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I'm trying now to cook my first rom for the kaiser. I've enjoyed trying other ROMs here, but basically I just want to take all the apps and settings I like best from others and put them together into one, without the things I don't use. I'm not doing it to be a 'chef', just to make my device work best for me.
Based on that, when I have a version I'm satisfied with and will be using, should I upload it to share, or just keep it to myself? Based on alex's comments on the Rom Kitchen pages, it looks like he'd prefer everyone just make their own, without sharing.
I think sharing something like this is perfectly fine as long as you give credit to who did the upfront work on the base you started with, the oem packages you used etc. Just be prepared that if you do share, you will instantly have a thread to "support".
One of the guys in the Wizard forum didn't want to deal with supporting his creation so he just put a link in his sig for the latest build he was using. Then if someone wanted to download and try it they could, but there was no "official" support for it since it was a personal "reheated" rom. I'm sure he got PM's directly.
So really your call and good luck with the cooking. More addicting than flashing IMO...
I'm not sure how I'll do on the cooking, it doesn't seem too complicated with the various tools that are out there, but just re-flashing over and over to find something isn't right or got missed is going to quickly become a pain.
I'm left thinking maybe I should take another look at auto installers as well. I may be better off to use a speedy Lite rom and setup the autoinstaller to make things easy after a flash. Hmm....
you will get lots of 'white mouses' for free by sharing ur ROM here.... lol
If you realy want to be good you need feedback, and what is bether than thousens of us flashaholics and want-to-be-cheffs to give you just that mister?
Full Function 2.1 AOSP "like" rom using DarchLegendv4.1_AOSP STYLE!!!!!!!!!ENJOY
For those of you out there that want aosp+cam I read alot of threads here and i know im not the only one that wanted this....Heres how I did it:
NOTE:This method WILL NOT WORK with launcher2. It CRASHES everything!!!
1)Wipe
2)Flash DarchLegendv4.1
3)Reboot
4)DL Helix (or use Home)
5)Disable Sense default
6)Choose Helix or Home(sense will NOT work)
7)Push LiveWallPaperPicker.apk to system apps
8)Push LiveWallPaper.apk to system apps
9)ADB Reboot Recovery
10)Flash the following update zip for AOSP bar(plus you get a sweet pearl rosie) http://www.4shared.com/get/243892390/d77fb176/DarchLegendV4_WhiteRosieTaskba.html
11)Optional#1):To get nexus mod. dl this file:http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294834&d=1268802202...next open the zip and follow the directions below (disregard the launcher2 file)
adb remount
adb push <location of libRS.so> /system/lib
adb push <location of librs_jni.so> /system/lib
adb reboot
12)Optional#2): To get starfield,settings/150stars or less & it will start working!
FINALLY ENJOY YOUR NEW AOSP-like2.1, I Know I AM. Darch is awesome
thanks for the guide, but this is mainly just like a AOSP skin, it just *looks* like AOSP, the htc framework is still there with all their funky apps and backround services right?
That's the part I like the best, the general cleanliness of AOSP. Thanks though, I'll try it out.
Not just a skin
Actually, darch made this rom too. And THIS legend version i really like because of all the possibilities, i'm making my own version as we speak to include all of this stuff. But no, its not just a skin. I wouldnt go thru the effort of typing long instructions like that for just a skin. Give it a try, trust me. Youll thank me later
This is not "full function AOSP."
This is great, and will hold me over until a true AOSP 2.1 is developed. Thanks for the info.
Let Me Know AFTER You Try It.....
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This is not "full function AOSP."
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AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself. If you dont want to try it and it doesnt appeal to you then dont bother to post. I put in alot of effort to get this to work for the ppl that DO want this. Ive seen too many of your posts and their negative nature. Id rather you not post in my threads please. Im putting effort forth to help others like myself get the most out of their devices, not to dampen their spirits or argue like a child. Im sure even you can appreciate my goal. Thank you.
Glad to Hear it...
josue85 said:
This is great, and will hold me over until a true AOSP 2.1 is developed. Thanks for the info.
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Glad you liked it. Im waiting for that AOSP 2.1 as well. Cant wait!!.But this is pretty cool for now.....Thanks
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AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself. If you dont want to try it and it doesnt appeal to you then dont bother to post. I put in alot of effort to get this to work for the ppl that DO want this. Ive seen too many of your posts and their negative nature. Id rather you not post in my threads please. Im putting effort forth to help others like myself get the most out of their devices, not to dampen their spirits or argue like a child. Im sure even you can appreciate my goal. Thank you.
