Didn't bother upgrading to the Note 2 as it was bigger than N1 and had a lower resolution.
Now upgraded to the N3 coming from a custom JB N1 rom, obviously the N3 is buttery smooth and is a nice size and weight compared to the N1.
The screen isn't much bigger than the N1, as the N1 had a res of 1280x800 it has a nice wide screen, the N3, like the N2, has a more long screen. The N1 screen is the same width as the N3 but the N3 is longer. Obviously the res increase to 1080 is nice.
Trimming my normal sim down to a microsim was fun but now done and works fine.
What did you use to Trim Down the Sim? I was prepared to order a new Sim, but if I didnt have to, that would be cool.
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What did you use to Trim Down the Sim? I was prepared to order a new Sim, but if I didnt have to, that would be cool.
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Phone retailers usually have what's called a Micro Sim Cutter.. I used one of those to cut mine to a micro sim. You just have to be careful not to cut the chip part, otherwise you're screwed.
Or if you're bold enough, you can try normal scissors.
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Which did you buy 9005 or 9000? I am thinking to upgrade my N1 too. Is speed the only substantial upgrade?
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Kitchen knife and chopping board There are plenty of guides online.
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Which did you buy 9005 or 9000? I am thinking to upgrade my N1 too. Is speed the only substantial upgrade?
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The screen is bigger and the obviously the full 1080 res is nice. The performance certainly seems to be the main upgrade over Note 1 with the screen a close second, I never really used the spen so cant comment on how much of an upgrade the new one is but it looks tangible.
I got the quad core one.
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Didn't bother upgrading to the Note 2 as it was bigger than N1 and had a lower resolution.
Now upgraded to the N3 coming from a custom JB N1 rom, obviously the N3 is buttery smooth and is a nice size and weight compared to the N1.
The screen isn't much bigger than the N1, as the N1 had a res of 1280x800 it has a nice wide screen, the N3, like the N2, has a more long screen. The N1 screen is the same width as the N3 but the N3 is longer. Obviously the res increase to 1080 is nice.
Trimming my normal sim down to a microsim was fun but now done and works fine.
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Awesome! I'm in the same boat (upgrading from an OG Note) so this info is very useful.
straxusii said:
Didn't bother upgrading to the Note 2 as it was bigger than N1 and had a lower resolution.
Now upgraded to the N3 coming from a custom JB N1 rom, obviously the N3 is buttery smooth and is a nice size and weight compared to the N1.
The screen isn't much bigger than the N1, as the N1 had a res of 1280x800 it has a nice wide screen, the N3, like the N2, has a more long screen. The N1 screen is the same width as the N3 but the N3 is longer. Obviously the res increase to 1080 is nice.
Trimming my normal sim down to a microsim was fun but now done and works fine.
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How responsive is touchwiz on the device? I currently have an N1 running PACman and it's very good (ATM) but with touchwiz it lagged horribly I couldn't even stand the experience, was it just the N1 dual core couldn't handle the bloat?
Also does this device have an IR blaster to control a TV like the S4? Does it have the ability to keep the screen on while you're looking at it? Those are nice features potentially nice enough to keep touchwiz provided the experience is halfway decent.
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How responsive is touchwiz on the device? I currently have an N1 running PACman and it's very good (ATM) but with touchwiz it lagged horribly I couldn't even stand the experience, was it just the N1 dual core couldn't handle the bloat?
Also does this device have an IR blaster to control a TV like the S4? Does it have the ability to keep the screen on while you're looking at it? Those are nice features potentially nice enough to keep touchwiz provided the experience is halfway decent.
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It's very responsive. It might not be as responsive as HTC's sense 5 and Iphone's IOS slimmed-down interfaces, but it's very close.
It has everything that the S4 has, and then some. So yes it does have an IR blaster and all the gimmicky features.
I upgraded from the Note 1 too, this is what i think so far
- N3 is much, much faster. The N1 isnt a slow phone IMO but the 3 just blows it away
- Screen is a lot better resolution wise but i can't see any improvements in colour reproduction/viewing angles etc
- Front gorilla glass seems thinner and doesn't smudge as much
- Phone overall is lighter and doesn't feel as solid (sure this is due to the less weight, the build quality is just as good)
- N3 is thinner, narrower and taller
- S Pen is a lot better, feels like the tip is rubberised so it doesn't scrape across the screen
- No improvement for the speaker that i can tell
- Battery life slightly better (i'd say about 10-20% better than N1)
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Won't let me edit previous post :crying: but I found the N1 on stock TW Jelly bean was nice and smooth - no lag at all. It did struggle a bit on paranoid android though
Now all I need is root and to change the DPI
LuckyStrike88 said:
How responsive is touchwiz on the device? I currently have an N1 running PACman and it's very good (ATM) but with touchwiz it lagged horribly I couldn't even stand the experience, was it just the N1 dual core couldn't handle the bloat?
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TW is very responsive, as it bloody should be with a 2.3ghz quad core and 3gb of ram
LuckyStrike88 said:
Also does this device have an IR blaster to control a TV like the S4? Does it have the ability to keep the screen on while you're looking at it? Those are nice features potentially nice enough to keep touchwiz provided the experience is halfway decent.
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Not sure, sorry mate
One thing I hate about the N3 is the browsers, with the N1 we had quick ICS browser which gave you full screen browser, I havent yet found a full screen browser that has access to my chrome desktop bookmarks
Yes it does have an IR blaster.
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Having had the N3 for a couple of weeks now I'll update my impressions comparing it to a Note 1.
First off it cements my idea at the time that the Note 2 was a sidegrade not an upgrade from the Note 1, I don't know about you guys but the Note for me is all about the large screen whilst being small enough to fit in your pocket and for some inexplicable reason the screen on the Note 2 was worse than the N1.
Anyway back to the N3
The size of the phone is great, it feels smaller than the N1, large because it is thinner and less wide, slightly longer.
Screen is good but not a huge upgrade size-wise from the N1, this is because the N1's screen was 1280x800 so was quite fat, the N3 is more lozenge shaped (it is as fat as the N1 though), the density of the screen at 1080p is though awesome.
Battery life is the single key area I would say where it dominates the N1, I had a slightly extended battery in my N1 and my N3 gets about double the battery life of my N1, I can get about 48 hours use from the N3.
Performance is the other area that shines compared to the note 1, understandably as you go from a 1.4Ghz dual to a 2.3Ghz quad, apps and transitions are smooth as silk in comparison to the N1.
The 2 keys annoyances for me were:
1) The lack of a full screen browser that syncs my chrome desktop booksmarks, Dolphin browser is the solution to this on the N3 and works fine
2) For some insane reason Samsung have placed a home selector widget on every screen, like swiping your finger to change screens isn't easy enough and you can't turn the bloody thing off! I have moved to Nova launcher to deal with this and if anything the phone feels snappier (probably due to Nova'a default of having faster transitions)
Thank you for your feedback straxusii . I liked because I did the same the note 2 was a no go for me as changing from a 16:10 (I THINK) aspect ratio on the note 1 to 16:9 in the note 2 was a big mistake in my opinion.
What I want to ask you is this:
how wide is the scren in mm in the note 3 compared to the note 1( if you still have it) not from bezel to bezel but from pixel 1 to pixel 1080 , has sometines there is like half a mm void after the bezel.
I had he note 1 for almost 2 years and love it. Then I sold it and bought the mega 6.3 .. and don't love ir has much , miss the amoled every second I use it .
and miss the camera . Mega 6.3 camera is rubish compared to the note 1 . Believe it or not. Went with the hipe of internet bul**** reviewers sayin the camera was like from the note 2 ..
So how is low light / indoors photo quality compared to the note one? And sunlight visibility ?
Yes I read all the reviews.. some many times.. but I take the word of a xda user anyday than a biased ignorant reviewer
thank you.
straxusii said:
I don't know about you guys but the Note for me is all about the large screen whilst being small enough to fit in your pocket and for some inexplicable reason the screen on the Note 2 was worse than the N1.
