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[Q] How to use Titanium Backup before flashing to a new rom?

Hi.
I want to flash anew.
I want to backup my apps.
I do not have an external SD card (i mean - i do, i just don't use it, it's in my drawer collecting dust).
I see that I can backup apps with Titanium.
But - once I will flash, these backups will all be wiped, will they not?
THANK YOU !

Why not just copy the titanium backup folder to your computer first? Flash your rom then once you get your phone running copy the folder back to your phone. Reinstall titanium backup and restore as needed. Titanium also comes with dropbox built in which can be pretty useful.
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e4e5nf3nc6 said:
Why not just copy the titanium backup folder to your computer first? Flash your rom then once you get your phone running copy the folder back to your phone. Reinstall titanium backup and restore as needed. Titanium also comes with dropbox built in which can be pretty useful.
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Great! Will do that! Thanks!

benyben123 said:
Hi.
I want to flash anew.
I want to backup my apps.
I do not have an external SD card (i mean - i do, i just don't use it, it's in my drawer collecting dust).
I see that I can backup apps with Titanium.
But - once I will flash, these backups will all be wiped, will they not?
THANK YOU !
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Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Yea I guess you are right....
Just didn't think of it since I thought I am suppose to format the SD card every time I flash. I also didn't know that TB saves its files to the SD card.
Thanks

ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Dude what is your problem. Sometimes people don't know as much as you. This is why they come here and ask questions. They don't need to be ridiculed for not knowing how to do something. I wouldn't ridicule you for losing for instance some chess games against me. I would instead assume you haven't spent thousands of hours studying it and be fine with that instead of throwing it in your face. You have a problem. I've been coming to these forums for maybe 2 weeks and I've seen some negative or condescending thing from you over and over. Read the rules and adhere to them or kindly leave. That is all.
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e4e5nf3nc6 said:
Dude what is your problem. Sometimes people don't know as much as you. This is why they come here and ask questions. They don't need to be ridiculed for not knowing how to do something. I wouldn't ridicule you for losing for instance some chess games against me. I would instead assume you haven't spent thousands of hours studying it and be fine with that instead of throwing it in your face. You have a problem. I've been coming to these forums for maybe 2 weeks and I've seen some negative or condescending thing from you over and over. Read the rules and adhere to them or kindly leave. That is all.
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I'll school you in a game of chess!
If you got chesspresso installed lets play a game sometime.
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Not going to waste my time bud.
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Not to be rude but if you could beat me I would know who you are. I sort of make part of my living giving private lessons.
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ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Why are you always a ****? Get a clue and lose the damn attitude.
I swear you sound just like a guy that was banned with a very similar name.

e4e5nf3nc6 said:
Not going to waste my time bud.
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The Ruy Lopez hah!
I keeeeeel you!
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ZeroT| Demented said:
Only if you format your internal sd card I mean that's common sense get a clue
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Firstly, Your Rude, Secondly you don't have a clue because you are completely wrong and clearly cannot read.
The OP had clearly stated he did not have an SD Card (but COULD), so if you did a full backup to internal memory (because of no SD Card).
Then yes, if you flash (as most require format/wipe, cache, and dalvik) you would also wipe your backup. Those with devices with no SD Card support should take care to copy the backup files manually to another device for later use.
I was searching for the question of "How to use Titanium Backup before flashing to a new ROM?"
However my question remains unanswered...
I have a custom ROM already installed, with all my apps and configuration etc, I want to try a new ROM to test something, then revert back to the ROM I am using now,
Does Titanium Backup create a restore point image, that I can restore later, and as such carry on using my device where I had it at the point of backup?
If not an image, then is the functionality I am looking for available?
Many Thanks,
Robert Readman