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By your own standards, my opinion is valid since I have tried this as is evidenced by this picture I posted 2 days ago here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5896331&postcount=488 and again yesterday after the Nexus news herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5918537&postcount=517. My only issue is that this is indeed a skin. Well, a skinned home replacement app. The "AOSP" taskbar is just modded HTC framework, and Helix is just as app. Everything else runs on HTC software, and is no way AOSP. Clearly you can see that I enjoy this look by the referenced links, but I think you should be more responsible with your labeling and call it what it is. Some people who dont understand the difference between a HTC ROM and an AOSP will be misled into thinking this is something its clearly not. I just think it should be labeled what it actually is in the thread description, and not bannered as something that does not exist.
EDIT- Also, there is no need to push the lib files to DarchLegend. Theyre already in the ROM when you download it.
Where can one find LiveWallPaper.apk and LiveWallPaperPicker.apk?
agree
I would have tried this had I not read this information
thanks
not AOSP
Simply put, this is not AOSP. AOSP has a different codebase which does not contain the HTC frameworks. Even without Rosie running, the frameworks will take up memory. That said, I have been working on a rom (which recently got deleted ). This rom will be the 2.1 Sense rom but without anything Sense related. I am going to try to remove the HTC frameworks but I can't guarantee that. At the very least it will look and act like AOSP 2.1. The difference between that one and this one is that everything Sense related will be removed including Rosie, widgets and the Sense services such as social network provider, etc. They all eat up memory which slows down the phone.
MagnusRagnarok said:
Actually, darch made this rom too. And THIS legend version i really like because of all the possibilities, i'm making my own version as we speak to include all of this stuff. But no, its not just a skin. I wouldnt go thru the effort of typing long instructions like that for just a skin. Give it a try, trust me. Youll thank me later
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no I completely understand what this is and does, I'm not arguing that it's like a skin for a home replacement. My argument is that all the background stuff is still there, all the htc framework for the radio to work, settings, all that crap.
Darch doesn't replace all the "guts" of the htc build to that of the AOSP, he just ports someone's system dump to another phone. I don't do this for a living so I can't go into it any more than that, and I only say things I'm fairly certain are true, so if I go any deeper I'd probably be talking out my butt.
I'm glad to see a new face in the lines of development and hope to try out your custom build when you release it. You sound a little confrontational right now so I'm just going to leave it at that. cheers.
NM I found your other post with the live wallpaper files
/showthread.php?t=647699
SARS
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snip... I have been working on a rom (which recently got deleted ). This rom will be the 2.1 Sense rom but without anything Sense related. I am going to try to remove the HTC frameworks but I can't guarantee that. At the very least it will look and act like AOSP 2.1. The difference between that one and this one is that everything Sense related will be removed including Rosie, widgets and the Sense services such as social network provider, etc. They all eat up memory which slows down the phone.
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This is something I've been waiting on since the first custom rom came out, someone who found a way to remove senceUI, roseie, and all the htc crap. Very much looking forward to this sir.
MagnusRagnarok said:
AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself.
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I have no opinion on it. Merely stating a fact.
I'm sure it's a very nice skin/whatever, and that you've put a lot of work into it and that some people want it and like it. I am simply suggesting that you don't call it "full function 2.1 AOSP" because it is absolutely not. IMO that's an insult to the Open Source Project, and it is highly misleading to people who are not as well informed about it as others.
yea id be pretty salty if i went to the honda dealership because i needed a hybrid to save on gas and when i got home and looked under the hood of my brand new hybrid only to find a carburated v8 that gets 6 miles to the gallon.. IMO thats what this is like the theme is fine and all that but its not a aosp rom
Thanks for the positivity...
jonnythan said:
I have no opinion on it. Merely stating a fact.
I'm sure it's a very nice skin/whatever, and that you've put a lot of work into it and that some people want it and like it. I am simply suggesting that you don't call it "full function 2.1 AOSP" because it is absolutely not. IMO that's an insult to the Open Source Project, and it is highly misleading to people who are not as well informed about it as others.