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Great post. I always preferred Note 1 to Note 2 for the width and the screen. I keep hearing how great the Note 2's screen was but it looked fuzzy to me whereas Note 1 looked much better.
Getting my Note 3 on Monday anyway
One of the first things I did was hold the two screens together to compare and I found the note 1 screen was the same width as the note 3 screen, just the note 3 screen is longer.
I haven't used the camera much but it seems a big improvement, especially in low light.
Nothing can compare to the Note three. It is a technical marvel. The screen is clearer and shape and brighter and larger than any of those.
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I'm loving it
I moved from the Note 1 too, for the same reasons.
The Note 3 is faster, and the battery life I am getting is much, much better. This is especially on screen use where I had 4 hours yesterday, and battery still at 45% with over 18 hours of use, including a couple of hours of music. I also find the OS update has improved drain when not in use, often not dropping by even 1% over an hour or more.
My only gripe is the screen resize / one-hand operation does not work without TW, which I do not use.
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Now re-applied stock ROM to Note 1, and wondering what to do with it. It's too slow after the Note 3, but still a great phone.
Sell it on eBay
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This is another one of those which phone questions.
Situation is I need to buy a new phone in the next few weeks for my Europe trip. I want good battery life, a decent gps and it should be comfortable to hold in my hand. Other than those criteria I just want decent responsiveness and good ROM support. I've seen the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S3, HTC One X in the shop, they are horribly big. The GPS is important because I want to do sports tracking, it needs to be accurate even when there are few cell towers around. My galaxy S certainly had a few problems and I'm not really a Samsung fan after owning it.
So far this is what I see. I may be wrong on some of these points, but none of these phones really suit me.
HTC One S
Has GLONASS and GPS, Snapdragon S4 (28nm) if I can find the right model
4.3", good enough I guess
Pretty good battery life
Camera seems good (f-stop 2.0)
but..
Jelly Bean support months away?
No hardware home button
No SD card slot
Have to waste time hunting down the S4 model, as I don't want an old S3 chipped phone.
HTC One V
Cheap!
Good Camera
but...
No dual core
No GLONASS
only 512MB ram
It's hardly an upgrade from the galaxy S besides the better GPS
Galaxy Nexus
Good ROM support
Cheap
but....
Camera is not great
No hardware home button or SD card slot
It's big(ish)
Galaxy S3
Has SD card slot
GLONASS + GPS
Quad Core
Jelly Bean confirmed
but...
It's samsung so the GPS antenna is probably ****
It's HUGE
battery life probably not great?
iPhone4s
Apparently android manufacturers are incapable of making phones that are not huge. Put up with iTunes and but have a phone with a decent GPS, cemera and physical size. I think this is actually a better option than the Galaxy S3 to be honest.
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This is another one of those which phone questions.
Situation is I need to buy a new phone in the next few weeks for my Europe trip. I want good battery life, a decent gps and it should be comfortable to hold in my hand. Other than those criteria I just want decent responsiveness and good ROM support. I've seen the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S3, HTC One X in the shop, they are horribly big. The GPS is important because I want to do sports tracking, it needs to be accurate even when there are few cell towers around. My galaxy S certainly had a few problems and I'm not really a Samsung fan after owning it.
So far this is what I see. I may be wrong on some of these points, but none of these phones really suit me.
HTC One S
Has GLONASS and GPS, Snapdragon S4 (28nm) if I can find the right model
4.3", good enough I guess
Pretty good battery life
Camera seems good (f-stop 2.0)
but..
Jelly Bean support months away?
No hardware home button
No SD card slot
Have to waste time hunting down the S4 model, as I don't want an old S3 chipped phone.
HTC One V
Cheap!
Good Camera
but...
No dual core
No GLONASS
only 512MB ram
It's hardly an upgrade from the galaxy S besides the better GPS
Galaxy Nexus
Good ROM support
Cheap
but....
Camera is not great
No hardware home button or SD card slot
It's big(ish)
Galaxy S3
Has SD card slot
GLONASS + GPS
Quad Core
Jelly Bean confirmed
but...
It's samsung so the GPS antenna is probably ****
It's HUGE
battery life probably not great?
iPhone4s
Apparently android manufacturers are incapable of making phones that are not huge. Put up with iTunes and but have a phone with a decent GPS, cemera and physical size. I think this is actually a better option than the Galaxy S3 to be honest.
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I myself own a Galaxy Note, which is the biggest on the market, and LOVE the huge screen, infact my only problem with the phone is now every other phone feels like some tiny kids toy.
Really you will not get any better than the S3 and you will get used to the biggest screen (my phone before the note was a desire s which was only 3.7") I would really recommend the S3 you will not be disappointed!
I never had problems with GPS on my note, and the battery life is great as the yes much bigger screen but also much more space for a larger batter so it balances out
keyo said:
Apparently android manufacturers are incapable of making phones that are not huge. Put up with iTunes and but have a phone with a decent GPS, cemera and physical size. I think this is actually a better option than the Galaxy S3 to be honest.
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This is driving me crazy as well. The point of a phone is to be portable, something small I can put in my pocket and hold comfortably in one hand. 4-4.3" is the sweet spot, anything larger is just to darn big. On Verizon the only phone I've seen recently that looks decent with a normal sized screen is the HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE with a 4" qHD screen and an S4. Of course you probably want something thats GSM for Europe.
Everybody seems to be giving it bad reviews for its screen size, but I think its a selling point. I'm holding out to see if a normal sized Nexus device comes out, or at least something from Samsung.
The Droid Incredible 4G LTE is in the middle next to the iPhone left and Galaxy Nexus right.
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GNexus has the best support on xda.
The photo above shows it pretty clearly, the nexus is unfortunately oversized. I'm quite keen on the htc one S, despite it's few flaws it seems to be the most well-rounded. I just don't know if I can rely on it getting updates? I'm not so sure on the motorola, I'm buying from either New Zealand or Europe so these american models are not familiar to me.
Google will no doubt come out with another huge phone this year to rival the nexus. This is quite frustrating, remember the big brick phones from the 90's, I don't want that. Apple, while being a assholes, seem to be making pocket friendly hardware at least.
Maybe the atrix? Great specs but the rom support is slow, down to the fact we still haven't got ics from motorola, but we have a stable ics rom which lacks video capture and a few minor things
And its perfectly sized in my opinion
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The gnex's 4.65 inch measurement is a little misleading. That's including the on screen buttons so in reality it is more like 4.3 inches. I came from a Droid incredible which was 3.7 and I would never go back to that size. The nexus size is perfect. No problems fitting in pockets.
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..I'm quite keen on the htc one S..
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I LOVE my One S. The only thing that bugged me was no hardware menu button. Fixed that with a mod (remap recent apps to menu, and long press home to access it), and all is well.
I have the Gradient Blue model, so I can't give any feedback on the black model's micro arc oxidation issue.
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The iPhone's screen is perfect in size... if you want to strain your eyes. My D2 has just a slightly larger screen and it is in no way sufficient. To each his own though. I'd think being able to view websites without having to pinch to zoom all the time would be nice.
If you want something smaller but that's good all-around I'd look at the Xperia U. If you can deal with something a little larger I'd look at the HTC Rezound, the Xperia P or Ion, or the Nexus.
So the HTC One S seems good, as long as it will be getting jelly bean, at least a community one?
Xperia phones are nice too, a little cheaper and perhaps let down by the camera a little. But well worth considering, thanks for the suggestion.
Something interesting I discovered here is the motion blur. GSMArena has a video comparison page. The HTC phone is quite bad, compared with The galaxy S models. Anyone know why this is? More quality means more blur? I recorded a game of table tennis with my galaxy S and it was very good quality in terms of seeing the ball. I have my doubts that the HTC One S would be able to do the same.
Could I expect less motion blur if I switched to 720p?
