
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I would like to suggest the below experiment:
1) Download View attachment Thumbs.Experiment.zip. It contains one lonely "Thumbs.db" file with 1 byte long inside SystemUI.apk\drawable\drawable-xxhdpi
2) Flash the file
3) After reboot, take a look at that folder inside SystemUI.apk.
Can you confirm the above behaviour ?
Looking at my devices result, unfortunately seems that vrTheme should but is not that smart.
Anything given to vrtheme will be injected regardless previous existence. As so, all those 'junk' (mostly Thumbs.db) files are indeed been flashed to users devices.
As I've said before, after working 28 years as a software developer, I'm unable to call this different than a severe error.
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If your argumentation was valid, we will be unable to implement 1% battery awareness as vrtheme would not be capable of flashing the complimentary icons (1, 2, 3...) as they were not previously inside SystemUI. So, vrtheme is right and does what it's meant to.
EDIT 2: With the amazing help of @xxmrgreenxx starting here, he pointed out that Universal Theme Flasher can have the behaviour you've mentioned but ONLY if the UFT.config flag CLEAN_MORPHING is set to YES.
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Just a side note, Im going to move this to general soon as only actual themes or apps are allowed in this sub forum.
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This would lead this theme matter to disappear under the ostracism but this is an moderator prerogative.
Nice regards.
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i found 259 *.db files im my theme.
great, Thanks
aki-saar said:
i found 259 *.db files im my theme.
great, Thanks
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wow
Kdio said:
Hi Rixta
Thank you for your supportive words.
I would like to suggest the below experiment:
1) Download View attachment 2552719. It contains one lonely "Thumbs.db" file with 1 byte long inside SystemUI.apk\drawable\drawable-xxhdpi
2) Flash the file
3) After reboot, take a look at that folder inside SystemUI.apk.
Can you confirm the above behaviour ?
Looking at my devices result, unfortunately seems that vrTheme should but is not that smart.
Anything given to vrtheme will be injected regardless previous existence. As so, all those 'junk' (mostly Thumbs.db) files are indeed been flashed to users devices.
As I've said before, after working 28 years as a software developer, I'm unable to call this different than a severe error.
EDIT: (sorry ... this came to mind lately)
If your argumentation was valid, we will be unable to implement 1% battery awareness as vrtheme would not be capable of flashing the complimentary icons (1, 2, 3...) as they were not previously inside SystemUI. So, vrtheme is right and does what it's meant to.
EDIT 2: With the amazing help of @xxmrgreenxx starting here, he pointed out that Universal Theme Flasher can have the behaviour you've mentioned but ONLY if the UFT.config flag CLEAN_MORPHING is set to YES.
This would lead this theme matter to disappear under the ostracism but this is an moderator prerogative.
Nice regards.
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Seems your right, very good and valid points.
We're going to allow this thread to stay in this forum
Thanks again.
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We're going to allow this thread to stay in this forum
Thanks again.
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Please pin it too if possible mate.
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Please pin it too if possible mate.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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It doesn't warrant a sticky at the moment, I will of course review this in due course.
Thank you
I been trying to figure out what is wrong, but I keep finding the same answers, which doesn't work for me.
I've been trying to get Google Now voice commands to work. I'm in Denmark, but have changed the setting to English (US). When I go to Google Now and say "OK Google", voice command is activated and listening. It seems it easily understands what I'm saying, but saying any of these commands does not really work: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2842392?hl=en .
When I say it, Google just does a regular Google search - but again, no problem understanding my dialect. The only things I can do is to get it to do calling and opening apps (have tried many of the commands in the example.
How can this be? Anyone got a solution?
Furthermore, I don't get any of these beutiful cards when searching, only when I go to Google Now before doing the voice command.
Thank - any help is much appriciated as I've been using so much time working this thing out
Really no one who can help with this?
Think I forgot the specs. I'm running a HTC One (2013) with Android 4.4.2 on stock ROM.
Sendt fra min HTC One med Tapatalk
Bump.
Having exactly the same problem. LG optimus G e975 with 4.1.2 stock rom. Also Denmark.