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Thanks for the constructive criticism,i really appreciate it. I didnt see this coming. Also; i should not have assumed that because i actually put the rom i was using in the thread title everyone would KNOW it was not android open source project framework. I was trying to create a workaround for anybody that wanted AOSP "feel" i guess. The best way to describe it is not what i was trying to do. I was trying to appeal to the ppl that liked the Darchdroid aosp2.1 as much as i did. Except here you get cam and camcorder. THIS IS NOT AOSP FRAMEWORK ITS HTC. But then again everyone upset about this already knows that. Trying to help the community, not confuse the less knowledgable
SORRY ALL
Apologies to all Sorry if i upset anyone with this thread. That was not my intent. I have been here a while and i thought my thread title would have eliminated all of this. aosp style. I have not figured out how to mix aosp with legend framework. Thus my title. I thought everyone here knew what this was by reading the title. I am sorry if i mislead anyone, and you were disappointed by what you read. I will be even more specific with my titling in the future to avoid issues like this. I dont need to be scolded for thinking this was AOSP, because i didnt. IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING, THIS IS NOT REALLY AOSP FRAMEWORK. Sorry for the disappointment and any confusion i caused. My goal here is to contribute to the community that i learn so much from, when i come up with something new.
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aauussttiinn88 said:
yea id be pretty salty if i went to the honda dealership because i needed a hybrid to save on gas and when i got home and looked under the hood of my brand new hybrid only to find a carburated v8 that gets 6 miles to the gallon.. IMO thats what this is like the theme is fine and all that but its not a aosp rom
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Good point with the cars and all. One big difference though....roms are free.Also,anything you do can be undone. Ive dl'd roms that didnt even boot,
so how mad could you be? I wasnt aware that everyone wanted like aosp on the inside, i dont have that yet. Thats just the outside for now. Took a little less than a day. I am butchering 2 of the new roms i like best. I hear alot of ppl love sense and alot of ppl love aosp. I was trying to appeal to both crowds in a superficial way of sorts. I am hard @ work trying to cook what is wanted @ this point now that i hear it. Thanks
MagnusRagnarok said:
AOSP-like. And your opinion does not become valid until you try it yourself. If you dont want to try it and it doesnt appeal to you then dont bother to post. I put in alot of effort to get this to work for the ppl that DO want this. Ive seen too many of your posts and their negative nature. Id rather you not post in my threads please. Im putting effort forth to help others like myself get the most out of their devices, not to dampen their spirits or argue like a child. Im sure even you can appreciate my goal. Thank you.
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What effort have you put in? It is not like it is difficult. I have been doing this sense stock 1.5. All your instructions are from already existing threads. People know you disable Sense and use Home. People also know that you can install the Nexus launcher.
Overall another useless thread with regurgitated information.
For now those are the only places I've found on the internet that really try to do something about our phone. They're in chinese but google translator can get the general meaning. Registration is free and guys over there are really supportive. Go on and have a try. They already have a clean chinese/english 6.5 rom. It's not perfect but it looks like they're going somewhere...
http://www.i3x.cc/forumdisplay.php?fid=60&page=1
http://www.zn520.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=24
If we gonna get enough people over there asking about clean ROM and other stuff maybe someone will give a damn about us.
Cheers.
I was thinking. A while ago I had very interesting conversatiion with guy called Nokser (he's developer contributing to this forum). What he told me was that he would be able to make a clean ROM out of original AT&T's WM6.5.
Now a "but". There's always a "but" isn't there ?
He said he would but he won't 'cause he lacks time. Everybody has to make a living and he can't afford to waste time for something not profitable especially when he's loaded with work. (Well OK. It's not what he told me literally but everyone can read between the lines, right?).
You have probably seen kitchens he made and you are quite aware he made life of at least few of you easier
OK, let's get to the point. Taking under consideration fact he made sucessfully i.a. i600 ROM probably he would be our (Jack's users) best bet for making i637 clean rom.
Like I said no one likes to work for free. My idea is to make small donations so he can finally help us and develop new rom.
I think it's the best idea and only one available right now.
What do YOU think guys and gals?
I'm pretty sure Nokser would like it. And I'm not trying to advertise or something...God forbid. I'm just trying to make mine and yours life easier and happier.
Have a good one! Cheers!
mykail
nice that would be cool for him to do that .but if he those make a rom add htc icons or iphone icons and change taskbar like htc phone.
Collin_ph here. I've been working for literally months trying to get my battery tweak on the android market. The problem is that I don't do front end java development.. or should I say, I never have done it before. I have 2 full time jobs as a developer and a business owner and really don't have time to learn another language and framework. I'd LOVE to work with someone who A. is Experienced, and B. Has the time to work on something like this.
The next version really is going to be great, I just think it's time to get it on the marketplace so it's compatible with more than just certain ROMS on the Hero. I know it's technically possible.. I know the ins and outs of making it work, I'm just way behind on making a pure android app. If anyone really really wants to help, let me know. I'm wanting to make a profitable app on the market, and I want someone who'll share in the vision and the profits. There'll always be a free version, especially for XDA users. If you're interested, please PM me. This will make 3 times I'll be starting over because developers don't really have time to work on the project. If you're like me, you know this has potential.