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=2&idPhone1=4574&idPhone3=3621&idCamera2=30001
Engadget: LG Optimus G Pro coming to AT&T on May 10th
Not only does it have a removable battery and SD card slot (same as the Galaxy S4)... but it also has:
- IPS LCD display for better sunlight visibility than AMOLED
- 32 gb of internal memory standard for the lowest model
- A programmable "q button" that allows you to map any function you want to have happen when you press it
And of course all the basics of a high end superphone nowadays
- 5.5 inch 1080p display
- 3140 mAh battery
- Snapdragon 600
- 13 mp camera
- IR Blaster
- 2gb RAM
- LTE
Here's a video I found from ATT :
#%&! ... I'm not sure which one to order now
ap3604 said:
Engadget: LG Optimus G Pro coming to AT&T on May 10th
Not only does it have a removable battery and SD card slot (same as the Galaxy S4)... but it also has:
- IPS LCD display for better sunlight visibility than AMOLED
- 32 gb of internal memory standard for the lowest model
- 5.5 inch 1080p display
- 3140 mAh battery
- 13 mp camera
#%&! ... I'm not sure which one to order now
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Techradar did a feature on it and found it to be a bit of a tacky version of the note.
Concerning IPS, I much prefer amoled now that it's avialable with more accurate colours. Before, IPS had the advantage but now the colour accuracy on the galaxies (e.g.movie mode) is good enough. Combine that with the beautifully inky blacks, and I never want another IPS display again. (except the one on my macbook
Except the rip off design and the lack of Spen on that big screen, anything on Optimus G Pro is great.
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Edit: Oh, I forgot about the horrible update from LG
Personally, I won't go anywhere near LG devices unless it's Nexus to be honest. And it's a competitor to Note II (or rather Note III) than S4.
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And it's a competitor to Note II (or rather Note III) than S4.
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I personally don't care what someone says its a competitor for.
With those specs it's simply a competitor for best phone of early 2013, which is what I care about.
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I personally don't care what someone says its a competitor for.
With those specs it's simply a competitor for best phone of early 2013, which is what I care about.
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Jesus Christ it's a 5.5'' phone, hence it's a competitor for the "phablet" (hate the term, but whatever) category rather than ordinary smartphone. Hence my comment.
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Jesus Christ it's a 5.5'' phone, hence it's a competitor for the "phablet" (hate the term, but whatever) category rather than ordinary smartphone. Hence my comment.
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Jesus Christ all flagship phone screens are starting to be at least 5+ inches anyways, hence every smartphone is turning into a "phablet" (I hate the term too). So no, it simply is competing with all the other giants of 2013... including the Galaxy S 4.
ap3604 said:
Jesus Christ all flagship phone screens are starting to be at least 5+ inches anyways, hence every smartphone is turning into a "phablet" (I hate the term too). So no, it simply is competing with all the other giants of 2013... including the Galaxy S 4.
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Not really. they have 5.5'' screen and the flagships are </=5 inch. Big difference. The target audiences are different. Anywho, whatever.
LG is mostly known to be great regarding its swift updating policy
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LG is mostly known to be great regarding its swift updating policy
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I see what you did there...
As for the android version, it comes with 4.1.2 and while I'm sure both Samsung and LG are going to make it a point to try and update handsets to the latest android versions... I really don't care as that's the whole reason I come on xda anyways (so I don't have to rely on the manufacturer for updates)
i'll be sticking with the s4.
thinner, lighter, still an enourmous battery. dont need all that size in the screen.. although the LCD would be an upgrade if u ask me. AMOLED is nice, but i prefer the brightness for sun viewing.
Don't get neurotic about having the absolute "best" phone, ferchrissakes. Guess what? That bling new piece of latest and greatest shiny you just plunked down your cash for? It's always going to be second best in a few months. Use your device and enjoy it, and maybe learn to not give a rat's ass if it isn't the absolute newest on your block.
burhanistan said:
Don't get neurotic about having the absolute "best" phone, ferchrissakes. Guess what? That bling new piece of latest and greatest shiny you just plunked down your cash for? It's always going to be second best in a few months. Use your device and enjoy it, and maybe learn to not give a rat's ass if it isn't the absolute newest on your block.
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Agreed.
I'd actually go one further and say the tell-tale sign that you're 'with' the right device is that you're NOT that desperate to upgrade as soon as something new comes out. During my iphone-phase I was always excited when the new model came out - I know now it was partly due to the marketing and partly because I was never completely happy with them.
Even when better phones than the gs3 were coming out I was happy sticking with it until an upgrade that REALLY appealed to me came along (s4).
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... although the LCD would be an upgrade if u ask me. AMOLED is nice, but i prefer the brightness for sun viewing.
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I have a preference for LCD over AMOLED as well (although both can be great). The outdoor visibility is a big deal for me so I'm not sure which one to get
Also the 32 gb of internal memory on the standard lowest $199 w/ 2-yr contract model isn't too shabby
burhanistan said:
Don't get neurotic about having the absolute "best" phone, ferchrissakes. Guess what? That bling new piece of latest and greatest shiny you just plunked down your cash for? It's always going to be second best in a few months. Use your device and enjoy it, and maybe learn to not give a rat's ass if it isn't the absolute newest on your block.
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I have an upgrade coming up so of course I'm going to chose the best phone for me at the time.
1) Removable battery
2) Outdoor screen visibility
Those are the top 2 features I'm looking for in my next phone and I'm not sure which phone to go with yet (LG Optimus Pro or Galaxy S4).
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Not really. they have 5.5'' screen and the flagships are </=5 inch. Big difference. The target audiences are different. Anywho, whatever.
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I agree. It's so cool that Samsung was able to push the max screen size to 5" in basically the same package as the SIII. But the jump to a 5.5" screen is a big overall package jump. To me, that's just no longer a phone, but falls firmly in the phablet market.
Not putting down the phone, or what features are important to individual buyers. But it's not in the same place in the market as an S3/S4, HTC One is, IMO.
The Optimus G Pro is competition for the Note series, not the S series.
ap3604 said:
I have an upgrade coming up so of course I'm going to chose the best phone for me at the time.
1) Removable battery
2) Outdoor screen visibility
Those are the top 2 features I'm looking for in my next phone and I'm not sure which phone to go with yet (LG Optimus Pro or Galaxy S4).
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What makes you think that Optimus G Pro has better outdoor visibility? S4 has great outdoor visibility from what I gather. And even Note II scores better than G Pro when it comes to outdoor visibility. Although Note II isn't bad when it comes to outdoor visibility, S4 kicks Note II up the butt and is just marginally worse than the One. Brightness is not the only thing that's a decisive factor in outdoor visibility.
Here's the outdoor visibility chart:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p3.php
ap3604 said:
Jesus Christ all flagship phone screens are starting to be at least 5+ inches anyways, hence every smartphone is turning into a "phablet" (I hate the term too). So no, it simply is competing with all the other giants of 2013... including the Galaxy S 4.
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competing by the specs yes
by the sales heck no
by the updates ultimate no
fade2green514 said:
i'll be sticking with the s4.
thinner, lighter, still an enourmous battery. dont need all that size in the screen.. although the LCD would be an upgrade if u ask me. AMOLED is nice, but i prefer the brightness for sun viewing.
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Again, brightness is ONE of the factors that helps in outdoor visibility. AMOLEDs have higher contrast ratios, so despite much lower brightness, it can still have good sunlight visibility. Not HTC One good obviously, but still good.
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Again, brightness is ONE of the factors that helps in outdoor visibility. AMOLEDs have higher contrast ratios, so despite much lower brightness, it can still have good sunlight visibility. Not HTC One good obviously, but still good.
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well this is good news, i'll have to take a look at it when i get it. DAMN SUN! lol
oh and +1 thanks!
