New One S owner here. I'm finding that when using my One S in the car running Google Navigation (GPS), the battery is draining even when plugged into my car charger. I specifically purchased a name-brand, 950ma charger to try to avoid this problem (using this charger from Motorola), but it still seems to slowly drain if I use navigation, have the display on, etc.
Does this happen to anyone else?
Any recommendations for chargers that WILL work?
You'd really want a 2 Amp charger for that I think, 950mA is only just enough to charge the phone when it's not in use.
Latest update: I purchased this Powergen charger, which is supposed to be able to deliver up to 3.1 amps.
Tried it last night in my card running Google Navigation, and the batter STILL drained; slowly, about 3% over 45 minutes, but it was indeed draining. Wasn't running anything else except Google Nav; screen was on (obviously) and I did have bluetooth enabled and paired with my car's system, but I wasn't using the phone for calls.
Guess I'll repeat my request:
Does this happen to anyone else?
Any recommendations for chargers that WILL charge the phone while running GPS/navigation apps?
larrycl said:
Latest update: I purchased this Powergen charger, which is supposed to be able to deliver up to 3.1 amps.
Tried it last night in my card running Google Navigation, and the batter STILL drained; slowly, about 3% over 45 minutes, but it was indeed draining. Wasn't running anything else except Google Nav; screen was on (obviously) and I did have bluetooth enabled and paired with my car's system, but I wasn't using the phone for calls.
Guess I'll repeat my request:
Does this happen to anyone else?
Any recommendations for chargers that WILL charge the phone while running GPS/navigation apps?
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Yep, I have the same problem, although for me it's draining like 10% / half an hour. This is pretty annoying. My device also gets very hot (very hot = 50°C +)
I have a brand charger from Hama, so I really don't know where the problem is.
Same problem here too. Charging isn't possible (-10% per hour) and it also gets really, really hot. Don't know if I should charge my phone any longer because of the heat... Has anyone got a solution yet?
TerrorApple said:
Same problem here too. Charging isn't possible (-10% per hour) and it also gets really, really hot. Don't know if I should charge my phone any longer because of the heat... Has anyone got a solution yet?
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This might be a flaw of the phone. Happens to me too.
So you think it's okay charging the phone?
I have found the same thing. All my DC chargers will not charge, only maintain a slow drain, with GPS running.
However I have a monoprice external battery pack model 9531, that does charge even with GPS and bluetooth enabled. I have also noticed that using this in other circumstances it charges the phone faster than any of my AC chargers as well regardless of the state of the phone.
I could not like the monoprice page for it but I believe they still make it. Here is a picture. Hope this helps.
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Has anyone tried GPS with Bubba or some of the other kernels that have fast charging? Maybe those would do the trick?
Most Car chargers are internally wired for Apple products ( data ports have current on them tot tell the Apple product what the charger capacity is ). Android phone do not recognize this, so they fall back to USB charging (500ma).
Look at the phone battery settings when charging. Doesvit say USB or AC ?
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When I'm using google navigation in the car and the screen is inevitably on full brightness I expect the battery to drain really quick. So I plug in the car charger expecting all to be fine - wrong! The battery still goes down - just not as quickly.
If I am on the road for about 6 hours the battery will go flat. My car charger is 800mA so it should be no problem.
Is it just mine?
My Epic was the same way under heavy load.
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Never had that problem with my Nexus One and would be surprised if the Nexus S exhibited that behavior. But my Nexus One dock came with a 1000mA charger.
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It's pulling more than the charger can keep up with. A beefy charger like ones for the ipad might help but unknown how much. Griffin makes some that can output over two amps. Look at best buy. Make sure you check the output ratings. Some might be more than others. You will have to use a usb data cable as the cord because the one I'm talking about has standard usb female on the other end of the adapter. Griffin power jolt.
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This particular one has led that glows red when full charging and green when trickle. There's different models.
The Nexus S isn't even close to how bad the Epic was. A road trip with Google navigation on, and the screen low would eat at the battery. Heavy use in general would eat at the battery. All while the screen brightness was at like 15%. I felt like the phone was always in a constant state of charging, except overnight when I slept.
Nexus S isnt even close to that bad. I wouldn't even define it as bad at all. Just normal. I would just avoid maxing out the screen brightness. 25% is normally enough in 80% of your situations.
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I use a 1.2A charger in the car and also have this problem. Only with Navigation + max brightness. If I drop the brightness (at night) I can stay ahead of the drain.
