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Hey, I'm kind of a noob here. Where do I get fastboot.exe from? Im stuck on step 11 in the "[UNLOCK] AT&T Bootloader Unlock Through HTC-Dev" thread
you need to download the android sdk, it has it in there as stated in the htcdev unlocking instructions
Thanks, I was able to get it to work once the one click unlock tool was posted.
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Stupid questions but I can't seem to find simple answers:
a) do I need to be on a specific FW version or have a specific bootloader to unlock?
b) how do I tell what version I have?
c) does/can this get rid of the "tampered" on the bootloader screen?
d) does/can this give us full S-Off?
I'm assuming you're on the HTCDEV part because if you're not using the tool and you're asking this question you're doing it wrong.
that being said, it should come in the android SDK, if it doesn't then just copy the exe file out of the tool folder that you unzipped.
Edit, I see you already got it answered.
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xeper said:
Stupid questions but I can't seem to find simple answers:
a) do I need to be on a specific FW version or have a specific bootloader to unlock?
b) how do I tell what version I have?
c) does/can this get rid of the "tampered" on the bootloader screen?
d) does/can this give us full S-Off?
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a) do I need to be on a specific FW version or have a specific bootloader to unlock?
--- i did it on 1.7, although I think 1.82 works
b) how do I tell what version I have?
--- settings > about phone > Software
c) does/can this get rid of the "tampered" on the bootloader screen?
----- absolutely not, look at the screenshots on the OP in the dev section
d) does/can this give us full S-Off?
-----no
HydroSkillet said:
I'm assuming you're on the HTCDEV part because if you're not using the tool and you're asking this question you're doing it wrong.
that being said, it should come in the android SDK, if it doesn't then just copy the exe file out of the tool folder that you unzipped.
Edit, I see you already got it answered.
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a) do I need to be on a specific FW version or have a specific bootloader to unlock?
--- i did it on 1.7, although I think 1.82 works
b) how do I tell what version I have?
--- settings > about phone > Software
c) does/can this get rid of the "tampered" on the bootloader screen?
----- absolutely not, look at the screenshots on the OP in the dev section
d) does/can this give us full S-Off?
-----no
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Thanks for the info.
Another couple of dumb questions:
Will we ever be able to get rid of that "tampered" notice?
How does that notice effect me should my phone, say, fall and break its screen or have some other hardware-related failure? (I'm a klutz)
What does SuperCID mean and how does that effect me?
xeper said:
Thanks for the info.
Another couple of dumb questions:
Will we ever be able to get rid of that "tampered" notice?
How does that notice effect me should my phone, say, fall and break its screen or have some other hardware-related failure? (I'm a klutz)
What does SuperCID mean and how does that effect me?
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Maybe, who knows on the "tampered" and yea you void your warranty so if you are afraid of hardware failure then don't do it, or but insurance on it. That's what I have, if I brick it cost me 100.00 rather than 600.00.
"Waiting for device"
Every attempt and different ways always brings me to that part. I have does the oneClick supercid program and I've even gone through the HTCDEV website 6 times now. after it reboots into boot loader mode and I direct it to the folder with the 3 files in it through cmd and I get to the final step to where it says "Waiting for device" trying to get the cid codes for my phone and nothing. I am at the end of my ropes of how to unlock codes. if anyone can help me or walk me through via text or video I would be so happy. I just want this thing finally unlocked and over with.
I take it your on this step?
11. Type "dd if=/sdcard/mmcblk0p4MOD of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4" and hit enter. To test if it worked restart the phone into fastboot (type "adb reboot bootloader" and hit enter) and once the bootloader screen comes up type "fastboot oem readcid" and hit enter. It should read "11111111".
12. Next type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" and hit enter. Leave that up on your screen and go to HTCdev.com. Follow the instructions from there. Choose "All other supported models" from the dropdown menu.
If so, Step 11 is kinda tricky worded after you type the command to reboot the device. Just don't even wait put the second line in "fastboot oem readcid" the batch file will wait for the phone. I hope this helps ya I had the same problem before And booted the phone back up and tried again but last time I just rebooted with the command then right after than put in the second command.
xeper said:
Thanks for the info.
Another couple of dumb questions:
Will we ever be able to get rid of that "tampered" notice?
How does that notice effect me should my phone, say, fall and break its screen or have some other hardware-related failure? (I'm a klutz)
What does SuperCID mean and how does that effect me?
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Devs will find a way to remove tampered label once we find S-OFF. After the device has been "tampered", if your phone breaks and you send it to HTC warranty, they will not replace your phone if you have flashed a custom ROM on it. How they know you've flashed a custon ROM, I'm not sure.
SuperCID is the development CID designed to work on HTC phones. It allows you to unlock your bootloader through HTCDev.com. It also allows you to flash RUUs, because RUUs check CIDs on phones to determine whether the RUU is a valid ROM for your phone. However, it has been said this is hit/miss.
Don't take my exact word for it, use GOOGLE.COM.
I waited for the one-click tools, and I'm glad I did.
Forgot to mention
my Main computer is my iMac and I have a windows 7 laptop I switch to for my flashing/rooting etc... because I am not good with terminal or adb steps after a few seizures I've had recently. So shell stuff is completely useless to me. I can follow the steps on the briefmobile website then I have the HTCDEV account. but still at a lost.. for some reason.