First I will explain my story: I went from owning the SGS 1, then SGS 2 and then I bought a Droid DNA for something different, but someone stole it. Luckily a friend sold me an SGS 3 for very cheap. By the time I played around with the SGS 3, I realised why I was getting bored of Samsung to begin with. It's because of the screen. Yes it looks sharp and clear but the amoled screen was so fake and forced with saturation which my Droid DNA wasn't suffering from. Not to mention the SGS 3 seemed exactly the same as my SGS 2 only a different shape and size. It was quite frankly boring!
After my insurance company replaced my Droid DNA I could no longer use the SGS 3 because of these facts. I continued to use the Droid DNA for the following months and I can not fault it besides the screen being too small for me now, I have simply outgrown it. I have since sold all of my phones including the DNA to purchase a new phone. I automatically wanted the Note 3 because of the size and hardware and well known projected development but my main questions are:
Is the screen on the Galaxy Note 3 improved with life like colours in comparison to the SGS 3?
Is the camera going to be good enough without OIS?
If you want to know my other choices and reasons why I am considering them please look below. (Was going to include Sony Xperia Z Ultra but the camera has no flash and is only 8mp and the size form factor is too much for me)
My first choice (hoping the screen doesn't put me off)
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Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Pros:
Biggest screen in a small chassis in comparison to any other phablet
Stylus might come in handy but I have never used one before
Has the best internals out of the competition Snapdragon 800/Adreno 330
Development support is massive for Samsung!
Massive battery
4K recording on specific model I am interested in
More RAM
Cons:
Amoled screens have always seemed boring to look at to me and everything seems fake, almost like a cartoon. I need to use the GN3 in person before I can be sure. They might have made it better than the SGS 3? - This is the main reason I am concerned about - My Droid DNA felt so lifelike and easy to look at)
Camera has no OIS (and apparently the auto focus is slow according to some reviews)
My second choice
Acer Liquid S2
Pros:
Screen appeals to me more as it is not amoled like the Note 3
6" display
Same internals as Note 3
Same battery capacity as Note 3
Highest contrast amongst my choices?
Better Front Camera than the other choices
LED Ring Flash (4 leds)
Cons:
Bigger than Note 3 and not sure if it is worth it for the size increase of the screen (TOUGH DECISION)
Has a slower clock speed at 2.2 instead of 2.3 in other Snapdragon 800 phones
If it is not a lot cheaper than it will make me lean towards the Note 3
Reflective screen might cancel out contrast levels outdoors
Not sure what development will be like?
My third choice (more information on release might push me to buy this phone)
Oppo N1
Pros:
Rotating 6 lens camera with F/2.0 Aperture
First Cyanogen Mod Integrated Phone
Duel LED Flash
Biggest battery of all of my choices
Back of the phone has a touch panel which I bet will become very customisable
Aluminium
Some images make it look like the phone is waterproof?
Cons:
Phone might be tooooo big
last generation internals Snapdragon 600/Adreno 320
My third choice tied (more information on release might push me to buy this phone)
HTC One Max ( Some specs might still be unconfirmed)
Pros:
Screen might appeal to me more as it is not amoled like the Note 3
Larger screen
Camera has OIS and might be great. (The HTC One camera didn't impress me too much however)
External surround speakers
Development has really started picking back up with HTC
Cons:
Physical size must be big considering the speaker layout and camera
last generation internals Snapdragon 600/Adreno 320
Another tied third choice (Price is so cheap it might make do)
LG Optimus G Pro (Was also looking at Note 2 but this trumps it in every way besides stylus/software which I am still unsure if I will use often enough and of course I prefer a non amoled screen)
Pros:
This phone is literally half the price as the note 3 costing me $450 vs $850 for the Note 3 (This phone might keep me going until a newer phone entices me and for half the price it is tempting)
Dolby mobile sound enhancement
Great sized screen
Big battery
Camera is better than average
The development is not tooooo bad
Cons:
last generation internals Snapdragon 600/Adreno 320
My fourth choice (most disappointing because screen is probably not going to be big enough!! but I love all of the other features. If this phone was 5.5" I would be getting it over anything else! I am so annoyed it has on screen keys and a smaller screen! - It's why I sold my Nexus 4 so quickly)
LG G2
Pros:
Screen appeals to me more as it is not amoled like the Note 3
Large battery for a small phone (not as good as the note 3 but the life should be close to the same as it has a smaller screen to power)
The phone is cheaper to buy outright by $200 dollars in my country in comparison to the note 3
Camera is outstanding - 4K record might be possible with firmware update - f/2.4 aperture and OIS has proven to take better images and video with the right settings in comparison to my other phone choices
Internals are the same as Note 3
Cons:
Screen is only a little step up in quality and size from my Droid DNA (especially if I choose to keep on screen keys active)
LG usually have little development support compared to Samsung
The button placement at the back makes the phone look weird and maybe awkward. I thought it was a camera lens cover when I first saw it
At the end of the day if the Note 3 didn't have an amoled screen and did have OIS I wouldn't be looking at other phones at all. Even if it just had a different screen it would probably lock me in to buying it. That goes the same for the LG G2 if it had a larger screen! To make a definitive decision, I need to use all of these phones in person but because I live in Australia, most of these phones aren't available to me. Makes it very hard to make a decision! I need to look at the Galaxy Note 3 screen and see if I can deal with the amoled, if I can I will buy it. It is released in Australia in 3 days for me to check out.
If I don't like the Note 3 screen, I will need to handle the Oppo, Acer and HTC One Max to see if I am comfortable with the size of them. If I am then I will buy whichever one I like better, the problem is these phone will probably not come to Australia anytime soon, if at all for me to test them so I can only go by user opinion!
If I am not completely happy with the Acer/HTC/Oppo size I will end up buying the LG Optimus G Pro for so much cheaper than the others and I will then look to replace it when I am happy with another phone even if the phone is lower spec, it has decent development and an upgraded screen size and quality over my DNA.
I also need to see the LG G2 in person to judge the screen size for myself, again the phone is not available in my country until November! and I will want to make a decision by then
Note 3 Ftw!
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Come on brotha, your posting in a Note 3 thread. That'd be like me going to a Republican rally and asking which is better: Republicans, Democrats, or the Green Party? lol
uppon2 said:
First I will explain my story: I went from owning the SGS 1, then SGS 2 and then I bought a Droid DNA for something different, but someone stole it. Luckily a friend sold me an SGS 3 for very cheap. By the time I played around with the SGS 3, I realised why I was getting bored of Samsung to begin with. It's because of the screen. Yes it looks sharp and clear but the amoled screen was so fake and forced with saturation which my Droid DNA wasn't suffering from. Not to mention the SGS 3 seemed exactly the same as my SGS 2 only a different shape and size. It was quite frankly boring!
After my insurance company replaced my Droid DNA I could no longer use the SGS 3 because of these facts. I continued to use the Droid DNA for the following months and I can not fault it besides the screen being too small for me now, I have simply outgrown it. I have since sold all of my phones including the DNA to purchase a new phone. I automatically wanted the Note 3 because of the size and hardware and well known projected development but my main questions are:
Is the screen on the Galaxy Note 3 improved with life like colours in comparison to the SGS 3?
Is the camera going to be good enough without OIS?
If you want to know my other choices and reasons why I am considering them please look below. (Was going to include Sony Xperia Z Ultra but the camera has no flash and is only 8mp and the size form factor is too much for me)
My first choice (hoping the screen doesn't put me off)
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Pros:
Biggest screen in a small chassis in comparison to any other phablet
Stylus might come in handy but I have never used one before
Has the best internals out of the competition Snapdragon 800/Adreno 330
Development support is massive for Samsung!
Massive battery
4K recording on specific model I am interested in
More RAM
Cons:
Amoled screens have always seemed boring to look at to me and everything seems fake, almost like a cartoon. I need to use the GN3 in person before I can be sure. They might have made it better than the SGS 3? - This is the main reason I am concerned about - My Droid DNA felt so lifelike and easy to look at)
Camera has no OIS (and apparently the auto focus is slow according to some reviews)
My second choice
Acer Liquid S2
Pros:
Screen appeals to me more as it is not amoled like the Note 3
6" display
Same internals as Note 3
Same battery capacity as Note 3
Highest contrast amongst my choices?