Bump for help with this awesome feature
Sorry but bump
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Sorry but bump
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I guess bumping means something along the lines of "Here's a reply to get it back to the top to gain attention". Sounds like a fair think when the post is of such an importance!
Seems Denmark once again gained that attractive position as the 236th most important country in the eyes of OS developers (danish irony for those who didn't know ). Maybe it's time for a scandinavian based OS :victory:
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I guess bumping means something along the lines of "Here's a reply to get it back to the top to gain attention". Sounds like a fair think when the post is of such an importance!
Seems Denmark once again gained that attractive position as the 236th most important country in the eyes of OS developers (danish irony for those who didn't know ). Maybe it's time for a scandinavian based OS :victory:
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Yeah. Bring Up My Post is what a bump is. Oh, and here's another
Obviously no solution for this when you live in Denmark
Fast and Stable.Plzz
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Detail in answer is based on impression left by the question ...
The best help requests start by saying what the user has already tried to solve the problem, so after reading your question, 'plzzz' don't mind if I base my reply on assuming you've got no idea how to go about this. And, that's OK!
Do a search for NeedROM and go to that site, first.
ROMs are very specific for the hardware they're being flashed to. Some manufacturers with use the same model number and but make small hardware upgrades without changing the model. NeedROM is very good for this, often showing photos of identification beneath the battery -- all this must be identical to what you see, on your phone.
The same ROM may be available from other sources, but often with enough missing information that you're still not exactly sure if its OK.
If the ROM isn't a perfect match, you can 'brick' your phone. If you're careful, you phone will again be like new. :good:
What is A50? You need to be more specifics
Hi,
I recieved one as a gift but obviously since it's Chinese bought with the firmware and lack of Google services, I can't use it. Can anyone help with this? Thanks.
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Hi,
What´s the modelnumber of your phone? Do you mean T-mobile in the US? We need a little bit more info to help.
I think the Chinese S8 is the Exynos version, which means that it´s missing certain freqencies for the USA. So you could use it in the US, but you would have worse networkreception.
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Hi,
What´s the modelnumber of your phone? Do you mean T-mobile in the US? We need a little bit more info to help.
I think the Chinese S8 is the Exynos version, which means that it´s missing certain freqencies for the USA. So you could use it in the US, but you would have worse networkreception.
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Thanks for responding!
Model number is simply the Chinese one, G550. It doesn't use the Exynos, at least it doesn't say that on GSMARENA. Yes I mean TMobile in the US. I guess that should be fine; I asked in other places and people have told me the bands match up. I'm kind of a noob, but I don't think the technical parts are the problem, I just need like the US version of android so I can get Google play services.
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Thanks for responding!
Model number is simply the Chinese one, G550. It doesn't use the Exynos, at least it doesn't say that on GSMARENA. Yes I mean TMobile in the US. I guess that should be fine; I asked in other places and people have told me the bands match up. I'm kind of a noob, but I don't think the technical parts are the problem, I just need like the US version of android so I can get Google play services.
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OK, it uses the same Hardware as the US Model, that´s good. Maybe this thread will help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817
I didn´t read the whole thread, maybe somebody had the same question already.
By the way: Your modelnumber should either be: "SM-G9550" or "SM-G9558". A G550 is a whole different Phone
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OK, it uses the same Hardware as the US Model, that´s good. Maybe this thread will help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817
I didn´t read the whole thread, maybe somebody had the same question already.
By the way: Your modelnumber should either be: "SM-G9550" or "SM-G9558". A G550 is a whole different Phone
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Sorry for the late response. The thread mentions that it's only for US phones though, does that actually matter?
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Sorry for the late response. The thread mentions that it's only for US phones though, does that actually matter?
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Well, I don´t know if that really matters. I suggest you ask the OP of that thread about your problem.
BTW: Isn´t it possible to install the Play Store on your device? Then you could use most google services.
EDIT: I just stumbled upon this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74014241&postcount=294 This user seams to have the same model as you do and he/her managed to at least install magisk, so you schould send him a message and ask him/her what to do
EDIT2: I found this whole Thread for you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/samsung-galaxy-s8--s8-cross-device-development/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-s8-snapdragon-t3636718
It´s almost too obvious to find