Let's do it
collin_ph, will there be a shell script version of new battery tweak too, yes?
i think shell script is efficient and stable enough for me and i don't want to install an android java app.
love your tweak!!
collin_ph said:
Collin_ph here. I've been working for literally months trying to get my battery tweak on the android market. The problem is that I don't do front end java development.. or should I say, I never have done it before. I have 2 full time jobs as a developer and a business owner and really don't have time to learn another language and framework. I'd LOVE to work with someone who A. is Experienced, and B. Has the time to work on something like this.
The next version really is going to be great, I just think it's time to get it on the marketplace so it's compatible with more than just certain ROMS on the Hero. I know it's technically possible.. I know the ins and outs of making it work, I'm just way behind on making a pure android app. If anyone really really wants to help, let me know. I'm wanting to make a profitable app on the market, and I want someone who'll share in the vision and the profits. There'll always be a free version, especially for XDA users. If you're interested, please PM me. This will make 3 times I'll be starting over because developers don't really have time to work on the project. If you're like me, you know this has potential.
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jasonmaloney said:
Let's do it
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LOL, with JM throwing his hat in the ring, you KNOW you're gonna have a winner!
A huge thanks to both of you guys!
In the long run, I really don't have any plans to continue the shell version. There are a lot of misconceptions about the shell version-- a lot of people think that there is no process that continues running, however, there is. I have a plan to have a very similar setup with the java version that should still have a small cpu and memory footprint.. possibly even smaller CPU usage as the Java version can be event based rather than timer based. Anyway, just know that I will do whatever possible to make the program fulfill its need the best and most efficient way possible. With Java, we can be usable on more than just a hero without having to port it every time, we can run on different roms without porting, we'll be able to run more things event based and remove most of the timer based things (if not all), and lastly, we'll be able to do things that we weren't able to do in shell. I'm excited for the new version, but as always, it's job is to make the phone faster and give it better battery performance. The new version will most likely be called "tweak tool", as Battery optimization will be only one of its functions, but the most important.
Anyway, after Easter, I'll be sitting down and going over a plan for the new version (once more). Hopefully we'll get a full blown launch out of this attempt.
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With Java, we can be usable on more than just a hero without having to port it every time
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I say Hooah!!
Haha. I'm excitied. Hopefully you two will join together. This is gonna be outstanding! Ha. Yea I know I'll shut up.
I'll have to learn how to write Android apps. Already know Java.
Can't be that hard after modifying Android source, right?
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I'll have to learn how to write Android apps. Already know Java.
Can't be that hard after modifying Android source, right?
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If you set up Eclipse, there is a lot of help/examples available. App Inventor is another tool that might be an option, perhaps less flexibility, but a "block" oriented approach that does a lot of the work for you.
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If you set up Eclipse, there is a lot of help/examples available. App Inventor is another tool that might be an option, perhaps less flexibility, but a "block" oriented approach that does a lot of the work for you.
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I've tried appinventor and as a developer, it feels totally bass ackwards. I'm no java developer, but I've already put together a couple of tests in eclipse, which is the direction I want to go-- especially since I'll be doing everything in my power to make sure it's optimized.
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I'll have to learn how to write Android apps. Already know Java.
Can't be that hard after modifying Android source, right?
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Holy crap, if you AND jaybob are going to help collin_ph, this app is as good as gold. You two are by far two of the most dedicated and steadfast devs I've ever known on XDA.
Excited to see what comes out of this, happily willing to buy any app that comes out of it as support
So I've been using iPhone for quite a while and recently got this Vibrant from a family member who didn't need it anymore. I've got to say, I'm really enjoying it.
I always played around theming my iPhone and using the Cydia tweaks and thought I knew what I was doing for the most part. So after getting this phone, I figured I would install some custom roms until I found something I want to stick with.
The thing is, there are tons of them, and since it's a kind of old phone I'd like some advice. Maybe to give me an idea of a few great roms.
I started by reading a lot on the web, and downgrading from Froyo to Eclair. Then I installed the Asgard JVP rom. I like it, but it appears to be abandoned. I live in an area with horrible service so roms with Wifi calling would be nice.
Definitely getting an idea of good current roms would be a nice start!
Thanks in advance, I understand I'm and Android noob, feel free to poke fun at me :-D
Just check the appropriate forum here. There should be one dedicated to your device.