I never got a 1111111 or whatever message
It just went straight to "Waiting for/on device" I tried again even attempted somewhat the hex edit way. but I never saw any "CW__111" or whatever in the file that I threw into HxE I think that was the hex program I used on my laptop. To frustrated to check in other room. I even kept looking at 210 section and nothing. So I'm not sure what is going on that won't let me unlock. Maybe I'll check youtube to see if there is a video on unlocking the bootloader.
hazmatik said:
It just went straight to "Waiting for/on device" I tried again even attempted somewhat the hex edit way. but I never saw any "CW__111" or whatever in the file that I threw into HxE I think that was the hex program I used on my laptop. To frustrated to check in other room. I even kept looking at 210 section and nothing. So I'm not sure what is going on that won't let me unlock. Maybe I'll check youtube to see if there is a video on unlocking the bootloader.
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You should just use the one-click Super-CID tool in the Developers section, it's much faster and hassle free.
Thanks but that option never succeeded
I finally got it to unlock and get past that "Waiting for device issue" it seems even though I had my device plugged in and all the android and HTC drivers installed, it never registered that it could sense android 1.0 plugged in. so I had to manually right click and force it to install the drivers and it finally found device. low and behold it clicked and I got my email instantly right afterwards. So now I need how on installing CWM any ideas how to? be I am wanting to try out Team nocturnal's Rom for a little bit to see what it has to offer. Thanks for comment also by the way.
please help me. i dont know what to do with this cell... anyhow i managed to get it into this screen...
it would keep restarting after displaying htc quietly brilliant.
i have no idea what was done to this cell as i got it lying around in my closet.
What do you mean you got it lying around in my closet? You don't know what you did to it in the past?
Sent from my Evita
no actually my cousin might have screwed up my cell and kept it back...
timmaaa said:
What do you mean you got it lying around in my closet? You don't know what you did to it in the past?
Sent from my Evita
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Well I think the first thing you should do is talk to your cousin and find out exactly what he did to the device, then you can report back here.
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is there any other way through which we can come to know what can be done??? such as an odin thing which i used to do in my samsung note 1 or 3???
timmaaa said:
Well I think the first thing you should do is talk to your cousin and find out exactly what he did to the device, then you can report back here.
Sent from my Evita
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To know what needs to be done I need to know the history of the device. Odin is Samsung only, there is no HTC equivalent. Who got the phone to this point, you or your cousin? You need to find out what he's done.
Sent from my Evita
Well, one problem is that the screen is cracked.
Seriously though, the phone for some reason or other cannot load into the OS, and is stuck in bootloader. Other than that, not much else can be determined if you don't know the history of what was done.
pvirus86 said:
is there any other way through which we can come to know what can be done??? such as an odin thing which i used to do in my samsung note 1 or 3???
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Nope. You need to know the history of the device. There is an HTC-specific recovery utility. But running it on a device with unknown history can brick the phone permanently. Particularly since the device is definitely tampered (as shown on the first line of the screen).
Also, the phone's IMEI is personal information, and should not be posted on the internet. You should edit the photo to hide the IMEI.
Unlock your bootloader. Sometimes if you have custom installed or fragments of a custom ROM on the device it will boot directly into your bootloader. After unlocking your bootloader you can install a recovery image and sideload a ROM.
yes i asked my brother and he is saying he doesnt remember what he had done to it... if anyone can show me a way to do something ill try it... or else should i take it to some shop to get it fixed.... which would cost me... but first i wanted to get my hands over d expert advise of u all
Return the phone to stock and never let your brother touch any electronic device of yours again.
Sent from my Evita
but can you let me know to revert it to stock. and will i have to do it from windows 7 or my mac os wud work???
pvirus86 said:
but can you let me know to revert it to stock. and will i have to do it from windows 7 or my mac os wud work???
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This phone is in a dangerous state.. Running the RUU in this state could brick the phone (make it permanantly unusable without a jtag). Though typically that is how one would return a phone to stock.. to be honest, the safest thing to do would be to unlock the bootloader, flash a rom, S-OFF and then return it to stock. If these seem like foreign terms to you, you have a lot of reading to do. Your phone is in a tough spot right now ESPECIALLY not knowing the history regarding what was done. You would need the bootloader unlock token to reunlock that phone if you don't have it, there's very little chance of safely returning that phone to stock.
pvirus86 said:
yes i asked my brother and he is saying he doesnt remember what he had done to it...
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Brother or cousin, or both? It seems you don't even know who has been messing with your phone. And the person(s) messing with it don't have a clue what they are doing. So its no wonder the phone is in the state it is.
Agree with above that RUU is risky. Better to s-off the phone first.
Thank u all for the prompt replies, I have played with Samsung but not with HTC. But I can try to unlock the bootloader n turn d s-off. Can I get an step guide for HTC. The thing was I have many cellphone that I buy and use it very rarely. Majority I use is my note 3.
pvirus86 said:
Thank u all for the prompt replies, I have played with Samsung but not with HTC. But I can try to unlock the bootloader not turn d s-off. Can I get an step guide for HTC. The thing was I have many cellphone that I buy and use it very rarely. Majority I use is my note 3.