I don't believe titanium offers the feature you are looking for. It does have a feature that creates a flashable zip to to flash all your apps backcto the phone...however this feature has never worked for me lol. I always have to restore my apps the old fashioned way with the batch options restore. Like you,I did not have a SD card when I first flashed my phone. To get around this issue I created a backup with cwm and moved it to my PC for safe keeping. DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID and transfer the backup to PC via USB cable....if you do this the md5 sum will become corrupt. I don't know why but nandroids are sensitive in the way they handled/moved across platforms. Download the free app from the market called Airdroid. It connects your phone to your PC through a wireless LAN connection. It takes a little longer to transfer the boot image since its a large file but its MUCH safer. When you do transfer the nandroid to your PC its very important to not change ANYTHING in the file, especially the name. Change nothing! Otherwise you will mess up the md5. If you do get aa corrupt md5 like I did there is a tutorial on this site somewhere that walks you through the process of fixing it but it was a pain in the a** so use airdroid lol. Hope this helped.
Ps- having a SD card makes like much easier in the world of flashing/android Modding. Even a small one is worth it. Best of luck
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Pain-N-Panic said:
DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID and transfer the backup to PC via USB cable....if you do this the md5 sum will become corrupt. I don't know why but nandroids are sensitive in the way they handled/moved across platforms.
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Thanks for this Pain-N-Panic, I am not sure, but it maybe something to do with transferring in binary / ASCII modes, similar to an issue you come across with FTP, so it is very plausible as an issue but someone with more knowledge of this would need to comment.
My solution which should help, is to go into Terminal Emulator, and use tar to create an archive.
Example...
type 'pwd' (for present working directory), it should be root by default '/'
in my case, i have /sdcard/ as a symlink to /storage/primary/legacy/
so then type 'cd' (for change directory) to the location of your sd card storage.
then typing 'tar -cvf file.tar ./folder/' c for create, v for verbose, f for file, then the file to create, and the folder.
Search for use of tar online, if you require more information.
Code:
cd /sdcard/
tar -cvf TitaniumBackup.tar /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/
You can then transfer your TitaniumBackup.tar with all file ownership, permissions and even file / folder timestamps are stored, for restoring the folder later.

Anyone else a perfectionist?

...when it comes to their rom flashes.
What I mean is does anyone else seem to do a whole wipe of their phones, including internal memory and SD card?(making necessary backups first) Then after doing so, flash the rom of their choosing and install some apps one by one making sure not to get any FCs or bad freezes?
It seems as though for my case, I am very selective/picky about my flashing & installing apps that if something goes wrong I need to reflash just to make the "perfect" phone.
Am I alone?
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*GENESIS!*

Freakthis08 said:
...when it comes to their rom flashes.
What I mean is does anyone else seem to do a whole wipe of their phones, including internal memory and SD card?(making necessary backups first) Then after doing so, flash the rom of their choosing and install some apps one by one making sure not to get any FCs or bad freezes?
It seems as though for my case, I am very selective/picky about my flashing & installing apps that if something goes wrong I need to reflash just to make the "perfect" phone.
Am I alone?
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I don't know if your alone but I like to keep it dirty. At best I wipe internal data. All seems to work pretty well. Also I don't get how backing up your sd card then formatting it and then restoring it helps any. Since all the files will be the same then it won't have any negative or positive effects to what you're running
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Well I don't keep every file or folder from my backups. I keep the data folder for TiBu for restoring my settings quickly. Sometimes I feel a cleaner slate is better. Mostly I'm just getting annoyed I've had 2 random freezes while rebooting and had to battery pull and when I restart the phone the date turns to Dec. 2006.... and I'm doing whatever I can to learn how to prevent that annoying ________(whatever it is).
I try and flash on a clean slate to make sure I get as few errors as possible, but it seems as though the harder I try to make things perfect something has got karma against me screwing me up one way or another.

Nope! Too much work. i do just the basic flash/wipe and flash and enjoy

Well I use my internal SD for all my ROMs and my external SD Card has my music and photos. I keep both of the SD cards organized. When flashing I always wipe data, cache, and dalvik twice before flashing. Dirty flashing is something I don't want to deal with. xD
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I'm one of them but I don't restore anything from SD. I start from a clean slate. I d/l absolutely needed apps (maps, gtasks, voice) and as the days go by and I need something I d/l at that time. I've never had any issues on any rom (GB, ICS, JB) other than the ones outlines by the OP.

I'm the same as OP.. however I do seem to have some OCD. That may be it.....
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Xura08 said:
I'm the same as OP.. however I do seem to have some OCD. That may be it.....
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**** and I was trying to deny my OCD. FML pwned fail

Yeah now I'm waiting for my 32gb SD card (class 10!) To come in the mail and I may end up doing another flash... upgrading from my 8gb class 4.
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I wipe everything when switching ROMs. I don't like restoring apps from backup, either. I just re-install my apps one by one from the Play Store. And if I lost progress in a game or something, then too bad for me, at least my phone is "clean."

ApertureAndroid said:
I wipe everything when switching ROMs. I don't like restoring apps from backup, either. I just re-install my apps one by one from the Play Store. And if I lost progress in a game or something, then too bad for me, at least my phone is "clean."
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Well someone is a necro.....philiac... damned dude
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Making space on SD