Better Front Camera than the other choices
LED Ring Flash (4 leds)
Cons:
Bigger than Note 3 and not sure if it is worth it for the size increase of the screen (TOUGH DECISION)
Has a slower clock speed at 2.2 instead of 2.3 in other Snapdragon 800 phones
If it is not a lot cheaper than it will make me lean towards the Note 3
Reflective screen might cancel out contrast levels outdoors
Not sure what development will be like?
My third choice (more information on release might push me to buy this phone)
Oppo N1
Pros:
Rotating 6 lens camera with F/2.0 Aperture
First Cyanogen Mod Integrated Phone
Duel LED Flash
Biggest battery of all of my choices
Back of the phone has a touch panel which I bet will become very customisable
Aluminium
Some images make it look like the phone is waterproof?
Cons:
Phone might be tooooo big
last generation internals Snapdragon 600/Adreno 320
My third choice tied (more information on release might push me to buy this phone)
HTC One Max ( Some specs might still be unconfirmed)
Pros:
Screen might appeal to me more as it is not amoled like the Note 3
Larger screen
Camera has OIS and might be great. (The HTC One camera didn't impress me too much however)
External surround speakers
Development has really started picking back up with HTC
Cons:
Physical size must be big considering the speaker layout and camera
last generation internals Snapdragon 600/Adreno 320
Another tied third choice (Price is so cheap it might make do)
LG Optimus G Pro (Was also looking at Note 2 but this trumps it in every way besides stylus/software which I am still unsure if I will use often enough and of course I prefer a non amoled screen)
Pros:
This phone is literally half the price as the note 3 costing me $450 vs $850 for the Note 3 (This phone might keep me going until a newer phone entices me and for half the price it is tempting)
Dolby mobile sound enhancement
Great sized screen
Big battery
Camera is better than average
The development is not tooooo bad
Cons:
last generation internals Snapdragon 600/Adreno 320
My fourth choice (most disappointing because screen is probably not going to be big enough!! but I love all of the other features. If this phone was 5.5" I would be getting it over anything else! I am so annoyed it has on screen keys and a smaller screen! - It's why I sold my Nexus 4 so quickly)
LG G2
Pros:
Screen appeals to me more as it is not amoled like the Note 3
Large battery for a small phone (not as good as the note 3 but the life should be close to the same as it has a smaller screen to power)
The phone is cheaper to buy outright by $200 dollars in my country in comparison to the note 3
Camera is outstanding - 4K record might be possible with firmware update - f/2.4 aperture and OIS has proven to take better images and video with the right settings in comparison to my other phone choices
Internals are the same as Note 3
Cons:
Screen is only a little step up in quality and size from my Droid DNA (especially if I choose to keep on screen keys active)
LG usually have little development support compared to Samsung
The button placement at the back makes the phone look weird and maybe awkward. I thought it was a camera lens cover when I first saw it
At the end of the day if the Note 3 didn't have an amoled screen and did have OIS I wouldn't be looking at other phones at all. Even if it just had a different screen it would probably lock me in to buying it. That goes the same for the LG G2 if it had a larger screen! To make a definitive decision, I need to use all of these phones in person but because I live in Australia, most of these phones aren't available to me. Makes it very hard to make a decision! I need to look at the Galaxy Note 3 screen and see if I can deal with the amoled, if I can I will buy it. It is released in Australia in 3 days for me to check out.
If I don't like the Note 3 screen, I will need to handle the Oppo, Acer and HTC One Max to see if I am comfortable with the size of them. If I am then I will buy whichever one I like better, the problem is these phone will probably not come to Australia anytime soon, if at all for me to test them so I can only go by user opinion!
If I am not completely happy with the Acer/HTC/Oppo size I will end up buying the LG Optimus G Pro for so much cheaper than the others and I will then look to replace it when I am happy with another phone even if the phone is lower spec, it has decent development and an upgraded screen size and quality over my DNA.
I also need to see the LG G2 in person to judge the screen size for myself, again the phone is not available in my country until November! and I will want to make a decision by then
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Lol, well at least you did your research I am a former amoled hater, I returned my galaxy nexus because of the crappy colors and green tint, so I understand your concerns. In seeing friends gs3 vs gs4 the screen is much improved and I find the colors more realistic, the colors on LCD being super saturated, and the blacks are miles better. I then played with a gnote2 for a few days before deciding if I wanted the 3 and the answer was a resounding yes, the screen was fantastic
Best way is like you said, to just wait until it reaches your country and you can see it in person. Amoled displays have vibrant over saturated colors, better viewing angles, better battery efficiency than LCDs, and better blacks. LCDs have better whites, better brightness and viewing eligibility under the sun, more realistic colors. See which benefits you like the most and get the phone with the corresponding screen.
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I bought the Note 3 for its unparalleled stylus integration. (and screen size/beast-mode specs) It has no competition at this point in time (Although a few competitors are in the works).
FWIW, I think the Note 3's screen is gorgeous.
When you posted it here, you should have known the answer is skewed.
If Note 3 did not have so much restriction, it should have been my choice.
mingkee said:
When you posted it here, you should have known the answer is skewed.
If Note 3 did not have so much restriction, it should have been my choice.
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Not arguing, but what restriction?
Change the screen mode in settings to Natural and if it's still not to your liking try Movie. By default it's on Standard and can even be increased with Dynamic. Changing the saturation has been present in settings since the GS2, idk how people miss that one option that could end their complains. If that doesn't do it for you then the Galaxy line might not be for you.
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MohJee said:
Best way is like you said, to just wait until it reaches your country and you can see it in person. Amoled displays have vibrant over saturated colors, better viewing angles, better battery efficiency than LCDs, and better blacks. LCDs have better whites, better brightness and viewing eligibility under the sun, more realistic colors. See which benefits you like the most and get the phone with the corresponding screen.
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Doesn't anybody use the movie mode or adobe rgb mode? Looks great in either mode. The galaxy series are on dynamic mode out of the box. Similar to how TV manufacturers and resellers put display TV's in this mode to stand out.
MohJee said:
Best way is like you said, to just wait until it reaches your country and you can see it in person. Amoled displays have vibrant over saturated colors, better viewing angles, better battery efficiency than LCDs, and better blacks. LCDs have better whites, better brightness and viewing eligibility under the sun, more realistic colors. See which benefits you like the most and get the phone with the corresponding screen.
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This is all personal taste, of course, but I find LCD screens more over saturated, and the sun viewing thing is overstated, while technically true, the reflections off the glass of all these screens makes it mostly mute. I've used my iPhone, iPad, friends galaxy devices, they all ultimately stink in direct sun
Thanks for the replies guys. I posted this here because amongst bias choices, people will still give me answers I want to hear. A lot of people buy the Note series for the stylus and software features alone, where these features are simply bonuses that I might use and not even close to the reason I want a large screen device!
If it wasn't for my need of the digitizer pen for documents there are a lot of strong contenders like LG G2 (especially the price <$200), Sony Z1, etc.
mi7chy said:
If it wasn't for my need of the stylus for documents there are a lot of strong contenders like LG G2 (especially the price <$200), Sony Z1, etc.
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This is my point exactly. People can usually see the benefit of a stylus and that might play a huge roll in choosing the device! As this is not my primary concern I would choose the Z1 if it had a larger screen or The LG G2 if it had solid AOSP support; I guess I could make do with hiding the soft keys
I think this thread is a bit premature at the moment as there's too many unknowns about some of the other devices, the Acer looks potentially interesting but whether it's going to be worth considering will depend a lot on the price and how well it works in practice.
John
I have yet to see a note 3 in the flesh but colour rendition in the s4 is better than in the s3 so it may be an indicator of what to expect.