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There are detailed instructions available at htcdev for unlocking your bootloader. Once you've done that you need to flash a custom recovery, then you can flash root, then you can get s-off. Check my How-To Guide For Beginners thread, the link is in my signature.
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pvirus86 said:
Thank u all for the prompt replies, I have played with Samsung but not with HTC. But I can try to unlock the bootloader n turn d s-off. Can I get an step guide for HTC. The thing was I have many cellphone that I buy and use it very rarely. Majority I use is my note 3.
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Every device manufaccturer/model has different root methods. If you want to root the phone, you have to put the time in to learn the correct process. There is no shortcut. You won't find a step-by-step guide for the entire process, because of the different carrier version and firmware updates (root method, etc. differs for each). But all the resources you need are sticky at the top of either this Q&A forum section, or General section.
hi i tried to get to unlock the bootloader from the HTCDEV site. first of all the HTC ONE X wasnt on the list so i selected other supported devices
then followed the steps and got the following error
Error Code: 160.
Error Reason: MID Not Allowed.
now what does this mean??
That means you have the original CID still, which means you should be able to run the 3.18 RUU without any problems. Check your CID by issuing this fastboot command:
Code:
fastboot oem readcid
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yes i had issued this command after finding it in one of the websites and this was the result which i got
cid: CWS__001
or cid: c??__001
i forgot the exact two letter after C. i think it was CWS
You have the original at&t CID. That means you can run the 3.18 RUU without having to unlock the bootloader and get s-off first.
Sent from my Evita
disclaimer!
*this thread is not intending to promote the sale of any particular service or cell phone reseller.
*this thread is intended to provide info only. any questions,please ask,some i may add to the FAQ.
*please abide by all forum rules in posting so this thread can remain open
this method uses an official htc java card to turn off the phones security data. the card exists as a legitimate tool for cell phone shops and re-sellers,primarily for the purpose of removing the phones simlock.
since this method of s off is somewhat unusual,this thread is intended to help support folks that are unsure of the differences and similarities. use this info at your own risk.
in this first post,i thot a few FAQs needed to be put in one place,as they are being asked over and over again in the thread.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: what is s off?what does it do for me?
A: in a nutshell,s-off=security off. it removes all security checks and allows access to all partitions of the phone this means you can:
-change hboot
-change splash inage
-change radios
-flash unsigned files
-go backwards in firmware versions
-other things that maybe ill add later
Q: is this java card process legit??
A:yes,it is. as mentioned above,the java card is a legitimate tool used by some large cell phone repair shops and re-sellers.
Q: how does this work?
A:the java card is plugged into a USB On The Go cable,and plugged into the phone. the java card contains htc-signed diagnostic files wich are used to clear security data. when the phone is booted to hboot with the java card plugged in,it finds the diagnostic file and jumps to a mode where the user can clear "s58" data. this removes any simlock,changes the CID to a generic "supercid",and most importantly,turns off the phones radio secure flag. hooray!
this video of an htc one x will give you a good idea what the process looks like:
HTC One X S-OFF
Q: what exactly is a java card?
A: simply,a java card is an sd card with a microprocessor in it. if someone wishes to provide a more detailed definition,id be happy to put it here.
Q: can we clone the java card so everyone can have s off?
A: yes. but its complicated,and the card to begin with is expensive. there have been some technical discussions about this,but the simple answer is that it is not easy,or practical to clone the java card.
Q: why do i have to pay for this?? shouldnt s off be free?
A: if you have a prollem paying for this service,you are welcome to purchase your own java card and offer the service for free. as has been stated,the java card is expensive- upwards of $1000 depending how may credits are included.
further,even if a software exploit was available,it is good custom to donate to the devs who brought you the tool. remember,no one here owes you custom roms,s-off,etc. support your devs and what they bring you.
Q: is the card good forever?
A: NO! the java card has a limited number of uses.
Q: how do i use this service?
A: you will need to track down a phone shop or reseller that has a card. these are not common,but are available in most countries with some searching.
Q: if im allready unlocked,should i still get s off?
A: in my opinion,yes. wether done via a java card or software exploit,s off is better. it allows more options to recover soft-bricked devices,and allows access to all partitions. an s on phone is still doing plenty of security checks. it also allows a permantly installed recovery to install the boot image. the downside is that your phone WILL let you brick it if your not careful. know what your flashing and why. double check md5 sums to verify the integrity of your downloads. a corrupt bootloader ot radio can damage your phone,potentially unrecoverably. if you just asked "what is an md5sum?" stop and google it now. there are numerous md5summers avaialable for free on the vast interweb,download one and start using it.
Q: if im allready unlocked and running a custom rom and recovery,do i need to take any precautions?
A: yes. the diag file is designed to work on stock software and firmware. i would strongly recomend to:
-restore a bone stock nandroid,or flash a bone stock rom
-reflash your stock recovery
-reflash your stock boot image if you were running a custom kernel
-select 'factory reset' option from hboot
Q: will this wipe my phone?
A: yes it will. so back up your sd card to the pc,and be prepaired to have to re-set everything up when you get it back.
Q: does my phone need to be active?
A: no it does not.