I have a really noob question. I deleted a couple nandroids but my SD is still the same size. Could I safely delete the clockwork mod folder on my SD. I thought about doing this and making another backup in hopes of making space. I figured my storage would have increased some deleting two cyanogenmod backups?
I don't know what's in that folder and not sure if I'll screw my recovery up. I don't think so but not 100% certain? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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You can delete everything in that folder, it won't hurt you. FWIW I think some asop roms misreport the free space on sdcards, so if youre running cm10 you may have more than you think.
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Thanks! I hope so. Will hit the thanks when I get on my phone. Tablet app is buggy?
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Download the app Disk Usage. Let it run. Will show you what is using your memory. Breaks it down. Far left is broad break down. As you go right it breaks each larger group into smaller things. all the way at the right is the files themselves. So left might say System, Media, Apps, etc. Next column will break that down further.
Also are you using Blobs with CWM, the default option now? That saves everything, then every back up after it only saves what has changed since the last save, to save space and time. So if not much has changed since you last flashed, deleting those two saves might not affect much. You might be better blowing the whole folder away and starting fresh like you said. So the base Blob info is your current state.
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From what I understand, you can delete backups (through cwm, rom manager, etc) but the space won't be cleaned up all the way until you boot through recovery again and CWM does the reclaim space process. I'm assuming that actually goes through and delete appropriate blobs, etc.

ponyboy82 said:
From what I understand, you can delete backups (through cwm, rom manager, etc) but the space won't be cleaned up all the way until you boot through recovery again and CWM does the reclaim space process. I'm assuming that actually goes through and delete appropriate blobs, etc.
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After deleting backups you must go to backups/restore and choose (clear unused data) or something close to that. This freed up a ton of space for me
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Reducing size of blobs

Hey everyone. I have maybe five or six back ups on my external sd and I tried deleting them through cwm, it doesn't delete the unnecessary blobs I have. My backups take over 15-20gigs.
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After you deleted the backups, did you select the option in recovery to "Free up space" on the internal or external sd card?
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No I didn't see that. Will that delete just the blobs?
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kench33 said:
No I didn't see that. Will that delete just the blobs?
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It'll delete the blobs that are not needed
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It deletes the excess blob files associated with the backups that you deleted. That's why they are separate options: delete backups and free up space. If you deleted backups saved on the internal, free up space on the internal via CWM. Same goes for the external sd card. It won't be a night and day difference unless you deleted say 4 backups of the 6 you previously had.
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If I'm running out of space on the internal SD card, can I just cut/paste the backup folder to my external SD card or does that mess up the backup/blobs?

Weird. It didn't free up space on my external sd
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ahpatel said:
If I'm running out of space on the internal SD card, can I just cut/paste the backup folder to my external SD card or does that mess up the backup/blobs?
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You would need to take the entire clock work mod folder.
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ahpatel said:
If I'm running out of space on the internal SD card, can I just cut/paste the backup folder to my external SD card or does that mess up the backup/blobs?
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You need to cut/paste the entire CWM folder which contains both the actual backup folder AND blobs folder. CWM backups are a two part deal. You're fine if you do this, I copy/paste one entire backup to my computer.maybe once a month. I only keep one backup on my phone and an older one on a computer.
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Weird. It didn't free up space on my external sd
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How many backups do you have on your external sd card?
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Five but in total I had ten and deleted just the back ups on my external sd
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kench33 said:
Five but in total I had ten and deleted just the back ups on my external sd
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Hmm, 5 backups at 2 GB apiece should take up about 12-14 gb now. How large is the backup folder and how large is the blobs folder? You may have to delete more to delete more backups and free up space.
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The thing about the blobs are they are the shared data between your backups so if you deleted 5 backups but they were the same ROM just different days. It will only delete the blobs that were that ROM. So if your 5 now a're all different you really still have 5 full backups that still take around 10 gb or so.
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Sounds about right then. I have 6 backups and blobs take up about 12gigs.thanks guys!
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Internal storage space

OK I don't think this is ROM related, but I am running CM11 M11 (I think) but I have had the issue for a while now. My internal SD card only shows about 600mb available. I have literally gone through every file on there and there is no way it is actually being used. Is there any way to format the interval SD card without wiping the entire system? Some how I think the way the system is reading the space is wrong. Because when I go to the storage tab in settings or will show like 10 goods available for about 3 seconds then it shows full. So it really sounds like there is something Hunny somewhere.
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Here is a screen shot of what I am seeing
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Have you tried using SDmaid by Dark3n? It has a find largest files function. For me this problem was produced by either dropbox or box (can't remember which) saving an additional copy of everything I uploaded to my internal storage.
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I had this issue. I had to "format data" in TWRP. Be careful, you will lose everything! Make sure you back up all of your data, photos, music etc to PC. I made a fresh backup to external SD, and was able to restore that after, then restore photos, etc from PC.
Good luck.
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joeclark said:
Here is a screen shot of what I am seeing
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If your recovery is CWM, did you make any backups?

I tried sdmaid and that did not work or find anything.
Ended up having to format my system and that did fix it. I just really did not want to.
As far as backups, no I have not. As my brother in law states I like living on the edge. That and I don't flash add much add I used to, and only 'stable' releases.
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