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vtjay said:
Not arguing, but what restriction?
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Knox (prevent rooting)
Regional SIM locking (this is a major issue for travelers)
Regional sim locking won't effect anyone. It's only meant to prevent people from purchasing phones out of their region.
sgh-TWEAKED-889©
It won't affect people who travel to other countries?
Warrior1975 said:
Regional sim locking won't effect anyone. It's only meant to prevent people from purchasing phones out of their region.
sgh-TWEAKED-889©
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Not true. Read the main thread...
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If you could get Samsung to listen to you, what "hardware" features would you ask that they include on the Note 4 that is currently missing from the Note 3?
THIS IS NOT A SOFTWARE THREAD. Nor a specs thread.
Don't make fun of someone elses wishlist. It's theirs, not yours.
My simple three wishes.
1) IR receiver so I can learn remote codes to my phone.
2) Dual MicroSD slot or single regular SD slot.
3) Onboard speaker at top & bottom of phone if it can be done without making bezel bigger. Stereo style.
Not to do the IP67 waterproofing as it's pants on the S5 (overheating, fiddly to connect stuff with the doors etc.) If you are precious about phones it will be in a ruggedised MIL spec case anyway like mine.
Go all out on the camera and nail low light as well, let's be king of low light as well.
4gb RAM for no reason other than overkill.
Go all out on processor so if we must have touchwiz then make it completely lagless.
IR transceiver.
Big ass loud speakers.
Don't add silly gimmicks like a pulse sensor where you have to be still to use it. Add an O2 saturation sensor if you want to be real clever (which will also have a pulse rate).
Touch ECG on the back would be clever (3 contacts on the back plate touching the skin would work and the tech's been there for 10 years+ now.
1. Don't do no flexible display or curved screen like the LG gay-flex looks horrendous.
2. 64gb internal memory at least as an option but I'm content with 32gb for now.
3. 3-4gb ram just cuz touch wiz uses too much ram.
4. Have at least the SD 805 chip (tho I'd prefer 810, knowing it's not gonna be available til next year). I'll probably hold off til the note 5 is released.
5. The note can do 6" screen but dunno if I need more than that for even a phablet device, still it's possible but I expect 5.9 maybe even 6.1.
6. Keep the plastic! I love my cheap feeling phone and so do all the jealous haters talking smack about it with their broken and dented "premium" phones lol
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1- keep faux leather love it
2- 4 gb ram
3- more storage space (SD & Internal)
4- Double LED flash
5- Snapdragon 805
6- more spen functionality
7- hopefully they wont add water resistance.
4Gb ram, bigger battery, better consistency on the AMOLED screens, good thermal dissipation
All of the above plus dedicated HDMI out (most likely micro connector).
Just make it the best phone by miles. it could be done and people are more than willing to pay for it.
I would like the Note 4 to be a little thinner when front facing, because it is quite big for me, and front facing stereo speakers just like the one on the HTC one M8, also dual sim, and 50% more battery compared to the Note3's battery.
I wish KNOX and all other development-blocking features/restrictions to be gone, which void our warranty.
EDIT: If KNOX really is related to hardware, then it fits here.
I would like an end to end screen no hardware button
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It seems everything is wishing for FANCY stuff, So lets get back to the basics.
1.Bigger battery capacity or at least new technology like the one LG has been working on.
2.Higher quality control for their screens,I had a note 2 now bought 3 note 3 one for me two for friends all has screens with flaws.
3.More ram and a faster CPU will mean nothing if Touchwiz is not optimized, Touchwiz need to be tuned down and optimized.
4.Better optics,Resolution alone mean nothing,I heard great things about S4/Note 3 camera but both turned to be crap (personal opinion).
5.Higher quality material,I like plastic for its light weight and resistance to denting,But boy does Samsung use some cheap quality ones, Have a look at nokia or Oppo Samsung, That's how you make a high quality phone.
6.Give Knox to the versions you sell to corporates only,Don't lie and make us feel its not their mainly to stop us from rooting and still claim warranty.
I dont care for gimmicks or faster specs where my experience will still be far from perfect.
Dual speakers, bigger screen and battery. Better camera.
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Even though this wishlist is just for our own wishful thinking...
1. Metal unibody or rugged body
2. No waterproofing so I don't have to pull open that charger latch.
3. Fingerprint (duh!)
4. All unlocked bootloaders (duh!)
5. Wishful thinking but less Samsung bloat dammit!
6. Make the International Note 4 support ALL bands around the world.
7. Wow us with HARDWARE............ I can give up 90% of the software for better hardware.
This is how much I care for the software...
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xdm9mm said:
I would like the Note 4 to be a little thinner when front facing, because it is quite big for me, and front facing stereo speakers just like the one on the HTC one M8, also dual sim, and 50% more battery compared to the Note3's battery.
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In addition to those, I wish Samsung would remove the unnecessary bloat or at least make them optional during the setup. I know this is a software issue though.
Make embedded Qi charger like on other devices so we don't have to buy the receivers. I am willing to pay extra for these features.
Also a truly worldwide LTE channels like that on the Sony xperia. I don't know why samsung has to make several devices just for LTE channels when they can make one device Support true worldwide channels.
There are realistic hopes and there are just dreams
Realistic hopes/predictions:
- fingerprint scanner
- better controller for eMMC / microSD (speeds up to 8 * Note3 are now possible but it is realistic to only expect at most 2x)
- some water/dust protection
- better speaker(s)?
- possibly 4k screen?
Longer-term stuff (but I will only upgrade from my Note 3 when some of those will materialize, likely in Note 5):
- 64-bit ARM v8
- 4 GB RAM, about twice the current bandwith
- I would also want a better GPS that would not depend so much on being Assisted
Just dreams:
- dual microSD with RAID 1 option
- camera with zoom and real image stabilization.
I'm taking the perspective of things that are easily possible and would go a long way.
1. Stereo speakers.
It boggles my mind a little that this is missing from any phablet. Would make a huge difference just to play a game and not have to hear the sound always coming from the left.... which is pretty annoying.
2. Make it look cooler by designing better plastic covers.
Metal is nice but I don't care if they use plastic; it has its advantages too. But for God's sake Samsung, stop designing such crappy looking covers. Make it plastic, but make it look good like umpteen other companies do. I bought a $5 replacement cover; looks much better.
3. OIS.
This is a bit more advanced but if the Note 4 doesn't have OIS, its camera is going to take a beating in reviews.
4. Keep 1080p
Don't increase the resolution. Apps don't use it, eyes can't see it. Don't waste the money on research, don't waste our money on more expensive devices, don't waste GPU performance on filling a 4K screen for nothing. Stick with 1080p and put the time and money saved into something else that's much cooler. Admittedly I'm sure they're well past that point in its development.
5. Keep the replaceable everything.
Battery, SD card, entire cover. These are all huge advantages to the Galaxy range, becoming harder to find elsewhere.
6. FM tuner and transmitter
I would like to have the real radio back, but I know they won't do it. But more importantly, I'd love to have a transmitter in my phone. My very first smart(super, super, superdumb) phone had this. It is cooler than having an IR blaster (which is pretty cool too) imo.
That's about it really. Not a lot sorely missing from the Note 3 except stereo speakers and OIS. Anything else I'd add is either boosted specs, or expensive new tech that has yet to find a footing in the market.
Like others, I'm not too fussed either way about waterproofing. Fingerprint scanning also has just as many cons as it does pros, so meh to that also.
If they're gonna add something fancy, add glasses-free 3D. It will have the power and the resolution for it.
4 GB RAM, we already have 3.
64 GB internal memory and the ability to move apps to SD
I don't understand the desire for dual Micro SD. We can already use the 128 GB.
Now dual SIM would be great for traveling.
Screen that I can use in bright sunlight.
Faster is always better in electronics, isn't it?
Less Touchwiz or the ability to delete stuff without root.
Doesn't need to be any bigger.