Q: does my sim card need to be present?
A: no it does not.
Q: how do i activate a spare phone while mine is away?
A:it depends on the phone. if you have a gsm phone,or a 4g vzw phone,you can simply swap over your active sim. if the sim is larger in the spare phone,adapters do exist for extremely cheap on ebay and amazon. alternately,you can call vzw,sprint,or your other cdma carriers, or go to their website to activate an older 3g device.
Q: how do i activate my phone when it comes back?
A: like you normally would. s off by itself does not change anything about the phone or how it oporates. its what you do afterward/modify that can have an impact on "normal" operation. so if you moved your sim into another phone,just move it back. if you mailed your phone directly to a reseller with the protective film still on it,then take everything out of the box and activate just like you would if it had just come from htc or your carrier.
Q: if my phone was carrier blocked by htc dev,will i be able to unlock the bootloader if my phone is s off?
A: yes. when the phone comes back,it will have "supercid". this ignores the mid(model id) check that htcdev does on the phone,and will let you get a token and unlock.
Q: are there advantages to unlocking the bootloader?
A: you have a couple extra fastboot commands you can use:
fastboot flash partition imagename.img
and
fastboot boot imagename.img
these commands are useful to install recovery,and boot images into phone memory. with fastboot bootfor example,you can temporarily launch recovery on the phone to flash su if you dont want to permantly install it.
Q: so do i NEED to unlock the bootloader to install recovery?
A: no,you do not. you can install recoveries and all other partitions as zip files. more info on that later.
Q: does superCID give you any benefits?
A: in a word,maybe. on a gsm device where you have multiple carrier and regional firmwares that will work,supercid is of value. with a device on vzw sprint,or other cdma carriers using specific firmware,you can only use those specific ruus anyway. further,accepting an OTA with supercid could leave you unrecoverably bricked,plus it may interfer some some verizon functions(i remember inc 4g users having issue,but the details escape me)
IMO,after unlocking your bootloader,if you choose to do so,you should change your CID back to stock VZW__001 (thats 2 underscores- cid is always 8 digits),HTC__001(again 2 underscores) or whatever it happened to be.
Q: is my cid unique to my particulare phone?
A: no,it is not. it is unique to a carrier or region. all verizon phones ever made have a cid of VZW__001
Q: how do i change my cid back to stock?
A: with this fastboot command:
fastboot oem writecid xxxxxxxx
Q: why is my cid always present on the hboot screen?
A: i dont know htc's logic,but this is simply what the phone does while its s off. it will display whatever your cid is,and is not dependent of your bootloader being locked or unlocked.
Q: what about the TAMPERED and unlocked/relocked badges?
A: if your phone was unlocked when you sent it in, youll get it back factory fresh locked. the tampered badge,i am unsure of at this time,and will update as more info is obtained.
if you sent in a brand new phone,it obviously wont be different(with exception of s off)
one of the big advantages of s off,is that the tampered flag is not triggered by adding a custom recovery or kernel,and since s off removes the various write protections that exist,it is posible to reset either flag. more info on the lock status flag here
Q: will an OTA change my s-off or lock status?
A: it is possible. altho,it is highly unlikely since turning the radio secure flags on via an OTA would also do so on legitimate pre-release test phones.
however...
it really is not reccomended that you try and take an OTA while rooted. a custom recovery is unable to install HTC's OTA pacakage,and attempting to do so ca jam you up horribly. taking an OTA with bloat and system files remove will typicaly result in failure,and taking an OTA with supercid could lead to a processor "do not boot" mode,wich is very effectively a hard brick only recoverable via jtag. or a new device.
the best way to update a rooted device is to update the rom with a recovery-flashable zip file,and the firmware extracted from the OTA package. this will update you just like taking the OTA. there is nothing magical about over the air updates. please,just do it manually. leave the OTAs for the stock crowd.
last and not least!
Q:what do i do once i get back my stock,s-off phone?
A: please see post 2
once you have recieved your stock,s off device back,your basic steps are:
1)change CID/MID back to stock
2)install a recovery
3)install a rom or root access
you have 2 options to install recovery:
1)unlock the bootloader and use fastboot commands
2)leave the bootloader locked,and flash a recovery as a zip file in RUU mode
either way works. i personally always keep my bootloader unlocked so i can use fastboot commands,but that is a personal preference.
to "root by recovery" is not a new concept. once there are no write protections,its easy to install a custom recovery,and use that recovery to either insert the superuser files into the stock rom,or replace the rom entirely.
1) change cid back to stock
this is actually very easy. simply put the phone in fastboot,change to fastboot directory,and enter in a cmd window:
fastboot oem writecid xxxxxxxx
in the case of vzw:
fastboot oem writecid VZW__001
yes,those must be capital letters,and there are 2 underscores.
2) install a recovery
via one of these 2 methods:
1)unlock the bootloader
your phone has come back from sonic with "supercid",wich will allow you to unlock the bootloader natuarally via the htcdev website. see this post for a bit more info on that.
unlocking the bootloader is fairly straightforward,just make sure you use a vzw one specific image. download from one of the following threads:
*links provided when available
the image is easily installed via an unlocked bootloader with the following command:
fastboot flash recovery imagename.img
for example,recovery named CW_touch_recovery:
fastboot flash recovery CW_touch_recovery.img
the image must be in your fastboot working directory.
if you need more specific help with unlock/recovery flashing you can use this guide.