This was also an issue with my Vibrant so I was not surprised to see it on the NS as well.
I read in one of the posts about an app called battery monitor widget. It has been a helpful tool to monitor the charge discharge rates. I highly recommend it. You know when the phone is truly idling and when something is pulling down on the battery even when you're just sitting at the home screen doing nothing.
I haven't found a useful essential app for a long time until I stumbled across this.
I've had the same problem on the stock charger O.O! You would think that the one that came with the phone would be able to handle it running as a wifi hotspot but it doesn't. My old phone, an HTC Desire, never had a problem keeping up.
Yeah Samsung phones takes too long to charged I though my evo was bad cause I came from an ip
hone, which charges in an hour (80%) and now battery kills me in this phones
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I've had the same problem on the stock charger O.O! You would think that the one that came with the phone would be able to handle it running as a wifi hotspot but it doesn't. My old phone, an HTC Desire, never had a problem keeping up.
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Sounds like the crappy 3G/4G/wifi is the culprit. I believe when they fix the signal issues battery drain will be reduced.
P.S. Come on Google... WTF!
I noticed the USB connection will not keep up, but the AC connection will. I know that doesn't help in the car, just an observation.
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I noticed the USB connection will not keep up, but the AC connection will. I know that doesn't help in the car, just an observation.
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A lot of car chargers output like ac chargers..like what came with my car dock.
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Guys, make sure it's charging in AC mode so charging can keep up with the discharge rate. You can see whether it's in USB charging mode or AC in About phone > Status. If your phone is in USB charging mode while plugged into the car charger, it means the D+/D- pins of the charger cable is not shorted.
You have several choices:
1) Open up the charger and find the USB wire solder point, short D+/D- (usually the middle two of the four pins) with a soldering iron.
2) Skin the USB cable/wire, cut the D+/D- wire (hopefully you know which two), and short the openings.
3) Buy a male and a female USB connector, solder the two together, but short D+/D- on each side.
Hey, I don't know how to force to charge tablet in the car.
I use 2.1 amper car charger. After I plugged it to the tablet I got either red cross or just info that tab has been connected.
I know trick to mount USB partially, sometimes it works and there is no red cross, however I noticed in Battery Monitor Pro:
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You see tab's been plugged, it shows "USB connected" and "Discharging" however power depreciation is still high.
When there is no red cross (I mount USB stick partially). Then charge rate is very low - 0.5-0.6 ampers instead of 2.1.
Charger is working good, I tested it.
How to force it to be charged at full rate? I worry about GPS power consumption - Sygic+Locus Pro = more than 1 amper depreciation, so this is matter of time till tablet will go off. The worst scenario... during road trip.
You need something like this with 2.1 amp
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/09/14/charge-phone-tablet-car-bracketron-dual-usb-charger/
Or this Belkin one
http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F8M114
Or the oem Samsung for the galaxy tab, which should also Work with tab 2
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-car-charger-for-galaxy-tab-10-1.html
Here is a helpful guide too
http://www.matthewb.id.au/smartphone/tablet-charging-guide.html
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Thx, but are you sure that Dual USB charger will give me full 2.1 amper (or min 1A)? I have 2.1 A charger but it gives only about 500-600 mA. I've heard due to USB cable pins made for Apple products (even if it is universal one).
Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Thx, but are you sure that Dual USB charger will give me full 2.1 amper (or min 1A)? I have 2.1 A charger but it gives only about 500-600 mA. I've heard due to USB cable pins made for Apple products (even if it is universal one).
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I just played around with making a wireless charger. It is 1 amp and it will charge the 7" tab2. My 850 mah wall charger will charge it as we'll. both show an x over the battery but they charge. The secret is the data wires. They need to be connected together. I modified a cable for a car one time to do this, but many car chargers today do it for you.
The tab 2 will charge off less as it can charge off a pc USB port at only 500mah, so it is not the amps.
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Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Hey, I don't know how to force to charge tablet in the car.
I use 2.1 amper car charger. After I plugged it to the tablet I got either red cross or just info that tab has been connected.
I know trick to mount USB partially, sometimes it works and there is no red cross, however I noticed in Battery Monitor Pro:
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You see tab's been plugged, it shows "USB connected" and "Discharging" however power depreciation is still high.
When there is no red cross (I mount USB stick partially). Then charge rate is very low - 0.5-0.6 ampers instead of 2.1.
Charger is working good, I tested it.