When I need bigger I use my Note 8 - where is the new one????
Dual speakers.
I think that's it.
Here's my five cents:
1. A brighter screen like in S5, but full hd resolution is enough I think, no need to race with LG in this.
2. Front stereo speakers like in HTC One and better sound quality with decent headset like in IPhone.
3. I hate curved phones or water resistance etc. since it means we have to sacrifice some good features like front speakers.
4. 4 GB ram with a stronger cpu & gpu and true support to developers for a quality AOSP or CM experience in our phones.
5. A more powerfull battery, I think companies should spend more money in this instead of fancy but useless stuff like heart sensor etc.
6. They should keep replaceable battery and removable sd storage and fight against Google in this; not everyone has to use cloud services for Google to earn money. We use sd cards and need to have the ability to access and use it as we want.
7. OIS and dual flash for camera.
8. I don't know how it's possible with stereo front speakers but hard buttons is a must. I hate losing some part of the screen when using the phone.
This is all for me
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1. Replacable back cover and battery is more than perfect.
2. 1080p display is good for battery life. Bigger battery.
3. Same size as Note 3, but 5.9"- 6" display.
4. Selfhealing material (look at the LG G Flex).
5. I don't need Samsung's crap bloatware.
6. Back cover integrated wireless charging and wireless charger out of the box. If the Note 4 will cost 700 or more euro without contract, i need some accsesories for this price.
7. Latest CPU- GPU at the moment of release with 4Gb of RAM.
8. Minimum 32 storage memory with more than 26Gb available.
9. I don't need KNOX, curved display or water resistant.
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1) Slim bezels on the sides and the top and bottom
2) Stereo-Loudspeakers like HTC Arrive and later copied by the HTC One (but much thinner)
3) A metal kickstand that acts as an antenna (stronger signal) and protects the camera lens from scratching like HTC HD7
4) No physical front buttons
5) A symmetrical phone (top and bottom) design
1. Slimmer bezels
2. Less weight
3. Touch home button, not a hard one
4. A cheaper version with exact same specs and looks but without the pen and digitizer
I've had my SGS4 for over a year now.. and lets just say.. I'm not satisfied with it. I never really have been. I've supported Samsung from having the Galaxy S+ right now up to the S4. Samsung almost lost my support after the design and performance of the terrible S3, however after seeing and hearing of the improvements of the S4 I decided to give them one last chance. Lets just say that they blew that chance and now I want another phone.
In my country of Finland only these top phones are currently available (listed in absolutely no order of preference):
Sony Xperia Z2
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Pros:
Large Battery
3GB RAM
MicroSD
20.7MP Camera
Cons:
Non-removable battery
Slightly slower clocked Krait 400 CPU (2.3Ghz)
Camera quality lacks definitive sharpening (everything looks like paper)
GUI looks terrible
No MicroUSB 3.0
No Infra-red port
Samsung Galaxy S5
Pros:
Best quality camera and video by far, best sharpness and detail but is there an issue with some colours? (shown here)
MicroUSB 3.0
Dust & Water Resistant
2.5 GHz Krait 400
Undoubtedly the best contrast/quality screen in a smartphone
Large removable battery and supposedly good battery life
Infra-red port
Cons:
It's a Samsung phone... and I'm not keen on supporting them again after all the issues I've had with the S3 and S4
Plastic design again, and even uglier backplate this time
2GB RAM vs. 3GB RAM on the Sony Z2 and LG G3
Galaxy S5 Prime / Galaxy F around the corner?
TouchWiz sucks elephant pole
LG G3
Pros:
QHD 1440 x 2560 Display
Good visual look
3GB RAM with the 32GB version
GUI Looks pretty nice
2.5 GHz Krait 400
Large removable battery
Infra-red port
Cons:
Overkill with the Display size? Heat / Lag issues? / Battery life? / Not 'that' stunning?
It's still plastic even if it doesn't look like it
Camera and video quality isn't that amazing and tends to sport a lot of those typical 'squarey' textures in photos
It's reportedly bigger, borderline 'phablet' (tbh I think my Galaxy S4 is large enough)
LG's first attempt at trying to compete with the big boys... ergo. lack of experience in the field?
No MicroUSB 3.0
HTC One M8
Pros:
That awesome design look, by far the most appealing/premium feel
Stereo Speakers that are apparently good
Front facing 5MP camera over all the other's 2/2.1MP
Infra-red port
Cons:
Abysmal camera that is overexposed and etc in regular light, depth stuff doesn't make up for the lack of Megapixels even if low light shots are good. Also the video isn't remotely as good as the other phones
Slightly slower clocked Krait 400 CPU (2.3Ghz)
Smaller non-removable battery
No MicroUSB 3.0
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All of them in Finland are priced around the same amount. €640 - €660. I have to get the phone on a plan and these are the only 4 that I am really considering. I am not interested in Apple phones at all. Terrible iOS, 8MP cameras and smaller non-full HD screens do not remotely interest me. Especially for the premium price tag and ease of smashing them if they drop. But lets not get started on that. In addition I am not interested with Lumia phones at all.
What I use my phone for mostly (in this oder):
Taking many pictures and videos and using the front camera for video & skype
Whatsapp and Viber
Music music and more music
Some small gaming
Maps and GPS use
Email and Web browsing
Youtube and other video stuff
Modding, and stuff I am not supposed to do. dSploit and etc.
My most important things (all of these are top-priority):
I have no interest on getting a proper DSLR/Point-and-shoot camera so I want my phone to have a good camera.
It needs to be lag free, I am paying a premium price
I want the colours and pictures to just jump out at me like WOW
I don't want the company/brand I buy it from trying to make things like modding/xposed/rooting etc. progressively harder for me
Connectivity. Good signal strength, no lags on 3G or 4G
That if it falls, it will not just smash/screen crack on the first mistake
What is not so important:
Battery life, unless it's got a non-removable battery (which I usually auto-hate) because I will just buy another spare battery (if I can)
Warranty options and Customer support (only in the sense of warranty and troubleshooting)
Stuff like fingerprint scanners and heartrate monitors, barometers etc. I don't really care about
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So guys any suggestions? It would help if you do own/have owned the phones I am talking about. I can only get these phones that I have listed so I am not interested in any others. Do you think there is a phone there that would fit the things that I am looking for? Or do you think that I should seriously wait for the Galaxy S 5 Prime / Galaxy F (or whatever it will be called) and then see what differences to the build design/material and hardware there are and make my decision then? Do you think the release will be close by, or are we looking at something like late September (maybe too far away for me).
Sorry for a long thread and hopefully this can help more than one person !
P.S. I've read many reviews and watched many videos on all of the phones listed but they do not constitute really in my opinion 'real world use' that is what I seem to get from XDA forum members. In that we all share the same experiences and problems which is why I am asking here.
Thanks again!
P.S. If a mod thinks that this is in the wrong section or that it should be merged with a larger thread then feel free to do so. I couldn't find really anything using the search option
For me, the short answer is that Sony Z2 is the overall best device (feature wise) of 4 of them.
Based on the facts and your needs:
- You should not choose G3 because it has a QHD display that you will not need. And believe it the screen brightness and quality doesnt look as good as S5 from user reviews.
- You should not choose S5 because its not that pretty and overrated
- You should not choose M8 because simply the only thing is better from other 3 is the astonish aluminium design
On the other hand i will agree on the cons of Sony Z2 you mention but i believe there are minor based on the other 3 devices and your needs. I also dont like the huge bezels in Z2 but this is something i can leave with it. Note that you will hold on your hand a device that is as huge as Lg G3 but is 5.2 inches instead of 5.5
Final words, there is no such a thing as best device. But based on what you wrote Z2 is the overall best for you since it has the greatest camera, very good design, performance and of course dont forget that is waterproof and dustproof device.
lakiscy said:
For me, the short answer is that Sony Z2 is the overall best device (feature wise) of 4 of them.