2) keep locked bootloader
the bootloader can stay locked for this method. you can in fact use this to install a new image to any partition,as long as the image is packed up in a proper file.
this assumes a working adb/fastboot and drivers installed. if you dont have these things,you can use this guide from above,downloading the files in post 1,and following the set up adb and prepair to root part in step 2.
once you have adb and fastboot working,download one of the following recovery zip files. do NOT unzip or extract.
*links provided when available
your zip file is flashed in the following manner:
if youre working with a booted,operational phone,you can flsh the file in the following manner:
-open a cmd window
-change to adb/fastboot directory
cd c:\foldername
(cd c:\mini-adb if youve used any of my guides )
-place the zip file you want to flash into adb/fastboot directory
-enable usb debug,disable fastboot,plug in phone
-check for connectivity
adb devices (should return serial number)
-boot to fastboot
adb reboot bootloader
-check for connectivity again
fastboot devices
-flash the file
fastboot erase cache
fastboto oem rebootRUU (will put you in ruu mode,black screen silver htc letters)
fastboot flash zip zipfilename.zip (will send and flash the file. dont interupt it while the cmd window shows its writinging,and the green status bar is moving on the phone screen)
*sometimes a file will fail with a pre-update error. this is normal,just enter again:
fastboot flash zip zipfilename.zip
and this time it will finish
-when you get "finished" and "OK"
fastboot reboot-bootloader (takes you back to fastboot)
-reboot back to the OS
fastbooot reboot
you can use this if you dont have an operational phone as well. you just need to manually put the phone in fastboot(select from hboot menu) then skip the "adb" commands and start with fastboot devices
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3) install a rom or root access
this is a simple matter of using recovery to either flash superuser,or flash a new rom. in either case,MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR STOCK UNROOTED ROM!
flash superuser just as you would a rom,after a cache/dalvik wipe. theres tons of info out there on using recovery,so im not going in to great detail on that here.
i dont have this device(well,i dont have the vzw version) so dont ask me whats the best rom to flash. browse the development and original development sections and pick a couple out to try.
if you wish to just run rooted stock,i perosnally prefer superSU to other versions of superuser. you can download it from this thread
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optional:
if you sent in your phone with a custom recovery installed,and it still is displaying the tampered banner,see this thread to remove it:
*link provided when available
if you want to lock,or unlock your bootloader without messing with htcdev,see this thread for those directions:
*link provided when available
if you want to restore your supermid from 0P6B2**** back to stock ,see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51677666
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*work in progress. there will likely be some revisions,but i wanted to get something up for the folks whose devices are coming back
I'm serious considering doing this, if only just so I can have full root. I understand that there won't be any developer support or roms until someone achieves a software exploit. But it would be nice to be able to flash full root.
One question though: I don't have much experience with HTC devices as I always used Samsung before but I'm tired of their locked bootloaders. Basically my question is, one method of s-off is as good as another right? S-off is s-off? And it won't effect my ability to get s-on again? Or use other people's methods for recovery/root and s-off/s-on right?
nicholi2789 said:
I'm serious considering doing this, if only just so I can have full root. I understand that there won't be any developer support or roms until someone achieves a software exploit. But it would be nice to be able to flash full root.
One question though: I don't have much experience with HTC devices as I always used Samsung before but I'm tired of their locked bootloaders. Basically my question is, one method of s-off is as good as another right? S-off is s-off? And it won't effect my ability to get s-on again? Or use other people's methods for recovery/root and s-off/s-on right?
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Once you are S-Off u are S-Off unless you really screw something up but I have NEVER had any issues and I have owned 4 HTC devices with S-Off via exploits. S-Off is where it's at! Period Will have mine early next week with a Java S-Off... :good: And, we will have a recovery soon enough for our variant so it's just a matter of time before you can flash full root from recovery and then you are good to go. We probably won't see much development until enough people or devs get S-Off or unlocked bootloader. Time will tell but it WILL happen.
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Once you are S-Off u are S-Off unless you really screw something up but I have NEVER had any issues and I have owned 4 HTC devices with S-Off via exploits. S-Off is where it's at! Period Will have mine early next week with a Java S-Off... :good: And, we will have a recovery soon enough for our variant so it's just a matter of time before you can flash full root from recovery and then you are good to go. We probably won't see much development until enough people or devs get S-Off or unlocked bootloader. Time will tell but it WILL happen.
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Thanks for the response. Yeah I've been reading up on S-OFF and all the things you can do to HTC devices since before I got the M8 and still had my S4. I just haven't done any of it yet. It really seems like S-OFF is the only way to go if you want to have complete device freedom. Never had to have anything special to flash radios on Sammy devices. Anyways, yeah I have full faith that we will get S-OFF via an exploit sooner or later. That's why I chose the M8. Because in the past, no matter what, HTC devices always have bootloader exploits it seems like, or at least some development.
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i think they dont want a name given
it also might be the grey market that java cards are. 1/2 this FAQ is not factual, but what do I know? *wink*
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it also might be the grey market that java cards are. 1/2 this FAQ is not factual, but what do I know? *wink*
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What is not factual? I'd be happy to correct anything that is not.