How to force it to be charged at full rate? I worry about GPS power consumption - Sygic+Locus Pro = more than 1 amper depreciation, so this is matter of time till tablet will go off. The worst scenario... during road trip.[/QUOTE]
Pardon me but but you have a Samsung Galaxy tab 7 plus looking at your other posts. My P6200 only charges from 0.9A lower limit to 2.02A upper limit at 5vDC if your amps go lower or higher you get that red cross
I get best results at 2.0Amp charge and no more. otherwise battery only takes in 0.5 to 0.6A which I see you observed the same with battery pro I did it with a external power supply that reads drawn current
P.S I know I am late hope it helps somebody else
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Hi Guys,
I bought a new Moto G XT-1033.
But the charging time is very high. Eventough it gets fully charged when I leave it overnight , The battery is drained by 6 in the evening.
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I have a Samsung charger rated 5.0V 0.7A , My Tab's charger rated 5.0V 1.5A , And the charger that came with the phone rated 5.0V 550mA
Here are my queries :
Can I can use any of these chargers so that I can charge my phone faster ?
Wll using them damage my battery ?
Does my battery have any problem ? or is it fine ?
Will leaving my phone charging overnight cause any damage ?
All help appreciated :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Loocking at your stats I would say you have something around 6h of screen on time, a lot of WiFi and the mobile signal streght is kind of weak.
So your battery is fine. And I seriously doubt that you will mantain such an heavy usage over time. Actually 6h of screen on time in 10h is absurd.
Do you have something like active display?
To answer to the other questions:
1 - You can use your Tablet charger. Moto G supports 1.5A chargers and they will charge your battery much faster.
2 - They will not damage your battery.
3 - Its fine.
4 - No, actually Motorola itself recommends this.
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Loocking at your stats I would say you have something around 6h of screen on time, a lot of WiFi and the mobile signal streght is kind of weak.
So your battery is fine. And I seriously doubt that you will mantain such an heavy usage over time. Actually 6h of screen on time in 10h is absurd.
Do you have something like active display?
To answer to the other questions:
1 - You can use your Tablet charger. Moto G supports 1.5A chargers and they will charge your battery much faster.
2 - They will not damage your battery.
3 - Its fine.
4 - No, actually Motorola itself recommends this.
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Hi , I tried my Tabs charger today and the phone is charging faster. But it is getting heated up extensively. The phone becomes REALLY HOT when using it.The Charge/Time ratio for the Tab's charger is 2.105 and that for the original charger is 1.090 . So the 1.5A charger is 2 times faster than the 0.55A charger.
In the end , The final charging is done by the original charger and the second last by the TAB's .
The problem is that the heat is unbearable and I unplugged the phone quickly. And when I disconnected the charger , The pohne still showed that it was still charging ! So I turned it off and left it for 10 mins and then turned it on again. Have anyone else tried this and had similar experiences ?
So I think I will stick with the original charger and buy a charger with ratings in the 1A range.
Motorola themselves say that you can use anything with 5V and more than 0,5A so it should be fine.
If it is overheating that much then I wouldn't use it.
Are you doing some heavy stuff on the phone while it is charging?
If you play games while it is charging it may overheat.
Excessive heat and batteries are never a good idea so avoid that charger or avoid doing stuff on the phone while charging.
Right now I'm using a 1A charger from LG and it works perfectly.
My wife and I both have Tmobile variant Note 5's... Using the stock charger it will not always fast charge. However if unplugged and reconnected it will start to fast charge... I thought maybe it simply wasn't indicating it was fast charging but in actuality it was but NO, I checked using the AMPERE application and it wasn't... Checked other forums and the problem is not just me but so far no solution... Any thoughts???
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My wife and I both have Tmobile variant Note 5's... Using the stock charger it will not always fast charge. However if unplugged and reconnected it will start to fast charge... I thought maybe it simply wasn't indicating it was fast charging but in actuality it was but NO, I checked using the AMPERE application and it wasn't... Checked other forums and the problem is not just me but so far no solution... Any thoughts???
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Same here after update I believe. ..
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My wife and I both have Tmobile variant Note 5's... Using the stock charger it will not always fast charge. However if unplugged and reconnected it will start to fast charge... I thought maybe it simply wasn't indicating it was fast charging but in actuality it was but NO, I checked using the AMPERE application and it wasn't... Checked other forums and the problem is not just me but so far no solution... Any thoughts???
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When I use the charger from my S6 Edge it doesn't fast charge but it does when I use the charger the phone came with even though they are exactly the same.