Based on the facts and your needs:
- You should not choose G3 because it has a QHD display that you will not need. And believe it the screen brightness and quality doesnt look as good as S5 from user reviews.
- You should not choose S5 because its not that pretty and overrated
- You should not choose M8 because simply the only thing is better from other 3 is the astonish aluminium design
On the other hand i will agree on the cons of Sony Z2 you mention but i believe there are minor based on the other 3 devices and your needs. I also dont like the huge bezels in Z2 but this is something i can leave with it. Note that you will hold on your hand a device that is as huge as Lg G3 but is 5.2 inches instead of 5.5
Final words, there is no such a thing as best device. But based on what you wrote Z2 is the overall best for you since it has the greatest camera, very good design, performance and of course dont forget that is waterproof and dustproof device.
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Thanks for such a detailed reply. The Z2 camera doesn't look as good as the S5, and I think that Sony has definitely just tried to push the Megapixel limits without really giving much thought to anything else. The ISO seems to be so much lower in all of the pictures, and all of the colours are very washed out. I could use software on the computer to add more colour to the pictures, but that's kind of time consuming and annoying. In addition to this a lot of people have said that the triluminous display is very flawed in that it glares so heavily in the light and that the screen is riddled with dead pixels and has inherent flaws that cause the screen to deteriorate after even a short time. The lack of removable battery is a let down too and the GUI is terrible and it definitely doesn't feel very comfortable in my hand, though it doesn't feel big either. These are the main reasons why I wasn't really considering it at all. And also why I think I have narrowed it down to just the S5 or the M8.
S5 for the best possible camera for pictures and videos.
I can still get a metal case to hide its ugliness.
Good battery life and power saving modes.
It does the best for what it is, camera is very refined, shooting modes are great and it's blisteringly fast if you get rid of TouchWiz.
It has by far the best screen of any smartphone.
MicroUSB 3.0
Removable battery
M8 for the fact that it looks and feels like a million dollars
It's not a Samdung phone
The Ultrapixel camera would come in handy for certain types of shots and indoor/low light pictures
Lack of removable battery means less messing around with external batteries (still I would prefer removable)
It's lightning fast, charges quickly and the UI looks amazing (but I'd probably still use Themer)
Could be nice to just finally change brands after the long haul of Samsung phones
This is why I lean more to the S5 even though I am really, really put off by Samsung these days.
Otherwise I really, seriously appreciate you taking the time to suggest the Z2. Especially as your first post on the forums.
Thanks so much
leijonasisu said:
Thanks for such a detailed reply. The Z2 camera doesn't look as good as the S5, and I think that Sony has definitely just tried to push the Megapixel limits without really giving much thought to anything else. The ISO seems to be so much lower in all of the pictures, and all of the colours are very washed out. I could use software on the computer to add more colour to the pictures, but that's kind of time consuming and annoying. In addition to this a lot of people have said that the triluminous display is very flawed in that it glares so heavily in the light and that the screen is riddled with dead pixels and has inherent flaws that cause the screen to deteriorate after even a short time. The lack of removable battery is a let down too and the GUI is terrible and it definitely doesn't feel very comfortable in my hand, though it doesn't feel big either. These are the main reasons why I wasn't really considering it at all. And also why I think I have narrowed it down to just the S5 or the M8.
S5 for the best possible camera for pictures and videos.
I can still get a metal case to hide its ugliness.
Good battery life and power saving modes.
It does the best for what it is, camera is very refined, shooting modes are great and it's blisteringly fast if you get rid of TouchWiz.
It has by far the best screen of any smartphone.
MicroUSB 3.0
Removable battery
M8 for the fact that it looks and feels like a million dollars
It's not a Samdung phone
The Ultrapixel camera would come in handy for certain types of shots and indoor/low light pictures
Lack of removable battery means less messing around with external batteries (still I would prefer removable)
It's lightning fast, charges quickly and the UI looks amazing (but I'd probably still use Themer)
Could be nice to just finally change brands after the long haul of Samsung phones
This is why I lean more to the S5 even though I am really, really put off by Samsung these days.
Otherwise I really, seriously appreciate you taking the time to suggest the Z2. Especially as your first post on the forums.
Thanks so much
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Hello, It is my first post because i was searching the same thing on the web and came to your post lol.
It seems that you have already make up your decision and you just need confirmation for it
I dont want to debate on Z2 but most of your points might be special cases but mainly they are all wrong.
While you have narrow your results to S5 and M8 i would just say if you are going to use a case on your phone then just get the S5
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I don't think the issues with the Z2 are special cases. Yeah it might have 3GB of RAM. But it also has no Infra-red device. Read the XDA forums, a lot of people have returned 3 devices in a row for dead pixels and other screen issues. Triluminos doesn't hold a candle to AMOLED anyway. The camera really isn't all that special at all. It might take the biggest pictures, that look really nice zoomed out but the colours are so, so so washed out compared to other phones. It's a fact. Also it feels uncomfortable in my hands, I can't remove the battery. The GUI really actually IS BAD.
In terms of the camera quality. Check this page:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=6144&idPhone2=6033&idPhone3=6294
Then move to the 'colour poster' and look at the difference. The camera has such a low level of sharpness and finite detail to things like hairs and leaves. Namely edges really don't show up at all, it makes the whole picture look like there's absolutely 0 depth what so ever. It looks like a paper print out. That isn't to say that it is a bad camera. It's just not as good as the S5. Images on the Z2 might look a lot more smooth but they are also a lot more washed out in terms of colour.
I really don't like the idea of the S5 at all and I don't want to really support Samsung but I am not paying a premium for a phone that I feel doesn't match the money that I am spending on it, just because I have personal issues with the brand, I'm just speaking on facts in this case. :/
Thanks though, I really appreciate it and I am happy that you seem to have found what phone you want.
EDIT: I got the S5 and I have never been happier, it's improved on every aspect of the S4 that I hated. Just wish it had more RAM.
Dude hi im really happy for you getting the S5. I also decided not to buy Z2 and got G2 because i couldnt resist on the low price of it (270 EUR).
Wish you the best
leijonasisu said:
I don't think the issues with the Z2 are special cases. Yeah it might have 3GB of RAM. But it also has no Infra-red device. Read the XDA forums, a lot of people have returned 3 devices in a row for dead pixels and other screen issues. Triluminos doesn't hold a candle to AMOLED anyway. The camera really isn't all that special at all. It might take the biggest pictures, that look really nice zoomed out but the colours are so, so so washed out compared to other phones. It's a fact. Also it feels uncomfortable in my hands, I can't remove the battery. The GUI really actually IS BAD.
In terms of the camera quality. Check this page:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=6144&idPhone2=6033&idPhone3=6294
Then move to the 'colour poster' and look at the difference. The camera has such a low level of sharpness and finite detail to things like hairs and leaves. Namely edges really don't show up at all, it makes the whole picture look like there's absolutely 0 depth what so ever. It looks like a paper print out. That isn't to say that it is a bad camera. It's just not as good as the S5. Images on the Z2 might look a lot more smooth but they are also a lot more washed out in terms of colour.
I really don't like the idea of the S5 at all and I don't want to really support Samsung but I am not paying a premium for a phone that I feel doesn't match the money that I am spending on it, just because I have personal issues with the brand, I'm just speaking on facts in this case. :/
Thanks though, I really appreciate it and I am happy that you seem to have found what phone you want.
EDIT: I got the S5 and I have never been happier, it's improved on every aspect of the S4 that I hated. Just wish it had more RAM.
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You know every time I see someone bashing the z2's camera it always turns out that they get their info from gsmarena. No wonder you've always gone with Samsung. They're notorious Sammy promoters. There are a lot of other techblogs, pocketnow, CNET, android authority, the verge, etc that all preferred the z2's camera.
For as long as you keep relying on gsmarena, you'll always stick to Samsung
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Hehehe you're hacker
You should go for HTC M8 !
2,3 Ghz is enough for a CPU
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