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scotty1223 said:
What is not factual? I'd be happy to correct anything that is not.
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well, not to go too deep, javacards at the price you posted, are clones of real ones, sold on the grey market. not necessarily legal, using NDA covered files.
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well, not to go too deep, javacards at the price you posted, are clones of real ones, sold on the grey market. not necessarily legal, using NDA covered files.
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That number was for a small credit card from the UK. It was supposed to be legit, but I obviously can't prove or verify it.
Thanks for the info
For the record, my main intention is to provide info about the mechanics. Not really trying provide cost or purchase info
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scotty1223 said:
That number was for a small credit card from the UK. It was supposed to be legit, but I obviously can't prove or verify it.
Thanks for the info
For the record, my main intention is to provide info about the mechanics. Not really trying provide cost or purchase info
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So, how do I know if my phone was S-Off'd via a java card or Firewater? What is the difference? TIA
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So, how do I know if my phone was S-Off'd via a java card or Firewater? What is the difference? TIA
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If it comes back supercid and supermid,then it was s offed via the java card. If cid and mid are correct you have no way of knowing for sure,since the cid and mid are easily restored
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If it comes back supercid and supermid,then it was s offed via the java card. If cid and mid are correct you have no way of knowing for sure,since the cid and mid are easily restored
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I'm not sure but from pics I seen of exploit don't it throw the tampered flag? As last time I used java card that was not the case
I know that can be restored. I'm guessing he restored cid mid because there were people complaining that he should change this back if you use his services. Just a total guess
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If it comes back supercid and supermid,then it was s offed via the java card. If cid and mid are correct you have no way of knowing for sure,since the cid and mid are easily restored
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That's my dilemma here... Mine came back yesterday with cid and mid correct.
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I'm not sure but from pics I seen of exploit don't it throw the tampered flag? As last time I used java card that was not the case
I know that can be restored. I'm guessing he restored cid mid because there were people complaining that he should change this back if you use his services. Just a total guess
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the java card will not throw the tampered flag. the exploit... i dont think so,but im not 100% sure.
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That's my dilemma here... Mine came back yesterday with cid and mid correct and I am a tad skeptical.
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i would assume that he corrected the cid and mid in order to provide better service. sorry i cant think of any other ways to know for sure.
Me either but I will discuss this elsewhere . Thanks
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i would assume that he corrected the cid and mid in order to provide better service. sorry i cant think of any other ways to know for sure.
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That is what he said to me he did.
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I have to do a 14 day exchange on my phone. Bought it at Best Buy. I have a few dead pixels amongst other things. I'm very familiar with ADB, bootloader, custom recovery, and OS. Right now, my M8 is unlocked, s-off , and rooted. It's running a custom rooted RUU Rom. Before I attempt it, what would be the best way to get my phone back to its original state? Does Best Buy even care? Does my account get linked to HTC when it is sent back and I'm charged $600 for it being s-off? If I understand it correctly, and I'm asking if this is right, I would want to find and download and flash the original RUU through ADB, find and type in a line of code to Lock bootloader, and find and type in a line of code to s-on, right? Or does best buy not even check or care?
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I have to do a 14 day exchange on my phone. Bought it at Best Buy. I have a few dead pixels amongst other things. I'm very familiar with ADB, bootloader, custom recovery, and OS. Right now, my M8 is unlocked, s-off , and rooted. It's running a custom rooted RUU Rom. Before I attempt it, what would be the best way to get my phone back to its original state? Does Best Buy even care? Does my account get linked to HTC when it is sent back and I'm charged $600 for it being s-off? If I understand it correctly, and I'm asking if this is right, I would want to find and download and flash the original RUU through ADB, find and type in a line of code to Lock bootloader, and find and type in a line of code to s-on, right? Or does best buy not even check or care?
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You should check out Scotty's thread in this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729139
He is quite knowledgeable and gives a good discussion of what steps are appropriate/reasonable/safe to take in these situations.
Ok, I'll check out it. I also found this to install rooted original firmware back onto the HTC M8, it might help with my situation, or it might help with others http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727831
First of all:
I'm no Dev...just someone who likes to play lego.
From this point of view everything I post here is taken from somewhere else in the Internet and used by your own risk.
I've read a good startup here.
Hopefully this makes this thread clear enough so that i dont need to describe the whole procedure step by step.
(https://www.naldotech.com/root-samsung-galaxy-z-flip-3-5g-magisk/)
(1.OEM-Unlock,2.BL-Unlock,3.extract boot.img,4.patch boot.img via magisk on the unrooted mobile,5.patch boot.img.tar to AP&BL via Odin, 6.pray)
Anyways...here are maybe small hints to avoid a few traps.
a) Just do the oem-unlock in the dev-options (enabled by tapping buildnumber 5 times) is just half of the rent.
Afterwards i had to go in Download-mode (switch of mobile, press volUp+volDown and connect PC-cable.)
There appears a possibility of choice.
Press VolUp short: get the mobile on standby to flash the rom via odin.
Press VolUp LOONG: get the mobile to the menu where the bootloader can finally get unlocked. (Otherwhise every try to patch a rooted img will be blocked by bootloader-protection.)