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Anybody try swapping out the cable
Same. Unplugging the USB from the wall brick and reconnecting usually fixes the problem for me.
Same thing happened to me. Saw the tip of the Micro USB part, and it looked kinda weird, not all four wires aligned. Went to the drawer, got an old HTC wire, hooked it to the Samsung fast charger block, and it worked like a charm.
Pissed cuz I purchased 2 multi port fast chargers on amazon which no longer fast charge after the update.
I had mine stop fast charging once. I checked the connections and all was fine. I tried the Ultra-power saving mode and could not turn it back off. I ended up factory resetting. Since then - I have had no trouble with my fast charging working every time.
I have experimented with different USB cables and found that Fast Charging requires the use of USB cables that also allow data transfer. There are some USB cables out there that only has normal charging capability and these do not work with Fast Charging. Sometimes you can tell by checking the microUSB pins, others they simply lack the wiring within the cable itself.
Normal charging cables must have Vcc and GND for electricity passthru. While Data cable has additional D- and D+ connections, which I believe is used by Fast Charging.
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I've had similar issues and ran many many tests. Using stock charger when plugged into phone and power 100% of time doesn't fast charge unless I pull USB from wall adapter still leaving plugged in both phone and wall. Plug USB back in adapter and fast charge will work 100% of time. Tried many different cords as I have lots.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I have problems with my Note 5 no longer fast charging much. Over the last few weeks, it has charged progressively worse.
-I ordered a new cord and have tried multiple different cords and chargers including OEM. I was leaning toward this being an issue with the ports needing cleaning, but have now observed the same issue with wireless charging. About half the time on wireless charging and 3/4 of the time with wired charging it is very slow with no fast charging.
-I have also factory reset (using TekHD rom and modified stock kernel though I also tried Skyhigh) and am still having the issue. I use my phone all the time for work and am about to get rid of it. But before I do, does anyone have any ideas?
In summary: Fast Charging is intermittent with multiple cords, OEM charger, and wireless charging. Any ideas?
Get a new USB cable
In my experience, Samsung cables have a short lifespan. LG & HTC cables do better IMO (Probably because when you buy a LG or HTC there isn't many fakes Even on amazon many samsung clones) but I find LG cables work best. Yes, you will get fast charging with them
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I have problem with charging on my U11 with the stock charger and my anker charger with QC3. If i use the normal ports without QC3, I can get 5v and almost 2A.
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But on the voltage bumps up to 7.5v, the current drops drastically to 0.1-0.3a and it wont charge to 100% overnight. I am thinking my phone is having problem as it behave the same on 2 chargers. Any thoughts?
(The picture shows higher current because my phone is on and camera app is running. If phone is off, current is 0.1 to 0.3A)
If the battery is near full you won't get full power. It ramps down to prevent over charging. QC3 is dynamic charging and uses a negotiation routine.
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If the battery is near full you won't get full power. It ramps down to prevent over charging. QC3 is dynamic charging and uses a negotiation routine.
Beamed in by telepathy.
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While what you said is indeed true, that's not exactly the case the OP is experiencing. I say this because he won't charge to full even overnight. Sure, 99% to 100% takes slightly longer, but I believe it's definitely under 5 minutes.
OP, let me share my experience. I have one original HTC charger, one non-original HTC branded charger (half the price of an original, I don't care if it's a fake as long as the quality holds up), and a Xiaomi powerbank that supports two-way QC3.0 (meaning it quick-charges devices but can also be quick-charged itself).
1) The original charger and non-original both work perfectly, quick-charging my HTC U11.
If I charge this Xiaomi powerbank with a normal charger (5V/2A), it also quick-charges my HTC U11 almost as well as the wall chargers.
2) But, if I quick-charge the Xiaomi powerbank itself with a QC3.0 charger (18W), such as the two wall chargers mentioned above, then I have the same issue as you- namely that the powerbank becomes unbearably slow in charging the U11.
3) The way to fix this is to have the powerbank use up all its power then be recharged by a normal charger as in 1). Another way is use the powerbank to charge a normal device, one that doesn't use quick-charge. In both these cases the duration must be for over 2 hours, after which I suspect the "safety mechanism" of the Xiaomi will deactivate and make things normal. Obviously I'm not too happy with this powerbank so will be returning it shortly.
So OP you might wanna try something like charge your phone fully first with non-QC, and the same for your powerbank. Then try charging the phone again using said powerbank.