Of course this can possibly be done via adb/fastboot commands.
Funny side note: OEM-Unlock-option will completely disappear from Dev-options and waranty is lost. Also the mobile stops to get Updates OTA which means that you have to update manually whenever a new version will appear in the net.
b) patching boot.img via magisk should work as described in many other magisk-rooting-manuals.
Flashing the tar back to the mobile via odin was little bit tricky.
It doesnt reach out just to provide the magisk_patched.tar to Odin just on the AB-line.
I had to patch it to BL too.
Cheers
MikGx
When you boot into bootloader after unlocking, is the message something about "a custom OS can cause critical problems"?
As it stands now, the only reason I have to believe the US bootloader can't be unlocked (or isn't already) was the lack of an OEM unlock button and some cranky kid on the internet saying it hasn't been possible since the S7.
It doesn't make sense why I would have a warning about a custom OS if there is no possible way to install one, though.
@boot into bootloader after unlocking it...:
Yess you are right. Thats exactly the message.
Then you can enter the Device unlock mode again (long press VolUp) to lock bootloader again (then it resets automaticaly to factory-defaults and all work is gone.)
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continue to flash something (short press VolUp).
Dont know about the US versions. Could be that there is a difference to my EU-models.
But either i rooted nearly every every mobile since the S2
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@boot into bootloader after unlocking it...:
Yess you are right. Thats exactly the message.
Then you can enter the Device unlock mode again (long press VolUp) to lock bootloader again (then it resets automaticaly to factory-defaults and all work is gone.)
or
continue to flash something (short press VolUp).
Dont know about the US versions. Could be that there is a difference to my EU-models.
But either i rooted nearly every every mobile since the S2
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I think you misunderstood what I was asking, but ended up answering it anyway.
It seems the message about installing custom OS versions may be a boilerplate for the bootloader, not any indication that it's possible.
naldotech.com, the link you provide is pretty clear about the process. What it doesnt say is what to do at the end. When you untick "reboot" in odin, and you finish flashing, your phone will stay in download mode. Then what to do?. Press power and volume down to leave and restart the phone? or, power and volume down, screen goes black imediately power and volume up, enter recovery and restart from there.? please someone ?
Press the power and volume down buttons for about 7 seconds and it will reboot
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Press the power and volume down buttons for about 7 seconds and it will reboot
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I did as you mention but it didnt work. It made me reset the system. But I Fallowed the naldotech.com guide. At the end, being in dawnload mode, I pressed power and volume down, when the screen got black I pressed power and volumen up, I entered recovery mod, cleared cache and re- started the system: Voila my phone is rooted
Hello.
Can someone pleas provide a working link for frija download? The one referring from naldotech seems to be broken (https://www.naldotech.com/download-samsung-galaxy-stock-firmware-frija-tool/)
Update: Found a link via google -> https://technastic.com/odin-download-samsung-latest-all-versions/
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When you boot into bootloader after unlocking, is the message something about "a custom OS can cause critical problems"?
As it stands now, the only reason I have to believe the US bootloader can't be unlocked (or isn't already) was the lack of an OEM unlock button and some cranky kid on the internet saying it hasn't been possible since the S7.
It doesn't make sense why I would have a warning about a custom OS if there is no possible way to install one, though.
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The USA version (snapdragon soc) can't be rooted as far as I know. There is no way to unlock the bootloader in dev options, at least on Verizon and that holds true even if you bought a unlocked phone. As soon as you insert a Verizon sim and the phone updates it's all over.
I had the same issue with the original Pixel. I bought it unlocked but before rooting it I allowed it to update like a fool. Luckily my son wanted the same phone so I gave him mine then rooted and installed TWRP before putting a Verizon sim in.
Back to Samsung...as far as I know you haven't been able to root the USA version since the note 8. The rest of the planet gets the Exynos SOC but we get the snapdragon and no root method works. My note 9, 10+ and z Flip3 didn't have an unlock bootloader option even before putting a sim in it.
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The USA version (snapdragon soc) can't be rooted as far as I know. There is no way to unlock the bootloader in dev options, at least on Verizon and that holds true even if you bought a unlocked phone. As soon as you insert a Verizon sim and the phone updates it's all over.
I had the same issue with the original Pixel. I bought it unlocked but before rooting it I allowed it to update like a fool. Luckily my son wanted the same phone so I gave him mine then rooted and installed TWRP before putting a Verizon sim in.
Back to Samsung...as far as I know you haven't been able to root the USA version since the note 8. The rest of the planet gets the Exynos SOC but we get the snapdragon and no root method works. My note 9, 10+ and z Flip3 didn't have an unlock bootloader option even before putting a sim in it.
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I think you misunderstood what I was asking, but ended up answering it anyway.
It seems the message about installing custom OS versions may be a boilerplate for the bootloader, not any indication that it's possible.
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I have to be a little skeptical when my rooted Note 8 came out a year after the S7. There are other reasons, but they tend to make the trolls restless. We'll skip them.
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I have to be a little skeptical when my rooted Note 8 came out a year after the S7. There are other reasons, but they tend to make the trolls restless. We'll skip them.
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Ok I might be off by a year or 2 but I can say with 100% certainty that the note 9, 10, 10+ and flip3 don't have an unlock bootloader option.
I bought all 4 from Samsung all unlocked and not tied to any carrier. First boot with no sim I checked dev options and there was no option to unlock the bootloader. My note 9 might have had the option in the menu but it was grayed out and I couldn't find anyway to make it work.
A quick Google search for rooting the snapdragon version of any of these devices essentially says "NOPE".
The only way to root one is to buy a non US version. If it has a snapdragon soc you're out of luck.
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Ok I might be off by a year or 2 but I can say with 100% certainty that the note 9, 10, 10+ and flip3 don't have an unlock bootloader option.
I bought all 4 from Samsung all unlocked and not tied to any carrier. First boot with no sim I checked dev options and there was no option to unlock the bootloader. My note 9 might have had the option in the menu but it was grayed out and I couldn't find anyway to make it work.
A quick Google search for rooting the snapdragon version of any of these devices essentially says "NOPE".
The only way to root one is to buy a non US version. If it has a snapdragon soc you're out of luck.
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You got where I said "I guess the disclaimer is misleading" right?
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You got where I said "I guess the disclaimer is misleading" right?
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I didn't see that sentence in any of the posts but perhaps I just missed it.
It doesn't change anything either way. Anything is possible, even you somehow getting a device with this setting. That being said you also seem to be the only person ever to receive a USA device with said option.
It's hard to believe because it would mean the wrong firmware was installed (which makes no sense in itself) but with that firmware the device should have been a brick. The soc is completely different. It would be somewhat like trying to use Nvidia drivers on an AMD GPU... It just wouldn't work.
I dunno... I don't disbelieve you but I don't believe you either. It's just so far fetched for many reasons
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I didn't see that sentence in any of the posts but perhaps I just missed it.
It doesn't change anything either way. Anything is possible, even you somehow getting a device with this setting. That being said you also seem to be the only person ever to receive a USA device with said option.
It's hard to believe because it would mean the wrong firmware was installed (which makes no sense in itself) but with that firmware the device should have been a brick. The soc is completely different. It would be somewhat like trying to use Nvidia drivers on an AMD GPU... It just wouldn't work.
I dunno... I don't disbelieve you but I don't believe you either. It's just so far fetched for many reasons
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Lucky? I dunno. Had I known it would cause this much trolling, I wouldn't have bothered to mention it.
I have a general question. I am unfamiliar with rooting/unlocking bootloader on Samsung devices. Is it possible to revert unlocking the bootloader and going back to stock traceless?
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I have a general question. I am unfamiliar with rooting/unlocking bootloader on Samsung devices. Is it possible to revert unlocking the bootloader and going back to stock traceless?
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Partially. I just did that: I have AfWall running on my old phone, tried to unlock the Flip with this manual here in order to use the firewall there, did something wrong - and stumbled upon Netguard while searching what might have happened and decided to give it a try first. (Unless there is a custom ROM for the phone available, I have no other need for root or an unlocked bootloader.)
From what I could find on my Flip 3, you can unlock and relock the bootloader as you like - but as soon as you install a non-genuine bootloader (i.e. one chnaged by Magisk) you will trip Knox - and this cannot be reverted.
In such a case you can still re-lock your bootloader and unlock it later (on my phone, that "7-day-no-switch-indeveloper-options" routine kicked in, but you can circumvent that) - but Knox will stay in its state. From what I read this means some things will not work such as Samsung Pay, but I do not know the details (yet) apart from that it does not bother me ;-), and the nag screen during boot is gone.
Thanks for your reply. Kinda sucks. Never had problems with my former mobiles to get back totally to stock without traces. Guess I disregard rooting for now
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Thanks for your reply. Kinda sucks. Never had problems with my former mobiles to get back totally to stock without traces. Guess I disregard rooting for now
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Well, it's better than my Sony - there it is "once unlocked, always unlocked" with no way back at all
But I have to admit I understand the logic why the manufacturers do that, at least to the degree that they trip a fuse as Samsung does.
By rooting the phone, you shift the responsibility for the software state of the phone from the manufacturer to the user, so I think it is okay to implement something to make it clear to possible future buyers that it is or has been in that state.
(This does not include however all the other stones they put in the way of people wanting to develop or use custom ROMs!)
I remember I also had a Xperia Z3 compact.
Main reason for me for rooting, is the ability to use tools like tasker without non root restrictions or just trying customs roms without bloat, but usefull features. Guess u shouldn't have bought a Samsung lol.
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I remember I also had a Xperia Z3 compact.
Main reason for me for rooting, is the ability to use tools like tasker without non root restrictions or just trying customs roms without bloat, but usefull features.
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Oh, trust me - as soon as I hear there is a custom ROM that works as a daily driver I will root mine as well. I really hope that there will be one for this phone
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Guess u shouldn't have bought a Samsung lol.
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Sadly there is no Fairphone mini or Fairphone Flip - or would it be Fairfliphone? ... Flipfairphone?... - yet (if ever), so the only current alternative would be Motorola. And the price tag for the Razr is simply too much, even if I personally think it looks better than the Samsung. Additionally, I do not know if they are in any way better when it comes to rooting or loading custom ROMs.